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henkman
Oct 8, 2008

bunnielab posted:

Chili is exactly one thing and cooking mushrooms for hours is gross as gently caress.

I put mushrooms in when I make ragu that cooks for hours and it's not gross as gently caress. Maybe you suck at cooking mushrooms

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Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Scott Bakula posted:

Chilli in the UK is generally absolutely crap for all sorts of reasons, the main one being I've never met anyone who doesn't just use standard supermarket chilli powder. This is largely due to the variety of dried and fresh chillis being fairly non-existant outside of searching online or very rare specialist shops.

My local supermarket had a massive overhaul of their fresh fruit and veg section and there are now 4 chillis available after years of some generic red chillis and birdseye if you're lucky

Yeah, this. As a brit, what passes for Chili in the UK is pretty grim. I'm lucky enough to be able to get a bunch of different chilis nearby to make my own powder, but everyone thinks I'm weird for not making my chili with minced beef :/

Powdered Toast Man
Jan 25, 2005

TOAST-A-RIFIC!!!
I'd like to make some chili that is delicious, but not spicy, because my wife is sensitive to hot stuff. I can add my own heat to it after the fact. Most of the good (red) chili recipes involve a fuckload of peppers and chili powder. I've seen the canned chipotles in adobo mentioned several times but I don't really know how hot those are. Any suggestions on how I can make a non-spicy chili without it ending up bland?

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

bunnielab posted:

Chili is beef + chili peppers.

And beans. Beans are very important.

I also like onion and garlic and other spices and sometimes even curry chili or making it with pork or venison or goat but pretty much there's always beans involved.

cornface
Dec 28, 2006

by Lowtax

Powdered Toast Man posted:

I'd like to make some chili that is delicious, but not spicy, because my wife is sensitive to hot stuff. I can add my own heat to it after the fact. Most of the good (red) chili recipes involve a fuckload of peppers and chili powder. I've seen the canned chipotles in adobo mentioned several times but I don't really know how hot those are. Any suggestions on how I can make a non-spicy chili without it ending up bland?

You just need to start with a base that isn't excessively spicy and add in your powder over the course of cooking, making sure to taste it regularly.

Unless you are throwing in handfuls of habeneros, most of the heat is probably going to be from the powder.

Start with something like anchos and jalepenos that are fairly mild and work your own blend up from there.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Mr. Wiggles posted:

And beans. Beans are very important.

I also like onion and garlic and other spices and sometimes even curry chili or making it with pork or venison or goat but pretty much there's always beans involved.

I am slowly coming around to beans but only in ground meat or sausage heavy chilies.

And yes, a more accurate statement would have been "beef + spices, of which fresh or dried chilies should be the main focus". Mushroom are still stupid and tomatoes are missing the point.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

bunnielab posted:

I am slowly coming around to beans but only in ground meat or sausage heavy chilies.

And yes, a more accurate statement would have been "beef + spices, of which fresh or dried chilies should be the main focus". Mushroom are still stupid and tomatoes are missing the point.

I'd probably side with you on the mushrooms and tomatoes thing.

YEAH DOG
Sep 24, 2009

you wanna join my
primitive noise band?
Mush some beans as a thickener, don't tell any antibeantites.

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
Chili can't actually exist, it is only an idea

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
So what you're saying is that you can bend the chili?

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
I certainly can't put a spoon in it.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
Petition to move thread to TCC.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
God forbid anyone put venison, pork, onions, tomatoes, chocolate, or anything else in their chili. Sometimes I even use celery, carrots or broccoli stems. I can almost hear the cries of goons passing bricks right now.

SmuglyDismissed
Nov 27, 2007
IGNORE ME!!!
Can we just rename this to the "chili" thread? That should discourage purists...

fuckpot
May 20, 2007

Lurking beneath the water
The future Immortal awaits

Team Anasta
How about 'Chill, it's the Chili Thread'

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
"Spicy Bean Stew: A study in Ignorance"

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




bunnielab posted:

"Spicy Bean Stew: A study in Ignorance"

I find it somehow amazing that you think you are right and people who are bothered enough by chilli to set up a chilli appreciation society are wrong. Is it just an ego thing or are you just a moron? I can't decide.

Syenite
Jun 21, 2011
Grimey Drawer
The one true chili recipe (tm) is meat + meat liquid + chili peppers. Anything else is insidious anti-chili.

Jay Carney
Mar 23, 2007

If you do that you will die on the toilet.

Aramoro posted:

I find it somehow amazing that you think you are right and people who are bothered enough by chilli to set up a chilli appreciation society are wrong. Is it just an ego thing or are you just a moron? I can't decide.

He's 100% right, and you're on the wrong side of the pond so you can't really know what chili is.

pr0k
Jan 16, 2001

"Well if it's gonna be
that kind of party..."
I use massive amounts of cumin my chili.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Halalelujah posted:

He's 100% right, and you're on the wrong side of the pond so you can't really know what chili is.

But the Chili appreciation society is Texan. As is every winner of their cook off though.

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

Texans are dumb.

Jay Carney
Mar 23, 2007

If you do that you will die on the toilet.

Aramoro posted:

But the Chili appreciation society is Texan. As is every winner of their cook off though.

Tex-Mex, I know you don't know a lot about Mexicans being where you are from, but their influence is incredibly important when creating a strong chili foundation.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Casu Marzu posted:

Texans are dumb.

I think we can all agree Texans are dumb and to be fair the recipes on their site look fairly horrible. But something being bad Chili doesn't stop it being Chili.

slinkimalinki
Jan 17, 2010
If it weren't for the chili-passion expressed in this thread, I'd still be making mince 'n' beans.

tuckfard
Dec 9, 2003

Just chillin
As in interruption to the 8th "real chili" convo, I have a chili cookoff coming up in two weekends. Got 3rd last year, and 3rd the time I participated before (2 or 3 years before last). Rather than recipes, I'm looking more for your witty/punny chili team names and themes! Last year we were Chili Chili Bang Bang as a last minute name. Time before that we had a Pokemon themed team and made Charizard Chili which was super lame but hey we still got 3rd.

If you want to give chili cookoff advice that is cool too. We can prep and season the night before but no cooking. 4 hours cooking time. There is a judges pick and a peoples choice. Our recipe last year was something like this:

Stew meat
ground beef
some different chili powders (Central Market has some decent ground you can buy)
chopped chilis (various, including Hatch)
bell peppers
habanero
ghost chili
onion, garlic
cumin
this milk stout beer
some chocolate
brown sugar maybe
chicken stock or something

It was good, nice and chunky. Since then my recipe has really evolved and I don't use bell peppers much anymore (unless its specifically for my wife) and ground beef not as much. I made some "traditional" chili last, with just stew meat and pork shoulder (close to one of the recipes in this thread) and it was good, but man did it cook down. It was awesome. Not sure if I can pull that off in 4 hours though.

We're currently leaning towards a similar recipe with improvements. Will probably ditch bells for chilis, possible ditch the ground meat, maybe add bacon. Minor tweaks like that.

Excited for chili season.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

slinkimalinki posted:

If it weren't for the chili-passion expressed in this thread, I'd still be making mince 'n' beans.

I'm still doing it, I've tried both ways and I like both from time to time. I have a hard time seeing why the stew meat version is so much better, it's just different.

I use beans in both is great though, I loving love beans and nobody can stop me!

BlueGrot
Jun 26, 2010

Remember that your chili is not for lactose intolerant if it's got a milk stout in it, those are sweetened with lactose.

pr0k
Jan 16, 2001

"Well if it's gonna be
that kind of party..."
If you're intolerant creamy things my chili is probably not for you.

@Tuckfard:

I like your thinking but I worry a bit about your nontraditional additions. I find that *one* of those things is good. More than one and you just muddy the flavor of the meat. Ingredients like that are: chocolatey beer, wine, chocolate, molasses, coffee, warm spices like cinnamon, etc.

That's just my opinion though.

icehewk
Jul 7, 2003

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!
Just made chili with moritas, anchos, puyas, New Mexican chilis, molasses, beer (homebrewed ESB!), paprika, pinto beans, some weak coffee, bacon and about four pounds of ground venison. Feels good. Go Pack, Go!


edit: gently caress, everyone go get a big bag of moritas at your local mercado.

icehewk fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Sep 14, 2012

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



Moritas are the loving poo poo.

mindphlux
Jan 8, 2004

by R. Guyovich
this chili thread has gone to poo poo. it's now officially on my to-do list, I'm making a new one. before the end of the year. proper, full fledged. lots of effort.

pr0k
Jan 16, 2001

"Well if it's gonna be
that kind of party..."
You have my pork sword.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

mindphlux posted:

this chili thread has gone to poo poo. it's now officially on my to-do list, I'm making a new one. before the end of the year. proper, full fledged. lots of effort.

Make sure you soak the beans first.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

mindphlux posted:

this chili thread has gone to poo poo. it's now officially on my to-do list, I'm making a new one. before the end of the year. proper, full fledged. lots of effort.

Maybe there could be a Constitution so chili conservatives can point to liberal recipes and say, 'That's not what the founders had in mind! :argh:'

pr0k
Jan 16, 2001

"Well if it's gonna be
that kind of party..."
Then there would also need to be a chili bible written by vegetarians that says the exact same thing as the constitution on one page, the opposite on the next, and everyone can selectively quote it at one another.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

Aramoro posted:

I find it somehow amazing that you think you are right and people who are bothered enough by chilli to set up a chilli appreciation society are wrong. Is it just an ego thing or are you just a moron? I can't decide.

Especially an INTERNATIONAL society.

Heres Hank
Oct 20, 2008

branedotorg posted:

Especially an INTERNATIONAL society.

I don't get it. Chili is not an international dish. I don't give a gently caress what Canadians tell me about how to make tacos or what a Japanese dude says about making spaghetti.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Comic
Feb 24, 2008

Mad Comic Stylings

Heres Hank posted:

I don't get it. Chili is not an international dish. I don't give a gently caress what Canadians tell me about how to make tacos or what a Japanese dude says about making spaghetti.

So Americans have no say about almost nothing, relatively.

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bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Comic posted:

So Americans have no say about almost nothing, relatively.

Except for chili.

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