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The good news, is that Mr. Monobear's Extracurricular Lesson is no longer stuck in my head. The bad news is that it was immediately replaced by that Practice Lesson song. I liked that the video clip actually showed the classroom unfolding like a pop-up book. I wonder if this game still does the pop-ups for the island environments.
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BFC posted:Actually, are any of the track names spoilers? If not, would you mind adding the music of the game to OP as the LP goes on? Some of the music in DR1 was great but scrubbing through old updates in order to find a specific track was a pain. Well, for the first game seeing the soundtrack ahead of time did spoil Dangan Ronpa 1's big twist, so I'd say it's not worth the risk.
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FPzero posted:What does the "da" mean in Japanese? I feel like I've definitely heard this phrasing before, most likely because it's probably a very common word phrase. Ibuki's teary-eyed freakout right as soon as absolutely anything went wrong was pretty impressive. The lass doesn't strike me as terribly stable. Tits McGee seems like she'll also be filling Asahina's "I will absolutely come to the wrong conclusion every single time about everything" role in the cast. Given her name, accent, etc, I suspect she's similarly gonna be the perky one. I... don't know what to make of Togami. I mean, he couldn't possibly have been stupid enough to fall for the same trick twice, right? Right? He's gotta be some kinda descendant or or other member of the family or something. I guess we don't really know when, exactly, DR2 is taking place at this point relative to DR1, since it's entirely possible there was another time-skip (or, contrawise, wasn't and things happen during the two "blank" years.) It would be odd for Hope's Peak to be rebuilt and the world completely restored if it's post-DR1 and still relatively soon after, so I dunno... Also, the hex text doesn't strike me as particularly spoilery, lacking any other knowledge of the game beyond what's posted so far. I assume it's some sort of "Oh of course" sort of thing that would make sense later, but right now it's just kinda... some words.
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KamikazePotato posted:How well do games like that do on iOS/Android, though? I'm actually not sure. I know Square has tried to break into that market a couple times but I'm pretty sure they haven't had much success. To tell the truth, I don't know. DR on iOS has a lot going for it - it does IAP but gives you a lot of content (Chapter 1) for free. Plus it's Unity, so it's... you know, fairly easier to develop than doing it from scratch. But it's funny you mention because Unity also lets you output to PC and Mac, so a Steam version shouldn't be that hard for Spike/Chunsoft to actually develop, although apparently licensing stuff and getting it in the Steam store has its own issues - again, to be fair, I'm not well versed on it. Ekusukariba posted:If it is a computer simulation then that could explain why Togami is fat, he messed up his avatar settings, and if the Naegi is Nagito theory is correct then I can totally imagine Nagito as what Naegi thinks is a cool looking person Just to make sure, all these "computer simulation" theories are based on: - A possibly stylistic choice of a "glitching" vision of Hajime at Hope's Peak Academy - Some almost definitely stylistic choices of a hex dump and video game style graphics, the latter of which was in the first game (see: when characters were voted guilty) We don't have, really, anything to go on in terms of what's happening. For theories like that, they need to be based on what the characters are actually seeing and saying and doing; not just what the game is presenting to the player. (I don't think the guy in The Space Journey actually saw a planet and moon with big faces.) In fact right now, story-wise, all we have to go on in terms of connections to the first game are an overweight Togami and Hope's Peak Academy. Speculation is fun, but... we're two updates in. There's nothing to base anything on. AbusePuppy posted:Also, the hex text doesn't strike me as particularly spoilery, lacking any other knowledge of the game beyond what's posted so far. I assume it's some sort of "Oh of course" sort of thing that would make sense later, but right now it's just kinda... some words. Just to be clear to everyone else, the OP said the translation counts as spoilers (though vague and currently nonsensical), so please do not post it in the thread.
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Fedule's Wiveting Editowial Anecdotes Episode the Second Wet's tawk abowt Usami. Remind yourselves - if you've forgotten - that I'm not reading directly from the Japanese script. I get a flat translation and some notes. Here's what I knew, going in, about Usami's speech:  [She] tends to turn "s" to "ch" (i.e. "desu" -> "dechu"), which is a form of baby speak.Words and phrases can be - relatively - easily literally translated. Speech impediments, however, are a bit harder, because mispronunciation affects, and is interpreted by, different languages in very different ways. The most direct possible "translation" of this kind of speech in English would have been to give Usami a lithp - sorry, a lisp. You're doing the same thing with the letters (almost), right? "It meanth a thchool event where thtudenth go on a trip and perform group activitieth under the supervithion of a teacher!" Argh. This sounds less like babytalk and more like... someone with a speech impediment. Worse, it's kind of a pain to read. Words, people. What we wanted is something obvious and distinctive, that can manifest in almost all of her lines, and yet is unintrusive when reading. So along comes the "w" routine. "R" is one of the harder consonants to pronounce correctly at the beginning of syllables as it is - even English-speaking adults get tripped up trying to get the hang of the "rolling" R sound. Even the hard R sound is basically just a slightly altered pronunciation of the even more impactful W sound. To be perfectly truthful, though... all of this occurred to me after I started thinking about "rabbits" and "speech impediments" and almost immediately floated off to "Be vewwy vewwy qwiet! I'm hunting wabbits!" Bingo. As luck would have it, the same thing that causes those infants not yet fully versed in speech to have trouble with Rs can also be applied to certain L and V sounds, and turns all of these into Ws too. So it can be applied to lots of different words! The caveat, as always, is readability. For this reason, while quite prevalent, I quite deliberately made Usami's speech a little inconsistent (Saying this also excuses me from any accidental inconsistencies you may find! There are a few!). The idea is, she only W-ifies words she's emphasizing - typically key phrases or other focal words in sentences - but otherwise speaks normally. The result of all this is a speaking manner that very definitely carries across Usami's mascot-like demeanour but in a way that's a lot less likely to get irritating (and ruin the readability of otherwise perfectly good sentences) than W-ifying every eligible word in every line. Anyway, once this idea occurred to me, it was pretty easy to codify and apply. And, once I realized it would enable the line "It's a wuvly, wuvly animal with fwuffy, fwuffy fur!" and the horrifyingly dissonant pronunciation of "kiwwing", the deal was as good as sealed. Now, an anecdote! orenronen posted:
As explained, originally, Usami did her little song reference and then said "You know! That thing!". It was kinda cute, I guess? Anyway, I figured it'd be nice to do something similar in English, but, what song to reference? The immediate and overwhelming temptation was to do something involving Under the Sea. As much as it's guaranteed to be immediately understood as a reference, though, it's kinda impossible to properly tie in to the sentiment of "we are currently at the seaside". So it's out. And once that was out... there wasn't very much left. Also, I can't speak for the English-speaking world outside of England, but over here, we don't really have "government sanctioned Eventually, I settled on a line that can either be read as Usami being deliberately annoying ("where are we?" "somewhere!") or as a reference to Somewhere Beyond the Sea, which enjoys a measure of mindshare in today's gaming generation due to being featured in and in association with 2007's BioShock. Plus there's the whole sea/see thing, which, honestly, was an accident. Trust me - when I start deliberately making puns, you'll know. Next time: There'll be charcterization! I swear! Fedule fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Dec 16, 2012 |
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Where...? It's obwious, isn't it...?
Somewhere! Beyond the sea!
Can’t you see?!
Originally, Usami performs the first line of Ryuuha Hayashi and Takeshi Inoue’s classic government-approved kindergarden song
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What... is this game.  We have names for everyone now, but I'm going to wait for offical introductions because freeze-framing the video everything is gonna be a bit of a pain. It's also eerie how everyone is just so smiley in it. All I can think of is that Zeus/Nidai might be one of the first to go crazy matched up against Usami. But hey, if it's a beach, we've gotta have a beach fanservice shot at some point, right?  Now watch as it turns out to be of Togami ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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This game is going places already! By the way, from that update I got the impression that Chef... Teruteru plays Hagakure's role of plot exposition idiot in this game. I hope I'm wrong, because that might mean his face of utter evil may be with us until the end.
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Oh poo poo new thread! That was fast. Fat Togami made me lose it, I still haven't really recovered. I don't know if I will ever be able to take anything the guy says in this game seriously. Every time his screenshot or icon appears I just start giggling. Oh well. Lightning eyebrows is awesome, hoping he survives to the end. And your anecdotes are welcome Fedule. The thread is off to a great start.
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If I could make a suggestion, more warning that a Youtube video is going to contain interesting stuff that isn't in the update itself would be helpful. I don't usually click the videos because listening to characters talk in Japanese while I read the same thing in English isn't really my thing, but after the update people started talking about how some video introduced all of the characters and I had to scramble back to find it.
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 Just noticed that we still have our surveillance cameras (machine guns in case someone decides to swim away?) and announcements monitors, even on the beach.
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Dragoon Cody posted:If I can make a suggestion, more warning that a Youtube video is going to contain interesting stuff that isn't in the update itself would be helpful. I don't usually click the videos because listening to characters talk in Japanese while I read the same thing in English isn't really my thing, but after the update people started talking about how some video introduced all of the characters and I had to scramble back to find it. It's stated pretty unambiguously in the OP that all videos that aren't trial coverage are required viewing.
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Dragoon Cody posted:If I can make a suggestion, more warning that a Youtube video is going to contain interesting stuff that isn't in the update itself would be helpful. I don't usually click the videos because listening to characters talk in Japanese while I read the same thing in English isn't really my thing, but after the update people started talking about how some video introduced all of the characters and I had to scramble back to find it. Easy solution: just watch all the videos. Also looking forward to finding out more about Sonia Nevermind's name.
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Ah, missed that bit.
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Dragoon Cody posted:If I can make a suggestion, more warning that a Youtube video is going to contain interesting stuff that isn't in the update itself would be helpful. I don't usually click the videos because listening to characters talk in Japanese while I read the same thing in English isn't really my thing, but after the update people started talking about how some video introduced all of the characters and I had to scramble back to find it. orenronen posted:
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Fedule posted:As explained, originally, Usami did her little song reference and then said "You know! That thing!". It was kinda cute, I guess? Anyway, I figured it'd be nice to do something similar in English, but, what song to reference? Who lives in a classwoom wight by the sea? U-sa-mi! It bugs me that Usami's name is one syllable too short to work here, but this popped into my head immediately after reading the translation notes. I can't really think of any other sea-related songs that a lot of people would have heard of, but as you said, there's not really much to work with here that still makes sense in context.
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Haifisch posted:Oh! U-sa-mi-chan! There!
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Is there an easy place for one to buy the sound track to this or the first game? I'm pretty sure I need to give folks money for these amazing songs.
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I can't stop giggling every time Fatgami shows up. I can't wait to see the explanation for him.
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Waffleman_ posted:U-sa-mi-chan! Adowable, fwuffy and cuddwy is she! U-sa-mi-chan!
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KamikazePotato posted:How well do games like that do on iOS/Android, though? I'm actually not sure. I know Square has tried to break into that market a couple times but I'm pretty sure they haven't had much success. To be entirely fair, I think Square's problem with the iOS/Android market is that they're charging ten to fifteen dollars for their old games, which may or may not be correctly optimized - but you're talking anywhere from $9.99 to $16.00 or so in a market that almost exclusively deals in prices below the ten dollar threshold. Hell, the iOS market's flagship "serious business" title for a while, Infinity Blade, never sold for more the five bucks. I highly doubt Dangan Ronpa would have the same problems. Monathin fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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Really enjoying the editing anecdotes, Fedule! The Ws work well, I think; they certainly hold up interpretation less than a lisp would. I like to imagine that you had to say all of Usami's lines aloud to yourself, baby voice and all, to check where the W-replacement would work. (EDIT: This comment came out creepier than I'd intended. Whoops.) Rith fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Dec 12, 2012 |
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I know this is no "junko is an antagonist" from page 1, but stillMe, on page 1 posted:I bet they're already on a tropical island, but that pink bear set up a fake classroom to surprise them. Woo! I honestly didn't know that was the case, despite it turning out to be exactly true. I know you only have my word for it, but it really was a guess. I guessed based on the thread title, OP, and the fact that he heard waves splashing briefly. Although I was wrong about Usami being a bear, when she's quite obviously a bunny wabbit. Also holy poo poo Fatgami is regular togami after all!? And not-naegi totally is real naegi using a different-yet-suspiciously-similar name, calling it now. Why else would he assume they're going to be forced to murder each other?
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Man that opening animation was ballin as hell.
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I'm glad you went for just w's instead of a full lisp Fedule, I'm having enough trouble not hearing Johnathon Ross's voice in my head as it is. Also it is surprisingly difficult to think of songs about the sea that have entered the public unconscious.
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I like the Somewhere Beyond the Sea reference. It may not fit exactly with the fluffy kindergarten theme she has going on like the JP version, but it still shows a certain playfulness. I think Spongebob would be much more out of place. With this starting again and slowbeff maybe starting a 999 LP (the guy with the test post hasn't done anything after one month, so I don't know if that's still going on), this will be a good Winter for LPs. 
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See! There's not going to be killing on this island! Everything's going to be fine, these characters aren't going to die and it'll be happy and perfect! Starting with more Hope just means more Despair when we hit rock bottom.
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"My Bonnie lies over the ocean"? e: Strike that. "Bunny."
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Vexrm posted:Is there an easy place for one to buy the sound track to this or the first game? I'm pretty sure I need to give folks money for these amazing songs. The soundtrack for the game is available on amazon.co.jp. Shipping can be a little expensive (I was lucky to have a friend who visited Japan bring me a copy), but it's very much worth it - we're talking about a 3 CD soundtrack with more than 100 tracks. A lot of the DR1 music is also included.
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Oren, now that the characters have been introduced, any chance we can get a post with matching names/pictures? I don't think I'll be able to keep them straight in my head without a cheat sheet. It's interesting that the last game went out of its way to introduce all the characters with detailed profiles up front, while this game has you meeting them along the way. Makes you wonder what Hajime's circumstances are - Naegi had reason to look up his classmates because he was a bonafide enrollee, but Hajime seems a little more suspect.
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orenronen posted:
Wait. Why is the name of the song "Miss Monomi's Practice Lesson", when she calls herself Usami? Something is fishy.
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Miss Monomi's Practice Lesson
I highly recommend clicking that music link there.
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orenronen posted:The soundtrack for the game is available on amazon.co.jp. Shipping can be a little expensive (I was lucky to have a friend who visited Japan bring me a copy), but it's very much worth it - we're talking about a 3 CD soundtrack with more than 100 tracks. A lot of the DR1 music is also included. I'm going to Japan for two weeks with a friend over the holidays, is it likely something I could physically get in a store?
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Question, whats up with the shark teeth on Kazuichi Souda? Is that of some significance as a mark of a certain character type or personality? I've seen it enough with random browsing to make me curious now that it's popped up here too.
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sleepy.eyes posted:Question, whats up with the shark teeth on Kazuichi Souda? Is that of some significance as a mark of a certain character type or personality? I've seen it enough with random browsing to make me curious now that it's popped up here too. It's probably just a stylistic choice to make him look more like a punk.
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sudonim posted:Oren, now that the characters have been introduced, any chance we can get a post with matching names/pictures? I don't think I'll be able to keep them straight in my head without a cheat sheet. We don't have a sprite for Gundam yet, but I think I can do everyone else.  Hajime Hinata Chiaki Nanami Sonia Nevermind Akane Owari Hiyoko Saionii Kazuichi Souda Mahiru Koizumi Teruteru Hanamura Nagito Komaeda Nekomaru Nidai Ibuki Mioda Peko Pekoyama Mikan Tsumiki Fuyuhiko Kuzuryuu Byakuya Togami
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Hm. Come to think of it, if we're assuming an even 50/50 gender split here like there was in DR1 (if you count Chihiro as a guy), that means the York-alike is probably a dude too. I stand corrected, I suppose.
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Anatharon posted:I'm going to Japan for two weeks with a friend over the holidays, is it likely something I could physically get in a store? Definitely. If you're visiting Akihabara, pretty much any location that sells CDs will have copies, plus they're setting up a temporary specialty Dangan Ronpa store between December 22 and January 20 (with a 2 day new year break).
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sudonim posted:Oren, now that the characters have been introduced, any chance we can get a post with matching names/pictures? I don't think I'll be able to keep them straight in my head without a cheat sheet.
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DaveWoo posted:I'm guessing oren's going to update his "reserved" post on the first page with the character profiles at the appropriate time. And character art! 
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orenronen posted:Definitely. If you're visiting Akihabara, pretty much any location that sells CDs will have copies, plus they're setting up a temporary specialty Dangan Ronpa store between December 22 and January 20 (with a 2 day new year break). Oh god, if someone goes please take pictures.
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