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double sulk
Jul 2, 2010

GigaPeon posted:

The Nexus 7 is back on the Staples website and shows out of stock everywhere around me :/

Keep an eye on it, because their stock availability updates instantly. Sometimes stores can get units in stock in the afternoon. They will be your best bet.

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rotaryfun
Jun 30, 2008

you can be my wingman anytime
Stopped by my staples today just to look. They still have a piece of paper up that says if you want to pre order the nexus 7, please speak to an associate.

That piece of paper is the only thing in that store that references, Nexus 7.

AppleCobbler
Feb 8, 2003
remember that time I was just chilling out and definitely not having a massive meltdown? right guys? guys??? :laugh:

rotaryfun posted:

Stopped by my staples today just to look. They still have a piece of paper up that says if you want to pre order the nexus 7, please speak to an associate.

That piece of paper is the only thing in that store that references, Nexus 7.

This is still 10 times more than any other android tablet promotion

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe
Yeah a 7" is exactly what I needed. I like using my iPhone and all but a small rear end screen is not always the best thing to read on. With the N7 I can just slip it in my pocket and head to work. As much as I like my ipad as well it's big as hell. It's a mobile Google Reader in my pocket that I don't have to squint at that also has Pandora, Steam, and a browser!

GigaPeon
Apr 29, 2003

Go, man, go!

Sulk posted:

Keep an eye on it, because their stock availability updates instantly. Sometimes stores can get units in stock in the afternoon. They will be your best bet.

So Walmart stores aren't carrying them yet?

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!
Had mine for a few days.

Things I like:

- The 7" form factor. Love it or hate it, I love it. Easily held with one hand and it doesn't tire you out. 10" is just too big to use comfortably and any situation where I find myself wanting a 10" tablet I have a laptop ready to go and to be honest I'd rather use that.
- Build quality is superb. The news of ghosting and screens lifting had me worried but I'm not seeing either. The seams between the screen, side plastic and rear are almost nonexistent. Side buttons have a very satisfying click, not mushy and don't wobble around in their cutouts.
- The feel. Good, solid weight. The non slip, textured back cover is actually quite nice. It's not overly tacky but you don't ever get a sense it's going to fall out of your hands.
- The price. $250 for a 16 gig. Not any negatives there.
- The speed. This thing screams and not a single stutter out of it. I'm sure some of that comes from Jelly Bean but the specs in it sure don't hurt either.

Things I don't like:

- As much as I hate proprietary plugs the micro usb connector just feels flimsy for such a sturdy, well built tablet.
- Google's insistence on non tablet specific apps. They believe things should scale. Noble goal but it just doesn't work. No one wants a 7" phone so why in God's name would we want to scale an app for such low real estate (3.5-4.3) to something that's larger? What's worse is that even they can't even be consistant about it. GMail uses the tablet interface. Nice! Google Talk uses the phone interface and stretches. Not so nice! I'm just hoping Google Play developers start dual packaging apps for different screen sizes.
- The official case. It's a cheap rubber sleeve covering a very nice device. The button covers are sloppy and mushy. The screen cover registers taps on the screen when you close it. Skip it and pick up a nicer cover that utilizes the screen idle magnet.
- Speaker could be a touch louder.
- Google's customer service. Or lack thereof.

Biodome
Nov 21, 2006

Gerry

Maker Of Shoes posted:

Build quality is superb ... The seams between the screen, side plastic and rear are almost nonexistent.

:crossarms:

Can you take some screen shots of the stretched phone apps. People only ever link the Skype one looking like poo poo.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

Almost nonexistent in that there are seems like everything have but not huge gaping holes that plague most Android devices. I am very bad at words. I'll get some screens up in a minute.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Phiberoptik posted:

How well do flash videos work on Android? Im thinking fo picking up a nexus 7, a big reason I don't want an iPad is a lot of sites I use still do not have flash alternatives.

If you absolutely have to have flash then well, android is the only real option (other than blackberry playbook). But really flash is dead. If sites ever require a newer version than android has right now then you wont be able to use it. Your porn and anime sites will probably move to html5 before long.

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!
Oh thank gently caress, Lynda.com finally has HTML5 video rather than flash for Android. If only they could stop being lazy and get an actual Android app I'd be fully happy. They've had an iOS app since 2010.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

Biodome posted:

Can you take some screen shots of the stretched phone apps. People only ever link the Skype one looking like poo poo.




This is just baffling to me because other Google apps use the nice double pane views like G+ and GMail.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Maker Of Shoes posted:


Things I don't like:

- The official case. It's a cheap rubber sleeve covering a very nice device. The button covers are sloppy and mushy. The screen cover registers taps on the screen when you close it. Skip it and pick up a nicer cover that utilizes the screen idle magnet.

I had a feeling this would be the case. :rimshot: Now to wait for decent ones to come out.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Biodome posted:

:crossarms:

Can you take some screen shots of the stretched phone apps. People only ever link the Skype one looking like poo poo.
This article demonstrates it rather well.

randyest posted:

Has anything changed since this?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401676,00.asp

I seriously want it to but people like you constantly defending absolute poo poo make it less likely it will ever happen.
I'll just bring the images here, so you don't have to jump through hoops. All of these are Android on the left, iPad on the right:

CBS News


CollegeHumor


CNN:


ESPN:


eBay:


Facebook:


TBS:


Twitter:


Vevo:


Wikipedia:


CNN is basically the only good tablet interface there. I would love to know if it's changed as well in the last few months, because I use that article as an important reference when people ask me about Android tablets.

rotaryfun
Jun 30, 2008

you can be my wingman anytime
Android... no shortage of lazy programmers.

The capabilities are there to make beautiful apps. It's the developers that are dragging their feet to the max.

apps done right:

awful betamax


google+


youtube

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

rotaryfun posted:

Android... no shortage of lazy programmers.

The capabilities are there to make beautiful apps. It's the developers that are dragging their feet to the max.

apps done right:

awful betamax


google+


When did google buy flipboard?

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

CNN is basically the only good tablet interface there. I would love to know if it's changed as well in the last few months, because I use that article as an important reference when people ask me about Android tablets.
At least the CNN one proves that it can be done properly. I'm betting the reason that so many of the screenshots are in portrait is because the application doesn't even support landscape.

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

CNN is basically the only good tablet interface there.
And in fact, CNN was cited as an example of the Android app looking better than the iPad app.

quote:

I would love to know if it's changed as well in the last few months, because I use that article as an important reference when people ask me about Android tablets.
It's a pretty recent article, but TBS has released an Android tablet app since it was written:



Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Don Lapre posted:

When did google buy flipboard?

Dunno, but the new Google+ app is awesome. makes me wish more people used it.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Athenry posted:

Dunno, but the new Google+ app is awesome. makes me wish more people used it.

this but about my penis

El Duke Silver
Aug 15, 2008

rarely goes out and should never be approached

Pissflaps posted:

this but about my penis

oh hey it's pissflaps

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players
Got an email from Newegg today advertising 20% off Toshiba tablets. Obviously they're having a hard time selling them. I went ahead and clicked it to see which ones were in the sale and now 3 of the models are sold out. Newegg coded it ToshibaFiresale. The 10.1" 16GB Tegra 3 model would have ended up going for $312. Did anyone get one?

chemosh6969
Jul 3, 2004

code:
cat /dev/null > /etc/professionalism

I am in fact a massive asswagon.
Do not let me touch computer.

Don Lapre posted:

If you absolutely have to have flash then well, android is the only real option (other than blackberry playbook).

There's browsers on ipad that support flash. Now it seems like the flash playing field is leveling out with everyone losing support from Adobe.

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

They all pretty much look like this:



e: this was regarding the tablet layout conversation of course

Syrinxx fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jul 20, 2012

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

OK, we've got Skype, CBS News, CollegeHumor, ESPN, eBay, Facebook, Twitter, Vevo, and goodreads.

Congratulations Apple fanboys, you found 9 apps which don't have tablet layouts on Android. Screenshots and everything! No doubt this will finally convince the masses that Android is bad, and stop the wave of demand for Android tablets which is now so strong that the Play Store website sold out of the 16GB model.

It's a good thing too, otherwise all those people might have purchased one and enjoyed the literally thousands and thousands of apps which do have tablet support.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Rastor posted:

Congratulations Apple fanboys
You're making a complete idiot out of yourself. Syrinxxx is posting screenshots from a Transformer Infinity that he received this week in an effort to help other people make purchasing decisions.

Clearly he's an Apple fanboy.

Kynetx
Jan 8, 2003


Full of ignorant tribalism. Kinda sad.

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

CNN is basically the only good tablet interface there. I would love to know if it's changed as well in the last few months, because I use that article as an important reference when people ask me about Android tablets.

This makes me think two thoughts:

1. Not a surprise that the Android versions are frequently slapdash garbage considering the size of the market.

2. Supposedly, HTML5 will make apps obsolete in many cases, especially media sites.

It's interesting, since I haven't spent a lot of time with iPads, I don't have any expectations for design quality and just use it. I think a lot of people that aren't invested in iOS care all that much. Different market. Maybe.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through

SouthLAnd posted:

I decided to put ICS on my Kindle Fire, although now I'm thinking I should have thrown on a Jelly Bean rom, this is pretty fun so far though.



All the essentials, right there. :frogc00l:

I'm sorry, this was from yesterday I think, but is there a link to this wallpaper? I reverse Googled and came up with nothin'.

Thanks for any help.

Nuitari
Jun 17, 2005

Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker and Tits.
Walked into my closest Staples. All sold out of the Nexus 7. Few hours later walked into another one and got the last one in stock. Thought they were going to withhold it from me when I refused their $100 accident protection warranty....

I'm an Android noob (other than helping my Dad setup some basic apps), and as a less than enthused iPhone owner, I must say this is a fine piece of hardware and just feels perfect in my hand. Very smooth too. Night and day from my experience with other Android tablets on display that I've fiddled with.

Slo-Tek
Jun 8, 2001

WINDOWS 98 BEAT HIS FRIEND WITH A SHOVEL
Nother I don't know android question. How do I talk Google Now into populating with something other than the weather? I want flight info, and local news, and stuff on there, and places and appointments, per the "sample cards" it shows.

But All I've got is weather, and a little information bit on the alarm that is currently going off, not things in my calendar for tomorrow.

jkyuusai
Jun 26, 2008

homegrown man milk

Slo-Tek posted:

Nother I don't know android question. How do I talk Google Now into populating with something other than the weather? I want flight info, and local news, and stuff on there, and places and appointments, per the "sample cards" it shows.

But All I've got is weather, and a little information bit on the alarm that is currently going off, not things in my calendar for tomorrow.

From what I've heard/read so far, it seems like there's no way to "force" a specific card to come up. You basically need to feed Now information so it can start to populate. So, for stuff like flights and news, ask it for flights and news. It thought I was asking for directions to a place when I was playing around with it on the first day and now it WILL NOT STOP asking me if I want navigation info to this drat building. (I know there's a way to kill cards if they're unwanted, by swiping to the left/right, I think?)

I know at least for appointments, you need to have everything filled in, including an address, for it to trigger warnings like "accounting for traffic, you need to leave now to make it to this thing."

BunLengthHotDog
Jun 30, 2003

Good Game

Slo-Tek posted:

Nother I don't know android question. How do I talk Google Now into populating with something other than the weather? I want flight info, and local news, and stuff on there, and places and appointments, per the "sample cards" it shows.

But All I've got is weather, and a little information bit on the alarm that is currently going off, not things in my calendar for tomorrow.

I had to enable "show recent searches" under the privacy and accounts section of Google Nows settings. The only thing that added for me was sports scores...which would not show up automatically without that option checked. Maybe it impacts other cards as well.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


BunLengthHotDog posted:

I had to enable "show recent searches" under the privacy and accounts section of Google Nows settings. The only thing that added for me was sports scores...which would not show up automatically without that option checked. Maybe it impacts other cards as well.

Just search for stuff. I've looked up addresses on my desktop and had directions and traffic information show up on a card. It did take a couple of searches for things to start showing up.

tofes
Mar 31, 2011

#1 Milpitas Dave and Buster's superfan since 2013
So far I like the Nexus 7 a lot, I definitely prefer the 7 inch form factor to the iPad's 10". I do wish the side bezels were larger though. While holding it, my thumb tends to hit the screen by accident a bit too often.

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


Slo-Tek posted:

Nother I don't know android question. How do I talk Google Now into populating with something other than the weather? I want flight info, and local news, and stuff on there, and places and appointments, per the "sample cards" it shows.

But All I've got is weather, and a little information bit on the alarm that is currently going off, not things in my calendar for tomorrow.

Make sure you have Web History enabled via Google Dashboard.

Siroc
Oct 10, 2004

Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!

rotaryfun posted:

awful betamax



Is this format only available to the "not phone" interface? I love the thread list on the side.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Siroc posted:

Is this format only available to the "not phone" interface? I love the thread list on the side.

Yes. I'm pretty sure on the N7 you can get both depending on if you have it portrait/landscape.

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I haven't seen that view on my nexus 7, is there something special you have to do to get it?

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

powderific posted:

I haven't seen that view on my nexus 7, is there something special you have to do to get it?
I think you have to change your dpi so it gives you tablet apps.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Don Lapre posted:

I think you have to change your dpi so it gives you tablet apps.

From the Awful App theread

Geekner posted:


I AM ANGRY, ANGRY ABOUT DPI HACKS.

Seriously though, I was working on a solution for in-between tablets like the Fire and now the Nexus 7. If you hack the DPI it completely screws up font calculations and layout stuff. So I won't fix whatever you ran into here.

So yeah you can try hacking the DPI but don't expect everything to work properly

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Gerdalti
May 24, 2003

SPOON!

dissss posted:

From the Awful App theread


So yeah you can try hacking the DPI but don't expect everything to work properly

He did say he'd get something working soon for the N7 users though, so there is that. It does work fine in phone mode, but I miss that tablet layout from my xoom.

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