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VogeGandire posted:poo poo, how could I have forgotten Zybysko/Gigante. Bill Kazmaier and Jushin Liger was another pretty cool team (this was Liger in 91) and it was also cool that they went over DDP (in 91) and Mike Graham. Then again, I think it was Kazmaier they were trying to push. Either way, it was cool to see Liger get the pin. EDIT: Just decided to watch it. JR called the team, "Bill Kazmaier, the World's Strongest Man and Jushin Thunder Liger, the world's most High Flying Man." So awesome.
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triplexpac posted:I love the idea of legit doing random drawings and booking around it. It seems like it would be a fun exercise for the booker, and for us fans we'd get one really weird show. I'd rather that once in a while than "can you believe that these two mortal enemies are teaming up? How will they EVER coexist?!" In my longest-running TNM fed, the equivalent to the Royal Rumble was an unbooked Lethal Lottery/BattleBowl. It was an absolute blast to figure out how to make the winner a convincing World Title challenger by the time his title shot came around.
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tzirean posted:In my longest-running TNM fed, the equivalent to the Royal Rumble was an unbooked Lethal Lottery/BattleBowl. It was an absolute blast to figure out how to make the winner a convincing World Title challenger by the time his title shot came around. I loved unbooking in TNM. It would give you some of the craziest results. I loved running an "All-Star" promotion of the best wrestlers ever and just seeing who would come out on top. Bret Hart was my Champion for six straight months and not a single match had the result booked for it. He was just beating everyone, especially Fujinami who kept winning number one contender matches. I also once had just a big mixed roster and nobody could beat EZ Money. I had to finally book him off of the title.
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Battlebowl was the best gimmick PPV if you liked really short crappy matches. The idea of a lethal lottery is kind of neat, but in practice there is never enough time or the teams just have no chemistry.
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:I loved unbooking in TNM. It would give you some of the craziest results. I loved running an "All-Star" promotion of the best wrestlers ever and just seeing who would come out on top. Bret Hart was my Champion for six straight months and not a single match had the result booked for it. He was just beating everyone, especially Fujinami who kept winning number one contender matches. I also once had just a big mixed roster and nobody could beat EZ Money. I had to finally book him off of the title. I did this, too, many times. But it would always lose a bit of its fun when I realized how much the varying quality of the wrestler exports affected the outcomes (Flair went like 0-30 at one point because his moveset blew and it was virtually impossible for him to win with the Figure-Four). The unbooked Lethal Lottery was my way of getting that thrill without holding my fed hostage; add 40 randoms to tag team matches, book a battle royal for the winners, and then figure out how in the hell to book Donovan Morgan and his 3-5-3 win-loss-draw record as a threat to Vader's title.
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Phenix Rising posted:War Games rules. Bite your tongue. Elimination Chamber is already his ode to War Games
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Welp, watchin Muta/Windham v Pillman/Scorpio. Muta and Pillman have a great exchange. Thanks for giving me something to watch thread!
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Oatgan posted:Elimination Chamber is already his ode to War Games Now how can that be? That was an Eric Bischoff innovation!
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Unrelated note, but this link posted much earlier in this thread still works: http://static.tbs.com/sports/thunder/index.htm
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Alright, we went in one direction with the Austin talk about WCW going on life support a little longer without WWF having the extra big star/using Ken Shamrock, which would have worked out fantastically as everyone is aware. I was rewatching Starrcade 97, Goldberg vs Steve McMichael, and I noticed something that could have gone horribly wrong, and sunk WCW even faster. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zWtvuLrpVDM#t=262s Goldberg basically throws a wild punch, as a green as gently caress wrestler, within inches of crowd members, including children. Say Goldberg brains a 12 year old on PPV, destroys his push in one swing. What does WCW do? TL:DR, what if Goldberg hosed himself out of his god push? E: Bonus points if you somehow work it out to WCW's advantage.
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Goldbergs win streak from then on is all 12 year old Make A Wish kids. JR resigns with WCW just to scream "REACH FOR THAT BRASS RING KID, MAKE YOURSELF A STAR AND HOPEFULLY SURVIVE CANCER" 8.0 quarters, Bill Clinton gives Hogan a Diamond Cutter for the show closest to the 4th of July 1998. Would they call it a "Bubba Cutter" or would they pick something way stupider. When one reads the tea leaves, the tea leaves read you.  The Fanciest Big Bad Booty Daddy. E: Is it possible to read something in a combined voice of Scott Steiner and Dr. Manhattan? Because that's kinda how it came out in my head. "Odds are just things are that stacked against you, particular differences in our particles, in the way you perceive your chances, things that make some of us freaks, and some of us fat asses. Fundamentally, though, at the cellular level, we are the same." I highly doubt I could make Steiner Dr. Manhattan in GIMP, because I suck at GIMP, and all other mediums of photo editing. cucka fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Jan 3, 2013 |
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[quote="cucka" post=""411132358"] Scott Steiner ... Dr. Manhattan [/quote] A live body and a dead body contain the same number of particles. Structurally, there's no discernible difference. But HE'S FAT!
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I think I brought this up earlier in the thread but Scott Steiner should have ended the streak.
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MassRayPer posted:I think I brought this up earlier in the thread but Scott Steiner should have ended the streak.
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To answer the question from before, the real names thing was probably because it's before the Internet was super big so you couldn't find that information out, and secondly because in the territory days wrestlers would change between regions under different names with different pushes and different gimmicks, so instead of saying. "Arn Anderson - ie, that guy who started in SECW and used to job in Mid-South for a while." you can say "Arn Anderson (Martin Lunde)"
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Lots of wrestlers never used their real names though, so what use is it to a fan to know that Lex Luger is Larry Pfohl?
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MrBling posted:Lots of wrestlers never used their real names though, so what use is it to a fan to know that Lex Luger is Larry Pfohl? Lex Luger is a bad example as he used the same name in WCW and WWF, but if you were a big fan of Earthquake in the WWF then you wouldnt necessarily pay any attention to "The Shark" wrestling in WCW. On the other hand if he was always called "Earthquake (John Tenta) and then you read a report that "The Shark (John Tenta)" or "Avalanche (John Tenta)" was in a match on WCW you'd know that a guy you were a fan of was on the show. Obviously more useful in indies/territories where a guy might have a half dozen gimmicks depending on where and who he was wrestling, but thats the rationale.
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Yeah I totally get him doing the name thing for guys who just got new gimmicks (like I mentioned the Zodiac). Luger was just the one that stood out to me, where I wasn't sure why Meltzer bothered putting his real name there. I assume it's just because Big Dave is obsessive and has to do everything a certain way.
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:I'm not sure what MDA means here. Muscular Dystrophy Association? Was wondering this.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Was wondering this. If they're talking exploitative carny bullshit I'd bet good money this is the case...
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Was wondering this. I'm honestly not sure. I tried to find the answer in the back issues last night but searching issues for MDA didn't help. If I have time I'll look a bit further back tonight. Basically WCW promoted that they would donate a dollar to some charity for every purchase of Fall Brawl. Dave hated how exploitative this came off and joked WCW would just raise the PPV price $1. I believe they actually did, and then aired all of these tasteless promos involving the cause.
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Dave on the board:quote:No one thing killed WCW.
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So it was The Giants smoking that killed WCW!
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:So it was The Giants smoking that killed WCW! The Newport Winston Order *cough hack*
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Smoking Giant was hilariously awesome and perhaps the best thing Big Show has ever done.
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I always really dug The Giant in WCW. Probably just because they had a million wrestlers so there was a never ending supply of people to let Giant squash so he always remained this insane monster who could only be beat by the handful of top guys. And this being emphasized by the guy taking his matches so casually that he'd smoke during them always just cracked me up. I guess I was supposed to be outraged he wasn't taking it seriously or something but I always just laughed and said "Yeah, he's that loving scary! Its that loving easy!"
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nasboat posted:Smoking Giant was hilariously awesome and perhaps the best thing Big Show has ever done. The Giant/Big Show's greatest moment to me remains his incredibly awkward introduction to WCW. "REMEMBER THIS?!" *throws shirt at Hulk Hogan* Well, that and casket-surfing with the Big Bossman.
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:The Giant/Big Show's greatest moment to me remains his incredibly awkward introduction to WCW. How can you forget the Monster Truck battle where Hogan tossed him off the building and luckily he hit the water so he could wrestle later that night?
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bobkatt013 posted:How can you forget the Monster Truck battle where Hogan tossed him off the building and luckily he hit the water so he could wrestle later that night? Here's a video. I'd been meaning to re-watch that as I recently parked on top of Cobo Hall and was curious as to how they set it up. There's a road between the Hall and the river, in case anyone was wondering. Weird seeing the Windsor skyline without the giant obnoxious Caesar's sign.
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I posted it somewhere else in this thread but in RE: to the monster truck thing, I worked for Bigfoot for a long time (the monster truck team that built and ran this stunt). Bringing up this stunt conjures up bad memories for everyone involved. The stunt was nearly impossible to pull off because the trucks constantly would melt transmissions and that shoot took forever. Monster trucks are hard enough to keep running with no other forces....being forced ram another monster truck is an insane amount of stress on the already stressed drivetrain. That's why the roof top was wet. No way in hell would this have ever worked if the trucks had ample traction. Both trucks had braces built that welded them together as well as hydraulic ram rods that would "lift" the front end off the ground slightly to make one truck lose traction (thereby letting the other truck push it). I believe 7 or 8 transmissions (takes 20-30 mins to switch one out) were melted during this shoot and all the takes were spliced together. The guys in the shop said WCW (Bischoff) was insanely hard to work with were not understanding of the engineering difficulty at all. From what they describe, Hogan and Giant were cool but the production dudes were jackoffs. When I read Bischoff's book last year I saw he actually mentioned how much of a pain in the rear end a certain monster truck team was to work with (he kept it unnamed). The guys got a laugh out of that when I showed it to them. EDIT - Here is the Macho Man truck was that was built but never ran because the deal fell through! A Bret Hart body was also being developed. 
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MassRayPer posted:The 7/31/95 Observer is up and boy was it a good week to watch wrestling on TV!
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triplexpac posted:I want that truck I will fight you for it.
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:I will fight you for it. Only if we duel with monster trucks
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triplexpac posted:Only if we duel with monster trucks I know some guys that could help you with this.
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I also know a guy that could help you with this! His name is ColonelJohnMatrix.
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Halloween Jack posted:Abbott was never actually great at anything, he was just good at pounding the poo poo out of deluded karate guys with no full-contact experience who thought they could win the UFC. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a handful of guys in the company who could outgrapple him. Excuse me but Tank went toe-to-toe with Meng for over an hour once, then fought Jerry Flynn to a stand still in The Block. Nobody in WCW could take him down in a fair fight.
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