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mr. mephistopheles posted:Conservative men, especially those with power, consider themselves to be a peak form of masculinity. He has to call it sissy because not doing so compromises that belief. The best part is that they're almost always in terrible shape unless they're active duty military or something because all of that "healthy lifestyle" hippie crap is for liberals and faggots. When it was announced that women would be eligible for combat roles in the military a whole line of conservative pundits started ranting about women being "too weak" while every single one of them was basically a blob of lard that would be utterly embarrassed by said female soldiers in any physical task.
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Mar 21, 2013 20:51
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Cheapsteaks posted:I'd like to see Rush take a tackle from someone's helmet or tackle a football player while wearing a helmet. He should put his money where his mouth is and do it. Last time he saw a long yardage situation was when the hostess at Golden Corral sat him at the opposite end of the buffet as the chocolate wonderfall. And you can be drat certain that most of these "pussification" assholes haven't played sports since they weighed south of 150 lbs
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Mar 21, 2013 20:59
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Doctor Butts posted:Last time he saw a long yardage situation was when the hostess at Golden Corral sat him at the opposite end of the buffet as the chocolate wonderfall. I think thats why conservative white trash people love Football and NASCAR as opposed to Soccer or Basketball. You gotta be in pretty fantastic shape for those sports. A guy like Rush Limbaugh could look at a Vince Wilfork or Tony Stewart and say "I could be that guy."
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Mar 21, 2013 21:02
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A DENVER FAX posted:I think thats why conservative white trash people love Football and NASCAR as opposed to Soccer or Basketball. You gotta be in pretty fantastic shape for those sports. A guy like Rush Limbaugh could look at a Vince Wilfork or Tony Stewart and say "I could be that guy." You have to be in pretty decent shape for any football position worth a drat (ie, "not being a literal wall of meat"). It's probably more of a nostalgia thing in that respect.
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Mar 21, 2013 21:05
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I recall f1 drivers needing to be in good shape. Not sure about Nascar though. everybody wanted to be the football player who banged the prom queen.
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Mar 21, 2013 21:13
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The great thing is the NFL is incredibly socialist. Every team gets the same cut regardless of how well they're doing. And all have the same payroll limitations. The worst teams are given the advantage of choosing new players first. And it seems like liberals love baseball which is basically free market oligarchy, gently caress you got mine, the sport. 
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Mar 21, 2013 21:16
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A DENVER FAX posted:Because all soldiers are conservatives... Someone ranting about "the black-flag'ers in this thread" sure as hell is.
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Mar 21, 2013 21:20
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You have to have pretty incredible endurance and stamina and willpower to drive NASCAR. You're going so fast you really won't have time to react if something goes catastrophically wrong within a hundred car-lengths of you, you're in constant contact with other cars, your ride is bumpy as hell if there's anything at all on the track because any shock absorbers worth a drat weigh too much to even consider putting them on your car, your engine is running at 200+ degrees not four feet in front of you, and you don't get bathroom breaks for the next four hours. Have fun.
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Mar 21, 2013 21:26
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Doctor Butts posted:I recall f1 drivers needing to be in good shape. Not sure about Nascar though. everybody wanted to be the football player who banged the prom queen. Well, Michael Schumacher certainly seems to be.  As for football, even the massive walls of meat on the line are typically in far better shape than you'd guess by appearance. Even fully suited up and padded, a full force hit would probably kill Limbaugh.
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Mar 21, 2013 21:30
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The reason conservatives like football and NASCAR is is because they're both really aggressive and dangerous. It's also another reason they all hate Danica Patrick. The fact that she's doing increasingly well as time goes by is proving that all this mystical man power they think the sport requires is total bullshit and they're so insecure about themselves that they see her success as a personal attack on their masculinity. Same thing with the NFL and helmets. ReidRansom posted:As for football, even the massive walls of meat on the line are typically in far better shape than you'd guess by appearance. Even fully suited up and padded, a full force hit would probably kill Limbaugh. Many linemen are the American equivalent of Sumo wrestlers. Yeah they're fat and have huge guts but they all lift really heavy weights 3 days a week and do cardio. Like you said, they'd splatter your typical conservative media pundit. Elephant Ambush fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Mar 21, 2013 |
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Mar 21, 2013 21:32
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Not to derail into a AUTO RACING IS A SPORT!! thing, but you can get by in amateur events being a bit overweight and out of shape. That said, racing is hard and F1 drivers are really, really spectacular athletes; club guys can get by with Cool Shirts, but there's nothing like that in F1. This article doesn't go into the crazy temperature of the cockpit (averages 50C). http://bleacherreport.com/articles/30864-formula-1-are-f1-drivers-considered-athletes
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Mar 21, 2013 21:36
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The "walls of meat" often bench and squat well north of 500 and 700 pounds, respectively, and run sub 5-second 40-yard-dashes while weighing 300 pounds. These aren't just fat guys off the street.
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Mar 21, 2013 21:41
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SoSimpleABeginning posted:The "walls of meat" often bench and squat well north of 500 and 700 pounds, respectively, and run sub 5-second 40-yard-dashes while weighing 300 pounds. I'm pretty glad a lot of people are pointing out the actual athleticism of O-Linemen. They may look like Shrek but remember their job is to prevent another Shrek from getting by without actually grabbing onto them, plus being able to react to and block poo poo like blitzes and running plays that take the carrier through the line. That weight is intentional and serves as extra volume and mass, and they train constantly to keep their musculature and skeleton up to the task of keeping it all way more agile than it would look to a layperson. It's not something you would want to use to justify some slob being the lazy kind of fat, because the amount of calories these guys take in to keep their weight up is staggering, almost a daily workout in itself.
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Mar 21, 2013 22:21
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MORE RIGHT WING MEDIA I made the mistake of listening to Sean Hannity's entire show today. The highlight was having a professor from Yale who teaches a class on sexual understanding which involves anonymous questions from the audience. Some people asked about incest and bestiality and he spent the entire show harping on how this class at an IVY LEAGUE MY GOD teaches kids how to engage in incest and bestiality. When he finally got her on for the interview, he berated her for like 3 minutes about what she personally felt about bestiality before she hung up. Then him and his program director or whoever hemmed and hawed about how unprofessional she was. Other highlights from the show. He was talking about how liberals are braindead and unthinking and just mindlessly worship Obama because they refuse to accept reality. Later he said that universities are centers for authoritarian indoctrination and liberals don't want to hear reason they just want everyone to believe what they believe and regurgitate their talking points like good little parrots. Anyone got the ironicat that just keeps growing bigger and bigger?
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Mar 21, 2013 22:22
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mr. mephistopheles posted:
Ah, classical projection. Or rather, in this case, artificial intentional projection.
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Mar 21, 2013 22:26
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Nyyen posted:On a less derailly note, I have been listening Rush the last few days and he has been banging on about how the new rules about helmet contact in the NFL are ruining the sport and sissifying our manly American culture. Is there any more to this issue other than the usual reactionary clap-trap of political correctness gone wild, or is there some deeper message? It seems like such an apolitical issue for him to focus on. This is asinine, preventing a condition that is very hard to treat/control and is costing the healthcare system quite a bit of money, TBI, is sissifying America.
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Mar 22, 2013 00:40
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Monkey Fracas posted:Ah, classical projection. Or rather, in this case, artificial intentional projection. Whenever I see a conservative get irrational and angry about something for no real reason, I just assume it's because they did whatever they're mad at someone for doing and are doubling down on it being bad so nobody suspects them. It's true for being gay, why wouldn't it be true for incest, rape, murder, stealing, and basically every other thing? It held true for election fraud, too. Azuth0667 posted:This is asinine, preventing a condition that is very hard to treat/control and is costing the healthcare system quite a bit of money, TBI, is sissifying America. Sometimes it seems like republicans pick the wrong position on everything on purpose just because they know liberals will take the right position, so no matter how wrong it is, it's still rooting for their 'team'. ugh
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This goes absolutely nowhere, but I love Ann Richards and just found it. Her speech to the Democratic Issues conference in 1992. Funny as Hell and relevant to today as it's about being in an economic slump driven by lovely banking, regulation and real estate bubbles and such: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/DemocraticIssue EDIT: gently caress it, if you're alive and an American you should watch this. I remember the time period, but even I had forgotten just how little our country has accomplished in the last twenty years. If you weren't alive or were really small it may give you a sense of what a loving rut America is in. The entire speech could be repeated today with the names changed and people would think she was giving it right now. She talks about running deficits to put people back to work, focusing on single payer healthcare, making fun of gutting medicaid and tax credits, energy subsidies, sequestration (no poo poo) and more. Man I miss Ann Richards. She's still one of the most relevant speakers alive and she's dead! ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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Mar 22, 2013 03:01
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Warchicken posted:Sometimes it seems like republicans pick the wrong position on everything on purpose just because they know liberals will take the right position, so no matter how wrong it is, it's still rooting for their 'team'. ugh Sometimes? That's practically their party platform.
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Mar 22, 2013 04:57
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ReindeerF posted:This goes absolutely nowhere, but I love Ann Richards and just found it. Her speech to the Democratic Issues conference in 1992. Funny as Hell and relevant to today as it's about being in an economic slump driven by lovely banking, regulation and real estate bubbles and such: From everything I've read it seems like there was a moment when the Cold War was wrapping up where it seemed like America could start taking advantage of this peace dividend -- that military spending could be funnelled into domestic spending as Americans looked around at their country and saw that Detroit, for example, had a infant mortality rate of 1 in 10. But I guess it was too late. Either Reagan's influence over the country held strong (despite what he actually did), or the Gulf War meant the US had to replace those Patriot Missiles or whatever other excuse popped up then and things just carried on regardless of what was happening in the country.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:MORE RIGHT WING MEDIA Ah yes, great wisdom and information being passed down from one of America's most vocal college dropouts. Not saying that you have to go to college to be a success (as he demonstrates), but it is great that he is trying to go on and on about college having dropped out of both NYU and Adelphi. KKKLIP ART fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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Dreylad posted:From everything I've read it seems like there was a moment when the Cold War was wrapping up where it seemed like America could start taking advantage of this peace dividend -- that military spending could be funnelled into domestic spending as Americans looked around at their country and saw that Detroit, for example, had a infant mortality rate of 1 in 10. But I guess it was too late. Either Reagan's influence over the country held strong (despite what he actually did), or the Gulf War meant the US had to replace those Patriot Missiles or whatever other excuse popped up then and things just carried on regardless of what was happening in the country. The American economy depended upon (and still does) the military-industrial complex to such an extent that any attempt at reorientation would cause quite a lot of feather ruffling among powerful industrial and financial interests. Nobody is politically suicidal enough to lend their efforts to such a monumental undertaking. And so here we are, the only first world nation without universal healthcare. But we've got lots of tanks, fighter jets, and submarines! 
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Crasscrab posted:The American economy depended upon (and still does) the military-industrial complex to such an extent that any attempt at reorientation would cause quite a lot of feather ruffling among powerful industrial and financial interests. Nobody is politically suicidal enough to lend their efforts to such a monumental undertaking. And so here we are, the only first world nation without universal healthcare. But we've got lots of tanks, fighter jets, and submarines! Isn't there something to be said about the size of our armed forces being necessary as the armed forces of so many of our allies have been scaled down? In order to take on a rising superpower like China, we need to constantly be ahead of them in terms of armaments and in order to maintain our footholds around the world. Call me a Classical Realist, but isn't it better that we be the world hegemon and not somebody else?
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ProperGanderPusher posted:but isn't it better that we be the world hegemon and not somebody else? Yeah, the US has done a bang up job so far. Freedom and more freedom for all!
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Mar 22, 2013 08:01
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Isn't there something to be said about the size of our armed forces being necessary as the armed forces of so many of our allies have been scaled down? In order to take on a rising superpower like China, we need to constantly be ahead of them in terms of armaments and in order to maintain our footholds around the world. Call me a Classical Realist, but isn't it better that we be the world hegemon and not somebody else? That world hegemon bullshit is what has turned the mideast into a shitshow (ever wonder why dirt-poor people in the sticks are so religious?) and lent a lot of fuel to the fire that bore Al Qaeda. Do people just lack the personal awareness of how incredibly loving stupid they sound when they mewl about our government being dicks to us domestically while cheerleading for our government to be dicks to other countries around the world, cost and all? Did you go to the beaten wife school of political science or am I missing where you provided a reasoned foundation for your double standard?
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Call me a Classical Realist, but isn't it better that we be the world hegemon and not somebody else? This reminds me of a scene in the military courtroom drama "Breaker Morant" (about an event in the Boer War in South Africa) where a military officer is describing to his superiors the reason it was desirable for Britain to prevail over her rivals (Germany mostly) in the scrum over South Africa's diamonds and other resources: "They lack our... altruism, Sir." "Quite." http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fqYp2-K-3Go#t=535s
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I'm on the phone and can't get to it easily, but there's a Roger Ailes bio excerpt out about why and how he fired Glenn Beck.
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Mar 22, 2013 12:30
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ReindeerF posted:I'm on the phone and can't get to it easily, but there's a Roger Ailes bio excerpt out about why and how he fired Glenn Beck. You probably mean this: http://observer.com/2013/03/why-roger-ailes-let-glenn-beck-go/ It says a lot when you're too crazy for Fox News.
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Vertical Lime posted:You probably mean this: quote:The final straw was the mass rally Beck staged at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington. Beck was already despised by many blacks for speculating that Obama hated white people. Convening a mass gathering at the site of Martin Luther King’s “I Have a Dream” speech—and featuring King’s niece, the Reverend Alveda King, delivering a conservative “I have a dream” message of her own—was infuriating to many viewers. Ailes didn’t like it much, either. When Al Sharpton called him to complain, Sharpton was surprised to hear Ailes say he would “take care” of it. quote:Not only that: An advertising boycott organized by ColorOfChange.org hurt revenues, and Beck’s ratings declined after his march on Washington. And the final, petty pièce de résistance: quote:“I could have done it in a harder way, but I didn’t want to give MoveOn and Media Matters the satisfaction,” [Ailes] told me.
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Call me a Classical Realist, but isn't it better that we be the world hegemon and not somebody else? I dunno, ask all the people we are constantly invading, bombing, and enjoying "democracy" if we should be the world hegemon instead of someone else. China has a much better relationship with the third world than we do. quote:Do people just lack the personal awareness of how incredibly loving stupid they sound when they mewl about our government being dicks to us domestically while cheerleading for our government to be dicks to other countries around the world, cost and all? Did you go to the beaten wife school of political science or am I missing where you provided a reasoned foundation for your double standard? Come on. Some people are still woo'd by the idea of US Soldiers going in and "teaching stupid backwater peoples to be civilized" like the great US with it's "Democracy". Zuhzuhzombie!! fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Mar 22, 2013 |
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Isn't there something to be said about the size of our armed forces being necessary as the armed forces of so many of our allies have been scaled down? In order to take on a rising superpower like China, we need to constantly be ahead of them in terms of armaments and in order to maintain our footholds around the world. Call me a Classical Realist, but isn't it better that we be the world hegemon and not somebody else? This is predicated on the whole dominate-or-be-dominated false dichotomy, as well as a bit a paranoia and xenophobia. I'm not calling you personally a racist or anything. Your question isn't a bad one. It's just that there's no reason why there always has to be a single dominant #1 world power. And of course most people all over the world think that their country would be the best candidate because that's where they were born and nationalism/jingoism has no boundaries or restrictions. Ideally it shouldn't matter who has the biggest army or the biggest economy. We should all be at least trying to work together to make the world a better place for everyone. That's the purpose of the UN, which America and China both laugh at and ignore.
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Nyyen posted:What is it with this thread that every angry, wannabe black-flagger pops in to tell us how black and white their world view is and how much a true believer they are in any number of emotional and shallow ideas about political and global issues? Are you jealous of the rights monopoly on unthinking zealotry? Are you worried the left might try to understand the complicated nature of issues and actually try to deal with their social and cultural causes? Stop projecting all over me you baby. I meant precisely what I said and no more.
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Isn't there something to be said about the size of our armed forces being necessary as the armed forces of so many of our allies have been scaled down? In order to take on a rising superpower like China, we need to constantly be ahead of them in terms of armaments and in order to maintain our footholds around the world. Call me a Classical Realist, but isn't it better that we be the world hegemon and not somebody else? But 4x ahead of China?
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Minorities posted:This is predicated on the whole dominate-or-be-dominated false dichotomy, as well as a bit a paranoia and xenophobia. I'm not calling you personally a racist or anything. Your question isn't a bad one. Well to be fair, for the majority of recorded human history weaker groups have been conquered by stronger groups. Repeatedly. Sometimes through violence, other times with a carrot-and-stick approach. But it's true that our government often fails to adhere to our lofty principles and we don't need quite the size military we have to still be the biggest badass on the block. It pains me to see the bullshit we've pulled on South America, and the lost opportunity in Afghanistan is another great example where a dollar spent in friendship (after helping them fight off the USSR) would have paid great dividends. Imagine instead of overthrowing governments or leaving people on their own, we came in and built roads, water treatment plans, installed sewer systems, electric grids, etc. That's one thing Chinese diplomacy has right. Sure, the contract goes to a corrupt builder who lines their own pockets, but it sure builds goodwill and its not like our defense contractors aren't lining their own pockets either... We just build bombs and drones instead of getting people to love us.
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duz posted:But 4x ahead of China? Just in case 4 other Chinas appear.
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I'm killing time at work reading through The Authoritarians, and it's so loving good.
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Real life is like Civilization. There can only be one victor. I just wish we were going for a science victory instead. 
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Minorities posted:It's just that there's no reason why there always has to be a single dominant #1 world power. And of course most people all over the world think that their country would be the best candidate because that's where they were born and nationalism/jingoism has no boundaries or restrictions. I'm gonna let you think about those two sentences for a bit. I'm just going to write them on cards, and compare them, back and forth. Then I'm going to hold up a little card called 'World War I' and another one called 'World War II'. Oh, and the Napoleonic Wars, and really, we can keep going back through history as long as you want till we get to the Hittites and their iron chariots. I'm not saying it's necessary that America has to be the dominant one. But I am saying that in cases where there's a whole bunch of roughly equivalent powers... somehow or other, it winds up being one of them has something the other guy wants, and then it's wartime. It's really _weird_ how that always happens, when they could just get most of what they wanted through peaceful diplomacy. Can't imagine why. So, you know, as long as you like wars popping up all over the place, sure, no dominant world power.
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Over the last couple days Limbaugh has decided to provide a public service to his listeners by explaining what "Chopped and Screwed" remixes over and over. It's kind of bizarre as it originally came up due the discussion of a new Beyoncé song that is a nod to that genre. He was working the angle of "anything bad Beyoncé does reflects poorly on Obama because they are best pals" and the Chopped and Screwed aspect was just a small detail that he seems to have become fixated on so now he's got to show everyone how much he knows about it now and how actually he was doing Chopped and Screwed on an old radio show with the Oilers Football Team fight song. Limbaugh knows what's up. Here's a taste: Limbaugh posted:RUSH: That's my point, Snerdley. Snerdley just asked me if I thought Obama has any chopped and screwed on his iPod. See, that's what I'm talking about. Obama's gonna be somewhere, there's gonna be an open mic, and he's gonna diss chop and screw or he's gonna diss Justin Timberlake's greatest CD or some such thing and the kids are gonna turn on him. It will be that kind of event that's gonna wake people up, if he comes out and disses chopped and screwed and says he wouldn't dare have it on his iPad, the number of people he will lose. And, by the way, if as a result of this program, everybody now needs to show a photo ID to buy Robitussin, don't blame that on me. Hopefully he will have some chopped and screwed Mannheim Steamroller bumper music this Christmas season.
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