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Okay, I was not expecting coach. Yet looking at him now, I actually see a whistle attached to that giant chain. Can't say I expected a gangster either, for that matter. Looks like he was just flat out called a yakuza originally... or a gokudo, rather? Can definitely see why that went to gangster then. ... I really like the design on his tie. Kinda looks like a bull head.
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Kuzuryuu reminds me of Tatsuya Ukyo from Yakuza: Black Panther It's probably the whole young guy with hair shearing who's got yakuza connections deal.
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orenronen posted:To expand on it even more, our characters do not believe they are currently in Japan. Well, yes. The only part of Japan south enough to resemble this is Okinawa (or possibly also the Bonin Islands), right?
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Dec 20, 2012 17:56
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I really, really, REALLY hope Nekomaru survives to the end. And yet as awesome as he is, Miharu is the character I'm more interested in seeing develope. It's my hope that in DR2 the characters, more importantly the SURVIVING characters are a shitload more pro-active in the plot than last game and given her display here, things are off to a good start.. It's furthermore my pet dream that after the killings start, a clique of 'investigators' form and I wanna see her be part of it. Hell, that may be what the camera gets used for: collective evidence.
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Dec 20, 2012 17:57
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I'm honestly not fond of how crazy and intense all these characters are so far. Compared to the introductions from DR1, most of these characters are just too over the top to really be interesting. I'm sure that will change once we've spent a little time with them, but for now it's like half the characters are Ishimaru.
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Dec 20, 2012 17:59
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SHSL Photographer sounded like one of the most boring talents in the game... Until I've seen her voice actor. She's going to snap sooner or later, mark my words. And yeah, Fuyuhiko gives some strong Togami vibes. This may be one of the minor reasons they've made Togami fat, not to mention dressing him in a suit of a different color. Having two lean unsociable heirs of powerful families in black suits would be too much. Did Nekomaru train Leon? I don't remember Leon's achievements in detail, so I'm not sure they mean him. And what is that LEVEL UP notification that we got?
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Dec 20, 2012 17:59
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Isn't the purpose of Hope's Peak to instill hope in people by raising narrow-fielded superhumans? If yes, how does a SHSL gangster fit in it? Yakuza doesn't strike me as the most hope-ly bunch of people, I wonder if he's going to be that honorable yakuza type hero.
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Dec 20, 2012 18:00
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Regy Rusty posted:Come on Kuzuryuu, don't you know that gangsters embrace their weird nicknames? "Baby-face" should instill terror into the hearts of all who hear it. His NAME is Fuyuhiko Kuzuryuu. NOT BABYFACE. <  > You remember. And you tell your friends. He's Fuyuhiko Kuzuryuu. Born to raise hell.apologies for lovely quality, that is apparently the best quality clip of that particular scene that Disney's lawyers will allow on Youtube SingerOfW posted:SHSL Photographer sounded like one of the most boring talents in the game... You might be surprised there! She's covered wars, you know.  Call Now posted:Isn't the purpose of Hope's Peak to instill hope in people by raising narrow-fielded superhumans? If yes, how does a SHSL gangster fit in it? Yakuza doesn't strike me as the most hope-ly bunch of people, I wonder if he's going to be that honorable yakuza type hero. Eh, the first game had a Japanese Hell's Angel in it; this is honestly more legit than that.
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Dec 20, 2012 18:02
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My immediate reaction to Kuzuryuu's official art was 'oh my God how cute', which would probably get me killed if I ever actually met him. No wonder he's so aggressive; it must be a hell of a struggle to make people take you seriously when you look so precious in your terrifying gangster getup. Nice to meet Mahiru after five fantastically over-the-top characters in a row; I'm looking forward to seeing more of everyone in this game (with the possible exception of the chef, who unsettles me for some reason), but the occasional Mahiru or Souda is good for balance. I was very amused by her 'Everyone else here's kinda weird, don't you think?' line.
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Dec 20, 2012 18:06
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Frances York Morgan is exceptionally rude. He's like small dogs that bark all the time like they have something to prove instead of bigger dogs that are totally chill because they have body weight to back them up. Mahiru seems almost too normal a person for this bunch. She could be the next Aoi, making it until the end or she could bite it early on with a personality like that.
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Dec 20, 2012 18:06
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DaveWoo posted:Oh boy, another SUPER-INTENSE character. Can't get enough of those. Come on man, he's like Brian Blessed mixed with Shio Sakaki. Give him a chance.
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Nidai is everything I wanted him to be.  Is it normal for a coach to be wearing geta though? I was expecting him to be wearing sneakers.Edit: I looked at Miharu's birthday, and I just realized it's very close to, if not the same day as Aoi's. Can't be bothered to dig up the DR1 thread to find if they're one and the same, though. ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Dec 20, 2012 |
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Hey Oren, I think you forgot to include the music links at the beginning of the update. I played it off my computer after realizing there was no music playing partway through.
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Dec 20, 2012 18:14
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New update and I'm already loving DR2's cast more because they're so intense and impressing . On a related note, I wonder if there will be a alternate ending to DR2 where you do get all the hope shard and everyone lives happily ever after. It will be not canonical, of course 
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Dec 20, 2012 18:17
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FPzero posted:Hey Oren, I think you forgot to include the music links at the beginning of the update. I played it off my computer after realizing there was no music playing partway through. You're right. It's "Beautiful Ruin [Summer Salt]" throughout again, and I'll add the link in a second.
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Dec 20, 2012 18:18
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EdgeryWorthy posted:I'm honestly not fond of how crazy and intense all these characters are so far. Compared to the introductions from DR1, most of these characters are just too over the top to really be interesting. Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Come on man, he's like Brian Blessed mixed with Shio Sakaki. Give him a chance. And we still have seven more characters to go.
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Amidst all the larger-than-life characters so far, Mahiru is quickly becoming my favorite. By the way, I just thought of something. I know someone already argued that Togami's 'Heir' may be a real talent back in the first thread, but since DRZero told us that Hope's Peak is run by a bunch of money-grabbing scientists, maybe people like Togami and Fuyuhiko really aren't chosen for their 'talents', and are just means for the academy to get more money?
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Yes! Nidai is still awesome. Are those things on his eyebrows just suggested-lightning-bolts as an artistic choice, or are they an accessory? They kinda look like they're attached to his head in some way. (edit: never mind, the official art confirms its an artistic choice. An awesome artistic choice.) And I get the feeling "Gangster" was Fedules idea? I would have imagined Kuzuryuu's title being "Super High School Level Yakuza" myself. Oxygen Deficiency fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Dec 20, 2012 |
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Just what we needed, a character who has no inside voice. Most of the other super-zany characters haven't bugged me so far, but I can see Nidai getting old if he doesn't learn to turn down the volume at some point.Oxygen Deficiency posted:And I get the feeling "Gangster" was Fedules idea? I would have imagined Kuzuryuu's title being "Super High School Level Yakuza" myself.
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SingerOfW posted:SHSL Photographer sounded like one of the most boring talents in the game... Until I've seen her voice actor. She's going to snap sooner or later, mark my words.
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Nekomaru Nidai is becoming one of my favorites, along with Souda, purely because of those lightning eyebrows.orenronen posted:And that art... That aura! If there's free-time events, I want to check his first! And Kuzuryuu looks like a kid dressed up as a gangster in his official art. Mahiru strikes me as more down-to-earth than most of the students so far. She doesn't even stand out much in her official art, which I found refreshing after Gundam's and Nidai's (as awesome as they are).
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Now we've got ZEUS, Napoleon, and the person responsible for Chihiro putting on a skirt. I do love how casual Mahiro's official art is. Everyone else's is some actiony or badass pose (including ACTION SLIPPING), but hers is just "Hey, can I take a picture of you?" It's looking more and more like Not-Naegi just has an inappropriate sense of humor. I hope Chibimi turns out to be adorable. "After we gather every hope shard by becoming friends, then we can leave this island!" Usami probably forgot to mention the part where after everyone becomes best friends, they get shoved onto the other four islands and are forced to kill each other, or else she'll go Night of the Lepus on their asses. Or something along those lines.
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orenronen posted:
I don't personally know any Japanese gangsters, but I don't think I've seen them call anyone a retard in any media featuring yakuza. And (at least from my cultural point of view) calling someone a retard in America is usually something I associate rednecks and fratboys doing, and doesn't have that odd respectable-but-violent air that Yakuza seem to have. Although, the might be entirely my own personal association that isn't shared by other American-folk in the thread. Unless it's the point that he's a gangster that is completely uncouth and dishonorable or something, it's REALLY jarring to see "retard" thrown in there twice.
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...Hey, retard. You have any idea who I am? Guess not... since you’re still here.
Hey. You two. If you're done... get lost. Retards.
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 And we thought Ishimaru was intense. This guy makes him look like a tame kitten by comparison. Of course, that's to be expected from someone who shoots lightning out of his eyes. Though Hinata did bring up a valid point: why is someone who looks like that a coach rather than a player? Perhaps Nidai once was an athlete, but turned to coaching after an injury. That sort of thing might end up being important if people start dying. This guy doesn't look like he'd be an easy target.  The SHSL Yakuza looks like a mix of Mondo and Togami personality-wise. He seems to have a bit of Togami's arrogance, mixed with Mondo's short temper. With the warning we got not to call him "Babyface", the dude's probably got a massive Napoleon complex. It'll be interesting to see how he interacts with the actual Togami. If Togami has mellowed out since the first game(assuming it really is Togami), it may help to contrast his development with someone who acts more like his old self.  At last, someone who's sensible! It's interesting to see someone else thinking about getting off the island besides Hinata (and possibly Souda, since he was checking out the planes and may have been looking for an exit). Maybe she'll be the relatively normal character who survives for a long time, like Asahina.
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Zhauth posted:"After we gather every hope shard by becoming friends, then we can leave this island!" Personally, I suspect that Usami's gonna be straight-up good and nice, but completely ineffectual in the face of a Monobear invasion.
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Dec 20, 2012 18:53
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VoidBurger posted:I'm curious if this is a localization thing, or if "retard" is in the original Japanese? It's ボケ ("boke") in Japanese. I agree that our translation is a little off, but we couldn't think of any better alternative.
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orenronen posted:It's ボケ ("boke") in Japanese. I agree that our translation is a little off, but we couldn't think of any better alternative. Boke gets translated out to retard or dumbass enough for that to be a viable translation, especially coming from someone who seems to have stumbled out of Kaitekyo! Hitman Reborn and is pissed about it. Dollars to donuts there's going to be a mystery that camera's going to be a part of and Photographer is going to have a "Yuu Kobayashi is actually mentally ill" moment.
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I like the photographer. The coach is a little over-the-top, though. The yakuza is the japanese equivalent of the mob, and I believe that in the yakuza, if you fail, you're supposed to cut off a part of one of your fingers as penance, which is what Nagito was referring to.
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The whole finger bit is very specifically a Yakuza thing, which is why a lot of older Yakuza are missing their pinkies, but the art and "baby face" are more associated with Al Capone style gangsters, so it's a tossup really.
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To retread old ground for a moment;dog days are over posted:I really like how all the characters have their own symbols, even if they don't really play a part in the story of the game. Our protagonist's symbol caught my eye; If you look at the full image:  Pay close attention to his breast pocket. That heart+key symbol is, I think, what his tie's design is a component of, not a skull.
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doomfunk posted:To retread old ground for a moment; Actually, it looks like the left side of what's on the bottom of his shirt. It looks asymmetric, but I can't tell what it's supposed to be.
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I thought that as well, at first, but the one on his shirt lacks the outer highlight line. With the heart symbol, it's small enough to where I can tell that there is internal detail to the body of the heart, but not what that detail is.
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orenronen posted:It's ボケ ("boke") in Japanese. I agree that our translation is a little off, but we couldn't think of any better alternative. I'm inclined to suggest 'moron' - 'retard' to me sounds like an insult between social equals, whereas I can more easily see 'moron' being used to describe someone you perceive as beneath you - but neither term is used much where I live, so I might be getting the connotations wrong (and in any case I don't know the connotations of 'boke').
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'Moron' or 'dumbass' (or maybe both?) should work fine, I think. 'Retard' makes for a somewhat... less than adequate translation in my opinion.
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orenronen posted:
I'm sort of confused by this. Why does Hinata think being a SHSL Coach is weirder than being a SHSL Light Music Club Member or a SHSL Animal Breeder?
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Nekomaru Nidai’s a "Super High-school Level Coach".
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drat, Nekomaru looks awesome. I can't wait to see more of him. Koizumi's looking pretty neat too, actually. She's not as intense as the other characters but she's not a doormat either. It looks like she'll be a good straight man to everyone's crazy. Also digging Hinata snapping at Nagito for being too upbeat. It's a good change from ever passive protag of the last game. I don't know a lot of Japanese, but boke means something like dumbass/moron, right? Retard is generally seen a pretty childish insult, more used by school kids and people who are pretty immature. Like, in DR1 retard was used for Leon, and I felt that was kind of fitting because he seems like a pretty crash guy, but I don't know how it'd work for someone Kuzuryuu. That's just my two cents, though. Whatever you guys end up doing will still be good.
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getitoffgetitoff posted:I'm sort of confused by this. Why does Hinata think being a SHSL Coach is weirder than being a SHSL Light Music Club Member or a SHSL Animal Breeder? He's having the same reaction as people in the thread: Nekomaru is this towering SHSL Badass figure who looks like he should be punching tanks or wrestling elephants and then it turns out his SHSL skill is yelling enthusiastically at people.
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Gabriel Pope posted:He's having the same reaction as people in the thread: Nekomaru is this towering SHSL Badass figure who looks like he should be punching tanks or wrestling elephants and then it turns out his SHSL skill is yelling enthusiastically at people.  Some of the characters seem a bit over the top, but we've literally just met them, and I'm sure once things actually get underway they'll tone down. That said, characters like Mahiru and Souda are nice to have right away, and so far Nagito seems to be a more competent version of Hagakure personality-wise.
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