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Was Vectorman a special chip game? I didn't think the Genesis had many at all, yeah. I love how that was possible with cartridge games, though. Shame it can't be done with disc games, but I guess maybe architectures aren't as extendable as they used to be anyway.
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Code Jockey posted:Was Vectorman a special chip game? I didn't think the Genesis had many at all, yeah. There's only one special chip and that is the Virtua, which was included in Virtua Racer--Vectorman was completely software. Interestingly, Virtua Racer will not run on a Genesis 3, but that doesn't really matter.
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Wasper posted:Of course Star fox will never work with a SEGA Genesis, but really, how many Genesis games had special chips in them anyways? I don't think I am following you? The Everdrive is a flashcart "line"; there are ones for the SNES, Genesis, and so forth. hitze posted:Oh boy... What am I getting myself into Hell's yeah! PROTIP: Those boxes are almost identical to VHS tapes, so they will fit swimmingly in most VHS racks. See also: Famicom carts and cassette tapes (I don't know why I am so proud that I figured this out; no one else seems to care  )
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Yeah there's just something that feels "right" about the SFC box size. It's probably due to growing up with VHS tapes, but I got my first SFC box a month ago and I loved it.
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univbee posted:Amazon seems to have Class 10 64 gig SDXC cards for $40 if you really want to go insane. Even if you inflated the entire GoodSNES library you wouldn't even touch that. I guess you could get really optimistic for more MSU-1 games to happen, though.
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I remember a lot of Genesis games (especially EA games) being taller than normal and having a little recessed yellow plastic part. What was that all about?
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Dross posted:I remember a lot of Genesis games (especially EA games) being taller than normal and having a little recessed yellow plastic part. What was that all about?
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Dross posted:I remember a lot of Genesis games (especially EA games) being taller than normal and having a little recessed yellow plastic part. What was that all about? Miyamotos RGB NES posted:I don't think I am following you? The Everdrive is a flashcart "line"; there are ones for the SNES, Genesis, and so forth.
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Pablo Gigante posted:A lot of EA's early Genesis games were unlicensed so they used their own cartridge design. Sega apparently couldn't supply them with a devkit so EA somehow acquired one through shady means and reverse-engineered it to develop games. The 80's was a weird time for the games industry. Funny, I'm just reading the horribly titled but pretty good book "All your base are belong to us", where they talk about how Trip Hawkins started EA and reverse engineered the Genesis. I think the guys behind the 7th Guest were being given a tour of EA and saw what they were doing, and called him out on it thinking this would get them a contract to make a game and hush up about it. It worked.
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Dross posted:I remember a lot of Genesis games (especially EA games) being taller than normal and having a little recessed yellow plastic part. What was that all about? There was a nice article in Game Informer about how EA got into Genesis development (reverse engineering the Genesis) and I believe the yellow strip was an advertising ploy. Edit beaten: JK the yellow strip holds in all the bits.
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triplexpac posted:Funny, I'm just reading the horribly titled but pretty good book "All your base are belong to us", where they talk about how Trip Hawkins started EA and reverse engineered the Genesis. He also did an interview with Retro Gamer magazine some time ago on the same topic. It's easy to hate on EA these days but they really did pioneer modern game development in the west.
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OSI bean dip posted:FF7 and FF8 for the PC were superior due to that aforementioned MIDI. Is there a way to play the awesome MIDI files without having to use a virtual machine? When people talk about crappy MIDI music, it is usually because the general MIDI soundfont supplied with Windows was horrible. If you are hearing primitive bleeps and bloops instead of CD quality music, this is the reason.
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No discussion of MIDI is complete without the ultimate MIDI accessory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSwqnR327fk
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OSI bean dip posted:FF7 and FF8 for the PC were superior due to that aforementioned MIDI. Is there a way to play the awesome MIDI files without having to use a virtual machine? MIDI support from Vista onwards was all but edited out of the OS, and is actually one of the few things that newer Macs (I think) still support better than the newer Windows OSes. What also doesn't help is that the AWE64 I mentioned earlier doesn't have drivers past Windows XP (and was an ISA card anyway, so good luck having a mobo with the required slots), and you're similarly SOL for the Yamaha XG stuff which was the next-best thing, but was usually in the form of a daughter card that clipped onto the side of an existing sound card (again, I think they did away with this well before the move to PCI-based sound cards). The best you can do, keeping in the spirit, is buy an M-Audio Uno, which is basically a USB-to-MIDI adapter and costs $40. On top of this, you need an actual MIDI device to hook up to it; this can be a music keyboard if you have a fancy enough one, but as far as designed-for-games goes, your choices are basically the Roland MT-32 and the SC-55, with the latter being likely the only one that won't sound wrong (the MT-32 used its own nonstandard instrument layout which is required for really old DOS games pre-King's Quest VI, with newer games like FF7 requiring the standard General MIDI layout). Both of those are basically eBay-only. This may still not work; I got my MT-32 working with DOSBox but never with ScummVM.
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Miyamotos RGB NES posted:
I just read where you quoted me and I had typoed, but I am assuming that you figured out I meant "Poor Man's Clean Room".
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univbee posted:MIDI support from Vista onwards was all but edited out of the OS, and is actually one of the few things that newer Macs (I think) still support better than the newer Windows OSes. What also doesn't help is that the AWE64 I mentioned earlier doesn't have drivers past Windows XP (and was an ISA card anyway, so good luck having a mobo with the required slots), and you're similarly SOL for the Yamaha XG stuff which was the next-best thing, but was usually in the form of a daughter card that clipped onto the side of an existing sound card (again, I think they did away with this well before the move to PCI-based sound cards).
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Also congratulations to all of you that just bought SD2SNES. Best investment I ever made, ever. Also I hope all of you play Super Road Blaster because the MSU-1 is amazing. univbee posted:The best you can do, keeping in the What the hell that is not worth $40. I bought one for $15 like ten years ago. Even the E-MU XMIDI on Amazon Prime is $25, and even then I'd just say get a cheap-rear end eBay one. Bing the Noize fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jan 10, 2013 |
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I bought an everdrive two weeks ago because I didn't want to wait for the sd2snes. Looking through the supported games, its tough to say I regret it. You can mod the dsp1 chip into the everdrive. Now to wait for it to come through customs ...
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Jordan7hm posted:I bought an everdrive two weeks ago because I didn't want to wait for the sd2snes. Looking through the supported games, its tough to say I regret it. You can mod the dsp1 chip into the everdrive. Now to wait for it to come through customs ... The regular Everdrive certainly is great. It's just that special chip games will never work on it, the loading can be a bit slow, and it uses that type of flash memory that only lasts around 10 years (I know, total  but some people have a problem with that). The SD2SNES is (hopefully) going to make homebrew SNES stuff incredible soon.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:I find that really hard to believe, Ubuntu's standard install can have you loading soundfonts onto a PCI sound card from the get go. You shouldn't have to buy a sequencer to get MIDI support, if you want it to sound like a specific synth, you just use the soundfont. It will sound exactly the same, except you don't have to send the audio back. Considering the small cpu footprint of software MIDI, yours is an extreme solution to a relatively simple problem. Extreme solutions to a simple problem in the $400 upscaler thread?  By soundfont do you specifically mean the AWE32/64 stuff, or something custom? The last time I looked into software-based solutions they really didn't sound good, but in fairness I think the last time I had a serious look was when Final Fantasy 7 and 8 on PC were new titles. ACID POLICE posted:What the hell that is not worth $40. I bought one for $15 like ten years ago. Even the E-MU XMIDI on Amazon Prime is $25, and even then I'd just say get a cheap-rear end eBay one. Good to know, the M-Audio is the one I'm familiar with because of it's use in Pro Tools (which would also explain the ), but knowing cheaper alternatives exist is good.
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I found a lot of Super Nintendo boards on eBay in case anyone is interested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lof-of-31-Super-Nintendo-Boards-As-Is-SNES-/251211165389?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7d5a2ecd
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Miyamotos RGB NES posted:The regular Everdrive certainly is great. It's just that special chip games will never work on it, the loading can be a bit slow, and it uses that type of flash memory that only lasts around 10 years (I know, total So uh, how long does the flash memory in the sd2snes last for? (Just got my sd2snes, but i have to wait two weeks for my snes to show up- life is cruel.)
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WendigoJohnson posted:I mean there's loads of people who will go out and spend a ton on NES and Super NES games like Final Fantasy I, II, and III but have no idea about games like Phantasy Star II and IV which were equal in quality to any of the Final Fantasies of the 16 bit generation. This opinion has honestly floored me. I mean, I've played and beaten Phantasy Stars 1 through 4 (and enjoyed them, even, except for 3) but they're nowhere even approaching the same quality as, say, Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger, or Earthbound. I'd say PS IV is almost, but not quite, as good as the second-tier SNES RPGs like Lufia. And I'd say that II is more along the lines of the quality of the lower, good-but-not-amazing, tier of SNES RPGs like Paladin's Quest.
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(e: got a controller from a thread bro thanks yall)univbee posted:Good to know, the M-Audio is the one I'm familiar with because of it's use in Pro Tools (which would also explain the No worries. MIDI is the simplest serial protocol ever and nobody should ever be forced to burn money for MIDI connectivity. I say this as someone who has boxes of MIDI cables and boxes. e: I might have one, I'll look around and PM you if I find it Bing the Noize fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Jan 11, 2013 |
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ACID POLICE posted:No worries. MIDI is the simplest serial protocol ever and nobody should ever be forced to burn money for MIDI connectivity. I say this as someone who has boxes of MIDI cables and boxes. I don't suppose you've got any spare usb to midi cables, do you? I want to hook my RB3 keyboard to my PC so I can play around with it.
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...! posted:This opinion has honestly floored me. I mean, I've played and beaten Phantasy Stars 1 through 4 (and enjoyed them, even, except for 3) but they're nowhere even approaching the same quality as, say, Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger, or Earthbound. I'd say PS IV is almost, but not quite, as good as the second-tier SNES RPGs like Lufia. And I'd say that II is more along the lines of the quality of the lower, good-but-not-amazing, tier of SNES RPGs like Paladin's Quest. This is the kind of argument that will cause fanboys to flip their poo poo but I will say that Phantasy Star II came out before the SNES was even announced. It's best compared to to Dragon Warrior II in terms of release dates.
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the_lion posted:So uh, how long does the flash memory in the sd2snes last for? I can't recall what the types of memory they are named, but the SD2SNES is the good one. Same for the RetroUSB SNES PowerPak. Unfortunately the Nintendo M82 uses the crappier type of flash memory for the boot up sequence so eventually they will all fail. kynikos posted:I found a lot of Super Nintendo boards on eBay in case anyone is interested: I'd be all over this but no cases/shells makes it pretty much worthless. However, I really could have used those about 6 months ago 
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...! posted:This opinion has honestly floored me. I mean, I've played and beaten Phantasy Stars 1 through 4 (and enjoyed them, even, except for 3) but they're nowhere even approaching the same quality as, say, Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger, or Earthbound. I'd say PS IV is almost, but not quite, as good as the second-tier SNES RPGs like Lufia. And I'd say that II is more along the lines of the quality of the lower, good-but-not-amazing, tier of SNES RPGs like Paladin's Quest. I'm not sure what it is about Phantasy Star 4, but I can easily put it in the top tier of 16-bit RPG Juggernauts as Chrono Trigger, FF6, Earthbound, and Lufia 2. I honestly can't fathom putting it in the same tier quality wise as the first Lufia. Obviously everyone has different opinions on this sort of thing, and I'm not sure what really draws me to really enjoy PS4 as much as I do. I guess it's a combination of the characters, the combination attacks, and the anime style cut scenes. I'm not really even a big fan of any of the other Phantasy Star's (played 1, beat 2, and 3) so it's not love for the series or anything. I can definitely agree with putting PS2 or 3 in the same quality tier as something like Paladin's Quest though. On a different note, I'd REALLY like one of those SD2SNES carts but man...so much money. I've got a baby due in a month so I'm pretty sure my wife would murder me if I grabbed one right now. One day you'll be mine SD2SNES.
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Got my new Trinitron hooked up and the scanlines are a-flowing. Quick question: where's the best place to get good s-video cables on the cheap? I'm thinking I need ones for SNES, Saturn, and PSX at minimum, possibly Genesis and DC as well.
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zenintrude posted:Got my new Trinitron hooked up and the scanlines are a-flowing. Quick question: where's the best place to get good s-video cables on the cheap? Hamburglar gave me his SNES S-Video cable but I got a DC one on ebay for $4 shipped. Don't have one for my PSX because I don't care enough about it. The cheapest S-Video cable I could find was shipping from the UK on eBay, so I'm trying to hold out and make just make my own or something. By the way some of you might be interested in what I wrote about a really cheap stereo amplifier. I have mine on my games table hooked up to whatever console is playing into some massive speakers. SPC700 never sounded so good.
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My Super Famicom arrived today! I am super excited to start checking this sweet sweet guy out. Unfortunately, I have no games for it. But it looks so pretty! I put in a Rakuten order for a few games and I'm waiting for Shiguyayayaya-da-doo-run-run to send me back a shipping quote. 
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zenintrude posted:Got my new Trinitron hooked up and the scanlines are a-flowing. Quick question: where's the best place to get good s-video cables on the cheap? Just regular S-video cables? I think I've got a bunch of them, if you want I can check the basement and you can have whatever I find for shipping, which I would assume was just a couple bucks.
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zenintrude posted:Got my new Trinitron hooked up and the scanlines are a-flowing. Quick question: where's the best place to get good s-video cables on the cheap? I wish I got a cut each time I suggest it, but Monoprice.com is the best place for quality cables from composite to HDMI. Shipping isn't free, but it is fair. So many similar sites have popped up over the past few years that there are plenty of places to buy from now. Here's a good one: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10207&cs_id=1020701&p_id=2402&seq=1&format=2
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Medullah posted:Just regular S-video cables? I think I've got a bunch of them, if you want I can check the basement and you can have whatever I find for shipping, which I would assume was just a couple bucks. Kramdar posted:I wish I got a cut each time I suggest it, but Monoprice.com is the best place for quality cables from composite to HDMI. Shipping isn't free, but it is fair. So many similar sites have popped up over the past few years that there are plenty of places to buy from now. I should have been more specific, sorry.  I'm talking about proprietary S-video cables for each system, i.e. has S-video + RCA stereo at one end and the system specific plug at the other end, not standard male-to-male S-Video cables.Thanks for the help, though! [edit] It looks like if I want a Saturn cord, it's going to set me back $37... that's gonna have to wait.
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zenintrude posted:I should have been more specific, sorry. I might even have some of those...I worked at Best Buy and got stupid deals on cables, so I stocked up throughout the years. I'll talk a look.
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Medullah posted:I might even have some of those...I worked at Best Buy and got stupid deals on cables, so I stocked up throughout the years. I'll talk a look. That would be awesome, thanks! vvv Not sure if they're actually "worth" that much, but that's how much they'd cost me with $20 shipping from England. vvv testtubebaby fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jan 11, 2013 |
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