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buttcoin smuggler posted:I've never found myself completely convinced by this cause. Many women are made uncomfortable by males in their bathroom. There are also documented cases of men sneaking into women's bathrooms to commit sexual assault, a problem which this law presumably seeks to address. (I'm not sure how effectively, but still, there seem like non-discriminatory concerns that would motivate such a law.) There's never been a single documented case of a person pleading defense using an existing transgender protections bill after attacking someone in the opposite-gendered restroom. This is also in direct opposition to an Arizona bill that would bar people from entering the bathroom of the sex not listed on their birth certificate, when Arizona is also a state where you can't change the sex on your birth certificate ever. In other words if you've lived in Arizona your whole life, no matter how much you have transitioned you are still legally required to use your birth certificate room. I'm with you on single-person bathrooms, but unfortunately that's pretty much a pipe dream.  Incidentally, do you want to know what I do in the women's room? A: I pee. quiggy fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Apr 4, 2013 |
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Chamale posted:Fully a quarter of the game involves trying to find a clinic that will prescribe HRT, going through a series of tests at the clinic, and eventually ordering the hormones online instead. It's 11 months since I first went to my GP for my gender dysphoria. I'm still waiting to be referred to the Gender Identity Clinic due to problems with my psych report. I won't see NHS-prescribed hormones until March 2014 at the earliest.  This, on the other hand, cost me £19 ($29) a box, and that's with HMRC administration fees. Drain on the health budget, I am not. TinTower fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Apr 5, 2013 |
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Apr 5, 2013 00:16
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Those Sunchips bags were ridiculously loud.
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Apr 5, 2013 00:17
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Lord Lambeth posted:
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Apr 5, 2013 00:40
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 "Maj. Gen. Horatio Gordon Robley with his collection of tattooed heads"  Ah, the good old days when you could just sell off your kids for some quick cash. A bunch more interesting pictures on imgur here; http://imgur.com/a/inhwo?gallery
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I guess Charles Devens couldn't be it forever...    What a stud! Fluo fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Apr 5, 2013 |
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I sure do love counter-protests. The story, as ever, is on Al-Jazeera. "But some of those pics we've been having are hardly political or provocative!" but alas, times have changed with the thread titles.  A garden variety shop, but the idea of a Mao era Leonardo did briefly amuse me, considering his life.  I was actually surprised and it checks out: Russia says monochrome is tacky and lame in this day and age and there is a small fine for posting them nowadays. They're thinking of extending it to instagrams too. And they say Russia is going to hell in a handbasket.  This wouldn't be very political except this was on my wall with a bunch of my friends talking about her "huge tits" and "what a terrible dress that is". I didn't actually comment, partly because I couldn't (it was a friend of a friend which wasn't set on open, the cad), partly because I didn't know who that was (I'd heard of her but why would I care?) but also because I always feel awkward swooping in and talking to women about objectification and internalized misogyny.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I sure do love counter-protests. The story, as ever, is on Al-Jazeera. These piss me off. FEMEN isn't telling you what you can and can't wear. They're protesting Islamists telling women what they can and can't wear. If you want to wear a niqaab or a Burkah go right ahead, but respect the fact that other women don't share your sense of what is modesty.  This is of course also why I am against France and Belgium having a Burkah ban and the Netherlands working on one.
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ekuNNN posted:These piss me off. FEMEN isn't telling you what you can and can't wear. They're protesting Islamists telling women what they can and can't wear. If you want to wear a niqaab or a Burkah go right ahead, but respect the fact that other women don't share your sense of what is modesty.  I agree with FEMEN because in a conflict between two women; a topless woman and one covered head to toe, you support the civilized one, clearly. After all, I, the liberal feminist will not rest until all women are are my definition of Free, using such stats as number of female executives, how many are millionaires and how little clothing they're wearing. That said, they're far too combatative, the slogan: "gently caress your morals" and causing all this mess is doing more harm than good. This view is totally justified, as the post-modern denial of an objective truth is far more important than actually attempting change the system in a radical way.   's advocate is an awful thing to be.Legit though, sometime way back I read a criticism about feminism that it was: "White Women wanting to become White Men." And it's always stuck to me, that and the fact that a lot of the time I'm seeing white western academic women showing their privilege in their attempts to better the situation of other women, often with pretty lovely results. (if they even tried) But I dig Femen, legit. Because after all: 
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Yeah, I understand the feeling that arab women must have, where this seems like a form of imperialism, and the problems you get when non-muslim women will see headscarves as oppressive no matter what, but still: It's usually easier to wear a burkah in a society that accepts women to be almost completely nude than to wear revealing clothing in a culture that sees wearing a burkah as the standard.
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Apr 5, 2013 05:28
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FEMEN also did this: quote:Shevchenko's protest in Kiev, dubbed a "trash prayer" in recognition of Pussy Riot's cathedral stunt, has elicited mixed responses. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/pussy-riot-trial-femen_n_1798009.html Cutting down a memorial is kind of messed up.
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Apr 5, 2013 05:33
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AGirlWonder posted:FEMEN also did this: Cutting down a memorial is exceptionally messed up. Way to win those hearts and minds, ladies. 
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AGirlWonder posted:FEMEN also did this: Read that as "trash player" and with the person being named Shevchenko I was awfully confused for a moment "A new kind of Liberal"
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I watched an interview with FEMEN where that was brought up and according to them that "memorial" was only made up after the fact to smear them  Doesn't look like anything but a random cross and there doesn't seem to be a plaque or anything like that on it either. 
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Apr 5, 2013 06:23
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I went to a beer and bourbon festival thing here in Maryland and was horrified by the Baltimore radio DJs who were obscenely misogynistic during some stupid competition saying things like "you're real dumb but you're real pretty" (much worse but I can't remember specifically beyond that) and the girls who were dressed up like Daisy Duke. I've spent the past two and a half years in a Muslim African country and was not ready to hear the amount of sexism that was shouted out over microphones and see the straight up objectification and degradation of women that goes on here. I was drinking pretty heavily and luckily I made it out of there without getting violent. Audience members shouting, "suck a dick," at female contestants. The host of the tasting simulating sex with a contestant on her hands and knees, DJs being hateful to women while trying to be funny. 
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Mauser posted:I went to a beer and bourbon festival thing here in Maryland and was horrified by the Baltimore radio DJs who were obscenely misogynistic during some stupid competition saying things like "you're real dumb but you're real pretty" (much worse but I can't remember specifically beyond that) and the girls who were dressed up like Daisy Duke. I've spent the past two and a half years in a Muslim African country and was not ready to hear the amount of sexism that was shouted out over microphones and see the straight up objectification and degradation of women that goes on here. You should see Spring Breakers ASAP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw7Se-sCwYM
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ekuNNN posted:These piss me off. FEMEN isn't telling you what you can and can't wear. They're protesting Islamists telling women what they can and can't wear. If you want to wear a niqaab or a Burkah go right ahead, but respect the fact that other women don't share your sense of what is modesty. You know that is from Platoon, right? It's not an actual picture from the Vietnam war. 
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Apr 5, 2013 07:50
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Any political-ish picture works. Statue meant to represent Quechua defeat of a conquistador in Tarabuco, Bolivia.
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"White women who want to become white men" is the worst description of feminism I've ever heard, and reinforces the point that feminism is needed more than ever. Why the hell should being a white male be a desirable thing to be? (Question is 'should', not 'is') (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Guilty posted:"White women who want to become white men" is the worst description of feminism I've ever heard, and reinforces the point that feminism is needed more than ever. Why the hell should being a white male be a desirable thing to be? (Question is 'should', not 'is') This is the D&D pics thread, not the E/N Feminism thread so don't forget a picture.  The symbol of Islamic Feminism, at least according to Wikipedia.
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Pimpmust posted:I watched an interview with FEMEN where that was brought up and according to them that "memorial" was only made up after the fact to smear them To be fair, there could be a plaque lower off the frame, like the cross is sitting on top of a base and the base has a plaque on it. For example:  Cross sitting up on a base, plaque right underneath it. I can't say for sure if the one cut down is one of these monuments, but they're all throughout Ukraine, with many different styles and many of the nations that suffered under Soviet/puppet rule, and it's fairly possible that at least at one time the cross they cut down may have been used as such a memorial. It's possible I suppose that it was made up after the fact but for obvious reasons FEMEN saying it was made up isn't on its own reason to believe it was.
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to be fair every european country was like that, britian just managed to be the best at it. 
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ekuNNN posted:These piss me off. FEMEN isn't telling you what you can and can't wear. They're protesting Islamists telling women what they can and can't wear. If you want to wear a niqaab or a Burkah go right ahead, but respect the fact that other women don't share your sense of what is modesty. I dunno. The more I read about them, the more I feel Femen represent the possible concerns about transnational feminism, and give credibility to postcolonial skeptics. Trying to help the oppressed in other cultures while being caught up in own emancipation discourses with limited significance and comprehensibility outside of one's country, well, that doesn't necessarily help the oppressed to reclaim their subjectivity, and can in fact lead to a mere reformulation of the ongoing objectification. A seminal article on the topic is Spivak's "Can The Subaltern Speak?" about the relation between the intellectual and the postcolonial subject. http://www.mcgill.ca/files/crclaw-discourse/Can_the_subaltern_speak.pdf 
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KoldPT posted:gamers.txt is closed, so I'll drop this here instead. Roger Ebert is dead and I only learn about it through a picture of an anime-avatared gamer being a douche. We live in strange times. 
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Maarak posted:You should see Spring Breakers ASAP: Haven't seen it, but definitely like that she used Ex-Disney-actresses for a hyper-sexualized crime drama. 
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ekuNNN posted:They're protesting islamists telling women what they can and can't wear. If you want to wear a niqaab or a Burkah go right ahead, but respect the fact that other women don't share your sense of what is modesty. That's why I'm critical of those kind of actions. It's just playing into the hands of politicians like Sarkozy who pass those kinds of bans "because feminism!" as if they gave a toss about it. It also rests on the assumption that the Muslim community in France is significantly more sexist and misogynistic than the rest of society. While we're talking about attacking religious symbols, the day before the French wing of FEMEN also burned a "Salafi flag" in front of the Great Mosque of Paris (as if they had anything to do with Salafism). If you look at a picture of it (  for bare breasts) you just see a black flag with the Shahada on it being burned. I really don't see how that's anything but antagonistic towards French Muslims.Anyway here's the French minister of justice staring in disbelief at a senator rambling about homosexuals trying to take over marriage. 
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Barometer posted:A bunch more interesting pictures on imgur here; Fantastic link this one! A great picture from that gallery:  "Tsar Nicholas II goofing around with a friend in 1899." He's now a glorified Saint of the Russian Orthodox Church.
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Isn't the name of the protest "Topless Jihad" Islamophobic as hell? Femen has a problem with religion and it ultimately results in this weird feminist-reddit-atheism. Some of the Femen protest pictures I've seen are women dressing up a horrible bigoted caricatures of Islamic people and figures. There's better (and just as radical) ways of going about this other than debasing the people you're supposedly try support. http://internationalboulevard.com/europe/115-france/194-the-fast-food-feminism-of-the-topless-femen  e: midnightclimax posted:Haven't seen it, but definitely like that she used Ex-Disney-actresses for a hyper-sexualized crime drama. Beats Mushrooms fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Apr 5, 2013 |
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Ho Chi Mint posted:You know that is from Platoon, right? It's not an actual picture from the Vietnam war. Goddamn, I knew I recognised that face  that's what I get for trusting Tumblr descriptions of pictures.
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TinTower posted:It's 11 months since I first went to my GP for my gender dysphoria. I'm still waiting to be referred to the Gender Identity Clinic due to problems with my psych report. I won't see NHS-prescribed hormones until March 2014 at the earliest. I honestly can't remember how long it took me from the point I disclosed my gender dysphoria and I got HRT, but it was about 2 years after I demanded the scripts. And even then I had to go behind the back of my GP because the specialists he sent me to wanted another year. Funny how willing my GP was to give me the kinds of antidepressants reserved for treatment resistant depression as frontline medication, and yet was unwilling to even consider lupron. And when said how this made me feel, well time for more meds. It gets better, for rich white cis dudes. The rest of us can gently caress ourselves I guess? 
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Beats Mushrooms posted:
Ah. He wrote "Kids" and directed "Gummo". Ok, now I can see where this is going. :NSFW: http://i.imgur.com/X7bPXF7.jpg (edit: goddamn can't find the code for that nsfw icon) midnightclimax fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Apr 5, 2013 |
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Ho Chi Mint posted:You know that is from Platoon, right? It's not an actual picture from the Vietnam war. I haven't seen platoon because the way people talk about it it always sounds like a pro-war movie. well, I guess the same goes for Full Metal Jacket though, every "pro war" marine I ever met loves that movie despite it obviously being anti-war. I guess it's kinda like how people think Born in the USA is patriotic, I just don't get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Apr 5, 2013 |
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There is a famous Truffaut statement about there being no such thing as an anti-war film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jWGJ3pyLgs
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