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That's a good point.
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I named her "shiv." I wanted her to act hard, yo, like she'd done time.
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Sep 12, 2012 08:24
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Defiance Industries posted:I named her "shiv." I wanted her to act hard, yo, like she'd done time. Wouldn't this conflict with Shiva, though? I forget, can summons be renamed in 9?
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Sep 12, 2012 08:45
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This may be a dumb question, but has anyone heard anything about plans to put the Anniversary edition of FF1 on the PSN? I really don't want to purchase a UMD this late in the PSP life cycle. EDIT: It just really makes no sense to me that they would release it for the iOS/Android market but not on the PSN. Devorum fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Sep 12, 2012 |
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Sep 12, 2012 08:56
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My sister named her 'ouch' because she thought the idea was Garnet cut herself on the dagger 
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Defiance Industries posted:I named her "shiv." I wanted her to act hard, yo, like she'd done time. I called her Shiv too! Seemed appropriate given the lack of sharp weapons in her roster  It's a shame we can't go back to the pre-VA days of RPGs where you can name people. In games where you have generic units you still can, of course. Or even just have it so the players are referred to as a nickname but you can choose their actual name. Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne even had the option of giving your characters a forename and surname
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Sep 12, 2012 09:43
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Hedera Helix posted:Wouldn't this conflict with Shiva, though? One thing I can really imagine wanting for the next game is having an interconnected and cohesive world with expansive environments, such as FFXII or Xenoblade, but with an old school FF world map feel to it between the various locales (thinking anything FFI - IX), but instead of being a freakish giant, you're at a more realistic scale and there's that vivid green grass, rivers, looming huge mountains and oceans around you, and all the features we know about including kickass music you never get bored of, even years later. You know, mixing old with new. I can't help but think of Xenoblade's Gaur Plains as an example, and to a lesser extent, Dragon's Dogma (I've only seen videos though, so may be off there). Talk about pie in the sky though 
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Sep 12, 2012 09:48
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ImpAtom posted:gently caress no, it's still a stupid scene in the Japanese version, but "well, make it foreign" isn't really a solution because that is what they did in the first place. Well, it's also partly because there's an actual cultural aspect to it too. You know how everyone in the west loving loves tattoo of kanji, even when they don't necessarily know what it means or give a poo poo? It's pretty much the same thing. Using English denoties a certain style and coolness, hence why you see so much weird and irrelevant gibberish, even on simple things like a can of beer.  See that English text? Japanese people aren't reading that poo poo, it's more like a kind of graphic design element. It's not especially engrishy, sure, but it also doesn't match up with the actual Japanese down below it. THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Yeah Dagger literally picked up a Dagger and then said "This is called a Dagger? Then I will name myself..." And you get a naming prompt. Well, that's true of a lot of the characters. You could also name Freya one of the names Zidane accidentally called her. "Stacy?" "Argh, no!" "I'm just kidding, I know your name is...Stacy!" Let's not even get into the stupid poo poo you could name Amarant. All I'll say is that I was 16 when it came out. Pyroxene Stigma posted:Japan? They love little flavor bits like that. The FF VII manual even lists each character's blood type. You know that's not just a fluff thing, right? Blood types in Japanese culture. It's like a horoscope. Zellyn fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Sep 12, 2012 |
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Sep 12, 2012 09:50
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If you've never done a 'Call every single character Sephiroth' run of FF7 you are missing out (on hours of nonsense conversations and confusing plot twists)
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Sep 12, 2012 09:57
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Stoat posted:If you've never done a 'Call every single character Sephiroth' run of FF7 you are missing out (on hours of nonsense conversations and confusing plot twists) My real name's Zack, and boy let me tell ya, when I renamed Squall it made FF6 really funny!
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Sep 12, 2012 10:03
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Stoat posted:If you've never done a 'Call every single character Sephiroth' run of FF7 you are missing out (on hours of nonsense conversations and confusing plot twists) Just name them all DICK and it's even better.
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Sep 12, 2012 10:07
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^ I recently named Aeris, "a hobo." "sephiroth you killed a hobo" Fister Roboto posted:No that just means it didn't have a consistent tone. I mean it's all SERIOUS SERIOUS WE'RE JUST SLAVES ARGH I'M GONNA SHOOT MYSELF and then suddenly HAHAHA WACKY MASCOT CHARACTER SHENANIGANS. That's not to say that a serious story can't have comic relief, but to be good it needs to fit with the overall tone. You see that kind of inconsistent tone thing in a lot of anime, and FF13 just happens to be The Biggest Anime. ApplesandOranges posted:It might even be weirder if they didn't have a last name - it worked for FFX due to the whole doomwhale killing off people regularly so I guess parents getting killed off early was a bit of a given, but in most games where you presumably have societies and such, why wouldn't they have a last name? Human 
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Sep 12, 2012 10:07
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Mister Roboto posted:My real name's Zack, and boy let me tell ya, when I renamed Squall it made FF6 really funny!  WeaponBoy posted:You know that's not just a fluff thing, right? Blood types in Japanese culture. It's like a horoscope. I'm aware of that, and... it's fluff. If Shulk from Xenoblade is an Aquarius, that still doesn't tell me anything about Shulk because blood types and astrological signs are fluff.
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Sep 12, 2012 10:19
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The White Dragon posted:They totally had last names. Seymour Guado, Kimahri Ronso. Yuna I always assumed Braska was the family name, though it was weird that none of the human characters seemed to have surnames. I mean, the game had an entirely made up (and academically stupid) language based on symbol replacement, but no surnames?
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Sep 12, 2012 10:19
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WeaponBoy posted:Let's not even get into the stupid poo poo you could name Amarant. All I'll say is that I was 16 when it came out. I named him Lips. EarthBound isn't the only one who can do musical references.
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Sep 12, 2012 10:52
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Last names in these games aren't a big deal to me anymore after finding out Cecil's last name is freaking Harvey. So the sequel then gives you...Ceodore Harvey.
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Sep 12, 2012 11:02
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Have they ever spoken about the origin of the name Zidane? It may well be wishful thinking but based on when the game came out and how Korea and Japan were to hold the football World Cup, it feels like it should tie into the best footballer in the world at the time, Zinedine Zidane. The name is Algerian so I guess there could have been a different influence from there, but the timing of it seems huge.
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Fat Turkey posted:Have they ever spoken about the origin of the name Zidane? It may well be wishful thinking but based on when the game came out and how Korea and Japan were to hold the football World Cup, it feels like it should tie into the best footballer in the world at the time, Zinedine Zidane. I remember when it came out everyone I knew was convinced they named a blonde monkey man after Zinedine Zidane. Except in the French version of the game he's called... Djidane. If it was intended to be the football player I don't know why they'd change the name in his own country. Also his japanese name was Jitan I don't even know what that's supposed to be mean
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Sep 12, 2012 11:31
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According to the Wikiaquote:All spellings of Zidane's name are somewhat phonetically close to the French word "gitane", which means "gypsy", although this word is used for women. Vincent Zouzoulkovsky, lead translator of the French version of Final Fantasy IX, revealed in an interview that the change from the official spelling "Zidane" to the French spelling "Djidane" was done for the sole purpose of avoiding any misplaced association between the character and the French soccer player Zinedine Zidane.
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Sep 12, 2012 11:49
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Polite Tim posted:I always assumed Braska was the family name, though it was weird that none of the human characters seemed to have surnames. I mean, the game had an entirely made up (and academically stupid) language based on symbol replacement, but no surnames? There was Yo Mika and Wen Kinoc, 2 of the 4 maesters. Obviously only the extremely powerful and religious get surnames in Spira. Although what does O'aka the XXIII count as?
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Sep 12, 2012 12:05
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Idioteque Dance posted:Speaking of which, "Arc" was never seen in any another FF game, right? Play Dragon Quest VIII, if you somehow haven't. But yes, I'd love to see this done again since it loving ruled.
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Sep 12, 2012 12:45
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Wendell posted:Play Dragon Quest VIII, if you somehow haven't. But yes, I'd love to see this done again since it loving ruled. Idioteque Dance fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Sep 12, 2012 |
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Sep 12, 2012 12:48
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Idioteque Dance posted:Good point, this is a great example. Just, for the love of god, with seamless battles instead of random battles. DQVIII was beautiful but the battles were a serious bummer. I'd just love to see that kind of thing with a bigger, more jaw-dropping scale (WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY) and a distinctly FF world map aesthetic. Dragon QUest IX does it! Hopefully DQX will do as well.
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Idioteque Dance posted:One thing I can really imagine wanting for the next game is having an interconnected and cohesive world with expansive environments, such as FFXII or Xenoblade, but with an old school FF world map feel to it between the various locales (thinking anything FFI - IX), but instead of being a freakish giant, you're at a more realistic scale and there's that vivid green grass, rivers, looming huge mountains and oceans around you, and all the features we know about including kickass music you never get bored of, even years later. You know, mixing old with new. I can't help but think of Xenoblade's Gaur Plains as an example, and to a lesser extent, Dragon's Dogma (I've only seen videos though, so may be off there). Both of the MMORPGs fit this criteria. 
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fount of knowledge posted:Both of the MMORPGs fit this criteria. XIV even has the bonus feature of all the rivers being copy-pasted, like a tileset!  **Until next year when they completely relaunch the game.
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The two hours I spent in XIV in late beta were literally the least fun I've ever had while playing a video game.
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Stoat posted:If you've never done a 'Call every single character Sephiroth' run of FF7 you are missing out (on hours of nonsense conversations and confusing plot twists) Having enough rename cards to name everyone KEFKA for his final speech in FFVI is pretty good too. I could see FFVII's story making about the same amount of sense with everyone named Sephiroth... Pyroxene Stigma posted:I'm aware of that, and... it's fluff. If Shulk from Xenoblade is an Aquarius, that still doesn't tell me anything about Shulk because blood types and astrological signs are fluff. I heard it's more serious there, like employment discrimination for "lazy" blood types serious.
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Sep 12, 2012 15:17
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Japan? They love little flavor bits like that. The FF VII manual even lists each character's blood type. Does blood type have some special significance in Japanese culture? They seem to do this in other games too (Street Fighter for example; I'm sure there are a lot of others).
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Sep 12, 2012 17:55
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Ross posted:Does blood time have some special significance in Japanese culture? They seem to do this in other games too (Street Fighter for example; I'm sure there are a lot of others). It's considered an indicator of personality type and interpersonal compatibility much like astrological sign is in the West.
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Sep 12, 2012 17:57
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Boten Anna posted:XIV even has the bonus feature of all the rivers being copy-pasted, like a tileset! What? They're not just gonna disown the drat thing? 11 already exists... p.crestmont posted:I heard it's more serious there, like employment discrimination for "lazy" blood types serious. Myers-Briggs personality test-level serious, really.
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Pollyanna posted:What? They're not just gonna disown the drat thing? 11 already exists... Its getting a full relaunch and PS3 release. FFXI is also about 11-12 years old now so they're going to try to make FFXIV work. It is massively improved from launch and after the new upgrade will basically be a new game designed by the guy who should have been in charge in the first place.
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Barudak posted:Its getting a full relaunch and PS3 release. FFXI is also about 11-12 years old now so they're going to try to make FFXIV work. It is massively improved from launch and after the new upgrade will basically be a new game designed by the guy who should have been in charge in the first place. Can you give me a couple sentences about what was so bad? I remember it was a panned universally at launch, but I never looked into it whatsoever after until I heard about SE apologizing profusely and saying they were going to fix it. I did some googling and all I can find is "unfinished".
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Loving Life Partner posted:Can you give me a couple sentences about what was so bad? I remember it was a panned universally at launch, but I never looked into it whatsoever after until I heard about SE apologizing profusely and saying they were going to fix it. Basically it was FFXI at launch all over again which means no quests, no jobs, no skills, no cool areas, bad UI, and tons of grinding. Then the guy who made FFXI and FFXIV got fired and was replaced with the guy who fixed FFXI into a good game and now FFXIV is going to relaunch into what will probably be a good game.
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That's basically it. There wasn't a ton to do in the game, but once you hit later levels, there was NOTHING to do. That's the opposite of every mmo I can think of. Usually you tolerate the grind for the fun poo poo endgame players get access to.
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Barudak posted:Basically it was FFXI at launch all over again which means no quests, no jobs, no skills, no cool areas, bad UI, and tons of grinding. Then the guy who made FFXI and FFXIV got fired and was replaced with the guy who fixed FFXI into a good game and now FFXIV is going to relaunch into what will probably be a good game. What's the good points of it? How would it compare to games like Guild Wars, WoW, etc.? What're draws of the system?
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Sep 12, 2012 19:43
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Loving Life Partner posted:Ever since I had a call from Thor about his auto insurance, I'm 100% positive there are a few dozen Cloud's and Squall's running around out there. Thor's an actual Scandinavian name, like Freya or Balder. If you ever meet anyone named Odin or Loki, though, those are just the children of vikaboos.
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Sep 12, 2012 19:45
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Pollyanna posted:What's the good points of it? How would it compare to games like Guild Wars, WoW, etc.? What're draws of the system? No classes - your equipment determines what you can do. It's prettier than FFXI. That's all I can think of. 2.0 is supposedly a different beast entirely, and one I know nothing about.
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FFXIV A Realm Reborn looks seriously awesome, though.
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I'm going to assume that when FFXIV is finally launched for reals it's going to be a good game. If only because there's no way Square didn't notice the backlash.Pyroxene Stigma posted:No classes - your equipment determines what you can do. It's probably more accurate to say what weapon you're using at the moment determines your class. One thing I liked when I played it a little in beta was that crafting had its own classes.
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Wide open customization and big emphasis on deep crafting, I eat that poo poo up, I EAT. IT. UP. I may check it out if it has a trial or something, but needless to say WoW's takeover pissed me off at least with regards to crafting. There should be some experimentation, some danger of loss, and some fun in crafting, not just taking a grocery list of items and hitting "Craft!" and TADA!
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