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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Highspeeddub posted:

Turkey has been shelling Syria for 10 days and Syria insists they want to negotiate a truce, yet they keep lobbing artillery into Turkey accidentally.

But don't you see? It's totally Turkey's fault! Assad shouldn't be kept from butchering his own citizens just because of dumb borders and poo poo!

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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

But don't you see? It's totally Turkey's fault! Assad shouldn't be kept from butchering his own citizens just because of dumb borders and poo poo!

Yeah. Nobody asked Assad about whether or not Turkey would be declared a safe zone.

MothraAttack
Apr 28, 2008
And a series of strong explosions hits Damascus. Maybe The47th is right again.

edit: Live feed showing huge smoke plume, constant shelling
http://bambuser.com/v/3070265

az
Dec 2, 2005

BM or anyone else that knows, tell me why there are so many pictures and videos of Syrians (especially children) holding UXO? Don't they know they're still really dangerous? I don't understand why you'd expose your children like that.

Xandu
Feb 19, 2006


It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am.
They don't necessarily know it's still dangerous. After all, it didn't explode the first time.

And they're often times holding it up to get pictures/videos of it to help spread.

Xandu
Feb 19, 2006


It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am.
Big explosions and clashes in Sana'a right now around the 1st Armored Division camp.

edit: or just an arms depot exploded and there were no clashes. Local press is very unreliable.

Xandu fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Oct 18, 2012

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

They also think kids with UXO will get them more attention, which is also why they've started filming cats and birds effected by the conflict as well. They film whatever they think will get their plight the most attention.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
Interesting article from the New York Times about the war in Syria creeping into Damascus.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Some pro-Assad moron thinks he's found a video of Caro, but it clearly isn't him, good piece of idiocy, American Sniper from Libya to Aleppo, Syria?.

Hefty Leftist
Jun 26, 2011

"You know how vodka or whiskey are distilled multiple times to taste good? It's the same with shit. After being digested for the third time shit starts to taste reeeeeeaaaally yummy."


Brown Moses posted:

They also think kids with UXO will get them more attention, which is also why they've started filming cats and birds effected by the conflict as well. They film whatever they think will get their plight the most attention.

Why do you think much of the population in the West seems to pay no attention to Syria? At least you have the UN paying attention, ineffective as that's proven to be, but if you went and asked some regular person on the street about what's happened in the Middle East over the past 2 years, they wouldn't have an idea. Are all of these changes really that uninteresting? :smith:

Tardigrade
Jul 13, 2012

Half arthropod, half marshmallow, all cute.

ThePutty posted:

Why do you think much of the population in the West seems to pay no attention to Syria? At least you have the UN paying attention, ineffective as that's proven to be, but if you went and asked some regular person on the street about what's happened in the Middle East over the past 2 years, they wouldn't have an idea. Are all of these changes really that uninteresting? :smith:

It's just those crazy Arabs killing each other, who gives a gently caress.

E: yes, I was being sarcastic, in case it wasn't obvious. It's hard to get any public interest when the US isn't directly involved. :smith:

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
The average American, along with the major networks, has the attention span of a gnat. "Arab spring? Isn't it October?" That, and the average American is trying to pay off a mortgage worth more than their house, save for their kid's college bill, and hold on to a job while the unemployment rate is ~8%.

Oh yeah, and there's an election to keep us from nuking Iran, among other things.

Sadly, a conflict where even the good guys are starting to commit atrocities is going to get put on the back burner.

az jan jananam
Sep 6, 2011
HI, I'M HARDCORE SAX HERE TO DROP A NICE JUICY TURD OF A POST FROM UP ON HIGH

ThePutty posted:

Why do you think much of the population in the West seems to pay no attention to Syria? At least you have the UN paying attention, ineffective as that's proven to be, but if you went and asked some regular person on the street about what's happened in the Middle East over the past 2 years, they wouldn't have an idea. Are all of these changes really that uninteresting? :smith:

It's kind of unfair to expect the general populace to know the ins and outs of what is going on in Syria, it is confusing for most "analysts". People probably vaguely know there is a revolution there, what more should they know? Syria has been the single most important international issue this year and diplomatic attention has been almost singularly focused towards it, its not like the personal engagement of the average person with the issue will sway things.

Golshifteh Farahani had some interesting things to say about why he French are so interested in her exile from Iran and the Syria situation-

http://m.guardiannews.com/film/2012/sep/06/golshifteh-farahani-exile-iran-like-death?cat=film&type=article
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They even went to a wedding of nomads in the centre of Iran. Everyone from all the generations came to them and held their hands and said: 'Don't be sad. We love Golshifteh.' My mother started crying. That is the beauty of Iran, and that is why I am so proud of being an Iranian, especially the women."

But Farahani doesn't want to be a "Joan of Arc, an actress 'with a story', an exotic victim of persecution. Exile is like death. You cannot understand it until it happens to you. The whole world wants to see you as a victim and they push you to be even more a victim because they see you miserable and they feel good. That is why French people are so obsessed with causes like Syria. It is a kind of pornography to make them feel better about being themselves, but they don't give a poo poo. They say, 'Come, we will look after you,' and then they gently caress you up and don't give you papers. I am just an actor, and I want to work.


az jan jananam fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Oct 18, 2012

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

ThePutty posted:

Why do you think much of the population in the West seems to pay no attention to Syria? At least you have the UN paying attention, ineffective as that's proven to be, but if you went and asked some regular person on the street about what's happened in the Middle East over the past 2 years, they wouldn't have an idea. Are all of these changes really that uninteresting? :smith:

There are two front page articles in the NY Times about Syria today, and I regularly hear news stories about it on NPR, so I wouldn't say that it's being ignored by the media. From a policy standpoint, there really isn't a lot that we can do other than to make the diplomatic rounds and send food and fuel to refugees. The last time we got involved in a conflict like this, we ended up with a Taliban-controlled Afghanistan. The last-last time, over 200 marines were killed by a bomb in Beirut.

Friendly Factory
Apr 19, 2007

I can't stand the wailing of women

MothraAttack posted:

Human Rights Watch has released a brief video on the apparent execution of dozens of Gaddafi's men in Sirte at the hands of mostly Misrata-based militia after their capture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tBy98xKeXw&feature=youtu.be

The... comments... :stare:

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

I've been asked talk to NPR's Morning Edition about weapons in Syria, I don't know much about it, is it well known in the US?

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Brown Moses posted:

I've been asked talk to NPR's Morning Edition about weapons in Syria, I don't know much about it, is it well known in the US?

I think it's some sort of morning shock-jock show. Expect a soundboard full of animal noises and a highstrung guy who does a lot of stimulants to be up that early every day.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Brown Moses posted:

I've been asked talk to NPR's Morning Edition about weapons in Syria, I don't know much about it, is it well known in the US?

Wow, that's really awesome. Congratulations.

VVV I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic with the question or not, yeah. It's about as big as radio news gets in the US.

Killer robot fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Oct 18, 2012

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Killer robot posted:

Wow, that's really awesome. Congratulations.

I just looked it up on Wikipedia, hoping I won't sound like a twat on it now.

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



Brown Moses posted:

I've been asked talk to NPR's Morning Edition about weapons in Syria, I don't know much about it, is it well known in the US?

Morning Edition is really well-respected, and is on in the Bay Area from 3 a.m. to 9 a.m., which is to say right during most of the morning commute. It's definitely a popular public radio program.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Brown Moses posted:

I've been asked talk to NPR's Morning Edition about weapons in Syria, I don't know much about it, is it well known in the US?

NPR is pretty stellar in their reporting (compared to the commercial news outlets). Any idea of when the segment would air?

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Brown Moses posted:

I just looked it up on Wikipedia, hoping I won't sound like a twat on it now.

You won't. You have nothing to 'prove' as they are not trying to push an agenda. NPR listeners are actually interested in getting facts and information. Make sure you let the thread known when you are on so we can all listen!

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Brown Moses posted:

I've been asked talk to NPR's Morning Edition about weapons in Syria, I don't know much about it, is it well known in the US?

Yes. Very. It's probably one of the most listened to radio news shows in the US. Congrats on hitting the big time.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

There's reports on Twitter that the Saudi border guard picked up 14 Iranian Revolutionary Guards off the coast of Bahrain, rumours they were attempt to sabotage something, unclear what though. Apparently they were armed and had communications equipment.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Brown Moses posted:

I've been asked talk to NPR's Morning Edition about weapons in Syria, I don't know much about it, is it well known in the US?

You've made it. Congratulations again.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Hopefully this won't be another BBC Radio style incident where I get to sit in a room for an hour waiting for something to happen.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Brown Moses posted:

Hopefully this won't be another BBC Radio style incident where I get to sit in a room for an hour waiting for something to happen.

Even if you only get five minutes of time, Morning Edition is the third-highest rated radio show in the US and reaches 12 million listeners weekly. You'll have a lot of people listening to what you have to say. It'll also be a major feather in your cap for the interview at the BBC.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Sounds like it'll be a pre-recorded interview, they said they'd call me 9:30 tomorrow morning, so I guess that would be after the show?

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Brown Moses posted:

Sounds like it'll be a pre-recorded interview, they said they'd call me 9:30 tomorrow morning, so I guess that would be after the show?

9:30 England time? That would be 4:30 AM Eastern, before the show. It's a two-hour show that gets repeated in most markets to run from 6AM to 10AM.

Ed: So yeah, it'll be a taped segment that gets spliced into a block. It'll probably get pre-empted in most areas for pledge drives anyway.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Brown Moses posted:

Sounds like it'll be a pre-recorded interview, they said they'd call me 9:30 tomorrow morning, so I guess that would be after the show?

Oh no. The show is broadcast from 9am-12noon in my part of the US. Although it probably will be pre-recorded so that they can properly fit it into their show. NPR has been running a lot of Syria-related stories recently, so it's no surprise that they'd want some reportage on Assad's use of cluster bombs. Interest in Syria is ramping up over here, Assad's bombing campaign reached the front page of the NY Times today and a US presidential debate focusing on foreign policy is scheduled for next Monday.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

He says about 2pm my time, it's NPR DC, so I guess it's 9:30 in that time zone.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
And will this be tomorrow?

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Does the NPR put up their shows online so the Atlantically Challenged can listen to it later?

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Crasscrab posted:

And will this be tomorrow?

Yeah, he didn't mention if it was live or not.

Few interesting videos from Syria, here's a video which I think shows an unexploded bomblet going off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im4xFouzX58

These are IRAMs, improvised rocket assisted munitions, commonly used by Hezbollah and Iranian backed militias in Iraq

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BzTAUoHoAc

And here's some Metis AT weapons in the hands of the opposition, something that seems to be an increasingly common sight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyR68nhMCM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbUXUXp406k

And a couple videos of Type-63 launchers, another increasingly common sight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5-stN8jAYk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77fckX7sl_w

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



spankmeister posted:

Does the NPR put up their shows online so the Atlantically Challenged can listen to it later?

Yes they do. That's probably how I'll listen to the segment, since I can't remember the last time I was awake/on the road during Morning Edition.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Morning edition tends to air snippets every hour and repeat the same ones so people just tuning in can hear, they'll also often repeat stuff from the morning on All Things Considered (think the afternoon drive time version of Morning Edition) assuming its still relevant/unchanged, which this will be. So people who don't hear you in the morning may well during the evening rush!

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

:3: I will get to hear you then.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Here's CJ Chivers' post on the IRAMs and Barrel Bombs being used by the Syrian armed forces, well worth a read, Syrian Forces’ Improvised Arms: Desperate Measures, or Deliberate Aid?.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

User 84831 posted:

I think it's some sort of morning shock-jock show. Expect a soundboard full of animal noises and a highstrung guy who does a lot of stimulants to be up that early every day.

You may know it by its' former name, Boomer and The Noodge's Morning Zoo

But seriously, the highlight of my hotel career thus far has been chatting with Morning Edition's Jean Cochran (who confirmed my assessment of Neal Conan as "a dreamboat") :allears:

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Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret
Indeed, Morning Edition is as close as you can come to BBC in America. Great, solid, fairly in-depth news.

I can't wait to hear you on it.

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