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Crabtree posted:Hey Orenronen, would you mind showing off any visual differences or upgrades that the general gameplay of DR2 has over 1 in a video or separate post? Hold your horses, buddy. We literally haven't even gotten to gameplay yet.
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Waffleman_ posted:Hold your horses, buddy. We literally haven't even gotten to gameplay yet. I'm sorry, this thread's got me so excited for content.
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HelloWinter posted:Probably the same deal as the first Dangan Ronpa; they're emblems from the past school that each student have attended before being accepted to Hope's Peak.
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Hey, wait a minute... Something's kinda... off about the new characters...Update 1 character portraits posted:
I'm starting to think that all those similarities to the DR1 cast aren't exactly coincidences, but that doesn't necessarily mean that any of them are even related. It's probably a bit too early for any serious speculation, but here goes anyway: The events of Dangan Ronpa 2 (perhaps even the first one as well) are a computer simulation, possibly run by Alter Ego/Monobear 2.0/some other AI. The reason the characters resemble the previous cast so much is that the AI seems to be taking all the best traits of the participants in the last iteration and using that data to construct the actors for the current run. For better or worse, this would mean the DR2 students are actually pastiches of the DR1 class, both appearance and behavior-wise. Alternatively, the developers made both sets of characters visually similar on purpose as a red herring, and said similarities will never be relevant to the plot. Most likely, Hinata's class enrolled in the year leading up to the Despair Event, so we're probably dealing with the 79th class this time. A possible explanation as to why the cast of DR1 and DR2 never crossed paths at all could be attributed to them being kept in entirely separate areas of the school, or simply locked away in cryostasis in some unmarked/unexplored area and released once the survivors of the previous despair game left and Monobear came back online after the credits. However, that pink rabbit... thing in the video at the end of the first update clearly isn't Monobear, which makes me wonder if we're actually dealing with two masterminds this time around. Of course, this all relies on the assumption that DR2 even is a murder-oriented despair game like the first one, which we've yet to confirm. For all we know this could be an entirely different kind of despair game, where the participants aren't actively encouraged to kill each other and are simply given the mission of solving the mystery behind their situation from the get-go, but are given a time limit to do so and the place is now chock-full of lethal booby traps or something 
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Dec 12, 2012 00:45
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Dear god. This thread went up less than 12 hours ago and it already has almost thirty thousand views. Orenonren, you've created a monster. (This thread going up made my day, especially since you're translating Zero too.)
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suuchan posted:Ah, seeing the posts about the translation liberties and stuff with the character speech patterns makes things make a little more sense now! A few people were a little surprised because in this translation so far it seems like Hinata speaks very formally, compared to the upfront/bordering on impolite way he apparantly speaks in Japanese. "Surprised" is a somewhat conservative way of putting it, if you're talking about who I think you're talking about.
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Once we are introduced to the all the characters I am going to guess survivors. I am guessing there are going to be six like last game (No idea if I am right or not could be less could be more)
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Fedule posted:"Surprised" is a somewhat conservative way of putting it, if you're talking about who I think you're talking about. ...Well, maybe 'annoyed' would have been a slightly better choice of words. It's probably just a matter of personal preference! suuchan fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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Oh god, I read through the entire of the first thread in about 3 days (I regret nothing). This one is going to be amazing.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Once we are introduced to the all the characters I am going to guess survivors. I am guessing there are going to be six like last game (No idea if I am right or not could be less could be more) 
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MoonwalkInvincible posted:Everyone will live, especially the characters who are good and cool, because this is a happy game where nothing bad ever happens. It's in the subtitle. Goodbye, Despair Academy, hello Hope Academy!
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Oh boy, this is going to be fun. I'm finding Fat Togami way too funny at the moment and the Little Chef is just so adorable.
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Interesting. I can't wait for the character introductions so we can put some names to these faces.
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I really like the design of Mr. Lightning Eyebrows. All of the designs are good, even Fat Togami. I'm going to be sad when the first death happens, they all seem cool in their own ways.
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spd12 posted:The pink hair guy with the shark teeth is giving me some serious Leon vibes, which I imagine to be intentional on the part of the designers. There's an insignia on his chest that's colored exactly the way blood is in Dangan Ronpa. But yeah I got the same Leon vibe from him, but my theory is that this time the Maizono-type character of this game will sucessed in her murder plan!
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In other news... probably my favourite character designs so far are mysterious purple scarf ninja (from the little we can see of him, anyway) and Sharkteeth McPinkhair, although like I said before, I do like all of them a lot.
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I see windows and normal colour classrooms, I'm not getting that despair of being trapped in a surreal environment. Everything feels kinda normal like they could just leave but they don't really care enough to break out. Back in the old days you had your big metal door, bolted windows and funky classrooms to make the despair really sink in. This Monorabbit better start dishing out the despair to these kids because I really want to see them truly despair. That out of the way time for speculation, yay! I'm going with the computer simulation theory due to the weird glitchy type stuff. Though how does this connect to an island... Perhaps they rumble the ruse of this VR classroom almost immediately and wake up on the island? I'll save my verdict on the characters until they've all been formally introduced but I'm both loving and hating Fatogami, I find him hilarious but can't like him as much as his DR1 counterpart due to said hilarity.
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Mersenne posted:However, that pink rabbit... thing in the video at the end of the first update clearly isn't Monobear, which makes me wonder if we're actually dealing with two masterminds this time around. Obviously the only person who could pull off piloting and voicing a magical girl costume wearing, pink-and-white monobunny is our beloved Naegi
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Despite the game not even having started yet (if someone calls the plot after the first update again...), the computer simulation theory actually sounds pretty plausible (and less paranoid than Junko conspiracies). What would be the motive, though? Who'd be running it?
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Has the monochrome rabbit been named yet? Since we have a Monobear, i'm going to pre-emptively dub her Monohare
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Silhouette posted:Has the monochrome rabbit been named yet? Since we have a Monobear, i'm going to pre-emptively dub her Monohare
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The sad part is due to the stupid translation ROMhacking crap I spent awhile on, you know the hex in the intro movie? It's Japanese. They're two-byte characters, and a bunch are prepended with "82" which is a shift-JIS encoding format for Kana. I think hiragana, with katakana being 81, but I forget which is which and as I'm typing this, maybe the other way around. There might be a hidden message there, especially considering the sequence ends in a 0D 0A, which is an old-school PC linebreak... but damned if I'm spending any more brain cells on that. edit2: If anyone wants to transcribe that crap, I think you can put it in an HTML file, open with Firefox, and change the encoding to Shift-JIS to see the Japanese... It's been a long time since I did crap like this though. slowbeef fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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I spent the last couple weeks reading the first thread, and I had just finished it on Sunday. Now I have no more DR updates to read and I have to sit tight with everyone else and wait for update...  When I first saw the shot of the new cast, I was a bit taken aback. I thought, "Jeez, these designs look a lot weirder than the ones from DR1." Then I remembered Sakura. I think maybe I just got used to the characters from the first game to the point that they didn't look odd to me anymore. I'm sure these new characters will grow on me in the same way.
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Oh, yes. Oh, hell yes. I am going to love and hate this with a passion and anguish I have never experienced the likes of before.Rawkking posted:Obviously the only person who could pull off piloting and voicing a magical girl costume wearing, pink-and-white monobunny is our beloved Naegi
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Oh man we're back I am so excited and only 10 pages late! Ganbatte Oren!! 
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Autumncomet posted:I like the pun, but the title of the Polsy Youtube link said "Magical Girl Miracle - Usami" so I guess that's it.
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IceBorg posted:He/she is talking about the one next to Monobear right in the first screenshot. So is he. Did you even watch the video?
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suuchan posted:...Well, maybe 'annoyed' would have been a slightly better choice of words.  I'd almost try looking it up, but I'm sure I'd run into 15 spoilers in the process. I find it funny that "computer simulation" is, so far, a completely legitimate theory. In the last thread, Orenronen had to put his foot down rather early on because the speculation was hitting goddamn everywhere, and the focus had to be narrowed (computer simulation, robots, purgatory, everything). It's like we're back to square one again. Speculation: They're in Hell, and Fat Togami is what Togami's true spirit looks like.
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Rawkking posted:Obviously the only person who could pull off piloting and voicing a magical girl costume wearing, pink-and-white monobunny is our beloved Naegi So would that make Magical Girl Miracle Usami (Warrior of Hope and Love?) the anti-Monobear?
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IceBorg posted:He/she is talking about the one next to Monobear right in the first screenshot. I think that's the same one.
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Twiddy posted:The more things change, the more things stay the same. Ah, translation drama. Well that's because we actually have something to work off of this time around. There was the whole deal with the glitch visual effects, plus the cascading digits trope that's so relevant in that kind of setting.
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Mersenne posted:
Those are actually supposed to invoke oni horns from what I can tell. Also, that pose really doesn't seem the same as Leon's aside from the posture — they're conveying completely different emotions here. Leon's was mocking while Oni-san ( ) is surprised/speculative.
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pandaK posted:Well that's because we actually have something to work off of this time around. There was the whole deal with the glitch visual effects, plus the cascading digits trope that's so relevant in that kind of setting. This is one of those things that is supposed to totally pass you by when you play it, but with the time between updates in the LP and people scouring over everything it's almost too obvious.
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Waffleman_ posted:So is he. Did you even watch the video?  Yes Usami and the monochrome rabbit are most likely the same thing but in this case the name would be Monosomething, I think that was what Silhouette meant with his question.
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slowbeef posted:The sad part is due to the stupid translation ROMhacking crap I spent awhile on, you know the hex in the intro movie? You're right. Just transcribed a small part of it. Hidden message posted:ゆらゆらと言うよりは… If it's not spoilerish, would someone mind translating that? I'll try doing a full thing tonight.
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And here...we...go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4LpSzKnEtA A fitting song for this new thread and sequel, in my opinion. Now, as for the first post. Mersenne posted:The events of Dangan Ronpa 2 (perhaps even the first one as well) are a computer simulation, possibly run by Alter Ego/Monobear 2.0/some other AI. This was my theory too, based on the computer code title screen and the almost exact same intro of the main character ala Naegi before it collapsed into computer errors. Mine, however, is that the Monobear AI seen at the end of game 1 decided to run a computer simulation of the events that happened. When he got the exact same results, he got mad and started mashing personality traits and details around to see if it changed the end result. That's why the characters all come off like all the original characters were thrown in a blender, finely pureed, then separated into new masses and reshaped per what they'd become after the blending. I am almost certain that this cast is a fakeout, ala the Tanker chapter in Metal Gear Solid 2, and after the first chapter we will meet the REAL cast who's different. Or maybe I'm completely wrong. We'll find out, as like so many I'm in on the ground floor! Onwards to DESPAIR. Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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IceBorg posted:Yeah I did, and Silhouette was talking about the monochrome rabbit here: What monochrome rabbit? That's Monobear and Usami  v Oh, huh I didn't notice that. Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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Dragonatrix posted:What monochrome rabbit? That's Monobear and Usami Take this as you will. I don't know.
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