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Seemlar
Jun 18, 2002

The_Doctor posted:

So, what we're saying is that Sterling Archer Shepard is pretty close to actual Shepard.

I genuinely laughed the first time I saw the "What about playing... in bed" dialogue option male Shepard gets during the chess match with Traynor. Shepard is the worst.

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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
I still think Sterling Archer Shep is redundant when Alpha Protocol exists.

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

There are bits of alpha protocol that are even worse than archer: M1lf l0v3r as a password option....

edit: makes sense, lacks class

lenoon fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Mar 20, 2013

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

lenoon posted:

There are bits of alpha protocol that are even worse than archer: M1lf l0v3r as a password option....

Makes sense, though. There's a (completely SFW) website that lists the most common porn-related search by country. For USA as a whole, it's "MILF".

Mr.Flibble
Jul 23, 2008
I've played both Mass Effect 2 and 3 without any dlc and they are both still great games without it, so I don't get the point about all this whining about dlc, you don't need them , they are add on's/expansions, buy them after beat you the game the first time if you like the game enough to play it again and want to have something new do the second time around.

Radio Paranoia
Jun 27, 2010

It is now safe to turn off your computer.

The_Doctor posted:

So, what we're saying is that Sterling Archer Shepard is pretty close to actual Shepard.

The minute the DLC hit the "I don't actually sound like that" point, I just played the rest of it making Archer references.

Liara.
Liara.
LIAAARRRAAAAA!
...Dangerzone.

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT
Mordin has always been kreiger like, now its head canon.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Error 404 posted:

Mordin has always been kreiger like, now its head canon.

Aww, Varrenly 2.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Error 404 posted:

Mordin has always been kreiger like, now its head canon.

"Jesus, Mordin, you're still taping Vorcha fights?"
"No. I'm into something a lot... darker."

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT
Tali: Mordin-san, we were to be married!
Mordin: ugh. You are just like your mother. Will talk about it in the Kodiak.

Aqua_D
Feb 12, 2011

Sometimes, a man just needs to get his Rock off.
So, I've finally gotten around to (nearly) finishing ME2, and I want to know... Can I do the IFF mission and then do sidequests with Legion, or is the wiki right that I'd only be able to safely do his loyalty mission before crew members start dying? I want to bro out with him before I do the suicide mission, but I also don't want to risk everyone.

Spoilered just in case, I guess.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Demitri Omni posted:

So, I've finally gotten around to (nearly) finishing ME2, and I want to know... Can I do the IFF mission and then do sidequests with Legion, or is the wiki right that I'd only be able to safely do his loyalty mission before crew members start dying? I want to bro out with him before I do the suicide mission, but I also don't want to risk everyone.

Spoilered just in case, I guess.

That's a fair question - You have a safe gap of ONE mission between the crew getting abducted and them getting killed. Legion's loyalty mission is perfectly fine as long as you go do the Suicide Mission as your next task (just visiting the Citadel/Illium/Omega to buy things doesn't count against this).

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Neddy Seagoon posted:

That's a fair question - You have a safe gap of ONE mission between the crew getting abducted and them getting killed. Legion's loyalty mission is perfectly fine as long as you go do the Suicide Mission as your next task (just visiting the Citadel/Illium/Omega to buy things doesn't count against this).

Nope you can do two as I did legion and tali's mission back to back and was fine

precision
May 7, 2006

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CharlestheHammer posted:

Nope you can do two as I did legion and tali's mission back to back and was fine

If you've done all the loyalty missions (except Legion's, obviously), you can only do one mission (of any kind).

rypakal
Oct 31, 2012

He also cooks the food of his people

Demitri Omni posted:

So, I've finally gotten around to (nearly) finishing ME2, and I want to know... Can I do the IFF mission and then do sidequests with Legion, or is the wiki right that I'd only be able to safely do his loyalty mission before crew members start dying? I want to bro out with him before I do the suicide mission, but I also don't want to risk everyone.

Spoilered just in case, I guess.

The helpful chart (a spoiler, obviously) http://fi.somethingawful.com/is/img203/3025/suisidemissionfinal8.jpg suggests that you can do 1-3 missions after opening the relay and only lose half of your non-squad crew. Really, doing the loyalty missions is worth more than losing non-squad crew members, so I wouldn't worry about it.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Just finished Leviathan, I really enjoyed it (reminded me of Overlord in a lot of places) and I especially liked how they fleshed out the ending more.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~
After finishing Citadel, I want a Mass Effect sequel of spin-off on a smaller scale. No Reapers, no Cerberus (well, maybe Cerberus), just adventures on the Citadel. We could spend the game exploring this huge station and really getting to know how the setting works when it's not being destroyed. The main character could be some form of C-Sec cop to justify our adventuring without having to be the larger than life hero. Just seeing the wonder of the galactic community and maybe foiling a few dozen major crimes along the way.

Basically, I want DAII done right. Anybody else think it's a good idea?

Jabarto
Apr 7, 2007

I could do with your...assistance.

IcePhoenix posted:

Just finished Leviathan, I really enjoyed it (reminded me of Overlord in a lot of places) and I especially liked how they fleshed out the ending more.

Yeah, I played it yesterday and loved it. It was a really nice change of scenery.

While we're on the subject, was Overlord good? I never got it and in fact completely forgot that it existed.

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?

Geostomp posted:

After finishing Citadel, I want a Mass Effect sequel of spin-off on a smaller scale. No Reapers, no Cerberus (well, maybe Cerberus), just adventures on the Citadel.

See, this is pretty much exactly what I wanted Star Wars 1313 to be.

The Unnamed One
Jan 13, 2012

"BOOM!"
I think something in the mold of New Vegas could work, too. Guy/gal is envolved in a personal quest that ends up branching into something bigger (though probably not on the level of a galactic war) as the game unfolds.

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT
If wanting Grand Theft: Omega is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Or if the game had Jack in it, Grand Theft: Space Station.

Edit: or a remake of Bulletstorm, with nothing changed except all the characters are Krogan.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Geostomp posted:

After finishing Citadel, I want a Mass Effect sequel of spin-off on a smaller scale. No Reapers, no Cerberus (well, maybe Cerberus), just adventures on the Citadel. We could spend the game exploring this huge station and really getting to know how the setting works when it's not being destroyed. The main character could be some form of C-Sec cop to justify our adventuring without having to be the larger than life hero. Just seeing the wonder of the galactic community and maybe foiling a few dozen major crimes along the way.

Basically, I want DAII done right. Anybody else think it's a good idea?

Heck, they could even have the game take place before ME1, where you play as Garrus as a loose cannon cop (who gets results). Sort of an easy way out, but I'd still play it.

The other Mass Effect 4 I want to see is one where you're playing as a smuggler with a heart of gold, and it's essentially Firefly: the game. The character's a bit played out, ok, but the Citadel DLC proved that the writers know how to handle characters well, I think it could be done.

Whatever they do, I definitely don't want another "save the universe!!!!" plot. My favorite game stories of late have been ones with more esoteric plot lines (Alpha Protocol's the one that comes most to mind...at least I think it did), I want to see more game writers take a risk and write smaller, more personal stories.

Tremors
Aug 16, 2006

What happened to the legendary Chris Redfield, huh? What happened to you?!
A mass effect game in the same vein as saints row the third would be amazing.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Tremors posted:

A mass effect game in the same vein as saints row the third would be amazing.

I feel like that would basically be a Blasto game.

I would have no problem with that

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

Tremors posted:

A mass effect game in the same vein as saints row the third would be amazing.

Just Cause 2... in space... as a Krogan. :getin:

precision
May 7, 2006

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I don't know. I thought the Blasto thing in Citadel was kind of cringeworthy.

Perfectly Cromulent posted:

Just Cause 2... in space... as a Krogan.

This is a much better idea.

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

They just straight up killed a vorcha for artistic effect. If it had been a batarian I'd have been all over it

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Jabarto posted:

While we're on the subject, was Overlord good? I never got it and in fact completely forgot that it existed.

I really like it. Most people here seem to be in the "good but not great" train of thought. The setting is a bit similar with the horror story kind of gameplay.

On the topic of the next ME game, I would really like it to start sort of how the first Dragon Age did, where you pick a race and have an Origin story type of beginning based on that before you get dropped into the main game.

I just really would love to be able to play as all the races.

Tremors
Aug 16, 2006

What happened to the legendary Chris Redfield, huh? What happened to you?!

precision posted:

I don't know. I thought the Blasto thing in Citadel was kind of cringeworthy.

You just hate fun. :colbert:

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Jabarto posted:

Yeah, I played it yesterday and loved it. It was a really nice change of scenery.

While we're on the subject, was Overlord good? I never got it and in fact completely forgot that it existed.

Cons: -plot isn't that special (Cerberus experiment gone wrong) and doesn't really tie into anything else
-just fighting geth and mechs (although maybe you like fighting geth and mechs so could be a plus)
-no squad mate interaction
-hammerhead platforming sections ugh

Pros: -great atmosphere
-good music
-gorgeous vistas
-fun and interesting set pieces
-sets up one of the most emotional scenes in ME3 I think
-some pretty humorous moments

So yeah good but not great. It's got a very similar atmosphere to Leviathan so you'll probably like it. The last few sequences are probably the most creative set pieces in the series in my opinion though.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Mazerunner posted:

Cons: -plot isn't that special

You actually allude to it one of the pros, but I disagree on that one. The general idea of a cerberus experiment gone wrong is a bit generic, yes, but the actual details of what happens are at least above-average for video game writing, in my opinion.

You also get a little bit of extra closure to the story in ME3, where the doctor fills you in on the consequences of what happens as a result of the choice you make at the end of the ME2 DLC.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Ainsley McTree posted:

You actually allude to it one of the pros, but I disagree on that one. The general idea of a cerberus experiment gone wrong is a bit generic, yes, but the actual details of what happens are at least above-average for video game writing, in my opinion.

You also get a little bit of extra closure to the story in ME3, where the doctor fills you in on the consequences of what happens as a result of the choice you make at the end of the ME2 DLC.

and if you made the right choice you get a bonus scene at grissom academy :allears:

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Ainsley McTree posted:

You actually allude to it one of the pros, but I disagree on that one. The general idea of a cerberus experiment gone wrong is a bit generic, yes, but the actual details of what happens are at least above-average for video game writing, in my opinion.

You also get a little bit of extra closure to the story in ME3, where the doctor fills you in on the consequences of what happens as a result of the choice you make at the end of the ME2 DLC.

Ok yeah that's fair enough. It is a really good ride. What I should have said was it's very self-contained.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


IcePhoenix posted:

and if you made the right choice you get a bonus scene at grissom academy :allears:

I clearly made the wrong choice! Time to replay ME2 again I GUESS

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

precision posted:

I don't know. I thought the Blasto thing in Citadel was kind of cringeworthy.

I thought Blasto was pretty played out even before Citadel.

IcePhoenix posted:

On the topic of the next ME game, I would really like it to start sort of how the first Dragon Age did, where you pick a race and have an Origin story type of beginning based on that before you get dropped into the main game.

I just really would love to be able to play as all the races.

I've always liked the idea of being able to play as aliens too but I think the closest we'll ever get is something like ME3's multiplayer where you play as Joe Schmoe the faceless soldier. The big stumbling block would probably be voice acting and all of the work that would have to go into that to represent all of the prominent species. BioWare doesn't seem too willing to not have fully voiced protagonists now too.

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

Tremors posted:

You just hate fun. :colbert:

Could have been hilarious, but wasn't very well written and the comedic timing was totally off.

Senethro
May 18, 2005

I unironically think I'm Garret, Master Thief.
I'm looking at the Origin store with the sale on at the moment and can't see an option to "Buy Mass Effect 3 And Give Me Everything". Did they not release a super edition with all DLC yet or am I just being blind?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Senethro posted:

I'm looking at the Origin store with the sale on at the moment and can't see an option to "Buy Mass Effect 3 And Give Me Everything". Did they not release a super edition with all DLC yet or am I just being blind?

You still can't buy a "Mass Effect 2: Everything Edition" either. The DLC will sell at full price individually right up to the point where they stop "supporting" it and you just won't be able to buy it anymore :smith:

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Senethro posted:

I'm looking at the Origin store with the sale on at the moment and can't see an option to "Buy Mass Effect 3 And Give Me Everything". Did they not release a super edition with all DLC yet or am I just being blind?

They aren't going to. They've stopped releasing ultimate editions.

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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Ainsley McTree posted:

I clearly made the wrong choice! Time to replay ME2 again I GUESS

It's a totally :3: moment, actually. The autistic brother is a student at Grissom, and is hiding with the twitchy kids by one of the weapons lockers, he's reciting his square-root mantra thing, and Shepard finishes one for him to show who she is and he tells the others to stand down and that thanks to Shep and co, he can count the number of days his life's been extended.

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