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EchoPrima posted:I'm thinking this is probably some weird computer simulation due to the weird glitches, plus everything seems too normal but isn't the Despair event supposed to be happening? Also I doubt any of the DR1 cast will be returning, since they would probably die, making their escape at the end of the first game kind of pointless. I also think that's probably someone impersonating Togami. Oh my God. They're all in the Matrix, aren't they?
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I had been previously spoiled on the Fatogami, and man, did I ever want to show that picture of him to everybody ever. So glad he's out in the open now.
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Yapaari posted:As I said in my previous post, I played the original up to the point were orenronen translated. I have some questions for him (and Fedule, if need be). Seriously?
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I'll be honest, I thought that was a gun at first. Speaking of, it's pretty obvious that at least a bit of Junko is swimming around in this classes' collective gene pool, but what about her sister? We didn't get to see much of Mukuro in the last game so it's hard to say which one is (partly?) her, assuming she's there at all.
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Yapaari posted:As I said in my previous post, I played the original up to the point were orenronen translated. I have some questions for him (and Fedule, if need be). These are all Fedule's additions, attempting to make the translation flow better in English. We are going to add small bits of text that weren't there in the original and take away others if we think they help make the game's point. We're also going to come up with our own style to how the characters speak, that may not be an exact match for the original speech patterns but will (hopefully) adhere to their spirit. This may not work for you if you're reading the Japanese along, but I hope you'd give it a chance. Obviously, Fedule pushes for a looser translation while I tend to stick to the original (and I do revert his changes from time to time), but I think this kind of translation, while having its own minuses, works better in overall. Fedule will have to comment about why he chose those specific things to add. Yapaari posted:Another one: That one's entirely on me, and you're very right. The error slipped out during my initial run on the text and I never caught it later. Thanks!
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Upon escaping Hope's Peak Academy in the first game, Togami proceeded to shout "There can be only one!" and devoured the remaining students.
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Dec 11, 2012 21:48
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Naw man, he just got his fill of Junko's home cooking. So she kept her side of the bargain after all!
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Dec 11, 2012 21:52
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I think out of all the characters introduced, Naegi 2 is my favorite just based on character design. It's like they took Naegi's original design and actually made him interesting. That said I don't think he's actually Naegi, that seems like a lovely twist. Meanwhile, Punk girl looks like the most interesting of the female characters based on first impression. I'm hoping she has some good lines. Hinata is even more bland looking than Naegi was so I'm hoping his personality has a little more impact. The prim girl on the far left of the character image is giving me some strong Maizono vibes for some reason. If she lasts past the first chapter I'll be impressed. Lastly It's clear that Togami is channeling Yamada in order to make up for the lack of a fat character. 
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Dec 11, 2012 21:54
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kidcoelacanth posted:I can't wait until we learn more about the characters so the fact that they have similarities in design to old characters stops being the only thing about them. I guess, but on the other hand this game is the best one for delivering that feeling you get when you switch schools and you find out that everyone in your new class is almost a palette swap of someone you knew back at your old school, in an awkward manner of speaking.
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This is the best gift an LP fanatic like myself can receive. orenronen is truly our Super High-School Level LP'er Santa this year. going back to the designs, I know all those similarities are there on purpose, now will they be there to give us false links or just as a bit of fun? I can't wait to find out!
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RedMagus posted:going back to the designs, I know all those similarities are there on purpose, now will they be there to give us false links or just as a bit of fun? I can't wait to find out!
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Dec 11, 2012 21:59
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I hope Togami still has his character development from the first game, pseudo-nice Togami was too funny and I was super glad when he survived because I thought that character change would have killed him.
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Dec 11, 2012 22:05
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I thought Ultragoon and Togami were detestable enough on their own, but to fuse together into some horrible Goonami? That's just nasty.
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Dec 11, 2012 22:07
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:I'll be honest, I thought that was a gun at first. I say it's the girl with the camera! Why? She has freckles! Well, that and she looks kinda plain. Mukuro, appearance-wise, looks kinda plain. She would have given me a "girl next door" vibe if it weren't for the fact that we got info on her related to SHSL Despair and her own SHSL title before we even saw her appearance in the game.
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Early Christmas makes me happy! Thanks, Oren and Fedule! I'm really looking forward to it.
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Finally, the curtain opens on a new game of mutual killing and despair. I'll be following along on this one, too.   And here's our new batch of students. The first mystery I can see right out the gate is where these sixteen new students came from. After all, I seem to recall that Junko mentioned that the students from the first game were the only survivors of the Despairing Incident. Unless she was lying about that, I suspect another time gap. My initial guess is that this is taking place a generation after the first game, after society recovered from the Despairing Incident and Hope's Peak Academy reopened its doors. The presence of Fat Togami seems designed to trick us into thinking this is a direct sequel. I'm guessing Fat Togami isn't actually the Togami from the first game, but his son. The resemblance of the new cast to the first game's characters might be intentional, and there might be other descendants of the survivors of the first despair game around. For instance, the white-haired guy in the hoodie does look a bit like a mix of Naegi and Kirigiri, doesn't he?
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Fedule's Riveting Editorial Anecdotes Episode the First Being a series of posts wherein I talk a little* about the editing process, and discuss a few specific matters of note. As of this, the first installment, we're only an update into the LP, and there aren't a whole lot of specifics to discuss - what characterization we've seen is just preparation for when we're properly introduced to these characters later. So our discussion today is going to be a little more... general. Let's begin from the top: my purpose here is... well... to edit. I'm an editor. I believe this has been mentioned, yes? Editing is a very... particular role. I am not the author - that's Kazutake Kodaka et al - I can't write to save my life. I'm not the translator - that's all orenronen - I don't speak a word of Japanese. My applicable skillset is: 1) I am good at words. 2) This is not the same as being good at writing! In a typical authorial process, the editor is a glorified English teacher - they take a work and scribble all over it with that infuriating red pen. 'This is a poorly worded sentence!' 'That reads horrifically!' 'Holy poo poo just use "said" instead of the Thesaurus.com entry for "said"!'. They don't change the things that are being said... they just change the words that are being used. So, here's the process. Oren will go through a section of the game and... well, LP it. He'll then produce a rough draft of the update, translated - readable, intelligible - if a little flat. With Dangan Ronpa the first, he'd then go and edit this himself, producing the really-quite-good-actually translation we all know and love. With SDR2, however, he sends the first draft to me. I then take his translation and... well. Before posted:First things first. I must remember... I mean, that's functional, isn't it? You could read that and get a complete idea of what's going on here. In propositional terms, there's nothing wrong with this! Hinata resolves to remember, then attempts to remember, and then begins to actually remember. See? Fine! But, the words aren't so great. Let's see now... After posted:OK... Don’t panic. First thing’s first. I have to remember... Much better, if I do say so myself! (One big perk of being good at words is that you're much more suited to toe the treacherous line between self-confidence and outright arrogance... at least, in writing, anyway.) Ultimately, none of the explicitly expressed propositions have changed... but the words work. I can't take credit for the overall quality of the work - that's Spike Chunsoft's claim. Nor can I take credit for the monumental undertaking that led us to the point where I even have anything to edit - that's Oren's bow to take. What I can take credit (or flak, as appropriate) for is how well it reads. And maybe individual sentences. If you're wondering... the finished work has, according to my estimations (read: outright guesswork), a fairly even balance between lines that I've touched up a little, lines that are unchanged from the original draft, and lines that I've almost entirely rewritten. Very, very occasionally, you'll see a line that I outright invented, but I'm sure I don't need to explain why I'm going to be very, very, sparing on that front. Here are some promises:
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Next time, we'll- -Wait... what's that? Is it? Could it be... a question from the audience?! Yapaari posted:"It goes beyond mere support... it borders on worship. Like a religion". Uh oh! I've been found out! Yes, the lines you have quoted are me taking liberties. I am under instructions to not be afraid to take liberties! But I stand by the liberties I take. Here's the first draft of what would become the "religion" line: quote:I'm like a young baseball fan who worships a professional baseball team... Hinata's original reaction to the "purpose" line is, according to the first draft: quote:S...Some kind of a purpose...? I actually changed this after reading a few updates ahead. The read I got on Hinata was that his inner monologue would be perceptive, inquisitive, distrusting, and - in starkest contrast to Makoto Naegi - decisive. "Stop worrying and think", etc, was just a little embellishment that I thought would accentuate his approach to waking up in a strange place with shattered memories. As for "Come on..."... you know how I said earlier that the initial opening had four rows of ellipses? Yeah. Yapaari posted:Another one: As great as I keep repeatedly telling you I am at words, I am, tragically, confined to words in English. So... when Oren translates something incorrectly... I won't notice. Fortunately, in this case... the erroneous translation still achieves the desired result. No harm, no foul! Thanks for writing in, Yapaari! I always say that a good editor - like a good level designer - should work with an invisible hand. But if you look for my changes, you'll find them! And if you've got something to say, I'm happy to As I was saying, next time, we'll have an update containing actual characterization for us to discuss, and I won't have to distract you with mission statements and reach like this for anecdotes! *bit too much Fedule fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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It's the behind the scenes bits I love about LPs like this so much. Thanks for the insight, Fedule, looking forward to more!
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Dec 11, 2012 22:21
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Fatogami is the best goddamned thing ever.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Speaking of, it's pretty obvious that at least a bit of Junko is swimming around in this classes' collective gene pool, but what about her sister? We didn't get to see much of Mukuro in the last game so it's hard to say which one is (partly?) her, assuming she's there at all. I thought Raggedy Ann here looks a lot like Mukuro:  She even has freckles!
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Fatogami is so good. I love how it looks like he is going to have all the same expressions he had in the last game.
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CestMoi posted:eurgh Fedule don't give me reasons to actually read the thread I have an early post in the thread. Shall I catalog the Riveting Anecdotes?
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Fedule posted:I have an early post in the thread. Shall I catalog the Riveting Anecdotes?
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Yes, please continue (and archive in your early post) your editing notes. I appreciate the background look as the editing makes me very nervous (staunch supporter of direct translation with only the vaguest sprinkling of localisation). It'll help alleviate my nerves 
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4th Asclepiadean posted:Oh my God. They're all in the Matrix, aren't they? That would allow for a bunch of crazy poo poo to happen. I can't wait to see the executions now.
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CestMoi posted:eurgh Fedule don't give me reasons to actually read the thread no problemo.
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orenronen posted:
Wild theory time: All the Hope's Peak students from the first game (including maybe Santa and not-Kenshiro) have all been mixed together in a big incestuous slurry and these kids are the bizarre genetic offspring. False memories and/or a Matrix like VR world may or may not be involved. I think the only spoiler I saw on this game was an image in the last thread that the Mono-rabbit existed. Now it's come up again and jogged my memory that that happened, I'm wondering if it made me subconsciously think all the Junko theories were more likely, since Mukuro had a rabbit-clip in her hair that bears a passing resemblance to it..
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I just wanted to chime in that Mist in Fedule's avatar looks so happy when chiming in during the update. Lets talk about murders!
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Thread needs the <3 <3 JAPAN LOVER <3 <3 tag from ADTRW but other than that I'm glad to see this get started, and doubly-glad I finally caught one of these narrative-driven LPs at the very start.
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You - or whomever did this - is a wonderful person. Now I can enjoy the LP without drowning in the speculation!
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Fedule posted:Fedule's Riveting Editorial Anecdotes Fedule, thanks for your answer, the post was enlightening. I see where you're coming from. You're right, there's still no characterization, so I just wrote what I saw :P. The thread is still young. If I see something I think should be done differently in the future updates, I'll be sure to mention it, should I have the time! orenronen posted:That one's entirely on me, and you're very right. The error slipped out during my initial run on the text and I never caught it later. Thanks! Orenronen, I see you changed it. Keep it up!
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BrightWing posted:I just wanted to chime in that Mist in Fedule's avatar looks so happy when chiming in during the update. On that note, I dabble in translation work, and a bit of advice I got from more experienced translators / proofreaders - you can rearrange the material you have to make the translation flow better or make more sense, but writing your own additions is a no-no, for obvious reasons. If you want to leave and impression or show your skills, you should consider writing something original, rather than mess with a translation.
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KataraniSword posted:You - or whomever did this - is a wonderful person. Now I can enjoy the LP without drowning in the speculation! Ah, but you will have the despair of waiting three extra hours to know there's an update.
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Kimitsu posted:SHSL Anne of Green Gables. Also the most famous Western chuunibyou.  No braids = no Anne. Seriously, it's her most distinguishing feature. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Dec 11, 2012 |
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Wyvernil posted:I'm guessing Fat Togami isn't actually the Togami from the first game, but his son. The resemblance of the new cast to the first game's characters might be intentional, and there might be other descendants of the survivors of the first despair game around. For instance, the white-haired guy in the hoodie does look a bit like a mix of Naegi and Kirigiri, doesn't he? I'm hoping Fat Togami is a completely different character unrelated to Togami and with no knowledge of who he is, and the fact that he looks exactly like an obese version of a character from the first game is never acknowledged.
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I think the only student we haven't seen any dialogue from / an up-close picture of is Hershey Kisses Ninja. Hope that changes soon; I wanna know if he represents the Lollipop Guild.
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Prison Warden posted:Wild theory time: All the Hope's Peak students from the first game (including maybe Santa and not-Kenshiro) have all been mixed together in a big incestuous slurry and these kids are the bizarre genetic offspring. False memories and/or a Matrix like VR world may or may not be involved. Though I still think Fatgami is Togami's son. Or maybe his fat twin that didn't appear in-game, who knows. e: Power of Pecota posted:I'm hoping Fat Togami is a completely different character unrelated to Togami and with no knowledge of who he is, and the fact that he looks exactly like an obese version of a character from the first game is never acknowledged. Actually I want this to happen.
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