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CuddleChunks
Sep 18, 2004

Casu Marzu posted:

This is a wrong opinion.

Exactly. A martini is a cocktail - a mixed drink. It's not hard to get right but it's way too easy to turn a elegant glass of paint stripper into some drat idiotic blah-tini.

5 shots good gin
1 shot dry vermouth

Pour over ice, swirl, strain into a couple martini glasses and serve. Garnish with a twist of lemon or an olive. A pickled caper berry is a nice touch too. Everything should be cold as hell so that you have an oily looking cocktail that seduces you with its siren call. Drink slowly you goon, those martini glasses are tricky business.

You can be an rear end in a top hat and shake it up like you're in a James Bond film but now you've gone off the rails and lord help you if you step into my drinking circle. You'll get some really snide looks and we'll even post bitchy comments on facebook about you.



If you want a serious taste awakening then try a scotch and soda. Find a good, drinkable scotch (Lagavulin, Laphroaig, or Glenmorangie are good starters) and dump a couple shots worth into a tumbler. Get your seltzer dispenser and whoosh that bad boy up until it's near the rim. Go sit yourself in your favorite chair and reawaken your senses to scotch. It's glorious!

Now, make another few and have yourself a merry old time.

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homerlaw
Sep 21, 2008

Plants are the best ergo Sylvari=Best
On the downside: I got Jalapeno in my eye.
On the upside: It hurts less than last time.

Related question, is there any way I can be less affected by raw onions? I love the taste, but I can't cook with them without darting in and out of the kitchen to wash out my eyes.

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

homerlaw posted:

On the downside: I got Jalapeno in my eye.
On the upside: It hurts less than last time.

Related question, is there any way I can be less affected by raw onions? I love the taste, but I can't cook with them without darting in and out of the kitchen to wash out my eyes.

Run em under cold water for a bit. Chop under your hood, or harden the gently caress up.

dino.
Mar 28, 2010

Yip Yip, bitch.
Use the sharpest knife you have. The blunt ones tend to cause a whole lot of pain.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

CuddleChunks posted:

Exactly. A martini is a cocktail - a mixed drink.


yes. gin, stirred on ice with a twist.

I'll take it with the glass rinsed with vermouth depending on the gin used, but any more is rubbish.

GrAviTy84 fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Aug 21, 2012

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

homerlaw posted:

Related question, is there any way I can be less affected by raw onions? I love the taste, but I can't cook with them without darting in and out of the kitchen to wash out my eyes.

yes. gin, stirred on ice with a twist.



Cheap safety glasses

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
Back to bitters chat, I go through a 10oz bottle in about a month and a half. But I put like a tablespoon or more in every old fashioned or sazerac that I make.

The Tinfoil Price
Jun 19, 2012

Calamari Express

Mr. Wiggles posted:

Back to bitters chat, I go through a 10oz bottle in about a month and a half. But I put like a tablespoon or more in every old fashioned or sazerac that I make.

What bitters would you recommend? I've got a bottle of Angostura lying around somewhere...

Rule .303
Dec 9, 2011
(Instructions are just some other guy's opinion)

homerlaw posted:

On the downside: I got Jalapeno in my eye.
On the upside: It hurts less than last time.

Related question, is there any way I can be less affected by raw onions? I love the taste, but I can't cook with them without darting in and out of the kitchen to wash out my eyes.

In Like Water for Chocolate it was suggested that you put the cut end of the onion on your head to keep from crying.
This, of course, does not work. But it is fun to watch people try it.

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

Buy all the bitters. I have a bottle of Angostura, Peychauds, Regan's orange bitters (loving amazing in an old fashioned), and some Pimms #1. I used to have a bottle of grapefruit bitters were amazing, but ran out pretty fast.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
I prefer Peychard's, but Angosturra is also okay. I once had a really great bottle of blood orange bitters but I used them all with champagne for breakfast and I forget who made them.

The Tinfoil Price
Jun 19, 2012

Calamari Express
Do you remember what the bottle looked like?

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
It was.....bottle-ly. With a white label.

mindphlux
Jan 8, 2004

by R. Guyovich

CuddleChunks posted:

Exactly. A martini is a cocktail - a mixed drink. It's not hard to get right but it's way too easy to turn a elegant glass of paint stripper into some drat idiotic blah-tini.

5 shots good gin
1 shot dry vermouth

Pour over ice, swirl, strain into a couple martini glasses and serve. Garnish with a twist of lemon or an olive. A pickled caper berry is a nice touch too. Everything should be cold as hell so that you have an oily looking cocktail that seduces you with its siren call. Drink slowly you goon, those martini glasses are tricky business.

sorry gotta heavily disagree here. a martini has at *very* most a spritz of vermouth (like half a shot in the glass, swirl it around, shake it out)

I won't argue about the garnish (twist of lime in my book) because it's a point of preference - but if you're putting more than a miniscule amount of vermouth in the glass, poo poo ain't a martini






I have this horrible memory of being sort of drunk in a casino in the UK, and I had just won a fairly large amount of money (for myself at the time, I don't know, it was like 600 pounds or something) playing poker. one of the casino managers offered me a drink - anything I wanted - and I asked for a gordon's (tanqueray) martini.

I don't know if like, the entirety of the united kingdom has never heard of a martini or really what was going on, but apparently no one on their entire barstaff knew how to make one? so I tried to explain like 'you just put a spritz of vermouth in a glass, pour it out, shake a couple measures of gin over ice, then strain the gin into the glass and garnish with lime'. the bartender lady was like ... "ok!! :) :)"

and 20 minutes later I got a highball glass full of luke warm gin which a shot of sweet vermouth had clearly just been poured into. it was one of the most disgusting things I've forced myself to down in recent memory, and this was like 3 years ago. :( RIP good martinis, RIP.

mindphlux fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Aug 21, 2012

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

I dunno. I like about a half a shot of vermouth in my martinis.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

Is a crantini a martini?

mindphlux
Jan 8, 2004

by R. Guyovich
what is a crantini

kiteless
Aug 31, 2003

with this bracken for a blanket, where these limbs stick out like bones
Well, poo poo. I'm taking a week off here soon (woohoo) and it looks like besides 18 home improvement projects and designing 2 websites and 28 cooking projects I will now be adding "make tonic" to my ever-growing and totally ridiculously long want-to-do list.

Also, Lillet Rose on the rocks with a grapefruit twist is goddamn refreshing.

The Tinfoil Price
Jun 19, 2012

Calamari Express

mindphlux posted:

what is a crantini

An abomination. The bastard inbred half-sibling of appletinis, chocotinis and kitchensinktinis.

A martini is gin (an argument can be made for vodka), a SMALL amount of vermouth and possibly a lemon twist or a few olives. Dirty martinis with olive brine potentially acceptable.

pork never goes bad
May 16, 2008

my preferred "martini" is 1.5/1.5, dolin and bruichladdich botanist, 2 shake peychauds, stir, twist. either way, it's sort of a moot point - the martini with vermouth is a wretched, pedestrian drink, better replaced with any number of alternatives. without vermouth, or with little vermouth, it's thinly veiled alcoholism with an aftertaste of bitter inadequacy and trying too hard.

Jay Carney
Mar 23, 2007

If you do that you will die on the toilet.
You guys know that despite whatever nonsense churchill imprinted upon the popular consciousness a martini most definitely is a mixed drink with a noticeable amount of vermouth and everything else requires a pair of these: ""?

I mean, I enjoy drinking chilled clear liquor as much as the next guy and if I want to order it I will call it a martini but in the end it really isn't.

Also, I believe the original martini is even further off than any of us have posted and includes gin, vodka, vermouth, something else, and oh god I want to drink so bad only two weeks left :(

mindphlux
Jan 8, 2004

by R. Guyovich
:mad:

CuddleChunks
Sep 18, 2004

mindphlux posted:

and 20 minutes later I got a highball glass full of luke warm gin which a shot of sweet vermouth had clearly just been poured into. it was one of the most disgusting things I've forced myself to down in recent memory, and this was like 3 years ago. :( RIP good martinis, RIP.

Summary: you drank the salsa chicken of mixed drinks and you're trying to lay that on the feet of the martini.

I will fight you


Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

Halalelujah posted:

You guys know that despite whatever nonsense churchill imprinted upon the popular consciousness a martini most definitely is a mixed drink with a noticeable amount of vermouth and everything else requires a pair of these: ""?

I mean, I enjoy drinking chilled clear liquor as much as the next guy and if I want to order it I will call it a martini but in the end it really isn't.

Also, I believe the original martini is even further off than any of us have posted and includes gin, vodka, vermouth, something else, and oh god I want to drink so bad only two weeks left :(

I'm sippin a rye manhattan with orange bitters for you right now.

icehewk
Jul 7, 2003

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!
I dunno, best martini I had was a glass rinsed with vodka, vodka shaken with ice and topped off with an ounce of pickle juice.

pogothemonkey0
Oct 13, 2005

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:
^^^ A glass rinsed with vodka?

pork never goes bad posted:

my preferred "martini" is 1.5/1.5, dolin and bruichladdich botanist, 2 shake peychauds, stir, twist. either way, it's sort of a moot point - the martini with vermouth is a wretched, pedestrian drink, better replaced with any number of alternatives. without vermouth, or with little vermouth, it's thinly veiled alcoholism with an aftertaste of bitter inadequacy and trying too hard.

Agreed.

That said, I have never had a martini I like. I'm a huge fan of gin but I am not super into drinking it (essentially) straight. Maybe if I could afford better than Gordon's (which is awesome for cheap gin) then I might enjoy a well-done martini. Last time I ordered one I asked for one made with Bombay original and it was utterly revolting. I watched the bartender make it and she did the whole flashy bartending move where they start pouring and raise the bottle raise it as they do so, pouring from like 1.5 feet away then back down again... with the vermouth. And then she must have shaken it with like no ice because I got a warm vermouth with a splash of gin.

Filboid Studge
Oct 1, 2010
And while they debated the matter among themselves, Conradin made himself another piece of toast.

Good martinis are only to be found in high-end places or people's houses in the UK. Even a lot of places with decent cocktail menus make shite martinis.

Dane
Jun 18, 2003

mmm... creamy.

homerlaw posted:

On the downside: I got Jalapeno in my eye.
On the upside: It hurts less than last time.

Related question, is there any way I can be less affected by raw onions? I love the taste, but I can't cook with them without darting in and out of the kitchen to wash out my eyes.

Spray bottle with the setting on the finest mist. When you start feeling the tears, a few sprays in the air over the cutting area, and you're golden.

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

Churchill was quoted as saying that the best martini was a glass of gin, raised in the direction of France. Or something like that.

He was wrong about martinis too.

I've been given a crock pot by a friend. I have no idea if it even works. Is there a way to test if it'll get up to the proper temperatures without ruining, say, a whole brisket in the event that it doesn't?

DekeThornton
Sep 2, 2011

Be friends!

Bertrand Hustle posted:


I've been given a crock pot by a friend. I have no idea if it even works. Is there a way to test if it'll get up to the proper temperatures without ruining, say, a whole brisket in the event that it doesn't?

Wouldn't just heating some water in it be sufficient to be able to test the temperature, assuming you have a thermometer handy.

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

DekeThornton posted:

Wouldn't just heating some water in it be sufficient to be able to test the temperature, assuming you have a thermometer handy.

I suppose that'd work. Now to look up what temperature each setting is supposed to be.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
Wait, Vermouth only lasts like a week in the fridge?

gently caress I guess I'm done drinking Manhattans then.

DekeThornton
Sep 2, 2011

Be friends!

FishBulb posted:

Wait, Vermouth only lasts like a week in the fridge?

It's safe to drink for a year at least. It just loses flavour over time.

link

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

homerlaw posted:


Related question, is there any way I can be less affected by raw onions? I love the taste, but I can't cook with them without darting in and out of the kitchen to wash out my eyes.

Here ya go you big baby

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009


CuddleChunks
Sep 18, 2004


just don't

loving loving gently caress

thine tanqueray faggots

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

Fishing really is the best past time. Relaxing and you get to eat tasty foods.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
I need a name for my soccer team this year. Last year I went with Riot Squad because we got Galaxy colors, but this year I'm stuck with blue/black. Nothing Earthquakes or Chelsea related please. Appropriate name for a team of 10 year olds, please. I was thinking Boca Jrs. Jrs. but I'm afraid some of the Mexican kids on my team might not take kindly to an Argentinian name.

Maybe Internazionale Yerington (our town name?)

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Casu Marzu posted:

Fishing really is the best past time. Relaxing and you get to eat tasty foods.

Except when you pull out a tasty catfish and realize it's covered in tumors. Still relaxing, but the desire to eat it just melts away. I don't like the pond by me.

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mindphlux
Jan 8, 2004

by R. Guyovich

Mr. Wiggles posted:

I need a name for my soccer team this year. Last year I went with Riot Squad because we got Galaxy colors, but this year I'm stuck with blue/black. Nothing Earthquakes or Chelsea related please. Appropriate name for a team of 10 year olds, please. I was thinking Boca Jrs. Jrs. but I'm afraid some of the Mexican kids on my team might not take kindly to an Argentinian name.

Maybe Internazionale Yerington (our town name?)

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