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Cingulate: Oct 23, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

On 10.8, I'd like to hide the toolbar in Safari, especially when going full screen. However, the omnibar (is that the proper name?) is quite useful. Is there a way to
- hide the toolbar in Safari (especially in fullscreen)
- get the omnibar on a key press?

The way it works now is that cmd-L highlights the bar, but if it's hidden, that doesn't help. I'd be happy if I could hide it and make it pop up as needed by cmd-L.

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xie: Jul 29, 2004; I GET UPSET WHEN PEOPLE SPEND THEIR MONEY ON WASTEFUL THINGS THAT I DONT APPROVE OF

Is it possible in Parallels to have mailto links open Outlook 2010 in Coherence mode?

I was able to set Outlook 2010 (Parallels) as the default mail client and it works for Mac browsers, but when you click a Mailto link it automatically spawns a new instance of Outlook instead of capturing the existing one. If you click a mailto link within an email (in Outlook 2010), it properly spawns a blank email in the same instance.

Sorry if this is confusing, but we're at the end of our rope with Outlook 2011 - I've managed to get it to store archives in PST format on the mac hard drive, and confirmed their accessibility. We've determined that Outlook 2010 in coherence mode may actually be less hassle.

edit: Solved this by setting Parallels 8 to open mail in the Mac even though that makes no sense at all, it works

xie fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Mar 7, 2013

# ? Mar 7, 2013 16:38

Sonic Dude: May 6, 2009

Cingulate posted:

The way it works now is that cmd-L highlights the bar, but if it's hidden, that doesn't help. I'd be happy if I could hide it and make it pop up as needed by cmd-L.

The address/omni/whatever bar pops up for me with Cmd-L if it's hidden.

# ? Mar 7, 2013 18:41

Cingulate: Oct 23, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Sonic Dude posted:

The address/omni/whatever bar pops up for me with Cmd-L if it's hidden.

What! I'm on 10.8 running Safari in fullscreen mode, and I hid the omnibar via context menu on upper omnibar border -> hide. It doesn't work! I can CMD-L as much as I want.
Work when I'm not in fullscreen mode though.

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japtor: Oct 28, 2005

While looking for a way to play some games with a gamepad that only support the keyboard I came across Enjoy2. Simple but works well enough here, and free.

# ? Mar 8, 2013 11:16

fancyclown: Dec 10, 2012

I need advice on Snow Leopard vs Mountain Lion.

I'm going to upgrade my iMac early 2006 with a SSD, more memory and a Intel Core 2 Duo T7600 2.33 GHz cpu.
Should I stay on SL or go with ML? A lot of people seem to think that staying with SL as long as possible is the way to go. But how long until updates for various applications stop coming for 10.6.8?

There are ways to install mountain lion on older macs, described hereand here

Will Mountain Lion run smooth with a SSD, 3gb RAM, Intel T7600 and a ati x1600 (soldered onto the logic board) ?

# ? Mar 8, 2013 15:43

Don Lapre: Mar 28, 2001; If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

How much are you spending vs selling yours and buying a newer model that supports ML natively?

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fancyclown: Dec 10, 2012

Don Lapre posted:

How much are you spending vs selling yours and buying a newer model that supports ML natively?

I think I will spend at most 2500 SEK (swedish krona) ~$375-390. T7600 + SanDisk Extreme 240GB SSD + Kingston SO DIMM 200-pin DDR2 667 MHz / PC2-5300

I have no idea what you would get for my iMac with a 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo cpu.

For Mountain Lion you'll need a mid 2007 iMac. A quick search on ebay I see the 20" model for $600 (excluding shipping cost from United Kingdom) and on a swedish site I can find the 24" for $860. But those do not have a SSD which is included in my spending budget for an upgrade.

fancyclown fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Mar 8, 2013

# ? Mar 8, 2013 16:27

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

fancyclown posted:

I think I will spend at most 2500 SEK (swedish krona) ~$375-390. T7600 + SanDisk Extreme 240GB SSD + Kingston SO DIMM 200-pin DDR2 667 MHz / PC2-5300

I have no idea what you would get for my iMac with a 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo cpu.

For Mountain Lion you'll need a mid 2007 iMac. A quick search on ebay I see the 20" model for $600 and on a swedish site I can find the 24" for $860. But those do not have a SSD which is included in my spending budget for an upgrade.

I would be hesitant to buy something that wasn't at least an i5/i7, preferably a 2012 so you'd get stuff like USB 3.0.

# ? Mar 8, 2013 16:29

Haggins: Jul 1, 2004

fancyclown posted:

I think I will spend at most 2500 SEK (swedish krona) ~$375-390. T7600 + SanDisk Extreme 240GB SSD + Kingston SO DIMM 200-pin DDR2 667 MHz / PC2-5300

I have no idea what you would get for my iMac with a 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo cpu.

For Mountain Lion you'll need a mid 2007 iMac. A quick search on ebay I see the 20" model for $600 (excluding shipping cost from United Kingdom) and on a swedish site I can find the 24" for $860. But those do not have a SSD which is included in my spending budget for an upgrade.

That seems like a lot of money to throw into a 7 year old computer. Seems like a waste.

# ? Mar 8, 2013 16:36

fancyclown: Dec 10, 2012

Bob Morales posted:

I would be hesitant to buy something that wasn't at least an i5/i7, preferably a 2012 so you'd get stuff like USB 3.0.

The T7600 is the most my model iMac can take.

# ? Mar 8, 2013 16:37

fancyclown: Dec 10, 2012

Haggins posted:

That seems like a lot of money to throw into a 7 year old computer. Seems like a waste.

It's been working amazing for me all these years and can do all I need still. The only minor thing is that I have to boot into Windows to playback full Blu-Rays. I have a crystalhd card installed and the drivers work better in windows than OSX for some reason. If I update the cpu and replace the HDD with a SSD i figured i could use this machine for a couple more years. Still alot cheaper than buying a completely new one?

# ? Mar 8, 2013 16:42

Jose Oquendo: Jun 20, 2004; Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

At work I had the same iMac. Lion ran like dogshit on it. I can't imagine what ML would do. Just sell it buy a new one. Your computer is 7 years old. It's way past its expiration date.

# ? Mar 8, 2013 16:54

echobucket: Aug 19, 2004

fancyclown posted:

I need advice on Snow Leopard vs Mountain Lion.

I'm going to upgrade my iMac early 2006 with a SSD, more memory and a Intel Core 2 Duo T7600 2.33 GHz cpu.
Should I stay on SL or go with ML? A lot of people seem to think that staying with SL as long as possible is the way to go. But how long until updates for various applications stop coming for 10.6.8?

There are ways to install mountain lion on older macs, described hereand here

Will Mountain Lion run smooth with a SSD, 3gb RAM, Intel T7600 and a ati x1600 (soldered onto the logic board) ?

If you do this, I'd like a report on how well it performs. My parent's have a white 24" 2006 iMac and I was thinking of getting them an SSD.

# ? Mar 8, 2013 17:01

Binary Badger: Oct 11, 2005; Trolling Link for a decade

The SSD isn't going to cure all the ills. Mountain Lion is heavily dependent on the newer GPUs to buffer most of the graphics and windows; when it sees it has no drivers for the available hardware it'll switch to software rendering and everything will run like molasses at the South Pole.

One thing I will say about the 2006 iMac: I also happen to be running BOINC/Einstein@Home on a 20-inch iMac 2006 with the 2.33 GHz (T7600) option; it actually (computationally) thrashes its direct successor, the T7700 on an iMac 21-inch 2007 that has a faster system bus. Average of 2200 work units for the older iMac vs. 1700 for the newer, and both have their RAM maxed out. And it's 2.33 GHz on the 2006 iMac vs. 2.4 GHz on the 2007, 667 MHz system bus vs. 800 MHz also. Both running Lion, too. Beats me, I can't figure it out either.

Very anecdotal evidence, but if all you plan to do is use it as a BOINC client then I'd say it'd be worth it to update. But only to Lion- Mountain Lion's not really optimized for the older machines for reasons stated above.

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Mar 8, 2013

# ? Mar 8, 2013 17:33

KarmaticStylee: Apr 21, 2007; Aaaaaughibbrgubugbugrguburgle!

I let a friend borrow my mac and I'm afraid he installed junk on it... Being new to mac, is this like Windows where I need to be freaking out and scanning everything? Re-formatting?

# ? Mar 8, 2013 18:54

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

KarmaticStylee posted:

I let a friend borrow my mac and I'm afraid he installed junk on it... Being new to mac, is this like Windows where I need to be freaking out and scanning everything? Re-formatting?

Almost definitely not. Do you just have new applications installed or are there things running when you log in?

Unwanted applications you can just drag to the Trash. Programs running at login can hide in a few different places:

Most auto-launching software you should be able to disable by going to System Preferences > Users & Groups > Login Items. Note that the ticky box here does not disable a program, it just auto-hides its window - highlight anything you don't want running and click the minus button. (This won't uninstall the program, just stops it from running at login).
Some other programs may put entries in ~/Library/LaunchAgents - press shift-command-G from Finder and paste that address to get there quickly. It's normal to have some items in there, post a screenshot or Google the names of files there to find out if you want to keep them (or it may be obvious from the name).
You might also have (wanted and/or unwanted) entries in /Library/LaunchAgents (note the lack of ~) and /Library/LaunchDaemons. Same as above to find out if you want these or not.

Note that while you won't break anything important from cleaning out those directories you might stop programs you want from running at startup if you do (e.g. things like Evernote or Dropbox). So check before you wipe everything.

Also! In System Prefences > Users & Groups you can enable a Guest user so that you can let friends use your computer without fear of them installing junk software, posting rude updates to your Facebook, finding your hentai porn stash, etc.

# ? Mar 8, 2013 20:24

some kinda jackal: Feb 25, 2003; �
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fancyclown posted:

Will Mountain Lion run smooth with a SSD, 3gb RAM, Intel T7600 and a ati x1600 (soldered onto the logic board) ?

The X1600 will probably feel like a slideshow when moving around desktops, fullscreen apps, etc. 3GB RAM will also probably be a knock against the system. I know MBA systems ship with 4GB, but that is realistically the least amount of memory I would put into a machine these days, and even then I would feel incredibly crippled with less than 6 or 8. Having an SSD means hitting swap might not be SUPER painful, but unless you're using this iMac for the simplest of web browsing you will be hitting swap and it will likely be noticeable.

I'd have to echo the sentiment that it's probably not worth the investment. I know it's tempting to just throw a little bit of money at a problem instead of spending a (relative) lot of money to do it right -- I'm very guilty of that myself -- but this is one where I would probably keep the credit card in my wallet.

I always hesitate to bring this up in the actual MacOS thread, but if you're looking for a budget solution then you can always try to build a Hackintosh. You can put together a fairly decent i3 mini-ATX computer that will likely thrash what you've got in mind for about $470 before monitor, and that's SSD included. I'm not saying that's a great idea for everyone -- some people don't like fiddling with their stuff and just want a Mac that works -- but if you're on a budget and want a good, fast platform for MacOS then that's an option.

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Mar 8, 2013

# ? Mar 8, 2013 20:44

KarmaticStylee: Apr 21, 2007; Aaaaaughibbrgubugbugrguburgle!

TACD posted:

Almost definitely not. Do you just have new applications installed or are there things running when you log in?

Only new applications installed and thanks a lot for the reply!

# ? Mar 8, 2013 20:46

fancyclown: Dec 10, 2012

Martytoof posted:

seemingly wise words

Alright then, I will take a step back and consider my options. I'm probably waaay to stupid to build a working Hackintosh though, a faulty one, yes, but a working one? I don't know.

Thanks for the replies people!

# ? Mar 8, 2013 21:00

taint toucher: Sep 23, 2004

fancyclown posted:

Alright then, I will take a step back and consider my options. I'm probably waaay to stupid to build a working Hackintosh though, a faulty one, yes, but a working one? I don't know.

Thanks for the replies people!

If you can put together Lego and can follow a list of instructions you can set up a hackintosh nowadays.

# ? Mar 8, 2013 21:31

japtor: Oct 28, 2005

KarmaticStylee posted:

Only new applications installed and thanks a lot for the reply!

For future reference, other than turning on the guest account, you can also make a plain user account in case they need to save files and stuff across logouts/reboots (while the guest account resets everything to a fresh state). They'll be able to do stuff within their own space but limit what they can do with regards to the global system.

fancyclown posted:

Alright then, I will take a step back and consider my options. I'm probably waaay to stupid to build a working Hackintosh though, a faulty one, yes, but a working one? I don't know.

Thanks for the replies people!

How much are Mac minis where you are? Farthest back I'd suggest is the 2009 model, while ideally you'd be looking at 2011-12 models (for the Sandy/Ivy Bridge CPU bump).

Somewhat related, anyone hear about this before? ~~Supposedly Apple is running~~ an eBay store with better deals than their refurb store:
http://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/08/alleged-apple-ebay-store-offers-better-deals-than-apple-refurb-store/
(...but the negative feedback would make me wary :tinfoil:

, then again the comments mention refurb boxes and 1 year warranties when they checked serials)

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japtor fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Mar 8, 2013

# ? Mar 8, 2013 22:47

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Action Jackson! posted:

If you can put together Lego and can follow a list of instructions you can set up a hackintosh nowadays.

Maybe not quite that level of ease, but for someone that can hack an iMac with a newer CPU and putting a H.264 decoding card into the AirPort slot is definitely more than capable!

# ? Mar 9, 2013 03:40

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

Action Jackson! posted:

If you can put together Lego and can follow a list of instructions you can set up a hackintosh nowadays.

Yeah, this is a slight exaggeration, but just double check the instructions and don't shuffle your feet on shag carpet or something while you're working.

# ? Mar 10, 2013 00:30

Haggins: Jul 1, 2004

fleshweasel posted:

Yeah, this is a slight exaggeration, but just double check the instructions and don't shuffle your feet on shag carpet or something while you're working.

Not only that but make sure you discharge yourself on a piece of metal periodically. ESD is worse in the winter with low humidity.

# ? Mar 10, 2013 21:58

taint toucher: Sep 23, 2004

fleshweasel posted:

Yeah, this is a slight exaggeration, but just double check the instructions and don't shuffle your feet on shag carpet or something while you're working.

I admit some slight exaggeration but sites like Tonymacx86 have really good build lists that are fully compatible and work great. I had my wife's hackintosh set up without any issues within a couple of hours. The biggest thing to remember is to just stick to the parts recommendations for motherboard/CPU/graphics and try to not make any substitutions there.

# ? Mar 10, 2013 22:12

Toe Rag: Aug 29, 2005

Is there a way I can clean this menu up? I don't have multiple versions installs of the listed software, so I'm not sure why multiple show up.

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# ? Mar 10, 2013 22:53

101: Oct 15, 2012; Vault Dweller

Toe Rag posted:

Is there a way I can clean this menu up? I don't have multiple versions installs of the listed software, so I'm not sure why multiple show up.

Had to do this last night.

Assuming you're on 10.5+ enter this into Terminal

code:

/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister
 -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user

# ? Mar 10, 2013 22:55

Grace Baiting: Jul 20, 2012; Audi famam illius;
Cucurrit quaeque
Tetigit destruens.

Chuck Bartowski posted:

Had to do this last night.

Assuming you're on 10.5+ enter this into Terminal
code:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister
 -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user

Beaten on the actual command, but you can also do this:

code:

alias fixopenwith='/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister
     -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user'

...and thence just use your shiny new command fixopenwith if/when the Open With database clutters itself up with duplicate bullshit! (Note that each of these commands should be a single line.)

You'll also need to relaunch the Finder to complete the fixing (restart, logout+login, or hold option and rightclick on the Finder in the Dock and choose "Relaunch").

# ? Mar 10, 2013 23:05

Izz: May 1, 2006

I'm wanting to record some of my guild's raids in World of Warcraft; video with Mumble and my microphone. However when I record it records everything that my microphone picks up, not just what I transmit on Mumble when pressing my press-to-talk hotkey. I found a couple of system-wide push-to-talk apps (Shush and Push To Talk) but neither of these allow me to use the side button of my mouse as the push-to-talk hotkey. I've tried macroing my mouse button to a keybind that either of those apps could use via Cyborg's software for my RAT7 mouse, but that hasn't played well with Mumble. Does anyone know any alternative apps that will do what I require?

# ? Mar 11, 2013 19:43

evil_bunnY: Apr 2, 2003

Can you set up a streaming channel on mumble server side and record that?

# ? Mar 11, 2013 20:11

Toe Rag: Aug 29, 2005

Chuck Bartowski posted:

Had to do this last night.

Assuming you're on 10.5+ enter this into Terminal
code:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister
 -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user

Had to relaunch Finder afterwords, but that did the trick! Thanks

# ? Mar 12, 2013 03:04

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Izz posted:

I'm wanting to record some of my guild's raids in World of Warcraft; video with Mumble and my microphone. However when I record it records everything that my microphone picks up, not just what I transmit on Mumble when pressing my press-to-talk hotkey. I found a couple of system-wide push-to-talk apps (Shush and Push To Talk) but neither of these allow me to use the side button of my mouse as the push-to-talk hotkey. I've tried macroing my mouse button to a keybind that either of those apps could use via Cyborg's software for my RAT7 mouse, but that hasn't played well with Mumble. Does anyone know any alternative apps that will do what I require?

Mumble can record audio on its own.

# ? Mar 12, 2013 04:24

Computer Serf: May 14, 2005; Buglord

following this guide here, i've been attempting to configure a locked down 'trap partition' in case of theft.

i'm having trouble when it comes to creating a new 'invisible' admin account in the terminal and then accessing it through the limited user account in terminal to delete the visible admin account...

code:

sudo dscl . create /Groups/YOUR_NEW_USER_NAME
sudo dscl . create /Groups/YOUR_NEW_USER_NAME PrimaryGroupID 400
sudo dscl . create /Users/YOUR_NEW_USER_NAME PrimaryGroupID 400
sudo dscl . create /Users/YOUR_NEW_USER_NAME UniqueID 400
sudo dscl . create /Users/YOUR_NEW_USER_NAME UserShell /bin/bash
sudo dscl . passwd /Users/YOUR_NEW_USER_NAME YOUR_USER_PASSWORD
sudo dscl . append /Groups/YOUR_NEW_USER_NAME GroupMembership 400
sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow Hide500Users -bool TRUE
sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow HiddenUsersList -array YOUR_NEW_USER_NAME
sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow SHOWOTHERUSERS_MANAGED -bool FALSE

# ? Mar 12, 2013 09:15

LASER BEAM DREAM: Nov 3, 2005; Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?

Is there a decent bandwidth monitoring program available? I'm looking for something to run when I have my MacBook tethered to my phone so I don't overdo it with video streaming.

# ? Mar 12, 2013 15:35

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

LASER BEAM DREAM posted:

Is there a decent bandwidth monitoring program available? I'm looking for something to run when I have my MacBook tethered to my phone so I don't overdo it with video streaming.

Activity monitor has a 'network' tab

# ? Mar 12, 2013 15:44

LASER BEAM DREAM: Nov 3, 2005; Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?

Bob Morales posted:

Activity monitor has a 'network' tab

That's what I've been doing so far, but I was looking for something more session oriented. Since I never reboot my activity monitor is sitting at around 50GB. I could log my start and end points, but that kind of defeats the purpose.

# ? Mar 12, 2013 16:11