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If this is too much let me know and I'll delete it, but I really wanted to post the entire fight. From West Coast Avengers #5: The West Coast Avengers try (and possibly succeed) to kill Werewolf By Night. Enjoy!       Things I love about this: 1) Iron Man goes out like a chump. 2) Hawkeye in unquestionably trying to kill him here. First with a Silver Arrow and then when he sets him on fire. 3) Multiple people try to set him on fire. 4) Mockingbird is an utter badass. 5) Jack Russel's expression on the first page and the fact that someone thought him regressing to a dogs base instincts (i.e. trying to hump Tigra at all costs) was ever a good idea. 6) "SKREEEECH! I hate this!" 7) The fact that there's a Suffragette City joke for no reason and that it relies on onomatopoeia, so if you were actually there it would make no sense at all. 8) Werewolf by Night looks very much dead in the last panel.
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I think the best part you didn't mention is the douchebag in the last panel insisting that Hulk and Thor aren't real people. Check your non-divine un-mutated privilege, dude.
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Oct 4, 2012 18:44
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Mr. Maltose posted:I think the best part you didn't mention is the douchebag in the last panel insisting that Hulk and Thor aren't real people. Check your non-divine un-mutated privilege, dude. Yeah, that's also good. Almost as good as this panel from WCA #3:  Or this one from the same issue:  I'm not sure which one I like better, but a running theme seems to be treating people as less than people for almost no loving reason. Here's a fun game for that first panel: Try to figure out which "Black Guy" he's talking about. Luke Cage was in New York at the time. Black Panther was in Wakanda. Ready? Go!
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Oct 4, 2012 18:52
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MelvinTheJerk posted:1) Iron Man goes out like a chump. This is almost a running joke in Avengers comics at least into the early '90s. You could probably put together a megapost of "Iron Man gets beaten way too easily".
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Oct 4, 2012 19:03
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MelvinTheJerk posted:
9) RANCH!
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Oct 4, 2012 19:09
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His name is loving Jack Russell? That causes me physical pain.
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Oct 4, 2012 19:52
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Wendell posted:His name is loving Jack Russell? That causes me physical pain. You're not the first.
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Oct 4, 2012 19:54
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MelvinTheJerk posted:2) Hawkeye in unquestionably trying to kill him here. First with a Silver Arrow and then when he sets him on fire. If there's one thing I've learned reading A vs X and a lot of Hawkeye's other appearances, it's that he is like, the first Avenger to go for a killshot. He probably reaches into his quiver, realizes he's running low, and is like "Welp, gotta end this quick before I look real useless..."
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Oct 4, 2012 19:56
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TwoPair posted:If there's one thing I've learned reading A vs X and a lot of Hawkeye's other appearances, it's that he is like, the first Avenger to go for a killshot. He probably reaches into his quiver, realizes he's running low, and is like "Welp, gotta end this quick before I look real useless..." Think about his fight with Werewolf by Night. He tried arguably the only two things that he could have used to stop him: A silver arrow through the heart and then he set him on fire. If the fight went any longer and it was just up to him, he would have likely been hosed. So yeah, Hawkeye is very much a "It was him or me" type of character.
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Oct 4, 2012 20:01
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MelvinTheJerk posted:Here's a fun game for that first panel: Try to figure out which "Black Guy" he's talking about. Luke Cage was in New York at the time. Black Panther was in Wakanda. Ready? Go! Wasn't a superhero. Just the city's resident black guy.
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Oct 4, 2012 20:09
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TwoPair posted:If there's one thing I've learned reading A vs X and a lot of Hawkeye's other appearances, it's that he is like, the first Avenger to go for a killshot. He probably reaches into his quiver, realizes he's running low, and is like "Welp, gotta end this quick before I look real useless..." He straight up paralyzed a guy from the neck down in the second issue of the new series. His partner blinded someone by shooting their eyes out with arrows. Not subtle at all. Which makes me question the "no killing" rule he has in Secret Avengers, where he teams up with Venom and Valkyrie. I guess he didn't technically kill anyone in his series. Uthor fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Oct 4, 2012 |
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Oct 4, 2012 20:11
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prefect posted:This is almost a running joke in Avengers comics at least into the early '90s. You could probably put together a megapost of "Iron Man gets beaten way too easily". Well in WCA it makes sense as he is not Tony but Jim Rhodes
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Oct 4, 2012 20:11
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bobkatt013 posted:Well in WCA it makes sense as he is not Tony but Jim Rhodes Nope, that's Tony Stark. Rhodey never wore the "Silver Centurion" armor. This was the armor that was the first Tony had worn since giving the job to Rhodey[1] -- he used it in Iron Man #200 to beat Obadiah Stane[2]. And he was pretending to not be Tony Stark at the beginning of WCA, although that didn't last too long.  [1] Not technically the first since giving the job to Rhodey. He had to put on an old set briefly to help Rhodey, who was having mental problems as a side effect of wearing the suit. [2] Iron Man #200 wasn't published until after West Coast Avengers got started, but it's one of those "the events in this issue occur before West Coast Avengers #1" situations. prefect fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Oct 4, 2012 |
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Oct 4, 2012 20:13
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prefect posted:Nope, that's Tony Stark. Never mind just remembered that was only in the miniseries bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Oct 4, 2012 |
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Oct 4, 2012 20:16
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bobkatt013 posted:Never mind just remembered that was only in the miniseries Rhodey was more badass and competent as Iron Man in the mini series than Tony was for the first chunk of WCA.
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Oct 4, 2012 20:57
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MelvinTheJerk posted:7) The fact that there's a Suffragette City joke for no reason and that it relies on onomatopoeia, so if you were actually there it would make no sense at all. I spent five minutes looking for the wrong lyrics 
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Oct 4, 2012 21:07
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Phy posted:I spent five minutes looking for the wrong lyrics But you found it and that's the important thing!
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Oct 4, 2012 21:17
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Codependent Poster posted:The panel from that Avengers Academy issue with Quicksilver and Warbird having just been tased is good too. Also, "Don't tase me, Jo!" Also, "It's official. This is the greatest day of my life." (The whole issue was just awesome.  )
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Oct 4, 2012 21:31
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MelvinTheJerk posted:Here's a fun game for that first panel: Try to figure out which "Black Guy" he's talking about. Luke Cage was in New York at the time. Black Panther was in Wakanda. Ready? Go! Bill Foster, as Black Goliath? He hung out in LA back around the Champions era. ...I don't have a great panel handy so I'll go with how to win an insult war.  (Flaming Carrot #19) V---"And today he has accepted his destiny." Yeah, cancer, caused by the guy he's confronting! delfin fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Oct 4, 2012 |
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Oct 4, 2012 21:38
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MelvinTheJerk posted:Here's a fun game for that first panel: Try to figure out which "Black Guy" he's talking about. How could you guys forget Bill Foster? The man died a hero!  Black Goliath #1 Edit: Bonus, since delfin beat me to it while I was looking for a Black Goliath image that mentioned LA. Bill Foster beating up a retarded manchild (Nuklo) so he can feel better about himself:  Marvel Two-In-One #55 Servoret fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Oct 4, 2012 |
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Oct 4, 2012 21:48
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Black Goliath was out of Los Angeles by the time West Coast Avengers #3 came out. Black Goliath first shows up with Luke Cage. Then he gets his own series in 1976. At the end of the series he's lost his powers and nearly died. He has a weird one off appearence in a Marvel Two in One is 1979, but it just seems like someone forgot he didn't have any powers. West Coast Avengers #3 is out 8 years later. Black Goliath is someone no one has thought about in a long time. In the West Coast Avengers annual #3, which came out in 1988, Black Goliath has a story line where he gets his powers back. So it can't be Black Goliath. Any other guesses?
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Oct 4, 2012 22:14
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Unfit For Space posted:How could you guys forget Bill Foster? The man died a hero!  http://mightygodking.com/index.php/i-dont-need-your-civil-war/ (issue 4, page 17)
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Oct 4, 2012 22:22
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Why can't it be Black Goliath? His career wasn't eight years before that in Marvel time, and I really doubt he held a press conference when he retired. Steve Englehart was out of comics for about that time interval, so maybe he just didn't realize the character was inactive before he wrote the annual.
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Oct 4, 2012 23:42
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Wendell posted:His name is loving Jack Russell? That causes me physical pain.
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Oct 5, 2012 00:27
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Breetai posted:Avengers Acadamy 38. Is that the robot Ultron made, Jocasta? Good lord does Marvel never abandon a character? I remember that issue from around the time Star Wars came out. Seeing Black Goliath reminded me of one of the worse, Dragon Man style villains: Stilt Man!  Excuse me while I rip off your helmet and punch you in the face!
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Oct 5, 2012 00:40
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MelvinTheJerk posted:If this is too much let me know and I'll delete it, but I really wanted to post the entire fight. So is there a reason why Werewolf-by-night looks like some kind of red Krampus here instead of anything resembling a werewolf?
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Oct 5, 2012 02:28
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MelvinTheJerk posted:If this is too much let me know and I'll delete it, but I really wanted to post the entire fight. The thing I love about this is how Wonder Man practically solos the fight. (Okay, yes, the others get their licks in, but it's Wonder Man who basks in the limelight at the end.) As one of the five people in the world who actually liked Wonder Man, that means something to me. 
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Oct 5, 2012 02:44
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MelvinTheJerk posted:Black Goliath was out of Los Angeles by the time West Coast Avengers #3 came out. Was it Battlestar? I bet it was. EDIT: Comedy Answer - Brother Voodoo.
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Oct 5, 2012 03:08
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Dick Trauma posted:Is that the robot Ultron made, Jocasta? Good lord does Marvel never abandon a character? I remember that issue from around the time Star Wars came out. Hooo boy, sounds like you missed the every Jocasta development since then. It's hilariously messy. In Greek myth Jocasta was Oedipus's mother/wife, and robo-Jocasta does a good job of living up to that name. Created by Ultron, she's Hank Pym's sorta-granddaugter, and animated by the brain waves of Hank Pym's (currently MIA) wife. Jocasta is currently married to Ultron and in a relationship with Hank Pym via a remote-controlled body. 
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Oct 5, 2012 03:12
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No, Pym's dating Tigra now. He WAS boinking his robo-granddaughter...
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Oct 5, 2012 03:32
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Oh yeah, I forgot that Pym and Tigra have a son now. Sort of.
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Oct 5, 2012 03:34
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Mr. Maltose posted:Was it Battlestar? I bet it was. I've actually thought about it a bit, and the only two conclusions I can come up with (Due to the surprising lack of black heroes in Los Angeles during this time) is: 1) He just saw a black guy, loved the novelty of it, and assumed he was a super hero. 2) It was Shroud.  There he is perving on Jessica Drew. So he's this blind guy who worked with Spider-Woman while she was in Los Angeles as a Private Investigator. He was also in the WCA Mini. His gimmick? He was a hero pretending to be a crime boss to get in close with the underworld. Until, of course, The West Coast Avengers ruined it and blew his cover. So there you go. A black guy, or at least a guy whose costume is head to toe the color black. OR! 3) That dude in the car is just a straight up racist.
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Oct 5, 2012 03:53
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I'm kind of surprised that this cover was allowed in 1976! Action Comics #466 Superman's forgotten power: turning secret identity emergencies into DC house ads! Action Comics #477  Oh no! Lex Luthor appears to have de-aged Flash and Batman... But how to be really sure it's them? Action Comics #465  They have a what lighthouse?  Action Comics #464
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Oct 5, 2012 05:15
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Good job Superman, you've blinded everyone in the room.
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Oct 5, 2012 05:18
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techknight posted:I'm kind of surprised that this cover was allowed in 1976! Action Comics #466
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Oct 5, 2012 05:32
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MelvinTheJerk posted:I've actually thought about it a bit, and the only two conclusions I can come up with (Due to the surprising lack of black heroes in Los Angeles during this time) is: I like that he was perving on the first Spider-woman and later hooked up with the second one. Like it's his thing.
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Oct 5, 2012 05:45
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techknight posted:
I really like to imagine Superman's lighthouse-head spinning 360-degrees while blinding white light pours from his eyes.
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Oct 5, 2012 06:54
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FredMSloniker posted:The thing I love about this is how Wonder Man practically solos the fight. (Okay, yes, the others get their licks in, but it's Wonder Man who basks in the limelight at the end.) As one of the five people in the world who actually liked Wonder Man, that means something to me. Just out of interest, would this have been before or after the Jim Shooter run on Avengers where Wonder Man was perpetually crippled by his self-doubt and fear of dying (again)?
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Oct 5, 2012 11:06
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Metal Loaf posted:Just out of interest, would this have been before or after the Jim Shooter run on Avengers where Wonder Man was perpetually crippled by his self-doubt and fear of dying (again)? This is definitely in the near vicinity of that. Then Simon gets over his self-doubt and becomes an enormous rear end in a top hat with a horrific costume.  (This picture actually makes it look not-so-bad. I never cared for the art in West Coast Avengers; it all looked unpleasant to me.)
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Oct 5, 2012 13:04
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prefect posted:This is definitely in the near vicinity of that. Then Simon gets over his self-doubt and becomes an enormous rear end in a top hat with a horrific costume. I don't have the comic anymore, but there was some funny stuff in that arc: 1) Wonder man starts trying to one up iron man all the time as a result of his increased confidence. 2) The two of them race into space chasing a fleeing villain. 3) Wonder man's jets fail in orbit (because they are jets, Iron Man has rockets). 4) Wonder man plummets to earth, and then gets mad at Iron Man for coming back to save him. 5) Next issue, Wonder man gets a better costume and learns humility after getting hurt in a one on one with abomination.
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