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SnakePlissken
Dec 31, 2009

by zen death robot

Monkey Fracas posted:

Hell, I've heard that poo poo out here in the rural Midwest from some dumber people. (Southern Wisconsin/Northern Illinois) I've similarly heard people go on about "The Jews" a few times with various conspiracy/racist theories plugged in- it's like a big grab bag of stupid bullshit when it comes to prejudices against Jews out here.

I've heard "Jew" used this way in several states of the Union. And getting japped, which I assume is based on an acronym.

The best Jew jokes I've heard have always been told me by Jews. A terribly mild-mannered and modest international conspiracy.

Off topic but y'all might get a hoot out of the lovely goings on at my state's R-dominated legislature. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3032525&goto=lastpost (NC)

SnakePlissken fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Apr 12, 2013

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menino
Jul 27, 2006

Pon De Floor
When I was a kid in Chicago we used to say that the enemies in Double Dragon were being "Jewish" when they wouldn't fight. I think it's universal in its geography and its appeal to people with the minds of 8 year olds.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

SnakePlissken posted:

I've heard "Jew" used this way in several states of the Union. And getting japped, which I assume is based on an acronym.

That's a holdover from WWII, insulting the Japanese instead of Jews or Gypsies.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Phone posted:

The best course of action is going to be to condemn the government surveillance programs with the PATRIOT Act being associated with that socialist, fascist Obama.

You know, the Patriot Act that President Obama signed in during his negative second term back in 2001?

Didn't some Republican try to float a trial balloon about referring to Iraq and Afghanistan as "Obama's wars" or something?

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Here in Arizona it was gypped in the 90s and then that just faded and people started saying jewed in the 2000s. I never hear anyone say gypped at all.

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
Cartman on South Park says "Jewed" a lot and for some reason dumb people think he's an admirable character.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Either that or they think it's ok to say anything you want as long as you do it "ironically", and the most offensive thing you could possibly do is be offended or call something out as offensive.

The same way that being racist is nowhere near as bad as being called a racist.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
Jewed as a synonym of Gypped is pretty common in the Midwest.

At this point I really don't see a future where people aren't saying gypped- I literally had know idea that is was supposed to be a slur until I started spending too much time on the Internet.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

ashgromnies posted:

Cartman on South Park says "Jewed" a lot and for some reason dumb people think he's an admirable character.

I've always loved Matt Stone and Trey Parker's overestimation of their audience. Yeah, let's ironically depict a thing and expect people to actually get what we're trying to say!

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Crasscrab posted:

I've always loved Matt Stone and Trey Parker's overestimation of their audience. Yeah, let's ironically depict a thing and expect people to actually get what we're trying to say!

I haven't watched for a while, but there was supposedly a point where they realized that they had to stop painting Cartman as some sort of evil genius and make him a loser again because redneck idiots didn't get the joke.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Zeroisanumber posted:

I haven't watched for a while, but there was supposedly a point where they realized that they had to stop painting Cartman as some sort of evil genius and make him a loser again because redneck idiots didn't get the joke.

The answer is obviously in the middle.

sicarius
Dec 12, 2002

In brightest day,
In blackest night,
My smugface makes,
women wet....

That's how it goes, right?

Crasscrab posted:

I've always loved Matt Stone and Trey Parker's overestimation of their audience. Yeah, let's ironically depict a thing and expect people to actually get what we're trying to say!

It's been a standard for a long time the comedians are always more socially aware than their audience - I'm pretty sure they knew exactly who their audience was and didn't give a poo poo. There's nothing better than to get the audience laughing at themselves without realizing. At some point, hopefully, those people wake up and realize how horrific they are. Works about 1% of the time, but no one is going to stop trying - especially good comedians.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Zeroisanumber posted:

I haven't watched for a while, but there was supposedly a point where they realized that they had to stop painting Cartman as some sort of evil genius and make him a loser again because redneck idiots didn't get the joke.

Eh. Goes back and forth. Evil sometimes, racist douche bag others.



ed


If you didn't know gypped was racial, do you know where "Welsh on a bet" comes from? :P

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

If you didn't know gypped was racial, do you know where "Welsh on a bet" comes from? :P

From sheep fuckers?

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

sicarius posted:

It's been a standard for a long time the comedians are always more socially aware than their audience - I'm pretty sure they knew exactly who their audience was and didn't give a poo poo. There's nothing better than to get the audience laughing at themselves without realizing. At some point, hopefully, those people wake up and realize how horrific they are. Works about 1% of the time, but no one is going to stop trying - especially good comedians.

Actually from what I've read this phenomenon was a large part of why Dave Chappelle stopped doing his show. He overheard "fans" taking his jokes as explicit racism rather than ironic racism and had a sort of Road to Damascus moment.

quote:

During his third season, Dave began questioning his work on the show. From the very first episode, Dave's sketches sparked controversy. But, over time, he says some of his sketches started to make him feel "socially irresponsible."

One particular sketch still disturbs Dave today. The skit was about a pixie (played by Dave) who appeared in black face, which Dave describes as the "visual personification of the n-word."

"There was a good-spirited intention behind it," Dave says. "So then when I'm on the set, and we're finally taping the sketch, somebody on the set [who] was white laughed in such a way—I know the difference of people laughing with me and people laughing at me—and it was the first time I had ever gotten a laugh that I was uncomfortable with. Not just uncomfortable, but like, should I fire this person?"

After this incident, Dave began thinking about the message he was sending to millions of viewers. Dave says some people understood exactly what he was trying to say with his racially charged comedy...while others got the wrong idea.

"That concerned me," he says. "I don't want black people to be disappointed in me for putting that [message] out there. ... It's a complete moral dilemma."

Read more: http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Chappelles-Story/5#ixzz2QGOhSDbA

http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Chappelles-Story/5

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Actually from what I've read this phenomenon was a large part of why Dave Chappelle stopped doing his show. He overheard "fans" taking his jokes as explicit racism rather than ironic racism and had a sort of Road to Damascus moment.


http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Chappelles-Story/5

I guarantee Chris Rock's "there are black people and then there are..." routine must be the biggest regret of his life. I can't tell you the number of white idiots I run into who think and proudly proclaim "I can say the n word it's not racist you idiot it means ignorant!"

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

greatn posted:

I can't tell you the number of white idiots I run into who think and proudly proclaim "I can say the n word it's not racist you idiot it means ignorant!"

He wouldn't be entirely to blame. "There's a friend of the family in every race" is an old phrase.

Bob James
Nov 15, 2005

by Lowtax
Ultra Carp
Eric Cartman is specifically based off of Archie Bunker from All in the Family. Trey and Matt knew exactly what kind of reaction this type of character would produce.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I've lived in Western WA all my life and I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "jewed" without being ironic about it. Not judging, just reporting. It is an eye opener though.

Fuckt Tupp
Apr 19, 2007

Science
"My name's Dana Perino and I'm here to say, I'm about to embarrass myself nationally in a major way."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5lxJLdAEks

Jay-Z just stepped in it big time for starting this feud.

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

Internet Webguy posted:

"My name's Dana Perino and I'm here to say, I'm about to embarrass myself nationally in a major way."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5lxJLdAEks

Jay-Z just stepped in it big time for starting this feud.

I just cringed to death.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
Fox's reaction to Jay-Z and Beyonce going to Cuba has been hilarious.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
The loss of Chappelle Show broke my loving heart but I got why.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
Real talk, why does every white person doing fake rap start with "My name is ______, and I am here to say..."?

I cannot think of a single actual rap song where this happens.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Probably the absolute worst rap I've ever seen.

Celery Jello
Mar 21, 2005
Slippery Tilde
Their idea of rap hasn't changed since 1976, when saying who you were in a rap was more common?

I mean, Rappers Delight does it like three lines in, not with that exact phrasing, but it'd make sense that it had a formative effect on that. It's almost like that was a joke about white people rapping that got overused to the point it wrapped around and became an ACTUAL problem with white people rapping.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
The main version of this I remember is "My name's Barney Rubble and I'm here to say, I love fruity pebbles in a major way."

Barudak
May 7, 2007

A DENVER FAX posted:

Real talk, why does every white person doing fake rap start with "My name is ______, and I am here to say..."?

I cannot think of a single actual rap song where this happens.

There is no rhyme worse than this and like every rapping PSA in the 90s used that as the opener. In time its become the go to phrase to show being unconnected and stodgy.

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
So what's up with Hannity all of a sudden. I don't listen to him often but I've tuned in at least 4 times over the past 2 weeks and things have changed.

Now, at least once during his program he chats up his female producer and sometimes a female intern they have in the studio. He never did that in the past. He never even spoke to his producer like Rush does with his guy Snerdley, or whatever his name is. Now suddenly, Hannity is having girl talk on a regular basis. Plus, all of the black people he has on his show are suddenly articulate black conservatives and not uneducated crazy fodder for his racist bullshit. Then today, he's interviewing Brian Banks about his case and how he was wrongfully charged and convicted of rape. Hannity is going out of his way to be sympathetic to the guys plight, he even asks if he was sexually assaulted while in prison, and then he talks about how he's actually come to question his own belief in the death penalty. Yes sir, Hannity is all on board now with the idea that you can't execute innocent black men for a crime they never committed cause you know, DNA evidence has proven accurate.

Is this some kind of new uber conservative female/black/minority outreach offensive? Has anybody else noticed this change or am I just misremembering all of the racist bigoted poo poo that Hannity has said in the past.

Celery Jello
Mar 21, 2005
Slippery Tilde

radical meme posted:

So what's up with Hannity all of a sudden. I don't listen to him often but I've tuned in at least 4 times over the past 2 weeks and things have changed.

Now, at least once during his program he chats up his female producer and sometimes a female intern they have in the studio. He never did that in the past. He never even spoke to his producer like Rush does with his guy Snerdley, or whatever his name is. Now suddenly, Hannity is having girl talk on a regular basis. Plus, all of the black people he has on his show are suddenly articulate black conservatives and not uneducated crazy fodder for his racist bullshit. Then today, he's interviewing Brian Banks about his case and how he was wrongfully charged and convicted of rape. Hannity is going out of his way to be sympathetic to the guys plight, he even asks if he was sexually assaulted while in prison, and then he talks about how he's actually come to question his own belief in the death penalty. Yes sir, Hannity is all on board now with the idea that you can't execute innocent black men for a crime they never committed cause you know, DNA evidence has proven accurate.

Is this some kind of new uber conservative female/black/minority outreach offensive? Has anybody else noticed this change or am I just misremembering all of the racist bigoted poo poo that Hannity has said in the past.

Hannity got the memo that you're not supposed to cater to the Tea Party anymore, and unlike Rush, he read it.

swampland
Oct 16, 2007

Dear Mr Cave, if you do not release the bats we will be forced to take legal action

Internet Webguy posted:

"My name's Dana Perino and I'm here to say, I'm about to embarrass myself nationally in a major way."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5lxJLdAEks

Jay-Z just stepped in it big time for starting this feud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9EbOXYenJY

predicto
Jul 22, 2004

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

A DENVER FAX posted:

Real talk, why does every white person doing fake rap start with "My name is ______, and I am here to say..."?

I cannot think of a single actual rap song where this happens.

I'm Chiquita Banana and I'm here to say
bananas have to ripen in a special way
when they're spotted on the outside with a golden hue
bananas taste the best and are the best for you

Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!

Internet Webguy posted:

"My name's Dana Perino and I'm here to say, I'm about to embarrass myself nationally in a major way."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5lxJLdAEks

Jay-Z just stepped in it big time for starting this feud.

It's like a real-life version of the song Pimps, that The Coup did on their second album. Ew.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Barudak posted:

There is no rhyme worse than this and like every rapping PSA in the 90s used that as the opener. In time its become the go to phrase to show being unconnected and stodgy.


You're halfway there, can't forget poochie!

What's that name again? I forgot...

http://youtu.be/KHOMIL_6x7k

None of the Simpsons clips approach the awkward that is Dana there. And they're TRYING to be awkward. Intentionally. On purpose.

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

Pope Guilty posted:

Didn't some Republican try to float a trial balloon about referring to Iraq and Afghanistan as "Obama's wars" or something?

I think I remember this and if so I definitely had forgotten. Not sure who was saying though, that's one of the problems with all this ridiculousness, there's just so much to keep up with it could have been any one of them or 10 of them.

radical meme posted:

So what's up with Hannity all of a sudden. I don't listen to him often but I've tuned in at least 4 times over the past 2 weeks and things have changed.

Now, at least once during his program he chats up his female producer and sometimes a female intern they have in the studio.

I haven't listened to Hannity in a long time but I do recall him doing the producer thing that seemed kind of creepy sometimes...which seems to work for Howard Stern...the creepy thing. :shrug:
A man's got to make a living.

Duncan Doenitz
Nov 17, 2010

There are four lights.

Pope Guilty posted:

Didn't some Republican try to float a trial balloon about referring to Iraq and Afghanistan as "Obama's wars" or something?

I think that was Michael Steele when he was chair of the RNC, he called Afghanistan "a war of Obama's choosing". It might not be a coincidence that he lost the position shortly after that comment.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

Internet Webguy posted:

"My name's Dana Perino and I'm here to say, I'm about to embarrass myself nationally in a major way."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5lxJLdAEks

Jay-Z just stepped in it big time for starting this feud.

LOL and ROFL those "Red Eye" folks are such characters aren't they?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Internet Webguy posted:

"My name's Dana Perino and I'm here to say, I'm about to embarrass myself nationally in a major way."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5lxJLdAEks

Jay-Z just stepped in it big time for starting this feud.

I know he'll just ignore it, but if Jay-Z decided to look down from Hip Hop Valhalla and smite Dana Perino in rhyming verse, I'd probably die laughing.

Refind Chaos
Sep 16, 2007

King of 'tisms mountain

eviltastic posted:

He wouldn't be entirely to blame. "There's a friend of the family in every race" is an old phrase.

Yeah, in south texas, where I grew up, it was "there's a mesican in every race." Unfortunately I didn't realize this was a loving slur for a long rear end time. In my mind it was just saying "everybody has trash and it all stinks," I later realized it was as bad as basically any ethnic slur, and excusing it by saying "in every race" was just as bad as the slur itself, because you were still comparing others to what was seen as the lowest of the low through racism.

Being raised in racist families can make it difficult to parse the racism from acceptable views, but with a bit of thinking and some outside viewpoints it's possible. Unfortunately, many people don't want to be not racist if they were raised that way. The GOP doesn't seem to understand that, not becoming enlightened on this subject, is loving despicable.

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The SituAsian
Oct 29, 2006

I'm a mess in distress
But we're still the best dressed

beatlegs posted:

LOL and ROFL those "Red Eye" folks are such characters aren't they?

Doesn't count since she's not sitting in the legchair :colbert:

Also, the transformation of Dana Perino from White House press secretary to "newsbabe" is....something.

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