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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Madkal posted:

To paraphrase Spinal Tap: What's wrong being sexy?


Nuthin, have some Milo Manara:

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Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


She should probably wipe her nose there.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
The horror from the latest Spider-man issue

DJ Turbo Punch
Feb 3, 2006

WAKE UP


That reminds me. I was on a nostalgia read of Maximum Carnage the other day when this happened:



Sorry for the cell phone pic. You probably don't want it to look any better.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




I never thought the day would come that the art of Kevin O'Neill would serve as a refreshing palette cleanser:

Leper Residue
Sep 28, 2003

To where no dog has gone before.

DJ Turbo Punch posted:

That reminds me. I was on a nostalgia read of Maximum Carnage the other day when this happened:



Sorry for the cell phone pic. You probably don't want it to look any better.

And the part of Aunt May will be played by Lady Deathstrike.

Toastline
Dec 7, 2005
Chain Chomp
I discovered Richard Bonk recently. He's done some interesting stuff.



Like the linework here, from Nanosaur #1. Yes, that Nanosaur.

Internet Wizard posted:

That game was amazing. We'd play it whenever we could on the iMac we had in my 6th grade classroom. I was crushed when I found out it was available for free, but that there wasn't a PC version.
There is a PC version now, as my link shows! It's shareware, so it'll ask you to register it, but you don't have to.

Toastline fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Dec 7, 2012

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer
That dinosaur has a gun!

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

That game was amazing. We'd play it whenever we could on the iMac we had in my 6th grade classroom. I was crushed when I found out it was available for free, but that there wasn't a PC version.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

Toastline posted:

There is a PC version now, as my link shows! It's shareware, so it'll ask you to register it, but you don't have to.

It only supports mac os 9 and not X :saddowns:
I've never played Nanosaur, but I unconditionally fall in love with anything involving dinosaurs and guns.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

DJ Turbo Punch posted:

That reminds me. I was on a nostalgia read of Maximum Carnage the other day when this happened:



Sorry for the cell phone pic. You probably don't want it to look any better.

Is that Sal Buscema? I don't know if he was just trying to differentiate from John Buscema's style or not but I always found his art hugely off-putting.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Jerusalem posted:

Is that Sal Buscema? I don't know if he was just trying to differentiate from John Buscema's style or not but I always found his art hugely off-putting.

I really liked his Spider-man figure work but everything else didn't work for me.

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!
These are great, but why is he singling out Hawkeye for ridicule?

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!
Green Lantern is a guy who flies like Superman but doesn't have a cape to obscure his posterior like Superman. It's probably hard to avoid such awkward rear end shots.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Baron Bifford posted:

These are great, but why is he singling out Hawkeye for ridicule?

It's a meme.

Kojiro
Aug 11, 2003

LET'S GET TO THE TOP!

Baron Bifford posted:

These are great, but why is he singling out Hawkeye for ridicule?

They're drawn by multiple artists, the one who started just seems to enjoy drawing Hawkeye, and she figured this would be funny and enlightening! I believe she's right!

10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

Jerusalem posted:

Is that Sal Buscema? I don't know if he was just trying to differentiate from John Buscema's style or not but I always found his art hugely off-putting.

Same here. Everything was very square, straight lines and hard angles.

Sick_Boy
Jun 3, 2007

The reason Milton wrote in fetters when he wrote of Angels and God, and at liberty when of Devils and Hell, is because he was a true poet and of the Devil's party without knowing it.
Please excuse the lack of a pic but I remember owning the Planet of the symbiotes trade a few years back and being horrified by some of the art in it- ditto for Carnage Unleashed. Does anyone remember who drew those comics?

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Baron Bifford posted:

These are great, but why is he singling out Hawkeye for ridicule?

He's singling out oversexualized depictions of women in comics for ridicule. Hawkeye just gets the job.

(Plus Jeremy Renner is loving everywhere these days so it only makes sense)

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
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Is Hawkeye a macho chauvinist dick that deserves this ridicule?

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Baron Bifford posted:

Is Hawkeye a macho chauvinist dick that deserves this ridicule?

He's not a real person, it's not like he can do things to deserve ridicule.

LashLightning
Feb 20, 2010

You know you didn't have to go post that, right?
But it's fine, I guess...

You just keep being you!

Baron Bifford posted:

Is Hawkeye a macho chauvinist dick that deserves this ridicule?

I think he's just easy to turn into a Meme, maybe? There was some sort of "Hawkeye's so Poor ___" thing going on Twitter several months ago, I think.

Maybe because he's the male equivalent to the female superheroes who are the victim of that sort of drawing: Normal-looking and non-exotic-powered. Plus, he's one of the less muscled superheroes.

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!
Interestingly, there was a Robot Chicken sketch which suggests that Hawkeye is kept in the Avengers for the same reason as Black Widow: he has a really sexy butt that the others are all gay for.

Waterhaul posted:

He's not a real person, it's not like he can do things to deserve ridicule.
I'll rephrase the question: Is Hawkeye written in a way that makes it funny to draw him all gay and effeminate?

Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Dec 8, 2012

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
Plus he's known for being kind of a wiseass and a womanizer, like Nightwing over at DC.

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe

Baron Bifford posted:


I'll rephrase the question: Is Hawkeye written in a way that makes it funny to draw him all gay and effeminate?

One might say that the mere fact that you consider those poses "gay and effeminate" the very problem.

One also might not say that.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Baron Bifford posted:



I'll rephrase the question: Is Hawkeye written in a way that makes it funny to draw him all gay and effeminate?

Stop focusing so much on hawkeye, he is not the point.

Aerofallosov
Oct 3, 2007

Friend to Fishes. Just keep swimming.

Jago posted:

One might say that the mere fact that you consider those poses "gay and effeminate" the very problem.

One also might not say that.

I'd say it's part of the problem. I understand cheesecake and sexy poses are part of the industry, but when even simple, nonsexy scenes have butts and boobs stuck in them because heaven forbid we have a panel without boobs, well.

Or if you stuck a guy in the same pose, it just looks absurd. I loved the series they did where guys attempted poses that female models had and it looked so /goofy/.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



The problem is that if it was Spider-Man, no one would bat an eye with half or more of the poses.

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

^^ that is funny, but inaccurate

CharlestheHammer posted:

Stop focusing so much on hawkeye, he is not the point.

He's exactly the point. If you look at him and go "ewww, why is in that pose?" you are somewhat closer to understanding what's wrong with those poses.

Kojiro
Aug 11, 2003

LET'S GET TO THE TOP!
Jesus, I explained why Hawkeye a few posts back, it's because the artist who started this thing draws Hawkeye a lot anyway because Jeremy Renner. She posted this and a lot of people did it. It isn't to ridicule Hawkeye, it's to ridicule those poses.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

The Sphinxster posted:

^^ that is funny, but inaccurate


He's exactly the point. If you look at him and go "ewww, why is in that pose?" you are somewhat closer to understanding what's wrong with those poses.

You aren't contradicting me. It has nothing to do with Hawkeye, it could work with any male superhero. Focusing on why its hawkeye is missing the point to such a degree that you would have to be trying to do it.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!
The Hawkeye thing is probably worthy of its own thread, yo.

But speaking of detailed art of thighs and butts...

Work those glutes and hams!


A rare time when the guy has a better butt than the woman:








Hey, wait, this pose looks familiar...





Maybe whoever said Spiderman does the same contorted poses has a point.


And some DC for balance.





Pfft, Hal, are you even trying? You aren't even close to Spidey's level.



So clearly this proves the REAL exploition here...it's DC, they clearly aren't showing off enough male bodies and butts in ridiculous poses.

Mister Roboto fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Dec 9, 2012

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Mister Roboto posted:

A rare time when the guy has a better butt than the woman:


"Oh no! That PhreakTM's got my wife!" shouts Spider-Man on the cover, and Lil' Jerusalem gapes and decides he MUST buy it - Spider-Man is married? He's gotta find out more!

This was the first issue of a comicbook I ever bought for myself with my own money, and I have fond memories of it. It's one of the reasons I always feel irritated when I remember the whole,"Readers can't relate to a married Spider-Man!" thing. That poo poo got me buying!

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!
As I said before, it's hard to avoid butt shots with characters who leap around a lot or fly but do not have capes to obscure their posteriors. Though with Hal it's a little more disturbing because the green part of his uniform looks like a bathing suit.

quote:



Pfft, Hal, are you even trying? You aren't even close to Spidey's level.
The real issue her are the people in the foreground. Is Hal using his ring to grow in size? I think the rings can do that in the older comics.

Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Dec 9, 2012

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!

This panel is from Ultimate Power #2. Spider-Man is swinging way above the skyline - what exactly is his webline attached to?

Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Dec 9, 2012

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

Baron Bifford posted:


This panel is from Ultimate Power #2. Spider-Man is swinging way about the skyline - what exactly is his webline attached to?

...a helicopter? Maybe? I guess?

Sanschel
Aug 9, 2002

Way to trace porn to depict a minor, Greg Land. Stay classy.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
And there we have an image just begging to be mocked by depicting the two characters in opposite positions.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

thespaceinvader posted:

And there we have an image just begging to be mocked by depicting the two characters in opposite positions.

Wouldn't be too hard to find; you'd probably just have to look up the issues where Spidey was hanging around Captain Marvel.

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Or is it Sputnik
Aug 22, 2009

Oh, Ho-oh oh oh, oh whoa oh oh oh
I'll get 'em caught, show Oak what I've got

Mister Roboto posted:

Wouldn't be too hard to find; you'd probably just have to look up the issues where Spidey was hanging around Captain Marvel.


That's not a very good example, since it's still pandering to the male gaze.

Spider-Man piggybacking on a Captain marvel who just so happens to be swaying her hips is not the same as Kitty Pryde pushing chest and butt out while swinging with Spider-Man.

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