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rockopete: Jan 19, 2005

ReidRansom posted:

The rich and connected are always going to find ways out, but there's the argument that when it starts hitting the (ever shrinking) middle class more, making them feel the pinch and the loss, that people are more apt to take war seriously. McChrystal echoed this recently.

and another fat army guy in our very "professional" military since I don't have a relevant picture

During the run-up to Iraq, Rep. Charlie Rangel proposed reinstating the draft for this very reason.

It'd make a great counterpoint to this sort of poo poo

# ? Jul 23, 2012 20:47

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 16:39

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the2ndgenesis posted:

Attributing Switzerland's prosperity and security to high levels of gun ownership is incredibly intellectually dishonest. If gun ownership were a reasonable metric of social wellbeing the United States would be far and away the most secure and prosperous nation on the planet, right up there with Serbia.

Switzerland has few firearms crimes because (like most countries with low crime irrespective of whether or not they allow guns) it is rich, small and generally isolated. It has a solid public infrastructure and a high employment rate with low rates of poverty, hard drug use, and urban deprivation- i.e. the exact things that, when combined with high rates of gun ownership, lead to firearms crimes in the US. Go figure.

Furthermore the gun cultures of the US and Switzerland are fundamentally different from each other. Switzerland as an independent confederation has employed a militia-based military for longer than the United States has existed and the criteria by which one is allowed to keep or buy a firearm are much stricter de facto in Switzerland than they are in the US. No one in Switzerland is attempting to invoke legislation that was written at a time in which muzzle loading muskets were the most advanced firearms in order to defend their right to own high caliber hunting rifles and semiautomatic assault rifles with few restrictions.

Contributing:

The thing that gets me about this is that it could be a moderately good argument, but I know that all they mean is "Switzerland has lots of guns and little crime, so the US should have more guns!" rather than "Switzerland has lots of guns and health insurance companies are required to accept any applicant, 25% of its workers are unionized, and economic inequality is relatively low, let's be more like Switzerland."

The US shouldn't be more like Switzerland in a lot of respects, but it would at least be a better argument.

gently caress Switzerland for some things though.

# ? Jul 23, 2012 21:11

Bandanna: Nov 3, 2005; Bulletproof

redmercer posted:

Here, have a roll of Penn State diplomas

The reason I am looking is because of the possibility of having Dr. Mary Frances Berry as my thesis supervisor.

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# ? Jul 23, 2012 21:28

Alhazred: Feb 16, 2011

Chantilly Say posted:

gently caress Switzerland for some things though.

gently caress Switzerland for a lot of things.

# ? Jul 23, 2012 21:29

Monkeytime: Mar 20, 2010

Bandanna posted:

The reason I am looking is because of the possibility of having Dr. Mary Frances Berry as my thesis supervisor.

Their athletic department is screwed, but their academics will be the same as ever (generally poor at the undergraduate level). If you have a chance to study under Dr. Berry, jump at it. In fact, she wanted me to give this to you:

# ? Jul 23, 2012 22:20

StarkingBarfish: Jun 25, 2006; Novus Ordo Seclorum

Alhazred posted:

gently caress Switzerland for a lot of things.

I'm not a switzerland apologist by any means, for both the shady poo poo they did in the war and the shady poo poo they let their banks do now, but these posters are one of the reasons switzerland is impressive and far more than the conscription thing it's something that other countries should learn from, the US in particular.

Switzerland practices the most robust form of direct democracy I've ever seen. Each party has the right to have their campaign represented with a poster the same number of and size as everyone else's and it is strictly enforced. That means you don't get bullshit like PACs or lobbying, or campaigns fought where the rich have the advantage over the poor. You get your poster, you make your point, and you gently caress right off with attack ads or robocalls. For every one of these xenophobic racist posters there's a dozen more from the labour party, socialists, greens, you name it.

Now, the fact that many swiss cantons are conservative as all hell means it's a lot to fight against, but the framework is without fault as far as I can see, and the fact that they're conservative in the traditional meaning of the sense isn't a problem when you consider that there's less here that needs to be changed on a federal level. The cantons and the state subsidise energy, public transport is cheap and the best I've ever seen, and they are efficient in terms of bureaucracy.

The gun debate as applied to switzerland is also heavily misinterpreted. It was posted earlier in the thread that the population in service of the militia had both the rifle and the ammo (the ammo being sealed). This is no longer true- you get the rifle but not the ammunition, and can only obtain ammo at pratice ranges that you must use or return before leaving. Also, suicide rates here are (I think) not much different to most european countries. Suicide by firearm was higher, but other means were reduced accordingly. It's still contentious here, but the combination of direct democracy and conservatism meant it took a while for the ammo limitation to come into effect- I doubt a full-on recall of service weapons will be on the cards for quite some time.

Edit: Forgot to attach a photo, so here's one. Where else in the world is the highest position of governmental authority shared by seven (plus the chancellor) people, split coincidentally along gender lines?

StarkingBarfish fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Jul 23, 2012

# ? Jul 23, 2012 22:35

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

For all the theoretical merits of Swiss style democracy, they didn't institute women's suffrage until 1971.

# ? Jul 23, 2012 22:38

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You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

StarkingBarfish posted:

I'm not a switzerland apologist by any means, for both the shady poo poo they did in the war and the shady poo poo they let their banks do now, but these posters are one of the reasons switzerland is impressive and far more than the conscription thing it's something that other countries should learn from, the US in particular.

Switzerland practices the most robust form of direct democracy I've ever seen. Each party has the right to have their campaign represented with a poster the same number of and size as everyone else's and it is strictly enforced. That means you don't get bullshit like PACs or lobbying, or campaigns fought where the rich have the advantage over the poor. You get your poster, you make your point, and you gently caress right off with attack ads or robocalls. For every one of these xenophobic racist posters there's a dozen more from the labour party, socialists, greens, you name it.

Now, the fact that many swiss cantons are conservative as all hell means it's a lot to fight against, but the framework is without fault as far as I can see, and the fact that they're conservative in the traditional meaning of the sense isn't a problem when you consider that there's less here that needs to be changed on a federal level. The cantons and the state subsidise energy, public transport is cheap and the best I've ever seen, and they are efficient in terms of bureaucracy.

The gun debate as applied to switzerland is also heavily misinterpreted. It was posted earlier in the thread that the population in service of the militia had both the rifle and the ammo (the ammo being sealed). This is no longer true- you get the rifle but not the ammunition, and can only obtain ammo at pratice ranges that you must use or return before leaving. Also, suicide rates here are (I think) not much different to most european countries. Suicide by firearm was higher, but other means were reduced accordingly. It's still contentious here, but the combination of direct democracy and conservatism meant it took a while for the ammo limitation to come into effect- I doubt a full-on recall of service weapons will be on the cards for quite some time.

Dropping serious knowledge. Thanks for this post, I guess I was too quick to point fingers. If we had those rules in the US (which we should) we would definitely end up with posters like that from the Tea Party and their ilk.

I'd love to visit sometime.

# ? Jul 23, 2012 22:45

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

StarkingBarfish posted:

I'm not a switzerland apologist by any means, for both the shady poo poo they did in the war and the shady poo poo they let their banks do now, but these posters are one of the reasons switzerland is impressive and far more than the conscription thing it's something that other countries should learn from, the US in particular.

Switzerland practices the most robust form of direct democracy I've ever seen. Each party has the right to have their campaign represented with a poster the same number of and size as everyone else's and it is strictly enforced. That means you don't get bullshit like PACs or lobbying, or campaigns fought where the rich have the advantage over the poor. You get your poster, you make your point, and you gently caress right off with attack ads or robocalls. For every one of these xenophobic racist posters there's a dozen more from the labour party, socialists, greens, you name it.

Now, the fact that many swiss cantons are conservative as all hell means it's a lot to fight against, but the framework is without fault as far as I can see, and the fact that they're conservative in the traditional meaning of the sense isn't a problem when you consider that there's less here that needs to be changed on a federal level. The cantons and the state subsidise energy, public transport is cheap and the best I've ever seen, and they are efficient in terms of bureaucracy.

The gun debate as applied to switzerland is also heavily misinterpreted. It was posted earlier in the thread that the population in service of the militia had both the rifle and the ammo (the ammo being sealed). This is no longer true- you get the rifle but not the ammunition, and can only obtain ammo at pratice ranges that you must use or return before leaving. Also, suicide rates here are (I think) not much different to most european countries. Suicide by firearm was higher, but other means were reduced accordingly. It's still contentious here, but the combination of direct democracy and conservatism meant it took a while for the ammo limitation to come into effect- I doubt a full-on recall of service weapons will be on the cards for quite some time.

Switzerland is not the only country with campaign rules about number of posters and numbers and financing limits, France has those with each candidates allotted the exact same air time on tvs and radios, a tv clip and specific posters.

# ? Jul 23, 2012 22:54

StarkingBarfish: Jun 25, 2006; Novus Ordo Seclorum

Orange Devil posted:

For all the theoretical merits of Swiss style democracy, they didn't institute women's suffrage until 1971.

Again, conservative as all hell. Instituting a change like that in such a system is like moving mountains. Some of the things that get voted down in referenda are really strange, for example they voted against allowing shops to stay open past 7:30pm,or on sundays because "You should be with your family then", as one christian party put it.

# ? Jul 23, 2012 22:59

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

A horrific hate crime was committed in Lincoln, Nebraska yesterday.

This is from the vigil for the victim.

# ? Jul 23, 2012 23:03

LP97S: Apr 25, 2008

Gee, it's almost as if it's really only America that has horrible campaign laws that completely favor the wealthy and those who are beholden to them to get anything. Hell, we're seeing campaigns in the billions while people are starving because millions are being cut.

LP97S fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jul 23, 2012

# ? Jul 23, 2012 23:09

StarkingBarfish: Jun 25, 2006; Novus Ordo Seclorum

Kurtofan posted:

Switzerland is not the only country with campaign rules about number of posters and numbers and financing limits, France has those with each candidates allotted the exact same air time on tvs and radios, a tv clip and specific posters.

That's true, the difference is that if tomorrow I wanted to create a new law I could walk out the door, collect 50,000 signatures within 100 days and get it put to referendum, at which point every party gets space on specific temporary billboards. If I disagree with a law that has already been passed, I can do the very same, albeit with a larger number of signatories. Switzerland is the closest country to a direct democracy the world has right now. I find that statement pretty depressing.

This is a poster for a referendum on an initiative to increase the number of licensed nurseries and creches:

"Make love, we'll handle the rest"

# ? Jul 23, 2012 23:10

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# ? Jul 23, 2012 23:23

ReidRansom: Oct 25, 2004

Earth posted:

This photo is probably from somewhere in Iowa considering you can see the Iowa State University and University of Iowa pennants in the upper left corner and not the Penn State people. Just a FYI.

OTOH, that girl on the left appears to be wearing a PENN shirt.

Putin is a nice guy.

# ? Jul 23, 2012 23:38

Bensa: Aug 21, 2007; Loyal 'til the end.

shiffty posted:

So yeah, they're all given guns and trained in their use, as well as most citizens being basically a reserves-style military force with the skills and intermittent training sessions/work obligations for it, but they're not allowed to use their government issued weapons for personal use. Why does that sound so great?

You can use your military issue weapon on your own, and as stated above you can get subsidized ammunition at ranges. These ranges are run on a government mandate so people have equal access. Firearms licenses have been firmed up somewhat to comply with Schengen, such as recording serial numbers and only allowing a single firearm per license (used to be 3). You can still go pick up a license and get a semi-auto assault rifle like the SIG 550 for a couple hundred on the same day.

The anti-immigration posters were run the Swiss People�s Party (SVP), the direction for this change in campaigning and policy direction has come mainly from the Zurich branch. As most political parties in Switzerland are not overly centralized due to linguistic and regional divides, this push by one party branch has been viewed with dismay. This eventually caused the split of the SVP Bern branch, traditionally more centrist, into the Conservative Democratic Party of Switzerland .

This split, along with political scandal, has caused the SVP�s popularity to drop. The 2007 federal election will most likely be the high water mark of the SVP, in the next elections their popularity will probably be closer to 20%. Even at 29% their party was ineffective outside of referenda due to the consensus nature of Swiss politics. Being the largest party doesn�t save you if everyone else hates your guts.

I�ve posted previously about the interpretation of the immigration debate in Switzerland. In my opinion the type of immigration experienced by other countries and their response to it makes them believe that the immigration issue in Switzerland is analogous.
Immigration to Switzerland, unlike most other countries with similar levels, is by educated Europeans. The largest groups are Italians, Germans and Austrians. The Muslim immigrants are from the Balkans and Turkey. In recent years the rate of immigration has really ramped up and now nearly one in four residents in Switzerland do not hold Swiss nationality. There are other factors contributing to this, such as the long naturalization process, but the rate of immigration is the major cause.

This immigration from nearby regions has been going on since the late 19th century, with significant amounts of Italians coming over to work on tunnel building etc. This can be seen in the surnames present in regions which are almost entirely Swiss German speaking and protestant, the immigrants integrated. This is one of the main points of the current immigration debate, that new generations of immigrants are not integrating, this goes against the mentality of a divided country where linguistic, religious, and cultural groups have their own places. You can check the census of neighboring valleys, seeing how one is catholic and one protestant to see that it still matters. The canton of Jura split from Bern in the �70s along linguistic lines but several French speaking communes decided to remain in Bern due to being protestant.

The lack of integration has been brought forward prominently by a referendum passed in Zurich that removed the use of High German in early education. This caused uproar with educated German immigrants, but also raised the question as to why the people with the greatest potential for integration were not doing so. The language barrier is still strong, you can get by with High German but you will never be a part of the community.

A second major issue is that of jobs, lots of vacancies for well educated workers are being filled by the aforementioned German immigrants. The supply of labor, especially in the academic sphere, is so much greater in Germany. The free movement of labor that came along with Schengen has caused increased competition in the lower paid sectors. There are benefits to a fluid labor supply in specific industries, but facing people off against each other to see who can bid the lowest for a job isn�t exactly a healthy way of running a society.
There are also the crime figures but they are problematic due to a lot of factors, but the official statistics say that half of the people convicted for criminal offenses and about 85% for narcotics offenses are non-citizens. That's easy enough to print on the front page.

Some images of the result of direct democracy in action with a well informed voting public (at least on this matter):

# ? Jul 24, 2012 00:07

HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Apr 30, 2005

ReidRansom posted:

OTOH, that girl on the left appears to be wearing a PENN shirt.

Putin is a nice guy.

He sure is :3:

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# ? Jul 24, 2012 00:09

FairyNuff: Jan 22, 2012

ReidRansom posted:

OTOH, that girl on the left appears to be wearing a PENN shirt.

Putin is a nice guy.

# ? Jul 24, 2012 00:12

Enjoy: Apr 18, 2009

Fluo posted:

It's being 'King Robbo' goes around and ruins them.

Walking into town and seeing that, was depressing.

I just looked this "feud" up and it's pretty interesting
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/people/king-robbo-exclusive-interview-my-graffiti-war-with-banksy/

It IS pretty bizarre how councils will spend money repainting Banksy's stuff when it gets "vandalised"

# ? Jul 24, 2012 00:14

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN21MkpmO6U

Part 2

# ? Jul 24, 2012 01:15

poopy pee pee: Feb 13, 2012; I'm a nice guy, hoping to have some fun on these forums, Lol

Earth posted:

This photo is probably from somewhere in Iowa considering you can see the Iowa State University and University of Iowa pennants in the upper left corner and not the Penn State people. Just a FYI.

Change of pace from football talk let's discuss and post pictures about Nice Guys(TM).

Nah, that's definitely the Penn State student union. The banners are actually Illinois and Iowa. I assume they have banners for all the other Big 10 schools up.

More Penn State stuff:

Some great tweets

PSU owns

Edit:

poopy pee pee fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Jul 24, 2012

# ? Jul 24, 2012 01:30

FairyNuff: Jan 22, 2012

Senor Gato posted:

Nah, that's definitely the Penn State student union. The banners are actually Illinois and Iowa. I assume they have banners for all the other Big 10 schools up.

More Penn State stuff:

Some great tweets

PSU owns

Edit:

So to get this straight; the students at this uni are pissed off that some sports coach who was a rapist has had some sporting records wiped out? Why do they feel the sports stuff is more important than the fact that he was involved in sexual abuse? (Not from the US so I haven't really been following this story.)

FairyNuff fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Jul 24, 2012

# ? Jul 24, 2012 02:15

LP97S: Apr 25, 2008

Geokinesis posted:

So to get this straight; the students at this uni are pissed off that some sports coach who was a rapist has had some sporting records wiped out? Why do they feel the sports stuff is more important than the fact that he was involved in sexual abuse? (Not from the US so I haven't really been following this story.)

Not exactly, the assistant coach was the rapist who's facing 373 years in prison now while the head coach, a long timer and money maker for the university, turned a blind eye to it along with a few others in the Sports program, or at least that's what the investigation has turned up thus far.

Lesson is gently caress college sports in the US forever.

# ? Jul 24, 2012 02:21

Kavak: Aug 23, 2009

Geokinesis posted:

Why do they feel the sports stuff is more important than the fact that he was involved in sexual abuse? (Not from the US so I haven't really been following this story.)

Football in the midwestern U.S. is bigger than you can understand. You have hooligans and such? Imagine entire communities that devoted to their team and its' success, if not that violent.

EDIT: Map of team allegiances for the megarule. Penn State is the blank white helmet near that huge cluster in the mideast.

Kavak fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jul 24, 2012

# ? Jul 24, 2012 02:35

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WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES

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# ? Jul 24, 2012 03:25

gowb: Apr 14, 2005

Orange Devil posted:

For all the theoretical merits of Swiss style democracy, they didn't institute women's suffrage until 1971.

That really doesn't have anything to do with the merits of their democracy.

My dad remembers when this was all land. This particular area of Terrebonne, Louisiana was fertile marshland. Even today, the parishes of Terrebonne and Lafourche supply something like 20% of all the crabs and shrimp in the US. That number is obviously going to decline, since no one gives a poo poo enough to provide us with the money to save our state. The levee system was set up to protect the highways to popular tourist destinations that are now separated from the actual coast by dead salt water.

The Mississippi being choked by levees is only part of the problem. It is not helping, but the river only changed course every thousand years or so. The real culprits are the oil companies, who started to crisscross our marshland with canals starting in the '30s. These allowed salt water into the marshes, along with the severe damage boat wakes caused to the soft land surrounding them. We're losing a football field worth of wetland every hour. And we don't even ask the oil companies for money like Alaska does! Cool!

# ? Jul 24, 2012 03:38

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

The amount of buttmad going on in Pennsylvania is amazing.

# ? Jul 24, 2012 03:39

LP97S: Apr 25, 2008

They bombed the wrong part of Pennsylvania in 1985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVbOlY7svfE&t=299s

Video is part of a Documentary which documents when the city of Philadelphia bombed a house and let it burn down in 1985.

# ? Jul 24, 2012 03:51

poopy pee pee: Feb 13, 2012; I'm a nice guy, hoping to have some fun on these forums, Lol

Geokinesis posted:

So to get this straight; the students at this uni are pissed off that some sports coach who was a rapist has had some sporting records wiped out? Why do they feel the sports stuff is more important than the fact that he was involved in sexual abuse? (Not from the US so I haven't really been following this story.)

To add even more context, the rapist was Jerry Sandusky, Penn State's longtime defensive coordinator. He was considered to be one of the best in the game and integral to Penn State's massive success in the 1980's. Sandusky was basically the head-coach-in-waiting at Penn State until he suddenly decided to retire in 1999, ostensibly in order to devote more time to the Second Mile, his charity for at-risk youth.

As it turned out, he used the Second Mile to find his victims, often grooming them by taking them to Penn State games, getting them time with football players, etc. On more than one occasion before the successful investigation started in 2008, Sandusky came quite close to getting caught. These are the incidents I'm aware of, spoilered for :nms:

content:
1) A 1998 investigation that was dropped by DA Ray Gricar. During the investigation, the mother of the victim called Sandusky, with police present, and got him to admit that he had showered with her son, to admit that it was inappropriate to do so, and to apologize for doing it.
2) A 2000 incident in which a PSU janitor witnessed him performing oral sex on a boy in the Penn State shower room. The janitor was afraid to report it, for fear of losing his job. He never testified in front of the grand jury or court because a combination of Korean War experience, the trauma of witnessing the incident, and dementia left him mentally incompetent to testify.
3) In 2002, then-graduate assistant and former Penn State quarterback Mike McQueary saw Sandusky anally raping a 10-12 year old boy in the Penn State showers. Both Sandusky and his victim clearly saw McQueary, and this caused Sandusky to stop and leave with the child. McQueary called his father and then head coach Joe Paterno. Ultimately, nothing came of this incident as Penn State officials covered it up. Although they did tell Sandusky to stay away from the State College campus. McQueary was, until recently, an assistant coach at PSU, by the way.
4) At some point, after 2002, I'm pretty sure a high school coach saw him lying on top of a kid to crack his back (part of his grooming process), whereupon Sandusky told him they were "just wrestling."

Sandusky, up until this story broke last year, was a widely respected, even revered, figure around campus and among all Penn State fans. Only Paterno (and perhaps not even him) was more instrumental to Penn State's football success; plus, Sandusky, who dedicated much of his time to the Second Mile even before he retired, was seen as a very charitable figure. However, Joe Paterno was even more deified. It's hard to convey how highly the people of State College, and college football fans in general, though of Paterno. He was very ostentatious about doing things "the right way," such as keeping PSU's uniforms deliberately plain and old-fashioned (no names on the jerseys, simple blue and white color scheme), focusing on making sure players graduated, and not committing recruiting violations.

So it really came as a shock to everyone that Joe Paterno, the kindly grandfather of college football, knew of the 2002 incident and didn't do anything besides reporting it to two of his "superiors" (by all accounts, JoePa was de facto the most powerful person at Penn State, despite being only a football coach). Penn State "fired" him, which sparked a minor riot on campus. Later, he died of lung cancer. There was still some wiggle room for the apologists to pretend he was blameless while accepting the basic, known facts until, quite recently, the Freeh Report was released.

The Freeh Report was the result of a Penn State-commissioned, months-long investigation by former FBI director Louis Freeh, which concluded, among other things, that Paterno knew of and closely followed Sandusky's 1998 sex abuse investigation, and that Paterno instigated the coverup of the 2002 incident. For example, a leaked email from one of the conspirators to the others mentions that he talked to Paterno, and that he had changed his mind about their plan (which initially involved actually reporting the incident). Basically, apologists now have to believe in a vast media conspiracy against JoePa if they want to justify their lovely opinions.

Things got even crazier when Penn State took down the statue of Joe Paterno outside the stadium this weekend, which many fans strongly opposed. Earlier today, the NCAA (the governing body of major college sports) announced major penalties for Penn State football, including: a $60 million dollar fine, which iirc is to be paid out in 5 years, $12 mil a year; 4 years of no postseason play (which is an enormous disincentive for prospective players to come there); 4 years of substantially reduced football scholarships (which hurts their ability to field a high-quality team); and vacating all of their wins from 1998-2011, which demotes JoePa from winningest college football coach, and establishes Mike McQueary as the last Penn State quarterback to win a game. Many Penn State people feel they're being unfairly punished.

Sorry for all the :words:

, but even this fails to scratch the surface of all the hosed up things that have been said and done throughout this whole scandal.

Joe Paterno

Sandusky and Paterno

Sandusky right after he was convicted (he really thought he was going to get away with it, until the end)

Read the TFF threads if you want more info, they're quite good:
The first thread
The second thread
The third thread
The fourth thread
The current thread

Edit: Have more pics

poopy pee pee fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Jul 24, 2012

# ? Jul 24, 2012 04:20

Georgia Peach: Jan 7, 2005; SECESSION IS FUTILE

Senor Gato posted:

What the gently caress.

Edit:

Georgia Peach fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jul 24, 2012

# ? Jul 24, 2012 04:41

Luminous Cow: Nov 2, 2007; Well you know there should be no law
on people that want to smoke a little dope.
Well you know it's good for your head
And it relax your body don't you know.

Georgia Peach posted:

What the gently caress.

Didn't you know? Covering up for a child rapist is comparable to two adults having consensual sex. It's only common sense!

Also, post a picture.

# ? Jul 24, 2012 04:49

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

Georgia Peach posted:

What the gently caress.

That is Glenn McCoy. He is among the worst of the worst as far as political cartoonists go. His brother, Gary, also a cartoonist, is also poo poo. Glenn and Gary regularly pump out the most vile political cartoons that insult gays, blacks, Latinos, or anybody they don't like IE anybody that isn't as radically conservative as they are.

You can find more great political opinions from some witty fellows that can kind of draw in this thread!

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3460628&pagenumber=385#post402347816

Darkman Fanpage fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jul 24, 2012

# ? Jul 24, 2012 04:51

Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

Georgia Peach posted:

What the gently caress.

That's Glenn McCoy, who also gave us "just making sure there are no survivors."

Feel free to join us in the political cartoon thread for hundreds of pages of pure contempt.

Edit: Crasscrab beat me to it, so have a Dees.

Chamale fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Jul 24, 2012

# ? Jul 24, 2012 04:56

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Senor Gato posted:

pre:

         ↑   ↑
"PEE-PEE"     "DOO-DOO"

IT IS A DOUBLE STANDARD.

e: dammit I thought this was the cartoon thread, let me try and dig something up.

Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Jul 24, 2012

# ? Jul 24, 2012 06:39

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Jul 24, 2012

# ? Jul 24, 2012 07:42

Deleuzionist: Jul 20, 2010; we respect the antelope; for the antelope is not a mere antelope

Penn State supporters appear not-so-vaguely cultish.

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# ? Jul 24, 2012 09:25

MrL_JaKiri: Sep 23, 2003; A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Kavak posted:

Football in the midwestern U.S. is bigger than you can understand. You have hooligans and such? Imagine entire communities that devoted to their team and its' success, if not that violent.

Yes, we have them too. They're called "fans".

And the groups that you'd probably call football hooligans aren't all bad:

# ? Jul 24, 2012 11:48

Soviet Commubot: Oct 22, 2008

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Yes, we have them too. They're called "fans".

And the groups that you'd probably call football hooligans aren't all bad:

I will never, ever grasp that sort of political role for sports teams. I can understand regional and even sectarian associations but the pro-fascist and anti-fascist supporter clubs I see are a completely alien concept to me.

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# ? Jul 24, 2012 12:09

FairyNuff: Jan 22, 2012

Senor Gato posted:

That is loving terrible.
Especially people caring so much about some loving sport over it.

(Also sports scholarships are a such a bizarre thing.)

# ? Jul 24, 2012 13:33

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Kavak posted:

As an ex-Miamian,

# ? Jul 24, 2012 13:45

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