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Lemons posted:nzbs.org/login yeah it looks like they are attempting to go low profile while the poo poo storm peters out.
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Found this on nzbs.org forums:quote:I know I have not posted here really, but with all the closure of indexes over the past 48-72 hours I felt the need to post this, you know just in case. That doesn't look promising and we should REALLY start moving the goonindex stuff.
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I know some goons were thinking about starting up an index. What about doing it via a .onion . They have way bigger fish to fry in that world then a private Index.
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Billa posted:That doesn't look promising and we should REALLY start moving the goonindex stuff.
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Dec 11, 2012 12:21
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torjus posted:What is so dramatic about this? What are you reading into it other than a user thanking the admins? I'm a complete moron, I though the guy who wrote that was the owner of the site. My brain is hosed up, sorry!
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Dec 11, 2012 12:28
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I think the Holland providers were the ones targeted/abandoned by PayPal
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Dec 11, 2012 12:48
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Bang3r posted:I'm still fairly new to Usenet so I only had a matrix account so this is fairly balls for me, currently trying to find a replacement and all of the newsnab ones from the google search so far are firing up "Registrations are currently invite only." me too, wonder if there is a newznab pkg for synology servers. BRB Edit: no, there isn't Delzuma fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Dec 11, 2012 |
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Saw this pop up in IRC earlier:quote:[05:13] < designgears> when will sab be updated to work with more index sites?
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inpheaux posted:Saw this pop up in IRC earlier: Can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but you might have. Not that I am blaming you - SABNZBD is fantastic, thanks - but the less-experienced/new user could easily be lead to believe those were, at the least, the two "best" options available, if not the only ones, based on that. Whatever the case it's all said and done now, and will blow over soon. The days of high-profile indexers are over, just like it was with torrent sites - surprised they lasted this long, really.
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Dec 11, 2012 14:45
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Ixian posted:Can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but you might have. Not that I am blaming you - SABNZBD is fantastic, thanks - but the less-experienced/new user could easily be lead to believe those were, at the least, the two "best" options available, if not the only ones, based on that. I can confirm that this is exactly what I did when I got into Usenet and installed sabnzbd.
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Dec 11, 2012 15:31
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Nope, being sincere. It wasn't until now that I realized that step of the wizard could be misconstrued to be an endorsement of those two indexers, when it was just there because if you used those indexers they absolutely would not work without that step. Edit: Now I feel bad for inadvertently convincing people to throw money at NZBMatrix.
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Dec 11, 2012 15:34
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inpheaux posted:Edit: Now I feel bad for inadvertently convincing people to throw money at NZBMatrix. I always kind of wondered why you guys "liked" NZBMatrix. I thought it was a referral/rewards thing like the giganews thing you guys have going on. Good to know you're not jerks. 
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Dec 11, 2012 15:46
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inpheaux posted:Nope, being sincere. It wasn't until now that I realized that step of the wizard could be misconstrued to be an endorsement of those two indexers, when it was just there because if you used those indexers they absolutely would not work without that step. I understood why you had it there, and get that it was not an endorsement of any kind. To be fair though, I felt that NZBMatrix was easily the best nzb site out there and I got my moneys worth out of it multiple times over. It's something I would have done anyway, with or without your "endorsement". It does kinda suck for the people that may have upgraded to VIP right before the site got shut down, but to me that's a calculated risk as it's just kind of the nature of the beast when dealing with these sort of things. Thank you for SABnzbd, by the way
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Dec 11, 2012 15:50
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Hey, umm, what about Spotnet?
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Powdered Toast Man posted:I can confirm that this is exactly what I did when I got into Usenet and installed sabnzbd. I did like the "add to queue" thing at NZBMatrix. But it's not your fault I can't read. :iamafag:
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So I got newznab plus setup in windows and it is not too bad with mostly the default settings. Will probably take a few weeks to get everything how I want it and fill some backlogs. I didn't follow this guide completely (was already mostly setup) but used a few points out of it. http://www.tiag.me/installing-newznab-with-xampp-on-windows/
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eames posted:Hey, umm, what about Spotnet? Are any of those programs in english?
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Dec 11, 2012 16:20
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Sooooo... is this a bad time to be signing up for NewsGroupDirect's Tuesday Terabyte deal? http://newsgroupdirect.com/terabyte-tuesday
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Dec 11, 2012 16:50
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HEY INSANE TOTORO, BUY SOME USENET ACCESS
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I would but it seems Usenet went chaos overnight!
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I noticed any problems with usenet in the last 6 months. I had already scoured terabytes of old stuff and the new stuff I apparently got before manual posting to NZBMatrix and DMCA could take effect. Or my choice of server and back-up are just great for retention (as well as being as cheap as possible). My only problem is the lack of good Western Digital sales this year. Insane Totoro posted:I would but it seems Usenet went chaos overnight!
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Dec 11, 2012 18:00
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Hogburto posted:More like stabilized overnight. Seriously. I don't see how this is anything but good. It's a reboot to get rid of the stupid.
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Dec 11, 2012 18:37
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So is the takeaway here that "Usenet is here to stay, just don't count on public indexes and HEY INSANE TOTORO BUY THAT TERABYTE USENET DEAL"
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Dec 11, 2012 18:43
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Insane Totoro posted:So is the takeaway here that "Usenet is here to stay, just don't count on public indexes and HEY INSANE TOTORO BUY THAT TERABYTE USENET DEAL" Yes. Though I didn't check the deal so caveat emptor?
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Dec 11, 2012 18:52
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Where is all the panic coming from anyway? It seems like Binsearch.info still works and all the forums/blogs/IRC channels/etc are all still up. So a couple major indexers rolled over. Big whoop de doo?monkeybounce posted:Yes. Though I didn't check the deal so caveat emptor? The deal is 1 TB for $40, one time charge.
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Dec 11, 2012 18:56
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Because most of the useful smaller indexes are locked down tight and aren't easy to get access to. Fully automated scrapers are marginally useful when there's lots of crap out there (like password protected bullshit).
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Dec 11, 2012 19:06
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Plus the big influx of DMCAs on all the major providers. I can't really see how a bunch of the major indexers going down and companies going apeshit on getting stuff removed is in anyway 'A good thing'. You're probably ok getting that 1TB deal though, I guess.
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Dec 11, 2012 19:25
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Insane Totoro posted:Sooooo... is this a bad time to be signing up for NewsGroupDirect's Tuesday Terabyte deal? I can't find anything about the speeds on their site. Does anyone use them, if so how are the speeds?
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I have no experience with that site but Astraweb offers 1TB for $50 any day of the week, so don't feel as if you'd be missing out on a crazy deal if you don't jump on it.
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Chick3n posted:I have no experience with that site but Astraweb offers 1TB for $50 any day of the week, so don't feel as if you'd be missing out on a crazy deal if you don't jump on it. Asterweb gets hit the hardest by DMCA, fyi. Something about their automated system makes it particularly easy to submit near-instant takedowns, which has been great for the companies that do that and the cause of much teeth-gnashing among it's users. Newsgroupdirect is a Highwinds reseller. I have zero experience with that particular company but Highwinds itself is pretty decent - although like all providers they get their fair share of DMCA as well. Insane Totoro posted:Where is all the panic coming from anyway? It seems like Binsearch.info still works and all the forums/blogs/IRC channels/etc are all still up. So a couple major indexers rolled over. Big whoop de doo? Because there are really only 3 or 4 big "Usenet" providers that cater to this sort of thing - the multitude of companies that resell them make it appear otherwise, but it really is that small a group. Big media finally woke up and realized that, if those few companies have servers in the US (which for performance reasons they do) they could DMCA them all day long or otherwise sue them in to oblivion. Same goes for European countries with similar laws. Led by third party specialists, Big Media has done just that. This goes far beyond an indexer or two rolling over - that's just step one, make things less convenient. Step two and beyond is actually getting rid of the content as fast as it is posted under as many aliases as it is posted. I mean, that's the great weakness of all this - the reason Usenet has exploded is because a variety of excellent, well-designed automation tools have sprung up around it, turning what used to be an onerous process in to something easier than Tivo. In order for all that to work though you need a good indexing system those programs can hook in to, fast hosts to provide the content, and the content itself has to be named in such a way that it can be found by said systems. That means the same automated processes that allow programs like Sickbeard to find your TV shows to download can also be used to find the same shows to automatically issue a DMCA takedown request. The two are linked - break one, you break the other. Ironically, NZBMatrix rolling over will temporarily make it just as hard for the takedown companies at first. However, don't think for a second that they don't know how Newsnab works either - I guarantee they have all long since set up their own servers to monitor.
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inpheaux posted:Nope, being sincere. It wasn't until now that I realized that step of the wizard could be misconstrued to be an endorsement of those two indexers, when it was just there because if you used those indexers they absolutely would not work without that step. Wow, yeah, I always thought it was a recommended provider hence why it was one of two specifically listed.
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sycot posted:I can't find anything about the speeds on their site. Does anyone use them, if so how are the speeds? I just signed up for the 1TB plan and I am currently hitting 100mbit.
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Not sure if anybody was dumb like me and paid for VIP access to NZBMatrix just before it went down, but if you did you should do a chargeback for it. I was able to successfully get my money back.
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hammeritme posted:Not sure if anybody was dumb like me and paid for VIP access to NZBMatrix just before it went down, but if you did you should do a chargeback for it. I was able to successfully get my money back. Did you contact them at least for a refund? A chargeback means they're going to lose your $7 plus whatever fee their processor charges them for chargebacks ($25-75). Not the nicest thing to do to a tiny business.
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inpheaux posted:Nope, being sincere. It wasn't until now that I realized that step of the wizard could be misconstrued to be an endorsement of those two indexers, when it was just there because if you used those indexers they absolutely would not work without that step. When I go back to the Index Sites category it gives me the impression that the only supported are NZBMatrix and Newzbin. My understanding was that sabnzbd back in the day only supported the old-school Newzbin. I've kind of left all the metadata pieces to Sickbeard nowadays. Honest question, where should we be looking?
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Doctor Jokie posted:When I go back to the Index Sites category it gives me the impression that the only supported are NZBMatrix and Newzbin. My understanding was that sabnzbd back in the day only supported the old-school Newzbin. I've kind of left all the metadata pieces to Sickbeard nowadays. I have been looking at individual Usenet forums, getting the file name, then grabbing the nzb off of binsearch.info, and then putting it into sabnzbd. Kind of how we always did it, no?
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Ixian posted:don't think for a second that they don't know how Newsnab works either - I guarantee they have all long since set up their own servers to monitor. Take a deep breath. Relax in your bunker for a while if you like, but don't set the timelock on the blast door. Just don't.
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vty posted:Did you contact them at least for a refund? A chargeback means they're going to lose your $7 plus whatever fee their processor charges them for chargebacks ($25-75). LOL contact them how? They just shut the website down and put up a "We're closed sorry" page. Why should I go through the trouble of tracking them down if they were just going to take my money and split? Anyway, I don't want this to derail into a debate on chargebacks, but my feeling is that in this case it was justified. Just wanted to share that option if anybody else got burned like I did.
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Is it possible to distribute the Newznab backfill somewhat? I'd be happy to volunteer server time to backfilling duty, but I don't have the time or energy to actually run a site for any length of time. (I'm going to go and have a look at it all this evening. I'll report back!)
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