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terrorist ambulance posted:There's a beautiful response in that thread about it being a cover for law schools having no mission other than bilking idiots out of their money, and some 1L is like "uh actually law school teaches you how to think in ways that are useful for a lawyer" bl1y is a p good dude. He's research director at lawschooltransparency and i followed his blog before that.
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:In the grim dark future... I wish I hadn't found this as funny as I did.
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Well, the fantasy football season winds down with a thrilling championship match between me and SV. Anyone have ideas/comments/suggestions for next year's LFFL? Anyone up for keeper league? Money league? Other than putting Evilweasel in his place, I wasn't very active as a commish (because I was too busy winning and making the championship game.) But I'd like to hear what the other league participants thought and what ideas would be good for next year. Don't be shy.
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terrorist ambulance posted:I ended up registering on reddit to answer to that thread, if it's all an abstract and high level troll I'm owned pretty badly Well as long as you read The Bramble Bush the part you bolded should be correct. Although he is wrong to say you can't change the facts. The facts, as matters of concern, are only ever changing.
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Petey posted:Well as long as you read The Bramble Bush the part you bolded should be correct. Although he is wrong to say you can't change the facts. The facts, as matters of concern, are only ever changing. I don't know what this post means
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:US lawyers only? Yes, though bar passage not required. Grads only at this point. I'd help you get set up w apt/car. 40k goes decently here. Cost of living is like a midsized city. Also your boss would be awesome.
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Abugadu posted:Yes, though bar passage not required. Grads only at this point. I'd help you get set up w apt/car. Someone in this thread needs to do this.
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Abugadu posted:Yes, though bar passage not required. Grads only at this point. I'd help you get set up w apt/car. What are the "exit options" like? Have your previous grads gotten anything good after clerking or are you looking for people that want to live in exile?
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UnpaidIntern posted:What are the "exit options" like? Have your previous grads gotten anything good after clerking or are you looking for people that want to live in exile? Of the people that come out, about half go back to the states after a year, and half stick around awhile, working at the local AG's or going to a local firm if they take the bar. It is tougher to do job interviews when you're out here for stateside jobs due to the time difference and the whole 'not being there' aspect. Of the last three that went back, one is working for his dad's firm, one is Biglaw and one is unemployed. Of course there are details about those that mitigate, but I'm working with a small sample size.
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tau posted:Someone in this thread needs to do this. If i hadn't started a new job 2 months ago I"d be all over it. I asked on behalf of a good friend of mine but haven't heard back yet 
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tau posted:Anyone have ideas/comments/suggestions for next year's LFFL? Anyone up for keeper league? Money league? Money league. I would have been more active with that on the line. You're a good guy and I trust you with the check so I nominate you to be commish again.
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Abugadu posted:Yes, though bar passage not required. Grads only at this point. I'd help you get set up w apt/car. Any chance it will be opened up to current 3Ls?
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mastershakeman posted:If i hadn't started a new job 2 months ago I"d be all over it. I asked on behalf of a good friend of mine but haven't heard back yet Check pm's
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No 3L's at this time because it will need to be filled by the end of Feb.
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Abugadu posted:Of the people that come out, about half go back to the states after a year, and half stick around awhile, working at the local AG's or going to a local firm if they take the bar. It is tougher to do job interviews when you're out here for stateside jobs due to the time difference and the whole 'not being there' aspect. Of the last three that went back, one is working for his dad's firm, one is Biglaw and one is unemployed. Of course there are details about those that mitigate, but I'm working with a small sample size. How hard have the people who came out found it to adjust to the locale? Clerking sounds great, the pay sounds fine at that cost of living, but the location gives me pause.
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That's kind of why I stress 'outdoor' kids, as it's the big city people that are the only ones to have trouble adjusting; few nightclubs, friendly and talkative co-workers or strangers. I mean, we have 90% of what you can get in the states, and most of the rest you can get on-line. Same restaurants, stores, etc. But you are a 3 hr flight away from any major city (Manila or Tokyo). It also takes some letting go of every-day contact with family/friends, except through email or facebook, unless you want to be Skyping from 5pm-12pm like our current roommate, which cuts into your social life a bit.
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Stop being xenophobic and accept people outside the US
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Abugadu posted:That's kind of why I stress 'outdoor' kids, as it's the big city people that are the only ones to have trouble adjusting; few nightclubs, friendly and talkative co-workers or strangers. I mean, we have 90% of what you can get in the states, and most of the rest you can get on-line. Same restaurants, stores, etc. But you are a 3 hr flight away from any major city (Manila or Tokyo). It also takes some letting go of every-day contact with family/friends, except through email or facebook, unless you want to be Skyping from 5pm-12pm like our current roommate, which cuts into your social life a bit. How are the girls
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sigmachiev posted:How are the girls A little tougher odds, as you're competing against both locals and military, who have better housing than you, but there's a decent amount of available girls in the marine lab at the university or teaching at the high schools. Some lady lawyers also, though dating a lawyer can be a chore sometimes.
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Abugadu posted:a 3 hr flight away from...Tokyo Uguu~ 
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great here come the bandwagon riding mother fuckers asking about guam now that its the hip new thing. abugadu, dont forget who was sending you resumes before it was cool
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So who billed hours today?
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Secret Asian Man posted:great here come the bandwagon riding mother fuckers asking about guam now that its the hip new thing. abugadu, dont forget who was sending you resumes before it was cool So far you are in first place, out of one.
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Mons Hubris posted:So who billed hours today? hi
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God, Biglaw sounds even worse than I thought, if all these people are billing hours on Christmas. Apparently it's full of Jews! Though not really, my small labor firm dad is Jewish and I don't think he ever comes in on Christmas.
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Mons Hubris posted:So who billed hours today?
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Sent you a PM Abu... my wife may be interested and I would totally move to Guam.(I think thats what we are talking about)
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Mons Hubris posted:So who billed hours today? Didn't yesterday but looking at long days on New Years Eve and New Years.
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Mons Hubris posted:So who billed hours today? Debated whether (non-urgent) work was a plausible reason to duck out from the in-laws, but frankly I'm too scared of the wife to play that card.
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http://m.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/04/the-wrong-people-have-stopped-applying-to-law-school/255685/The Atlantic posted:Among the many unfortunate developments in higher education over the past decade, one of the most talked about has been the law school bubble. In the heat of the recession, a record number of students decided that it would be a good idea to dive six-figures into debt for a shot at a legal career. Many were lured with utterly misleading job placement stats, as well as a stubborn misperception that law was still a safe career choice, that a J.D. even guaranteed a living wage. Once they graduated, many realized otherwise. 
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Petey posted:http://m.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/04/the-wrong-people-have-stopped-applying-to-law-school/255685/ Ugh why couldn't the smart kids have gotten the memo right before I applied two years ago in that peak application/LSAT year? If they're so smart, why'd it take them so long?!
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quote:Now, some of these students probably need to go to law school for the good of society. I mean that sincerely. A lot of them likely come from less affluent backgrounds, and will likely be willing to work for small firms and government offices that provide services for people who cannot afford to hire Williams & Connolly every time they need legal help.
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nm posted:I wish they'd stop saying this. It gives TTT grads that "I don't need to make $160k, I'll be happy working for [government agency]" line that is just completely false. Probably should replace it with “going solo.”
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Petey posted:http://m.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/04/the-wrong-people-have-stopped-applying-to-law-school/255685/ Womp WOmp. Well, at least the across-the-board -% is something to smile at, I guess.
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I don't know, those numbers look pretty good to me. I don't really know how you'd get below a 145 on the LSAT, so those people are probably just too dumb to be reached.
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Is there even a law school that admits 139s? Surely even Cooley rejects most of those?
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Adar posted:Is there even a law school that admits 139s? Surely even Cooley rejects most of those? Cooley's website says they require a minimum of 143. But if you don't meet the minimums, they might still let you in.
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Adar posted:Is there even a law school that admits 139s? Surely even Cooley rejects most of those? Their money is as good as everyone else's even if their brains aren't.
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nm posted:I wish they'd stop saying this. It gives TTT grads that "I don't need to make $160k, I'll be happy working for [government agency]" line that is just completely false. Agreed, kinda. I get sick of the "well I can always work for the government" line, however it does seem like if you do really well at your TTT then the government is less likely to care about school preftige, at least from my anecdotal experience. And Cooley needs to keep admitting dumb people so my single friends with bar cards and MSU degrees can keep getting laid in downtown Lansing on Friday night.
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J Miracle posted:however it does seem like if you do really well at your TTT then the government is less likely to care about school preftige, at least from my anecdotal experience. It's the "do really well" part that rules it out as a back-up plan, which so many 0L's view it as. Law school: Turning the intellectual insecurity of Millenials into cold hard $$$. Law school: A cure for narcissism that's 90% effective but costs $150,000 and takes 3 years to administer. insanityv2 fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Dec 27, 2012 |
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