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Double Bill posted:If you're new to fighting games and play mostly online, SFxT is simply the best choice (out of the Capcom games). UMvC3 is unplayable online and people who still play SF4 online have been doing it for years now, so you're not going to have fun with either. SFxT is new, beginner friendly, and even the "top" players are still playing like rear end. http://ggpo.net/
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Double Bill posted:UMvC3 is unplayable online and people who still play SF4 online have been doing it for years now, so you're not going to have fun with either. I really hate how prevalent this attitude is, even while I understand it. I learned fighting games by jumping into random GGPO channels and playing with guys who in some cases had literally decades of experience on me, with zero matchmaking or rankings to even it out. Yeah it was frustrating but I learned faster than I possibly could have anywhere else, and met and played against a lot of cool people who I never would have without the free-for-all lobby system.
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Double Bill posted:If you're new to fighting games and play mostly online, SFxT is simply the best choice (out of the Capcom games). UMvC3 is unplayable online and people who still play SF4 online have been doing it for years now, so you're not going to have fun with either. SFxT is new, beginner friendly, and even the "top" players are still playing like rear end. I guess this is relevant: I'm "new" to fighting games in that I've been watching for a long time but have just recently decided to actually get serious about playing. I have an understanding of what goes into higher-level play but I have absolutely no ability to put these things into practice myself. I chose to spend time learning SF4 because, to me, it seemed the most "general" fighting game available now. I can only play online, so part of my decision was the still-large community. I get my rear end kicked whenever I do go online, but I realize that as a beginner this is simply a reality of starting to play. I have no interest in SFxT and I've never played it so I can't comment on that, but I just want to point out that as a beginner I am having an OK time with SF4.
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Mar 5, 2013 11:58
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No joke, the realest thing you could do is start playing Super Turbo on GGPO. It's the best game for the best price with the most resources and the best netplay all at once, as in it's the best of each of those categories AND the best combined.
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Mar 5, 2013 13:36
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:met and played against a lot of cool people In fairness, this is probably a bit easier with GGPO than in the open seas of PSN or XBL. At least judging by the hatemail I get from people on PSN.
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Mar 5, 2013 14:20
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Electromax posted:In fairness, this is probably a bit easier with GGPO than in the open seas of PSN or XBL. At least judging by the hatemail I get from people on PSN.
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Mar 5, 2013 14:40
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Double Bill posted:UMvC3 is unplayable online and people who still play SF4 online have been doing it for years now, so you're not going to have fun with either. Regarding SSF4, that simply isn't true. There's still plenty of new and lower ranked players online to play against, on XBL at least. It may depend on your time zone or general location when you jump online but they're there so it's not like everyone who still plays it is a god.
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Mar 5, 2013 15:06
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I've played a lot of bad players* online in AE on PS3 too. * They still mostly beat me.
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Mar 5, 2013 16:11
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PLANES CURE TOWERS posted:Anyone playing DOA5? I've been having a blast with it lately. Moreso than any of the older ones. If you got cool stuff to share, then maybe you can post it in this thread.
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Mar 5, 2013 16:14
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Double Bill posted:people who still play SF4 online have been doing it for years now, so you're not going to have fun with either. If you're playing these games to get better at them - and if you're not trying to get good at the game then why bother - you will improve faster by being forced to adapt to players who are way out of your league than if you mash buttons with some other guy who mashed buttons. Every single top player that I've talked to or seen interviewed, when asked what was their motivating factor early on, will tell you the same story - invariably there was this guy at their down-home arcade who was completely unstoppable and they just had to beat him by any means necessary. Having to catch up to a player or a community of players who have years of experience on you is an intimidating concept but realistically it's good for you as a player. You will improve a hundred times faster against these types of players than against fellow button mashers.
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Mar 5, 2013 16:52
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Hey ya'll Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown is only 5 dollars on Xbox Live again!!! http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Virtua-Fighter-5-Final-Showdown/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802584111fe Buy this dang game, it's good as heck!
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Mister Blueberry posted:Also stating that it's the best fighter this generation is an obvious troll. But it's the best fighting game since 3rd Strike!
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Trykt posted:Hey ya'll Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown is only 5 dollars on Xbox Live again!!! The silly thing is Xbox Live doesnt allow gifting like Steam. They would have like 25 of my dollars right now if I could buy copies for friends.
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Mar 5, 2013 17:49
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Gutcruncher posted:The silly thing is Xbox Live doesnt allow gifting like Steam. They would have like 25 of my dollars right now if I could buy copies for friends. A bit OT, but it will be interesting to see what the next gen consoles will take from steam. I can't imagine they're not jealous of the effortless piles of money gaben is swimming around in.
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Mar 5, 2013 18:31
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Klaus Kinski posted:A bit OT, but it will be interesting to see what the next gen consoles will take from steam. I can't imagine they're not jealous of the effortless piles of money gaben is swimming around in. So far the Wii Us eshop allows publishers to put their games on sale for however much they want at any time they want. Being that its Nintendo, we can expect the others to do it even better. The only thing that isn't a slam dunk is the possibility of gifting, something no current system has at all except the wii. Not Wii U, Wii... Back on topic, everyone should own VF5 at this price. Everyone
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Mar 5, 2013 21:55
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Gutcruncher posted:Back on topic, everyone should own VF5 at this price. Everyone What if you own the disc VF5 but never could get into it despite wanting to?
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Mar 5, 2013 22:33
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Has anyone here had any experiences with the X-Arcade Dual Joystick? The local Fry's stocks it pretty often for $100, and it'd be nice for my friend and I who want to get better at fighting games in general.
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Mar 5, 2013 22:48
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miscellaneous14 posted:Has anyone here had any experiences with the X-Arcade Dual Joystick? The local Fry's stocks it pretty often for $100, and it'd be nice for my friend and I who want to get better at fighting games in general. Bad stick. Do not buy.
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Mister Blueberry posted:It has nothing to do with goon consensus, SfxT is a terrible game. It may be a bit enjoyable (for some) while you play it but its a loving borefest to watch high level players just block a whole round. I said it was the best Capcom fighter in a decade and I stand by that. UMvC3 is a clusterfuck and SF4 is a dull, overbalanced, flavorless grind with a duller metagame. "It's boring to watch" has to be the dumbest argument against getting into a game, but I guess that's what you'd expect from stream monsters, and it's a criticism that has been levied against literally every good game ever made because - guess what - games are boring to watch when you don't understand them. And give me a goddamn break, like any of you are glued to the screen to watch SF4 that isn't top 8 of a major. SFxT has more interesting general mechanics than SF4, more room for improvisation and creativity, more interesting and diverse character designs, more room to explore undeveloped tech and strategy, and requires more skill to play well. It's a great game.
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UMvC3 is a Bad Game but it isn't boring as poo poo like SFxT at least.
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Are you a pokemon named Stream Monster?
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Billy Gnosis posted:What if you own the disc VF5 but never could get into it despite wanting to? Final showdown is way better. Also you should buy it anyways because this 5 dollars will either be VF5FS or a couple cheeseburgers, an VF lasts longer Gutcruncher fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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Gutcruncher posted:Final showdown is way better. Also you should buy it anyways because this 5 dollars will either be VF5FS or a could cheeseburgers, an VF lasts longer Gold exclusive  I even had 400 points lying around.
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Periodiko posted:I said it was the best Capcom fighter in a decade and I stand by that. UMvC3 is a clusterfuck and SF4 is a dull, overbalanced, flavorless grind with a duller metagame. "It's boring to watch" has to be the dumbest argument against getting into a game, but I guess that's what you'd expect from stream monsters, and it's a criticism that has been levied against literally every good game ever made because - guess what - games are boring to watch when you don't understand them. And give me a goddamn break, like any of you are glued to the screen to watch SF4 that isn't top 8 of a major.
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Brosnan posted:Bad stick. Do not buy. Any details on this? I've seen a lot of mixed reviews. Most of the sticks that have been recommended aren't really sold anymore and hawked at absurd prices on second-hand markets, so it's been difficult trying to find one - let alone two - that are affordable.
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may contain peanuts posted:How can a game be overbalanced? The characters are bland and homogeneous, which is a valid complaint for SF4.
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Endorph posted:Are you a pokemon named Stream Monster? What the gently caress, I said the phrase "stream monster" like two times over three posts. Why the hell are you bandwagoning to poo poo on a game you "haven't played or paid much attention to in like 10 months"? You people are the worst.
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I'm not really bandwagoning and I didn't actually disagree with any of your points because for all I know Street Fighter x Tekken is a really cool game now, and I will probably give it a look again at some point. 'Steam monsters' is just a really dumb insult to use. Stream Monsters this, Stream Monsters that. It's basically a 'I don't have an actual argument to make so I'll say you Do Not Play Video Games, in this, a thread about Playing Video Games' cop-out. Also, 'you people' is racist. Some of my best friends are stream monsters.
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Guys, just dont respond to him and he will starve. I made the mistake of replying, once.
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miscellaneous14 posted:Any details on this? I've seen a lot of mixed reviews. Honestly, they are so bad that I am extremely surprised that they can still exist in this day of $100 all Sanwa sticks. No one who has ever played on proper sticks will give an X-Arcade stick a good review. Speaking of which, just wait for any major tournament ever and they will probably have a Hori or Madcatz coupon code to buy a top notch stick for $100. I think both companies' Soul Calibur 5 sticks regularly go on sale for $100 new. Also the Madcatz branded SFxT sticks are on sale a lot.
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Basically what you're saying is that everyone here who dislikes and finds SFxT boring just doesn't understand it like you do. So you're like Neo and Cross Tekken is your Matrix.
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Hey Periodiko do you play on PSN? It'd be nice to play with someone regularly and not just whoever happens to be in endless.
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Endorph posted:I'm not really bandwagoning and I didn't actually disagree with any of your points because for all I know Street Fighter x Tekken is a really cool game now, and I will probably give it a look again at some point. 'Steam monsters' is just a really dumb insult to use. Stream Monsters this, Stream Monsters that. It's basically a 'I don't have an actual argument to make so I'll say you Do Not Play Video Games, in this, a thread about Playing Video Games' cop-out. I mentioned stream monsters the first time because the whole question that started this was how it was received by the fighting game community in general, and the second time because I was responding to someone who said not to play it because it "was boring to watch", which is probably one of the most common criticisms of the game. It's no better than when people who poo poo on 3D fighters when they come on stream before Marvel or whatever. Puzzle Thing posted:Hey Periodiko do you play on PSN? It'd be nice to play with someone regularly and not just whoever happens to be in endless. The blu-ray laser on my PS3 died so I need to replace it, but when I fix I'd be happy to play, my tag is NPR_TerryGross. Periodiko fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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miscellaneous14 posted:Any details on this? I've seen a lot of mixed reviews. Madcatz TEs and Eightarc sticks are high quality and plentiful, and there are frequent sales on them during major events. The X-Arcade is not even in the realm of actual sticks that any reasonable person would use.
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miscellaneous14 posted:Any details on this? I've seen a lot of mixed reviews. The biggest thing for me would be the size. The pictures I see, you need to be pretty comfortable touching your game buddy if you want to use the x-arcade. Originally I thought of getting an x-arcade too because of the price, but in the end I just bought two separate stick so that I don't have to share a chair.  Personally, I don't think chipping out $100 a stick is that bad, especially if you want to get into fighting games. Minijaka fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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I hope Injustice is going to be fun to play online. I'm sure it won't be because MK's netcode was totally awful and watching little 10 second cutscenes every time the screen changes or someone does an ultra is probably going to be tedious but there's not a whole lot on the fighting game horizon at this point and everything new has been rubbish or has an impossibly high barrier for entry because it's part of a series that people have been playing for a decade or more.
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Periodiko posted:SFxT has more interesting general mechanics than SF4 Periodiko posted:more room for improvisation and creativity Periodiko posted:, more interesting and diverse character designs Periodiko posted:, more room to explore undeveloped tech and strategy Periodiko posted:and requires more skill to play well. Periodiko posted:It's a great game.
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The problem is that most Madcatz sticks aren't in stock from official retailers as far as I've seen, and everything else is upwards of $150. I'm not finding these $100 sticks people are talking about, which is frustrating considering how much of a jump in precision one is in most fighting games over a regular controller.
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Mr Wind Up Bird posted:impossibly high barrier for entry because it's part of a series that people have been playing for a decade or more. Just play a lot and lose a lot and get better, man.
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Brosnan posted:Madcatz TEs and Eightarc sticks are high quality and plentiful, and there are frequent sales on them during major events. The X-Arcade is not even in the realm of actual sticks that any reasonable person would use. The build quality is meh, the parts they are use are just cheapo modern Happ parts (if they're even that) unless something has changed. I had one loooong ago. They also took forever to get adapters for modern consoles, and that's likely to be an issue again in the future. miscellaneous14 posted:The problem is that most Madcatz sticks aren't in stock from official retailers as far as I've seen, and everything else is upwards of $150. I'm not finding these $100 sticks people are talking about, which is frustrating considering how much of a jump in precision one is in most fighting games over a regular controller.
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