|
BrianWilly posted:Is it just me or does Ashley's face somehow look better in ME1 as well? Most of the ME1 faces don't stand up very well nowadays, but Ashley's always felt more expressive in ME1 despite her ME3 face being obviously more detailed. Ashley in ME1 actually looked like a soldier and not Space Marine Barbie. Actually, the exact words used in the official art book are "we let her hair down and gave her sex appeal".  
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 01:48
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 07:59 |
|
|
I didn't mind the long hair so much, but giving her a mini-skirt (at least you didn't have to use that outfit) and apparently having her constantly use lip-gloss was pretty depressing. I legitimately thought she was an oddly re-modeled Miranda the first time I saw her in ME3.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 01:53
|
|
|
Ashley and Allers both look like they've been repeatedly stunned by bees.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 02:35
|
|
|
Just a quick note that if you're replaying ME1 like I am right now, do Bring Down the Sky as soon as you leave Citadel. - You'll gain like 5 levels minimum - You get a massive Paragon/Renegade boost - You can get a decent Biotic Amp (on the body of one of the Engineers) - You can get just about the best Omni-Tool in the entire game (give it to Tali and let her kill all the things with her now nonexistant cooldowns) - You get to shoot Batarians
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 03:05
|
|
|
I liked Ashley's face back before Mass Effect 1 was released, but everyone complained about her looking too 'mannish'.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 03:10
|
|
|
Dan Didio posted:I liked Ashley's face back before Mass Effect 1 was released, but everyone complained about her looking too 'mannish'. Reminds me of the numerous mods for DA2 to make Aveline 'prettier'.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 03:16
|
|
|
Dan Didio posted:I liked Ashley's face back before Mass Effect 1 was released, but everyone complained about her looking too 'mannish'. I think she looks fine in 1, but in some scenes her lips really do look weirdly big. Kaidan is a handsome fellow and I will hear nothing bad said about him. 
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 04:01
|
|
|
precision posted:I think she looks fine in 1, but in some scenes her lips really do look weirdly big. Yeah, they changed her face from how it was in some pre-release materials because people complained. Ashley's gone through three or four faces at this point.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 04:08
|
|
|
I'm a little disappointed they never bring up Ashley's faith again in 3. I thought the conversation you have with her about religion in 1 was pretty well done (unless I'm totally mis-remembering it).
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 04:29
|
|
|
PunkBoy posted:I'm a little disappointed they never bring up Ashley's faith again in 3. I thought the conversation you have with her about religion in 1 was pretty well done (unless I'm totally mis-remembering it). There are conversations with Mordin in 2 and Padak Wiks in 3 about spirituality that are just as good, though.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 04:33
|
|
|
precision posted:There are conversations with Mordin in 2 and Padak Wiks in 3 about spirituality that are just as good, though. Hm, been a while since I played 2, but I probably did enjoy the Mordin ones. Never did hear the Wiks one, though.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 04:37
|
|
|
PunkBoy posted:I'm a little disappointed they never bring up Ashley's faith again in 3. I thought the conversation you have with her about religion in 1 was pretty well done (unless I'm totally mis-remembering it). There was supposed to be a conversation between her and Shepard about death and afterlife, but it got cut. Pretty sure there's some slides out there. Fake edit: Here
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 04:57
|
|
|
Padok Wiks is probably a reference to creepy fans too. Ask him about Krogan sex.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 05:00
|
|
|
I'm trying to replay ME1 for the first time since ME2 came out but I get frustrated with the combat every time and just load up 3's MP to kill some dudes. Even on normal it isn't very well done by today's(and later game's) standards.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 05:03
|
|
|
The Unnamed One posted:There was supposed to be a conversation between her and Shepard about death and afterlife, but it got cut. Pretty sure there's some slides out there. Thanks! Sad the scene was cut, though. 
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 05:20
|
|
|
The Unnamed One posted:There was supposed to be a conversation between her and Shepard about death and afterlife, but it got cut. Pretty sure there's some slides out there. That is actually a pretty decent scene.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 05:26
|
|
|
I have a quick DLC question. So I have all 3 games on PC now and I'm hoping to do a playthrough of all three in sucession at some point this year. I was curious what the necessary story DLC's for each game were. Also, does the DLC ever go on sale? I don't feel like dropping $10-15 a pop, especially as pissed as I am at EA right now over Simcity.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 06:13
|
|
|
Camaro83 posted:I have a quick DLC question. So I have all 3 games on PC now and I'm hoping to do a playthrough of all three in sucession at some point this year. I was curious what the necessary story DLC's for each game were. Also, does the DLC ever go on sale? I don't feel like dropping $10-15 a pop, especially as pissed as I am at EA right now over Simcity. The DLC has NEVER gone on sale as far as I know, and always requires Bioware Points to purchase. It's incredibly frustrating, especially if like me you came to ME3 late and wanted to prepare by playing through all the ME2 story DLC that you never picked up earlier.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 06:18
|
|
|
Jerusalem posted:The DLC has NEVER gone on sale as far as I know, and always requires Bioware Points to purchase. It's incredibly frustrating, especially if like me you came to ME3 late and wanted to prepare by playing through all the ME2 story DLC that you never picked up earlier. Well that's BS. Screw it then. I had enough fun playing the games vanilla and I'll just do that again. I'm not dropping $100+ on old DLC. Edit: Just another on the list of a million reasons why Origin is such a failure as a platform.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 06:27
|
|
|
Camaro83 posted:I have a quick DLC question. So I have all 3 games on PC now and I'm hoping to do a playthrough of all three in sucession at some point this year. I was curious what the necessary story DLC's for each game were. Also, does the DLC ever go on sale? I don't feel like dropping $10-15 a pop, especially as pissed as I am at EA right now over Simcity. None of the content adds much to the story for ME1. Some of it gets mentioned from time to time, but it's probably not worth the extra money, in my opinion. For ME2, Arrival plays into what happens in the story between 2 and 3. Overlord is a neat little story in itself but won't be relevant for 99% of the rest of the game(s). Be sure to get the two downloadable characters. They're both worth it. All of the DLC for ME3 except for maybe Omega are pretty worthwhile. From Ashes gives you a cool party member who was strangely cut out from the vanilla game. Leviathan gives you some background to a seemingly out-of-left-field ending to the whole series. Citadel is worth every drat penny. Don't let anyone ever tell you differently.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 06:27
|
|
|
TheLoser posted:From Ashes gives you a cool party member who was strangely cut out from the vanilla game. I would strongly recommend Lair of the Shadow Broker for ME2.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 06:29
|
|
|
Elysiume posted:I think we all know exactly why he was cut from vanilla. ...because the script that featured him as a prominent, necessary character was altered long before release?
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 06:36
|
|
|
Probably a dumb question but when you first talk to Liara on the Normandy and she asks about resuming your relationship does that actually lock you out of rekindling your ME2 one? The wording of it seemed like Bioware wanted you to be able to draw her along until you found the other one and had to actually decide.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 06:46
|
|
|
IcePhoenix posted:Probably a dumb question but when you first talk to Liara on the Normandy and she asks about resuming your relationship does that actually lock you out of rekindling your ME2 one? The wording of it seemed like Bioware wanted you to be able to draw her along until you found the other one and had to actually decide. You can say yes but you won't be locked in until later in the game at which point you can resume your ME2 romance. If you say no right away on the Normandy then it ends there.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 06:55
|
|
|
Speaking of locking in romances, in my latest ME1 game I... kind of... accidentally banged Kaidan. I was just trying to be polite! Anyway, how do I make sure I stay with Garrus in ME3?
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 07:24
|
|
|
Rincewind posted:Speaking of locking in romances, in my latest ME1 game I... kind of... accidentally banged Kaidan. I was just trying to be polite! Anyway, how do I make sure I stay with Garrus in ME3? At some point in ME2, you can just start a relationship with Garrus or whoever else without issue. You meet Ashley/Kaiden a grand total of once in the whole game. Keep that going into ME3. Kaiden will probably ask about your relationship and you can stay friends to play with his emotions. You monster.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 07:34
|
|
|
God there is a lot of DLC for ME2 and ME3....I just looked at the list on Bioware's site and here is what looks to be story DLC ME2: Arrival $7 Shadow Broker $10 Overlord $7 Kasumi $7 ME3: Citadel $15 Omega $15 Leviathan $10 From Ashes $10 So basically $31 for ME2 and $50 for ME3 DLC. How much of this crap is necessary? I still can't believe I'd have to drop another $81 to get the "complete" experience of ME2 and ME3.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 07:43
|
|
|
Camaro83 posted:God there is a lot of DLC for ME2 and ME3....I just looked at the list on Bioware's site and here is what looks to be story DLC Everything except Omega, really. And there's two $3 weapon packs for ME3 that're worth picking up.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 07:45
|
|
|
My main FemShep actually did dump Kaidan in ME2 and went for Garrus. I feel it's sort of justified with how bad Shepard's meeting with Kaidan went in ME2. I tried to do the same with my Renegade BroShep, dumping Ashley for Jack. I picked the Renegade option with Jack, though, so he went back to Ash in ME3. He is a Spacer, so maybe he just likes to keep in the military. His mom is probably happy with this anyway. Camaro83 posted:God there is a lot of DLC for ME2 and ME3....I just looked at the list on Bioware's site and here is what looks to be story DLC
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 07:51
|
|
|
I am a big fan of overlord. Arrival is neat but skippable.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 07:55
|
|
|
Camaro83 posted:So basically $31 for ME2 and $50 for ME3 DLC. How much of this crap is necessary? I still can't believe I'd have to drop another $81 to get the "complete" experience of ME2 and ME3. Citadel is necessary for ME3. Shadow Broker is also very good.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 08:01
|
|
|
I decided to fire up ME1 after looking up all the DLC. I haven't played it since release week on the 360 back in what...07/08? It's amazing to see how far the series improved from a technical perspective from ME1 to ME3.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 08:42
|
|
|
Camaro83 posted:I decided to fire up ME1 after looking up all the DLC. I haven't played it since release week on the 360 back in what...07/08? It's amazing to see how far the series improved from a technical perspective from ME1 to ME3. Make sure to take note of how many lines there are that actually do hint at the ending of the trilogy and the explanation for "why the Reapers reap". I'm not saying it makes the endings better, or that it was totally intentional, but in retrospect there are some very explicit hints dropped. Particularly when Tali says that the Geth, being synthetic, have no use for any organic life, ever, and want to wipe it all out.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 08:50
|
|
precision posted:Make sure to take note of how many lines there are that actually do hint at the ending of the trilogy and the explanation for "why the Reapers reap". Tali, who is also an incredible anti-synthetic racist during the events of ME1, and is proven wrong by Legion in ME2, whose growth as a character comes from turning away from her anti-synthetic beliefs?
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 08:57
|
|
|
It is cool putting things together in a 2nd playthrough since you pick up on stuff you wouldn't have the first time. Oh and I'm going full Renegade this time since I went Paragon in ME1-ME3 before. Renegade sure is fun to play.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 09:03
|
|
|
Milky Moor posted:Tali, who is also an incredible anti-synthetic racist during the events of ME1, and is proven wrong by Legion in ME2, whose growth as a character comes from turning away from her anti-synthetic beliefs? The main thing that makes me sad is: Sovereign: Each of us is a nation unto itself. Because... welp. 
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 09:05
|
|
|
Camaro83 posted:So basically $31 for ME2 and $50 for ME3 DLC. How much of this crap is necessary? I still can't believe I'd have to drop another $81 to get the "complete" experience of ME2 and ME3. None of this stuff is necessary, really. You can play straight vanilla and have a good time, and there wouldn't be any plot holes as a result. Personally I only purchased Citadel. I suggest that you delay thoughts about buying DLC until after finishing ME2. Then you can better gauge how much you want to invest, both in time and money. Adding all the dlc will basically double the length of what are already very long games, so it might not be for you. Fangz fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Mar 18, 2013 |
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 11:12
|
|
|
Milky Moor posted:Tali, who is also an incredible anti-synthetic racist during the events of ME1, and is proven wrong by Legion in ME2, whose growth as a character comes from turning away from her anti-synthetic beliefs? Well that's just one example. There really are a ton of lines that hint at the ending explanation we got. Like I said, I don't claim to know how intentional it was, but it really is there.
|
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 13:33
|
|
|
Dan Didio posted:...because the script that featured him as a prominent, necessary character was altered long before release? Wait, are you suggesting the reason he was removed *wasn't* just so they could squeeze more money out of the players by removing a character who is obviously part of the vanilla storyline? e: ok, come up with a better reason, because I certainly can't. precision posted:Make sure to take note of how many lines there are that actually do hint at the ending of the trilogy and the explanation for "why the Reapers reap". This is why I didn't understand why people suggested the Leviathan DLC for understanding the reapers motivations better. All it did was spell out explicitly what they had been layering in since ME1. For me it was a bit of buzzkill, being handheld towards conclusions you could draw just by thinking about the story. rypakal fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Mar 18, 2013 |
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 13:43
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 07:59 |
|
|
I think I am. Yeah. As I understand it, that is the reason that has been given, it corrolates with what we know of previous versions of the game's script and development and Javik isn't important to the game's narrative or central to it's events at all in the final product. A lot of the reason why there's content for him in the game is that they'd begun development with him as a character in mind, but cut him from the final release of the game a signficant time before release; which makes sense, given how rushed and crazy the development's crunch time apparently ended up being. Shirkelton fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Mar 18, 2013 |
|
#
?
Mar 18, 2013 13:45
|
|