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apophenium posted:My group is usually only a max of four people, but two player games end up happening a lot... what would you guys recommend? I'm a big fan of Twilight Struggle (I'm just not very good at it yet). It's a great two player game, if you have three hours to kill. For a shorter two player experience, try Memoir '44, which is easy to pick up and includes dice rolling.
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Besides Twilight Struggle, some more 2 player games to consider are Summoner Wars, Netrunner, War of the Ring, Claustrophobia and Earth Reborn (if you don't mind the long setup and learning times).
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Dec 1, 2012 01:57
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VoodooXT posted:Besides Twilight Struggle, some more 2 player games to consider are Summoner Wars, Netrunner, War of the Ring, Claustrophobia and Earth Reborn (if you don't mind the long setup and learning times). I'd stick Mage Wars in that list as well. It's really fantastic.
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Dec 1, 2012 02:33
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It seems there are a lot of great games I should get. gently caress it, with my holiday bonus I'm gonna get a bunch of said games. Thanks for the recommendations, thread. I'll be back to let you guys know which ones I've enjoyed the most!
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apophenium posted:It seems there are a lot of great games I should get. gently caress it, with my holiday bonus I'm gonna get a bunch of said games. Thanks for the recommendations, thread. I'll be back to let you guys know which ones I've enjoyed the most! My best advice (that is completely unsolicited, I realize) when first expanding your game library is to diversify. You may, for example, like Dominion, so it might be tempting to get Thunderstone Advance and Ascension since you clearly already like deckbuilders, so you'd probably like those too. But why not have a worker placement, a drafting game, or an area control game instead? Sometimes you may not be in the mood to build a deck, but instead may be in the mood for a co-op experience. Variety also prevents you from going for your favorite game of a certain type, and playing nothing else. This happened to me when I got Stone Age when I already had Caylus, and now I literally never play Stone Age because I recognize it as being inferior in drat near every way in comparison. So while you might think that Mage Wars and Summoner Wars and Pixel Tactics might be interesting games in a 2p tactical niche, as they all are in their own way, chances are you may not have the opportunity to rotate through them as much as you like, especially when you really just wanted to play a worker placement game. I think it'd be sort of interested to compile a list of various types of boardgames and choosing which would be the best few picks from them. I know the OP does it a bit, but it's hardly comprehensive. It'd also be useful if we ever do that Ask/Tell ambassadordom that Winson alluded to earlier that I don't think was ever actually done. Edit: As for your recommendations, Caylus scales wonderfully from 2-5, and it actually plays differently depending on the number of players involved. Five is pretty goddamn brutal with Provost politicking, whereas 2 is a good duel. Dungeon Twister also technically expands to 4 players, but is amazing with 2. Dungeon Twister doesn't get enough love here. GrandpaPants fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Dec 1, 2012 |
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I played half a game of Betrayal at House on the Hill tonight. We were 15 minutes in when the guy drawing the 3rd Omen of the game rolls a 2, getting us into a sticky situation with a big spider. The traitor had a good roll and managed to kill me next time his turn was up while we had nearly no items or useful omens. The remaining heroes spent 4 turns or so exploring, hoping to find the items we needed to win, but then the guy to my left bumped my glass off the table which I foolishly tried to grab and I cut open my pinky. I left after it stopped bleeding, cause it hurt like hell and I was dead anyway. I just "cheated" and checked the traitor's tome for that haunt... How the hell are you supposed to win that?
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nimby posted:I played half a game of Betrayal at House on the Hill tonight. We were 15 minutes in when the guy drawing the 3rd Omen of the game rolls a 2, getting us into a sticky situation with a big spider. The traitor had a good roll and managed to kill me next time his turn was up while we had nearly no items or useful omens. The remaining heroes spent 4 turns or so exploring, hoping to find the items we needed to win, but then the guy to my left bumped my glass off the table which I foolishly tried to grab and I cut open my pinky. I like Betrayal a lot but this is a major and valid complaint about it: sometimes you roll an early haunt and it can be unwinnable for one side.
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And sometimes you get a late haunt and it's still unwinnable for one side. Betrayal is an enjoyable experience, but the actual winner is usually out of the players' hands. It doesn't help that a lot of haunts basically play themselves on autopilot without input from the traitor. The first time I was traitor, I was the little girl in the "house flooding" scenario. The house was filling up with water on its own, and with my base Might 3 I wasn't hurting anyone. Whether I won or lost seemed independent of any decisions I could possibly make. A lot of haunts where a prominent evil NPC runs on AI, like Chess With Death, seem to have the same issue.
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Dec 1, 2012 03:14
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Hey guys I did a thing: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3520238 Go out and preach about Board Games and the Board Game Jesus, Vlaada.
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Dec 1, 2012 03:37
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Related to that, what's a good alternative to suggest for people who play Monopoly? I'd like to be able to give people an answer other than "I really don't know; that's how bad Monopoly is!" The only thing within 10 years I can think of that comes close to Monopoly's neighbourhood is Merchant of Venus, and it's not that close.
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18XX  I can't really think of anything really that is similar to Monopoly. In essence most economic games will have flavours of Monopoly within them, really.
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Dec 1, 2012 03:53
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Ask people why they like Monopoly. If it's about the visceral fun of rolling lots of dice and handling money and stuff, maybe consider something like Stone Age or Alien Frontiers. If it's about driving other players bankrupt then I don't know because I don't like those sorts of games. I'd offer a third option but I can't think of anything else to do in Monopoly.
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Dec 1, 2012 03:55
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Countblanc posted:Ask people why they like Monopoly. If it's about the visceral fun of rolling lots of dice and handling money and stuff, maybe consider something like Stone Age or Alien Frontiers. If it's about driving other players bankrupt then I don't know because I don't like those sorts of games. I'd offer a third option but I can't think of anything else to do in Monopoly.
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Even better, play Game of Thrones because that's easier to rope people in with. Then they can get pissed off at never seeing a Muster as well as being backstabbed! But yeah, I think a solid alternative to Monopoly would either need to have you getting rich, possibly on the backs of other people or just outright make people go bankrupt. Not sure how key the rolling is, but it'd be nice if you could introduce people to not having a completely linear path. A third thing would be theme, which to me is being a real estate baron. And it would help if the setting is something more acceptable to mainstream than space, which is part of where Merchants of Venus fails for me as an alternative to Monopoly. SilverMike fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Dec 1, 2012 |
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Dec 1, 2012 03:58
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Years ago we had a "let's make monopoly better" thread, and it really came down to figuring out what good there was to preserve in Monopoly. Rolling dice and having people land on your big properties were about the only things we could come up with, so I think figuring out which of those two things your group favors would go a long way to deciding where to go from there.
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Dec 1, 2012 04:00
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Isn't For Sale supposed to be a good alternative?
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Just looked up For Sale, hits the theme weakly, no dice, kinda getting rich at other people's expense, but feels more like a bluffing game where you try to get the best value for your money/card at a given time. It doesn't seem like it's in the same area Monopoly is.
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Tekopo posted:Hey guys I did a thing: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3520238 Honestly, we should probably list some sort of stock answers for 'Well, I want to try non-hasbro boardgames, where do I start'... You know, after Space Alert
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Under $30?? Do tell, that looks sweet and would love to leave games set up without worrying about cat attacks.
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SilverMike posted:Related to that, what's a good alternative to suggest for people who play Monopoly? I'd like to be able to give people an answer other than "I really don't know; that's how bad Monopoly is!" I thought about this, why not Catan? Still has dice, still has the managing your own poo poo while dicking with others aspect, still has some resource management. You don't have the instant bankrupt chance, but you can cut people off or robber on them.
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Please no one take the bait in the ambassador thread with the guy saying how great a game Zombies!!! is.
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Indolent Bastard posted:Step 1: Buy a pine diningroom table from craigslist for $10 That's fantastic and you make it sound simple enough that I might not make a total sham of it! Even if i did, I'm out next to nothing so no big deal. Did you flip the rails of the table to get those contours for drink holder action or resurface them to get that look? Silvermike, I'd second Catan. It was my family's gateway game for sure, followed by Ticket to Ride. Campbell fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Dec 1, 2012 |
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Indolent Bastard posted:Yup it's a gaming table. I like the cup holders. That's a fine table.
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VoodooXT posted:Besides Twilight Struggle, some more 2 player games to consider are Summoner Wars, Netrunner, War of the Ring, Claustrophobia and Earth Reborn (if you don't mind the long setup and learning times). I will add Star Trek: Fleet Captains to this list.
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Dominion posted:Please no one take the bait in the ambassador thread with the guy saying how great a game Zombies!!! is. Ha ha. I will admit I was sorely tempted but thought better of it. Munchkin would have been a better troll.
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There are only two games I can think of that are like Monopoly and they are both out of print. Fast Food Franchise which is a pretty good roll and move and Owner's Choice. Owner's Choice is more available but Fast Food Franchise is probably the better game.
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Dominion posted:guy saying how great a game Zombies!!! is. It's better than Killer Bunnies. I hate that game with the burning of 1000 hotpockets.
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SilverMike posted:Related to that, what's a good alternative to suggest for people who play Monopoly? I'd like to be able to give people an answer other than "I really don't know; that's how bad Monopoly is!"
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Dec 1, 2012 05:41
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Netrunner for $20 on Amazon. Hello stocking stuffer?
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TenjouUtena posted:Honestly, we should probably list some sort of stock answers for 'Well, I want to try non-hasbro boardgames, where do I start'... The OP of this thread pretty much has it covered...
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GrandpaPants posted:Netrunner for $20 on Amazon. Hello stocking stuffer? Well the box won't fit into a stocking, but that is quite a deal. Indolent Bastard posted:Yeah but what can I grab for $5.01 so I don't pay $6.12 in shipping? Card sleeves.
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Indolent Bastard posted:Any brands to buy or avoid buying? Dragonshields or ultra pro mattes are popular. KMC are also good.
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Indolent Bastard posted:Any brands to buy or avoid buying? Avoid Mayday. I usually go with Fantasy Flight and Ultrapro. The hologram is a little annoying with Ultrapro, but they're my go-to for standard card size sleeves.
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Someone teach me about Wargames! Advanced Squad Leader looks pretty cool but it's all either out of print or ridiculously expensive. What other squad-level games are good? I play a lot of Twilight Struggle and variants (you guys should give 1989 a shot, it's pretty nice), should I look into Card-Driven Games like Command and Colors instead? I'm more drawn to the WW2 period than ancients, but if the C&C stuff is that good I'll give it a shot.
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I appreciate all the responses. I've hated Monopoly for ages now but it's hard to get some people to try something else if you can't even give them a game to partially replace the 'Monopoly experience'.Winson_Paine posted:I thought about this, why not Catan? Still has dice, still has the managing your own poo poo while dicking with others aspect, still has some resource management. You don't have the instant bankrupt chance, but you can cut people off or robber on them. Catan's a good gateway drug, but it either misses on winning at someone else's expense (if people are trading) or at not being luck-based as hell. (if no one's trading) Although I'll admit to only ever playing base Catan, so maybe one of the expansions could help there? Lorini posted:There are only two games I can think of that are like Monopoly and they are both out of print. Fast Food Franchise which is a pretty good roll and move and Owner's Choice. Owner's Choice is more available but Fast Food Franchise is probably the better game. Being out of print is a small problem for a board game I want to get someone else.  PerniciousKnid posted:I feel like Lords of Vegas might be a good Monopoly replacement. Real estate shenanigans, rolling dice, money... but I haven't played it so I can't really say. Looks interesting based on Vasel's review, might give it a try. If anyone else has ideas, please keep 'em coming. At the very least, you'll probably be giving me games to look at that I haven't heard of, and it's always nice to learn about new (old?) games.
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