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Splitting washrooms by sex isn't a perfect system, but it works. There are too many variables with transgendered people to make washrooms co-ed. How can you determine if someone has transitioned enough to use the washroom of the opposite sex? If a transman still looks like a woman, it doesn't seem like a good idea to let her use the men's room just because she feels like a man, especially from a safety point of view.
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Frosted Flake posted:Splitting washrooms by sex isn't a perfect system, but it works. There are too many variables with transgendered people to make washrooms co-ed. How can you determine if someone has transitioned enough to use the washroom of the opposite sex? If a transman still looks like a woman, it doesn't seem like a good idea to let her use the men's room just because she feels like a man, especially from a safety point of view. You could just let everybody in.
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Frosted Flake posted:Splitting washrooms by sex isn't a perfect system, but it works. There are too many variables with transgendered people to make washrooms co-ed. How can you determine if someone has transitioned enough to use the washroom of the opposite sex? If a transman still looks like a woman, it doesn't seem like a good idea to let her use the men's room just because she feels like a man, especially from a safety point of view. That's as good an excuse as I'll get to post this:
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 18:29 |
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Don't know why you're so concerned with our genitals anyway. Are you some kind of pervert? Women's toilets are just stalls, last time I checked. There's no way you're gonna know what a woman has in her pants unless you're looking. Which is sexual harassment, I'm sure you're aware. Also, I should point out that the amount of trans-on-cis assaults in toilets is extremely negligible. Don't want to say none, because someone will say "but this happened", but it happens about as much as feminists burn bras, Jews drink blood, Satanists sacrifice children, and people on welfare having kids to get a bigger cheque.
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a false posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOi2wIUCTnA ARE MAIR
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 18:32 |
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I'm sorry that you feel that having different washrooms for the two sexes is a great injustice. Maybe more places will have family/handicapped washrooms in the next few years. Maybe if cognitive behavior therapy was more common, people with gender dysmorphic disorder could get the help they need without worrying about changing society. e: grammar.
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 18:34 |
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I'm glad to hear of your medical expertise, and your dissension from your peers that reparative therapy for trans people doesn't work and that transition is the only effective method of treating gender dysphoria.
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 18:39 |
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a false posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOi2wIUCTnA Why is the chairman (not sure if that's his official title) yelling at some old lady instead of the fat dude from captain planet?
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 18:39 |
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Shut-up! Shut-up! Shut-up about bathrooms! Post pictures: Better times.
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 18:40 |
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Frosted Flake posted:I'm sorry that you feel that having different washrooms for the two sexes is a great injustice. Maybe more places will have family/handicapped washrooms in the next few years. Before you get into a discussion about transgender issues maybe you should say "I think transgender people are mentally ill cis people." That way you can be ignored completely. Christ Sophia by Robert Lentz Harvey Milk of San Francisco, by Robert Lentz
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 18:48 |
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a false posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOi2wIUCTnA President Merkin Muffley! "Let him yell for a minute and blow off his steam and then we'll go on with our meeting."
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 18:52 |
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It's difficult to do anything in German without being able to make some comparison to Hitler.
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 18:54 |
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Ulf posted:
But that first one was a poll result, the second one is a polling card. That's not the same thing at all The state of the british left.
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 18:57 |
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front wing flexing posted:Why is the chairman (not sure if that's his official title) yelling at some old lady instead of the fat dude from captain planet? Because he literally does this is all the time and the council usually just ignores him until he runs out of steam and goes back to sleep, which is what the chairman wants, but the other councillor starts yelling too and oh god Toronto politics...
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 18:58 |
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Frosted Flake posted:I'm sorry that you feel that having different washrooms for the two sexes is a great injustice. Maybe more places will have family/handicapped washrooms in the next few years. Wow, gently caress you, buddy. I'm probably the least knowledgeable person in the world about trans* issues and even I know that gender dysphoria isn't something you just cure with therapy. I suppose you believe in gay conversion treatments, too? Lana (formerly Larry) Wachowski at the premiere of her and her brother's new film.
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 19:12 |
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Noreaus posted:But that first one was a poll result, the second one is a polling card. That's not the same thing at all Splitter! Actual content:
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Daktar posted:Wow, gently caress you, buddy. I'm probably the least knowledgeable person in the world about trans* issues and even I know that gender dysphoria isn't something you just cure with therapy. I suppose you believe in gay conversion treatments, too? She recently gave a big speech, and it sounds like she's pretty happy these days, which is a nice thing. Laura Jane Grace, formerly Tom Gabel.
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 19:16 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Splitting washrooms by sex isn't a perfect system, but it works. There are too many variables with transgendered people to make washrooms co-ed. How can you determine if someone has transitioned enough to use the washroom of the opposite sex? If a transman still looks like a woman, it doesn't seem like a good idea to let her use the men's room just because she feels like a man, especially from a safety point of view. That's some drat fine misgendering you got there Frosted Flake posted:I'm sorry that you feel that having different washrooms for the two sexes is a great injustice. Maybe more places will have family/handicapped washrooms in the next few years. You're right, let me go back to all of the different therapists I've had over the years, surely one of them can make me finally be ok with my boy body. Alternatively, maybe you're just an rear end in a top hat. Also, to go along with the other trans woman pictures, here's CeCe McDonald: CeCe had the bad luck to be with other queer friends one night when they were attacked by a group of white supremacists. During the attack she killed one of the attackers. She is now serving 41 months imprisoned in the all-male Minnesota Correctional Facility - St. Cloud for manslaughter. This is your punishment for being black and trans in America.
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Noreaus posted:But that first one was a poll result, the second one is a polling card. That's not the same thing at all Divided and weak, but its still more than we have in the states. I also called the Democratic party "conservative with a weak resolve to help out people" and got called a socialist. Ramon Emeterio Bentances - Doctor, Surgeon, Father of the Puerto RIcan nation and the poor, and Instigator of "El Grito de Lares" an failed coup against Spain.
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 19:27 |
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prefect posted:She recently gave a big speech, and it sounds like she's pretty happy these days, which is a nice thing. I saw the speech and it was simultaneously happy and sad. And I was gonna post Laura Jane Grace. Luke Anderson, winner of this year's Big Brother, and the second trans person to win Big Brother. Like Nadia Almada eight years ago, he was subject to transphobic jokes in tabloid coverage of the series. Regardless, like Nadia, he endeared himself to the public's heart.
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Noreaus posted:But that first one was a poll result, the second one is a polling card. That's not the same thing at all
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 19:45 |
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What comic is that? I want to read that comic!
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Baronjutter posted:What comic is that? I want to read that comic!
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 20:25 |
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What's wrong with black hitler? I'm pretty sure it's adolf hitler that was the bad one. Here's Tina Fey talking at the inaugural gala for The Center of Reproductive Rights
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 20:34 |
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Ulf posted:I meant purely in terms of layout Isn't that the old Post Office? Back then the owner would have already been the government.
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 20:34 |
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Daktar posted:Wow, gently caress you, buddy. I'm probably the least knowledgeable person in the world about trans* issues and even I know that gender dysphoria isn't something you just cure with therapy. I suppose you believe in gay conversion treatments, too there are trans and then there are trans who wont shut the gently caress up about it, some of whom could really benefit from therapy. I'm not saying this to be snarky, I went through therapy myself for depression and drug addiction and it was the best thing i ever done (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Lord Lambeth posted:What's wrong with black hitler? I'm pretty sure it's adolf hitler that was the bad one. I dunno, I thought he was pretty chill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuTY-PM4q10
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Isn't that the old Post Office? Back then the owner would have already been the government. No, it's not the post office, it's which famously used to have its own zip code.
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 20:38 |
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Lord Lambeth posted:What's wrong with black hitler? I'm pretty sure it's adolf hitler that was the bad one. I ate spaceman paninis with him! massey ferguson posted:there are trans and then there are trans who wont shut the gently caress up about it, some of whom could really benefit from therapy. I'm not saying this to be snarky, I went through therapy myself for depression and drug addiction and it was the best thing i ever done Careful. You're veering close to "feminists would get more victories if they weren't so strident" territory. (I was at a talk a few months ago which touched upon stuff like this while discussing New Atheism's conscious parallels with feminism)
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 20:38 |
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Knockknees posted:No, it's not the post office, it's Okay, the artist just sucks then. I know it's from The Onion and just a joke, but people really need to stop making stupid jokes like that because they just feed the narrative that China owns like all our debt rather than just ~7%.
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massey ferguson posted:there are trans and then there are trans who wont shut the gently caress up about it, some of whom could really benefit from therapy. I'm not saying this to be snarky, I went through therapy myself for depression and drug addiction and it was the best thing i ever done Right, that worked well for women, black people, other minorities
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massey ferguson posted:there are trans and then there are trans who wont shut the gently caress up about it, some of whom could really benefit from therapy. I'm not saying this to be snarky, I went through therapy myself for depression and drug addiction and it was the best thing i ever done In America you need three months therapy before you can be prescribed hormones, so most trans people not only go to therapy but are medically required to if they want to have an endocrinologist prescribe them medication instead of using street hormones. Of course there's a socio-economic aspect where trans people without insurance cannot get this, and the fact that the endocrinologist (unless sympathetic enough to diagnose a general hormone imbalance) isn't covered by insurance even if they have it. But those people would likely go to therapy if they had the ability. Robert Lentz, Oscar Romero Robert Lentz, Salvadoran Martyrs Sorry I just really like Robert Lentz, it's pretty great seeing progressive figures and LGBT subjects done in traditional iconography. The fact that he's a Franciscan brother is also really cool.
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TinTower posted:Careful. You're veering close to "feminists would get more victories if they weren't so strident" territory. (I was at a talk a few months ago which touched upon stuff like this while discussing New Atheism's conscious parallels with feminism) And yes this means i believe in Gay conversion therapy psuedoscience well done to that poster edit: quote:In America you need three months therapy before you can be prescribed hormones, so most trans people not only go to therapy but are medically required to if they want to have an endocrinologist prescribe them medication instead of using street hormones. Of course there's a socio-economic aspect where trans people without insurance cannot get this, and the fact that the endocrinologist (unless sympathetic enough to diagnose a general hormone imbalance) isn't covered by insurance even if they have it. But those people would likely go to therapy if they had the ability. I'm not american so maybe thats why I have a different viewpoint massey ferguson fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Oct 26, 2012 |
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I know it's from The Onion and just a joke, but people really need to stop making stupid jokes like that because they just feed the narrative that China owns like all our debt rather than just ~7%. Haha I was about to say that this is the first halfway competent right-wing photoshop I've ever seen, but no wonder if it's from the Onion. Here's Martin Lindner, vice chairman of the German Free Democratic Party's parliamentary group, with a joint in his mouth... on TV. He took one puff of the, in his own words, 'joint-like construction' but denied inhaling. Once/if my internet connection stops crapping out, I'll see if I can find a video. e: here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_FsVflvmCI I love that he stepped outside the studio for smoking up. What a weird loving stunt, though. Smirr fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Oct 26, 2012 |
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Here's the Youtube video of an inebriated Meatloaf singing to an uncomfortable robot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGis-yf9gBM
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 21:03 |
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massey ferguson posted:This is the last post I'll make about this cos i hate these lovely derails, but do you honestly think that some people with body dysmorphia wouldn't benefit from therapy to make themselves feel more comfortable with their own bodies? Changing your sex if you chose to do so will be the biggest decision in your life (not to mention the most irreversible one) so why not explore every avenue available before making the decision. People who get sex changes have to get a psychologist's referral you ignorant rear end. EDIT: This is also in the UK, I'm pretty sure other countries with socialized medicine. Here are some images from the 2012 Ugandan Pride Parade.
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 21:04 |
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This is a classic false dilemma. Why can't I have toilet paper that is both ultra strong and ultra soft?
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# ? Oct 26, 2012 21:07 |
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Armyman25 posted:I dunno, I thought [Black Hitler] was pretty chill. Perfect excuse: The Black Gestapo trailer TinTower posted:Careful. You're veering close to "feminists would get more victories if they weren't so strident" territory. (I was at a talk a few months ago which touched upon stuff like this while discussing New Atheism's conscious parallels with feminism) What does this mean? Because if by 'strident' we mean things like a blubbering, drunken Hitchens abusing religious people for their irrational stupidity (why else wouldn't they support wide-scale invasion of the Middle East?) then it's pretty hard for me to play this 'oh, a tone argument! Just like we righteous social justice types have always been shut down with!'
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Pththya-lyi posted:
What if I want neither? Charmin leaves fibers down there. Me no likey. I'm a Scott Tissue Voter!
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prefect posted:She recently gave a big speech, and it sounds like she's pretty happy these days, which is a nice thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHHycz7T_c
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