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ubergnu posted:I just finished Isolation, and I must say it's an excellent movie for anyone wanting or studying to be a veterinarian. I'll be recommending it as a romantic drama in a rural setting to a couple of people I know. When this premiered a few years ago at the Toronto Film Festival I did this and ended up with a lapful of my companion's vomit, so fair warning.
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I had some time to kill this afternoon so I ended up going to see Silent Hill anyway even though I said I was going to wait. It was like half completely loving stupid and half actually creepy and unsettling. I didn't like it nearly as much as the first one, but it wasn't all bad like some of you guys said it was. Saw it in 2D and didn't feel like I missed much. There were some scenes with poo poo gettin hurled at the camera that were very obviously designed for 3D, but I didn't enjoy it to pay the extra like $3.50 to see it in 3D and feel like I got my money's worth.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Saw it in 2D and didn't feel like I missed much. There were some scenes with poo poo gettin hurled at the camera that were very obviously designed for 3D, but I didn't enjoy it to pay the extra like $3.50 to see it in 3D and feel like I got my money's worth. I'd sure love to know why Pyramid Head prevented Heather from getting killed by
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Vile is one of the dumbest, most reprehensible movies I've ever seen. The movie straight-up contrasts scenes of two men broing out after one is tortured and two women bawling, one with enormous cleavage and the other admitting she's pregnant. The black guy slaps a straw feminist caricature unconscious and it's supposed to be "cool." Don't watch Vile e: I actually kinda want to hear Danger or SMG's thoughts on this abomination. SEX HAVER 40000 fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Oct 27, 2012 |
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Coming as a pretty huge fan of the first Silent Hill movie I have to say that the sequel is pretty wrongheaded on most counts. The biggest flaw of the first movie, in what is generally a widely shared opinion, is the leaden exposition dump before the finale and the sequel takes that and just loads the entire movie with tons and tons of useless exposition. And not only is there a lot of it, none of it is good or interesting. It's also very clumsy in terms of handling the transition from the first movie to the second. But the biggest crime of all is that everything is sped up and jumpy. Jump scares, fast creatures, it's all the things that could have gone wrong in the first movie adaptation that they wisely avoided. Instead of building tension to a crescendo, it just starts at high speed and slows down with no sense of proper pacing or even character relationships. One character just had someone get de-fingered in front of her and a few minutes later she's flirting and laughing. And then there's a jump scare to a pop-tart. There are a handful of things that were fairly well done in the movie, like dress and makeup making the main character look like she walked straight out of a PlayStation 1/2 era video game. And there were a few additions to the stylistic view of tetanus version of Silent Hill which were very icky to even look at. But so much else was just not good. Even the potentially interesting new mannequin creature design lost credit because it moved too fast. Their finale was a serious non-finale and when the movie is over, it just sort of ends without making any sense for what exactly happened or changed. Even the size and scale of the finale seems seriously downscale and forgettable. If someone told me it was a reshoot I'd completely believe them. I was also pleased that they got involvement from the first film's cast for things, which helped make it feel more like a sequel even if the script failed on that front. But dear god, Carrie Anne Moss can't hold a candle to Alice Krige and her makeup was terrible on top of this. And somehow they recast Pyramid Head into a good guy. What the loving gently caress? Saw it in 3D. It had a balance of well conceived 3D shots and awful and obnoxious "stick things in your face" amateur moves. Edit: I'm kind of sad. I had a clue it was going to be poor when I saw a recent trailer but I still wanted to see it despite that. Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Oct 27, 2012 |
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SEX HAVER 40000 posted:Vile is one of the dumbest, most reprehensible movies I've ever seen. The movie straight-up contrasts scenes of two men broing out after one is tortured and two women bawling, one with enormous cleavage and the other admitting she's pregnant. The black guy slaps a straw feminist caricature unconscious and it's supposed to be "cool." Don't watch Vile I literally just saw this trailer and thought 'wow, there is basically no way this can be good'. Sounds like it's managed too beer even worse than those expectations.
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lizardman posted:I didn't realize this until I saw it on Blu Ray but the "dialing 911 with the computer" scene is actually some kind of TTDY text-to-speach program thing for deaf people. Of course it's still odd because they never mention why Sidney has this (I guess she has a deaf friend we never get to see or hear about) or why we need to watch it in HD to even know what the hell it is, but I don't think it was meant to be a "look at this amazing modern technology" moment That is really odd.
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Gonz posted:I'd sure love to know why Pyramid Head prevented Heather from getting killed by I have spent too many hours and dollars playing and thinking about Silent Hill. It has (had) the potential to be the pinnacle of surreal horror. The visuals of the first one were gently caress-off gorgeous. Sean god-damned Bean as Harry... that's GENIUS casting. And then... we get the first movie. Christ. I'm dreading this sequel.
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lizardman posted:I didn't realize this until I saw it on Blu Ray but the "dialing 911 with the computer" scene is actually some kind of TTDY text-to-speach program thing for deaf people. Of course it's still odd because they never mention why Sidney has this (I guess she has a deaf friend we never get to see or hear about) or why we need to watch it in HD to even know what the hell it is, but I don't think it was meant to be a "look at this amazing modern technology" moment Was her dead mom supposed to be deaf or something, maybe? I can't remember, it's been a while since I saw any of the Scream movies.
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Definitely worth watching. It is amazing in a totally incomprehensible kind of way.
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Ape Agitator posted:There are a handful of things that were fairly well done in the movie, like dress and makeup making the main character look like she walked straight out of a PlayStation 1/2 era video game. And there were a few additions to the stylistic view of tetanus version of Silent Hill which were very icky to even look at. Yeah, I forgot to say this in my post. From right after Heather/Sharon arrives at Silent Hill and for the next like 10 or 15 minutes of the movie at least, it felt like you were watching the movie version of a survival horror video game, which was pretty cool. A lot of the creatures and environments looked really grotesque, which I loved.
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I'm ten minutes into Detention and what the gently caress? I can't tell if I hate this or I'm gonna end up loving it.
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weekly font posted:I'm ten minutes into Detention and what the gently caress? I can't tell if I hate this or I'm gonna end up loving it. I saw the whole thing and I still don't know if I hated it or loved it, if that helps.
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OK Octopus posted:I have spent too many hours and dollars playing and thinking about Silent Hill. It has (had) the potential to be the pinnacle of surreal horror. The visuals of the first one were gently caress-off gorgeous. Sean god-damned Bean as Harry... that's GENIUS casting. And then... we get the first movie. Christ. I'm dreading this sequel. I was probably going to post this in the Psycho Horror thread because they had a discussion about it, but I'm a really big fan of the first one. In fact, I really think it's close to being as good as it could possibly be. Sean Bean is great casting and I really appreciated his character for the scene at the school and the epilogue because it struck the perfect note for the movie to counteract the pure nightmare of Rose's situation without being a life preserver or comic relief. The biggest problem is that his character doesn't have a overall point other than to be a source of exposition. They even have him looking up old newspaper articles and being clued in by the cop. But then they provide Rose with the nuclear version of an exposition bomb. It makes no sense. Rose doesn't need to be told what's going on, she has the tidbits she needs and she only really cares about Sharon anyway. If the filmstrip exposition had been given to Sean Bean, his character makes sense narratively because he's the conduit for the audience to know what the deal is. Rose can figure out that Alessa is loving pissed about something because of her hospital room appearance. She doesn't need to know anything more than that. Bookend it with Chris uncovering the whole of Alessa's story and you get the movie practically perfect. Even with those two flaws unfixed, the movie still is a top tier horror film. The pacing is great, the three versions of Silent Hill are stylistically some of the best design work I've ever seen. And Pyramid Head is used to perfection. He shows up precisely the right number of times, doesn't show up for the finale (doesn't need to), and as an icon of sexual violence they got it so right it's loving crazy. Even their depiction of the oversize blade is incredibly well done. Now that I mention it, the extended use of PH in the sequel brought an unflattering comparison to Resident Evil Afterlife. It really set a standard in my eyes for oversize humans in terms of motion and sense of scale and Silent Hill Revelation (and Resident Evil Retribution for that matter) both fail to match it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j52Uy9hvVQ
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weekly font posted:I'm ten minutes into Detention and what the gently caress? I can't tell if I hate this or I'm gonna end up loving it. Yeah Detention is something else. I watched it with my friend and he didn't care for it while I loved it. However I went to highschool in the 90's and he didn't and that is pretty much the crux of the entire movie.
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Gonz posted:I'd sure love to know why Pyramid Head prevented Heather from getting killed by P-Hizzle is described as being, I forget which, either "Alessa" (the demon-child version from the film remember) or "the Town's" guardian and protector, which is presumably why he kind of herds everyone into the church in the first film. Since Heather is who she is, presumably Pyramid Head will come forth to protect her. The wisdom of making the Red Pyramid Thing a hero is of course a different story entirely. Maybe it's like how Godzilla eventually became the good guy? I'm wondering if there's a less dumb director's cut.
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Gonz posted:I'd sure love to know why Pyramid Head prevented Heather from getting killed by In Silent Hill 3, whenever you get a Game Over screen, a character named 'Valtiel' comes and carries Heather's body off-screen. Valtiel can also be seen lurking in the background of a few areas, keeping watch over Heather as she makes her way to the town. What's the relevancy of this? Valtiel's in-game model is a headless, weaponless Pyramid Head.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I remember really not liking Saw 5 when I first saw though, it's the only movie left me with an overall negative feeling, and this is the first time I'll be going back to it in years. Saw 5's big issue is it's less a movie as it's 'Here's a trap setpiece' and 'Here's why we can have a second trilogy/tetralogy; see, Hoffman was around the whole time! justification' and as a result it's rather thin. I'd power through it just to get to 6 and 7, which have their flaws (mainly in suspension of disbelief depending on how you read things) but are far better as 'movies', IMO.
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Oct 27, 2012 11:25
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SpeedofLife posted:Is Evidence actually worth watching or is it just a waste of time? It's a riot.
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Cornwind Evil posted:Saw 5's big issue is it's less a movie as it's 'Here's a trap setpiece' and 'Here's why we can have a second trilogy/tetralogy; see, Hoffman was around the whole time! justification' and as a result it's rather thin. I'd power through it just to get to 6 and 7, which have their flaws (mainly in suspension of disbelief depending on how you read things) but are far better as 'movies', IMO. The Hoffman/insane trap gauntlet makes a lot more sense when he is at he helm instead of John. The traps are pretty much inescapable and nobody ever wins just like with the pendulum trap he used when he was a Jigsaw copycat, and why the jigsaw 'survivor' can't save anyone, but especially his wife from the brazen bull in 7. Also, 7 had the most misogynistic opener on the planet - very much like in Hatchet
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weekly font posted:I'm ten minutes into Detention and what the gently caress? I can't tell if I hate this or I'm gonna end up loving it. I watched this last night and ended up loving it, but yeah it's pretty indescribable. To say "Scott Pilgrim with 90s and early 00s teen movies instead of videogames" doesn't really cover it. I also agree with some thoughts in this thread that it's not really a horror movie, but then, I don't know what the gently caress it is. On one hand, I think it's actually a sincere attempt to understand what it means to be a teen in a post-Columbine, post-9/11 world. On the other hand, it has a subplot mocking Freaky Friday, another minor subplot mocking Donnie Darko, and not only do they turn out to be the same subplot, but then they are also integral episodes of the main plot.
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I watched Saw 5, and it pretty much was as bad as I remember. It almost mirrors Saw 2, in that there's a central trap with a bunch of people in it and there are scenes outside of that which are more compelling. But Saw 5 is just much worse. I actually liked the house, watching the team in 5 was boring and not just because I knew how it ended. One thing I will say, is that I really didn't care for Hoffman the first time I watched this series. Now, I'm liking him a bit more.
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Nessus posted:This is actually quite well explained in the film itself! In the first one, I thought Pyramid Head was well established as a general source of torment being a manifestation of the school janitor for Alessa. And she turned it against the town. He certainly wasn't a guardian in the first movie considering he tried to kill Rose and de-skinned a townsperson for not making it to sanctuary in time. In the second they literally call him a Guardian which is some completely hosed up Stockholm Syndrome thing or something. Really, both of the movies seem to center on corrupting the sanctuary of the townspeople so Alessa can get her revenge. Trojan horsing herself via Rose and unleashing PH in the second seems to be the mechanism. But I still don't get what happened to Alessa. Sharon just overpowered her and seemed to be her same old nice self and that was that. Which seems to be pretty impossible considering they were originally one totally hosed up person separated into a totally hosed up person and a crazy dream obsessed normal person. I realize now I don't understand half of the plotpoints in the second movie. quote:I'm wondering if there's a less dumb director's cut. I don't really know how to salvage this one. You could cut nearly all of the dialogue scenes and have a fairly spooky 40 minute movie but it still has the crack monkey Cenobite and no real sense of escalation. Maybe reorganize the opening dream to later, do some ADR work to rework the talisman idea somehow?
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I really, really adored American Mary (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1959332/) and Resolution (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1977895/) at Toronto After Dark. The latter is more of a thriller until the last frame, but is still one of the best-written screenplays in the genre this year, IMO. Sort of like a lo-fi Cabin In The Woods. American Mary is really great too - never goes into the gore-porn realm (though a film about body modification easily could) and is remarkably restrained. I think Katharine Isabelle is even better here than in Ginger Snaps.
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I saw Paranormal Activity 4 last night and not only did it have the problems of its predecessors (Why are you filming this when you're running from a terrifying thing, why are you filming certain scenes at all handheld?) it also had zero resolution of the plot from the first three films. It screamed setup for a sequel and nothing else, and surprise surprise, it's the only one of the films to have an announced sequel before just after its release. Generally they wouldn't announce one until January. I'm a completionist. After the first four SAW movies, I just kept going on inertia. They all had their moments, but I don't think anybody will argue they got worse as time went on just like most horror franchises, so I don't know why I would expect more out of the PA series.
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LividLiquid posted:I saw Paranormal Activity 4 last night and not only did it have the problems of its predecessors (Why are you filming this when you're running from a terrifying thing, why are you filming certain scenes at all handheld?) it also had zero resolution of the plot from the first three films. It screamed setup for a sequel and nothing else, and surprise surprise, it's the only one of the films to have an announced sequel before just after its release. Generally they wouldn't announce one until January. I thought the studio had made it pretty clear that PA was going to be a Halloween franchise indefinitely (particularly since they don't have to make the kind of money "normal" movies make to be successful). I also could swear that they announced PA sequels that soon before.
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TUS posted:I'm watching Wrong Turn 5 aaaannnnnnnddddddd it amazes me that Doug Bradley declined a direct to DVD release of the franchise he was known for and did a direct to DVD of a franchise that fizzled out badly after the second installment (I can't say anything bad about a movie with Henry Rollins) gently caress everyone who was involved with getting this any sort of release. It was stupid, the acting was stupid, the editing was stupid (and normally I don't even care about editing, but it was bad) It was basically Pinhead telling a bunch of college kids and a sheriff that his sons were going to kill all of them. And they did, with zero trouble at all. At no point are you thinking maybe the good guys could POSSIBLY have a chance But, I mostly blame myself for renting it.
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Nessus posted:I'm wondering if there's a less dumb director's cut. You'd have to cut Kit Harington out of the movie completely to make this into an even half-way decent film. Not because of his acting but because his entire role is simply exposition that could have been done with Harry's not-so-secret box of Valtiel knowledge.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I thought the studio had made it pretty clear that PA was going to be a Halloween franchise indefinitely (particularly since they don't have to make the kind of money "normal" movies make to be successful). I also could swear that they announced PA sequels that soon before. Whether any of that's true or not, it's the only one of the flicks that felt like it definitely couldn't be the end of the series if it needed to be. Nothing's explained. Like, at all.
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The new RedLetterMedia review of PA4 is kind of funny just to see them totally baffled why anyone would go see a Paranormal Activity movie. I basically agreed with them totally since the PA movies are incredibly boring. And they raised a good point: footage of spooky things happening in like a ghost hunter TV show is kind of fun because it's at least presented as a "real thing" but the Paranormal Activity movies aren't. They're movies. And if your characters are people with a fresh SAG card in their pocket and they don't do anything except react to a loud noise then you aren't really making a horror movie. You're making a haunted house ride that takes in 30 million dollars opening weekend for reasons that don't make any sense.
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Mr Wind Up Bird posted:The new RedLetterMedia review of PA4 is kind of funny just to see them totally baffled why anyone would go see a Paranormal Activity movie. I basically agreed with them totally since the PA movies are incredibly boring. And they raised a good point: footage of spooky things happening in like a ghost hunter TV show is kind of fun because it's at least presented as a "real thing" but the Paranormal Activity movies aren't. They're movies. And if your characters are people with a fresh SAG card in their pocket and they don't do anything except react to a loud noise then you aren't really making a horror movie. You're making a haunted house ride that takes in 30 million dollars opening weekend for reasons that don't make any sense. Because haunted house rides are FUN AS HELL.
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penismightier posted:Because haunted house rides are FUN AS HELL.
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The haunted house ride analogy is totally apt though: all the dead air, "nothing happening", down time and completely mundane setting are designed to foster audience participation. It's kind of impressive that PA1 essentially has like two scares in it. Can you name the last horror movie that makes you sit still for a whopping two scares? People who huff and puff about how a slamming door is totally not scary are missing it entirely.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The haunted house ride analogy is totally apt though: all the dead air, "nothing happening", down time and completely mundane setting are designed to foster audience participation. It's kind of impressive that PA1 essentially has like two scares in it. Can you name the last horror movie that makes you sit still for a whopping two scares? People who huff and puff about how a slamming door is totally not scary are missing it entirely. I've said it many times, but seeing each one of the first three opening night are among my favorite theater experiences. Each is just so fun, genuinely creepy, and impressively lo-fi almost structuralist genre filmmaking. We take them for granted, and they are FANTASTIC pieces of filmmaking.
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Currently watching Cabin Fever. Is this secretly a comedy, or is it just really loving stupid?
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^^^^ There's definitely a comedic aspect to Cabin Fever. penismightier posted:I've said it many times, but seeing each one of the first three opening night are among my favorite theater experiences. Each is just so fun, genuinely creepy, and impressively lo-fi almost structuralist genre filmmaking. We take them for granted, and they are FANTASTIC pieces of filmmaking. This is an excellent description. If you ever get the chance to see one of these on opening night, go. The theatres are full of the "right" kind of horror fans - the types that don't make snarky comments or overcompensate with laughter after a jump scare. Early in PA4, there's a jump scare in the family's treehouse, and it got a great gasp reaction from the audience.
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Currently watching Cabin Fever. Is this secretly a comedy, or is it just really loving stupid? Both. CopywrightMMXI posted:^^^^ It speaks to the power of PA1 that there was a very public, very hilarious break up in the third row of the theater after 15 minutes in, and the movie STILL scared the poo poo out of everyone. They're just a riot. People scream, they laugh with tension, they whisper to each other and hide their faces. I sat in the last row of 3 and my favorite part was watching popcorn leap out of everyone's buckets during the scares (including my own).
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Currently watching Cabin Fever. Is this secretly a comedy, or is it just really loving stupid? The bit where the girl is shaving her legs and peeling off strips of flesh is one of my favorite grossout horror bits.
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