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There's also Zombie Fluxx, which is far more fun than you'd think.
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Jedit posted:There's also Zombie Fluxx, which is far more fun than you'd think. Not really, it's still Fluxx. Mall of Horror has a good BGG rep, but I didn't like it at all.
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Out of curiosity why is Munchkin so disliked? As the person who's new to this whole thing it's one of the games that I really enjoyed playing with friends that has brought me into looking into a wider range of games and I now feel like the guy who turned up in the Punk Rock thread talking about how much I love Blink 182.
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Dec 1, 2012 23:40
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Almost entirely random, no player skill involved, gang-gently caress the leader is the only strategy, takes way too long to finish. Oodles of better, quicker playing card games out there.
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Dec 1, 2012 23:45
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When I asked about Munchkin elsewhere quote:Munchkin is terrible because once the nerdy jokes lose their humor the gameplay is a mess of 'gang up on the leader' until someone gets lucky or people give up. So a large part of the problem with Zombies!!! is the randomness. Dice to determine combat, cards + random locations makes that part TOO random. I like randomness in games. Otherwise I'd just play chess or something like it. But making certain parts random, ore making too much of a game random can make it bad. I guess I gotta start looking out for those indicators, when a game has TOO many random elements. This makes me a little worried about my Zpocalypse game I got in on at kickstarter. They released a mini-game, so I played a bit of it and it does involve rolling dice to kill zombies. And it did suck rolling dice to determine if I killed. It wasn't a full game with all the rules, so I'm hoping you start out lovely like that but when you level up and gain skills it becomes a lot less random. Hopefully.
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Dec 2, 2012 00:02
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As someone with zero D&D knowledge I don't even get most of the jokes in Munchkin so it doesn't even have that going for it. I guess it just hasn't felt random enough for me to not enjoy playing it - then again the only people I've played with don't really care about winning, just playing the game, and I find the process of playing it (and negotiating about who's going to help or hinder each other) a lot of fun. ...not that any of this matters given that this stuff is pretty subjective, I was just curious to find out why it's disliked.
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On the Monopoly alternatives: I'd suggest Acquire. It's not really mechanically similar to Monopoly, but you do try to get more stacks of cash than the other guys, and it fits the acquisition theme. Plus it's got a fun puzzle element in laying tiles to strategically merge corporations. No dice, though, so if that's what you like about Monopoly then you're out of luck. (But who plays Monopoly for the roll and move aspect?)
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While we're at it, what's the best roll and move? Has modern game design created an engaging roll and move?
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Carados posted:While we're at it, what's the best roll and move? Has modern game design created an engaging roll and move? The only roll and move game that I hear people talking positively about around here is Merchant of Venus. Personally, I still didn't like the roll and move part, but it still has it's fans.
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Dec 2, 2012 01:11
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Carados posted:While we're at it, what's the best roll and move? Has modern game design created an engaging roll and move? Escape: Curse of the Temple has lots of people saying good things. http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/113294/escape-the-curse-of-the-temple
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Dec 2, 2012 01:20
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Carados posted:While we're at it, what's the best roll and move? Has modern game design created an engaging roll and move? Formula D gets seems to have a pretty good consensus behind it. The theme (formula racing) doesn't entirely grab me, but after reading about the mechanics it did sound interesting.
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Powerboats is pretty great too. Roll and moves aren't bad as long as there is a method of managing the rolls, which I think is present in powerboats and formula d.
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I never really considered Formula D to be a roll and move, but more of a push your luck sort of game. Obviously you do roll and move, but pushing your luck with your gears and double/triple shifting is where the game is.
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I played Dungeon Lords for the first time ever today. I usually do fairly well in board games, but in this one i had a negative score. Such an awesome game.
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Here is the answer to your Monopoly question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnXloqRfdA The first part is a dumb animation, then Scott talks about why Monopoly is not great. After that, he lists the different reasons why people like monopoly, and suggests a game that fits into those reasons. Maybe not definitive or as relevant anymore, but definitely interesting!
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modig posted:Escape: Curse of the Temple has lots of people saying good things. http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/113294/escape-the-curse-of-the-temple That's not a roll and move game. Its also not a very good game in general though.
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My wife and I picked up the 2-player The Rivals of Catan last week and have been loving it. I haven't played regular Catan in years, but this feels so much quicker and more interesting. I love that they included a bunch of the expansions as "theme games" so looks like we'll have a lot to look forward to with it. It's about $16 bucks online, so can't recommend it enough.
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Jeremys Iron posted:As someone with zero D&D knowledge I don't even get most of the jokes in Munchkin so it doesn't even have that going for it. If you and your group enjoy it, then more power to you. Just don't expect anyone with a competetive edge to enjoy Munchkin for very long. As others have said, the end game devolves into "screw the leader" and one player ultimately ends up as the Kingmaker. I'm actually surprised you're able to get as much enjoyment as you have without a D&D background to really "get" the joke of the game. There's another card game out there called Gloom that also suffers from an endgame Kingmaker problem, but it sounds like you're group may enjoy it. Players control a family who they try to make as miserable as possible before killing them, while trying to make the other player's families as happy as can be. Once one family is all dead the players total up the score and the family with the most miserable dead people wins. Half the fun is in telling stories of how such misfortunes could plague the family members. Anyone who's seen a Tim Burton film can get the joke of the game, and get as much or as little into the storytelling element of it as they please.
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Kiranamos posted:That's not a roll and move game. Its also not a very good game in general though. The primary mechanic is roll dice, them move or do something else based on the results. I feel like it's close.
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Tried out something new (to me) today. Dark Horse is a pretty enjoyable game. It definitely feels like there's a strategy to it that I didn't quite get (mostly around getting influence), but I did end up in a close second place, so I clearly figured out something. I like the mechanic of using dice to buy from the limited actions, it combines randomness with strategy in an interesting way. If you aren't happy with something about your situation, you can usually spend a die to get it, which is nice. The name doesn't make any sense relative to the game or mesh with the frontier railway theme, incidentally. There's next to no bluffing OR any horses, far as I could tell. I bought Zombie Dice. I have a much shorter opinion for this one: gently caress yeah, Zombie Dice! It's quick, fun, and it went over really well. I also finally impulse bought Race for the Galaxy. One of these days I'm going to buy the gently caress out of everything Ascension, but today was not that day. It looks like it'll be another week until I can get my hands on Seasons, sadly. I was looking forward to that.
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Quidnose posted:Here is the answer to your Monopoly question. I like where he says that people who enjoy Chance cards should play Dominion.
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Countblanc posted:I like where he says that people who enjoy Chance cards should play Dominion. People who enjoy chance cards should play Arkham Horror, because that's the main mechanic! 
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Dominion posted:As far as Monopoly replacements go, Power Grid has paper money, an emphasis on cutthroat economic competition, etc. It's an auction and building game rather than a roll and move but depending on what it is about monopoly they like it might work.
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Jeremys Iron posted:Out of curiosity why is Munchkin so disliked? As the person who's new to this whole thing it's one of the games that I really enjoyed playing with friends that has brought me into looking into a wider range of games and I now feel like the guy who turned up in the Punk Rock thread talking about how much I love Blink 182. Munchkin is a game the encourages drawing it out as long as possible. I will forever associate it with my being drowsy enough to be involved with a car crash that everyone says should have killed me (I'm got out pretty unscathed). gently caress Munchkin forever.
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Dominion posted:As far as Monopoly replacements go, Power Grid has paper money, an emphasis on cutthroat economic competition, etc. It's an auction and building game rather than a roll and move but depending on what it is about monopoly they like it might work. I'd put forth Aquire as another good possible Monopoly replacement (though I'm not completely sure if it's still in print). It's got piles of paper money as well, and it revolves around property, though it focuses more on speculation rather than actual acquisition.
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Not sure if this was posted yet, but a friend just sent me this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WD0gMu0LDU A physics based real time boardgame engine! Maybe people would pick this up, and online boardgaming would be that much more interesting. I like using vassal and all, but urgh it sure does lose alot of the boardgame experience in execution.
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SinetheGuy posted:Formula D gets seems to have a pretty good consensus behind it. The theme (formula racing) doesn't entirely grab me, but after reading about the mechanics it did sound interesting. I've played it once, and had a great time. It's a nice change from the usual mechanics and themes, but it's not something I'd see myself OWNING. I'm glad I know people that have it though!
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Zombie #246 posted:Not sure if this was posted yet, but a friend just sent me this: I've yet to try this. I have seen it being played though and it looks fairly good. Gameplay feels a bit repetative. Your goal is just killing all monsters, so you move around the board and roll dice too kill monsters. There is a bit of tactic involved but overall it seems like a pretty simple game. The physics part feel good, altough I think it'd still feel weird too roll dice with a physics engine.
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SafetyTrain posted:The physics part feel good, altough I think it'd still feel weird too roll dice with a physics engine. 
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Tekopo posted:I played Dungeon Lords for the first time ever today. I usually do fairly well in board games, but in this one i had a negative score. Such an awesome game. Learn to play it better, then add in the text-card events and eventually items. You'll become skilled at the game but still end up with negative score. Zombie #246 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WD0gMu0LDU I want this, but adapted to Twilight Imperium. Then I can get everyone a tablet to run it on and stop having half an hour of setup/cleanup. nimby fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Dec 2, 2012 |
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What's the secret to getting a negative score in Dungeon Lords? Do I have to unlock it or something? I've never seen one happen o.O
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Bosushi! posted:If you and your group enjoy it, then more power to you. Just don't expect anyone with a competetive edge to enjoy Munchkin for very long. As others have said, the end game devolves into "screw the leader" and one player ultimately ends up as the Kingmaker. I'm actually surprised you're able to get as much enjoyment as you have without a D&D background to really "get" the joke of the game. They ended up getting Pandemic instead, which I thoroughly enjoy, though I do find myself thinking that really one person could just play the whole game through as really all the game does is facilitate discussions about what's best. ...this is why I think I'll be telling the family that the Battlestar Galactica board game would be a good Xmas present. (have also picked up 'Hey That's My Fish!' as a cheap generic family game for Xmas that everyone can play on the recommendation of this thread).
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I played City of Horror again last night and it was epic as usual. The negotiations are always hilarious, with people yelling and trying to defend themselves and their awful decisions to put their fellow survivors out to the zombies. I think I've introduced the game to about 20 people and they've all had a blast. I really enjoy the kind of player interaction that comes with games like this and The Resistance.
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Pierzak posted:What's the secret to getting a negative score in Dungeon Lords? Do I have to unlock it or something? I've never seen one happen o.O
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I got screwed mostly from taxes and then a 2 level spell made my dragon do 2 damage to the front hero rather than everyone.
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Tekopo posted:I got screwed mostly from taxes and then a 2 level spell made my dragon do 2 damage to the front hero rather than everyone. Gotta make sure them wizards are taken care of. Or scouted at least.
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I struggle to get Dungeon Lords to the table across all the different groups I play with. It's one of my favorite games and I rarely get to play it. There's more to it than this but basically it ends up being too theme-y for my euro gamer friends and too euro-y for the ameritrash crowd I game with. Like how Alice in Chains was too grunge for metal but too metal for grunge that's what I'm encountering with Dungeon Lords.
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To any of you guys who have experience selling your games - where/how did you get the best results?
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Looselybased posted:To any of you guys who have experience selling your games - where/how did you get the best results? If you're interested in getting other games, there's a trading thread in SA Mart, but I've also had success selling games there. eBay is basically the catch all, you'll get what is probably a fair price there.
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We just got Rex: The Final Days of the Empire as an early Christmas gift. Before I dive into the rules and errata I wanted to check in and see if any of you had any tips for learning the game or whatnot. I was kind of hoping to find a video walkthrough of the first turn or something, but haven't found one yet. Anyhow, anything that helped you conquer the 30-page rulebook would be great!
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