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VH4Ever posted:This isn't related to the Marathon ranting going on today (and frankly I could go without hearing it too, god it must be awful today) but I wanted to ask you guys where a certain insane thing Sean Hannity always says about Democrats came from. It's just hyperbole to paint Democrats as being unfairly mean to Republicans when in fact all they're doing is correctly blaming Republicans for obstructionism and trying to gently caress over poor people. It's feeding the conservative persecution complex.
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I despise Mark Steyn (Rush's sub) I can't listen to him. There is just no effort there. He makes Rush look good at what Rush does. I also hate our local afternoon talker. He's a "libertarian" which makes him worse than just being a normal conservative shill because the formula is: liberals suck, they're so dumb, hahaha, I'm smug and smart, I'm a libertarian! Just let the free market decide libtards! Now watch me shill for the local Republican party.
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Apr 19, 2013 19:49
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:I despise Mark Steyn (Rush's sub) I can't listen to him. There is just no effort there. He makes Rush look good at what Rush does. I really can't agree more. He's loving terrible. The entire show was a mix of tasteless and wholly unfunny jokes about Boston, immigration, and the bombings, and bitching about how people don't blow America enough. Rush is at least entertaining to listen to in a hosed up way.
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Apr 19, 2013 20:17
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Hannity just complained about the "liberal compulsion to tie every bad things that happens to political conservatism."
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Apr 19, 2013 20:50
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Hannity just complained about the "liberal compulsion to tie every bad things that happens to political conservatism." Projection.
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Apr 19, 2013 20:58
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Hannity just complained about the "liberal compulsion to tie every bad things that happens to political conservatism." I wonder if he realizes that theocratic Muslim governments are very politically conservative?
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Apr 19, 2013 21:19
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BiggerBoat posted:I wonder if he realizes that theocratic Muslim governments are very politically conservative? He'd say it's the "wrong brand" of conservatism. True Patriot, etc.
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Apr 19, 2013 21:23
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BiggerBoat posted:I wonder if he realizes that theocratic Muslim governments are very politically conservative? I was talking to a hardcore Christian conservative family member the other day who was ranting about someone's skirt being above the knees and the scandal of an engaged couple moving in together and suddenly it hit me. "The one real problem with these Muslim theocracies is that you think they're too harsh and pick on the wrong people, huh? You're right on board with them on a lot of these cover up the women things." My family member looked really embarrassed and partially denied it but it was the same half hearted denial that I always get when its clear she can't actually come up with a counter argument that isn't basically "different god."
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Apr 19, 2013 21:24
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:I despise Mark Steyn (Rush's sub) I can't listen to him. There is just no effort there. He makes Rush look good at what Rush does. There's a few "libertarian" talkers around here too and without exception they're absolutely insufferable. It seems like 99% of libertarians just use the label to double down on fiscal conservatism and supply-side economics and are just "who cares" on social issues because they don't effect their pocketbook. The big one around here literally tells his libertarian callers to ignore social issues because they don't matter and vote Republican. Are there any libertarian talkers out there that care about any "freedom" other than the economic freedom of rich, wealthy Christian males?
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Apr 19, 2013 21:33
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MaxxBot posted:Are there any libertarians No.
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Apr 19, 2013 21:37
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The general Libertarian Talking Point stance on social issues, when pressed, is that they're already moving in the Liberal direction anyway so it's only a matter of time. Therefore we should focus on important issues like their personal income.
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Apr 19, 2013 21:48
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I don't know what it is about libertarianism but somehow it manages to get me angrier than any other ideology. I know it isn't as awful as neo-nazism and doesn't have the same clout as conservatism but something about libertarianism just gets me riled up. I think it's the fact that it claims to be a rational, logical, thinking man's ideology but is really based upon the deification of The Market as some kind of benevolent force for the good of all. "Heh, kid. You and your little Collectivist theories are nice in kindergarten, but here in the Real World us Rational Adults know that the minimum wage is actually a bad thing because the Free Market Fairy will ensure prosperity for all through the power of magic if unrestrained by the bonds of government." They just get so loving smug about it.
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Apr 19, 2013 22:37
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Yeah the way libertarians talk about economic issues really is distinctively worse and more infuriating than when most conservatives do it, even though I agree with the hosts of the local libertarian radio show roughly 30-35% of the time they manage to piss me off more overall than the conservatives do. A couple weeks ago they in the same show argued that "some people just don't deserve $7 an hour" and then one of the hosts said that public school teachers are paid "way above market value" for their work and that they should make less  .
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Apr 19, 2013 22:44
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODZaaMTwfg&feature=youtu.be Glen Beck knows what's actually going on with this whole Boston bombing thing and the Saudi National so he's giving Obama  until Monday to come clean or...
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MaxxBot posted:Yeah the way libertarians talk about economic issues really is distinctively worse and more infuriating than when most conservatives do it, even though I agree with the hosts of the local libertarian radio show roughly 30-35% of the time they manage to piss me off more overall than the conservatives do. A couple weeks ago they in the same show argued that "some people just don't deserve $7 an hour" and then one of the hosts said that public school teachers are paid "way above market value" for their work and that they should make less They justify this view in three ways: 1) Parents need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and homeschool their kids on top of working full time. Public school is just indoctrination and inherently evil due to being funded by tax dollars, and more parents don't homeschool because they are greedy or bad with money, or are just too lazy to give their kids a good education. 2) A more economically efficient model needs to be enacted in the form of online schools. Just allow for one teacher per two thousand kids and let them learn their three R's or whatever via the internet. The future of employment is in the tech sector, anyhow, so why not prepare now? 3) Public school teachers get three whole months off and don't do any real work outside the classroom, right? 
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Apr 20, 2013 00:38
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODZaaMTwfg&feature=youtu.be Some awesome comments. "Why don't you just shut the gently caress up? Who the hell are you to judge someone a nut job? Just because the truth doesn't fit in to your paradigm/reality doesn't mean it's any less truthful. It does show a deep psychological problem of your own though. Denial." "I heard from the main stream media that 30 different government agencies are converging on Boston. Can someone please tell me the names and purpose of those 30 different agencies? I and others that are with me will not be sheep led to slaughter."
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Apr 20, 2013 00:51
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Don't tease the panther. Just don't.
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Apr 20, 2013 01:07
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Breitbart is focusing on the important issues
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Apr 20, 2013 01:23
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What are the chances that Donald Trump isn't being a complete moron about the Boston situation? Nonzero? Bingo!
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Apr 20, 2013 02:52
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Skeeter Green posted:I don't know what it is about libertarianism but somehow it manages to get me angrier than any other ideology. I know it isn't as awful as neo-nazism and doesn't have the same clout as conservatism but something about libertarianism just gets me riled up. I think it's the fact that it claims to be a rational, logical, thinking man's ideology but is really based upon the deification of The Market as some kind of benevolent force for the good of all. Libertarians like to pretend they're all 'progressive' on social issues because they say the government should get out of the way of personal rights. However, they're too loving retarded to realize that their ideology doesn't protect those rights. For all the horseshit they talk about rights and social issues, they've put out the blueprint for a government that can't enforce poo poo.
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Apr 20, 2013 03:04
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Most of the libertarians I've met weren't even socially liberal, they are pretty much bog standard conservative republicans who want to don't want to be associated with the republican brand for whatever reason.
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Axetrain posted:Most of the libertarians I've met weren't even socially liberal, they are pretty much bog standard conservative republicans who want to don't want to be associated with the republican brand for whatever reason. Usually because they are atheists, in my experience. About the only part of modern conservatism they reject is the Christian fundamentalist aspect.
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I'm sure it's a function of being in the south but the few libertarians I know are all also homeschool the kids because public schools are full of secularism along with the blacks and Mexicans variety. Look at Ron Paul; he's just as much a religious kook as he is about everything else.
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Apr 20, 2013 05:36
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Phone posted:What are the chances that Donald Trump isn't being a complete moron about the Boston situation? Oh Donald, you give yourself a public execution everytime you open your mouth.
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Apr 20, 2013 05:58
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swampland posted:Oh Donald, you give yourself a public execution everytime you open your mouth. A fair trial? I DEMAND BLOOD RIGHT THIS MINUTE! 
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Apr 20, 2013 09:37
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Phone posted:What are the chances that Donald Trump isn't being a complete moron about the Boston situation? Is Donald Trump Bipolar?
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He uses money "to keep score", so he's a serious addict and it's pretty likely that has brought a bunch of other psychological issues over time (or vice versa). Either way, not a picture of perfect sanity. Unfortunately society looks up to, rather than down on, his particular addiction, so it works out for him.
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Apr 20, 2013 12:46
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knife super power posted:Is Donald Trump Bipolar? He's legitimately stupid as poo poo but a lot of people use the 'well he has MONEY' logic to assume he's smart and savvy, because hey it would be pretty unjust of the world to let a loving idiot get obscenely rich, yea?
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Apr 20, 2013 15:10
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It would take a loving idiot to bankrupt not one, but two casinos.
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Apr 20, 2013 15:13
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Orange Devil posted:It would take a loving idiot to bankrupt not one, but two casinos. This really can't be said enough, the man went tits up in the casino industry. Twice. Two times the man failed to make money in an industry where the odds are quite literally stacked in your favor at all times.
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I have a hard time believing Donald actually types that stuff himself. If I was him I'd pay an assistant to manage my imbecilic persona. Edit: But here I am typing this. I guess I see the appeal. Though I can't afford someone to manage my social media accounts. It just seems that if I was busy and fairly well off I would have little time for dealing with the plebs. I know it's good for business to maintain and active social media presence but when you just post dumb poo poo all the time doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? Or does Trump just enjoy being a jackass? Is he real? As in totally committed to the hair for personal reasons or just because it makes him that much more ridiculous and marketable. This is my main draw to all this conservative punditry crap: Trying to determine whether or not these people believe what they say...are they actually the people they seem to be? Some are obvious opportunists, some seem sincere, some are just weird. What is real? 
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Tatum Girlparts posted:He's legitimately stupid as poo poo but a lot of people use the 'well he has MONEY' logic to assume he's smart and savvy, because hey it would be pretty unjust of the world to let a loving idiot get obscenely rich, yea? Also, Trump does not have nearly as much money as he always claims to have. He's not really that influential.
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AsInHowe posted:Also, Trump does not have nearly as much money as he always claims to have. He's not really that influential. Well a quick Google search says he's worth somewhere around 3 billion, which is quite a lot.
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Axetrain posted:Well a quick Google search says he's worth somewhere around 3 billion, which is quite a lot. He has assets of around 3 billion, and debts just as high.
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Most of Trump's money is paper/shellgame stuff, he actually makes his living renting his name and blustery persona to other development projects, becoming the public "face" of some new golf course or condo tower. It's why he works so hard to keep his name in the news with his reality show, his Presidential campaign, his wingnut twitter account, and everything else. If he really was the mega-billionaire he presents himself as, he wouldn't shill so hard for his self-help books, his get-rich-quick seminars, and his motivational speaking schedule.
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FMguru posted:Most of Trump's money is paper/shellgame stuff, he actually makes his living renting his name and blustery persona to other development projects, becoming the public "face" of some new golf course or condo tower. It's why he works so hard to keep his name in the news with his reality show, his Presidential campaign, his wingnut twitter account, and everything else. A true American success story. 
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Apr 20, 2013 17:56
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You forgot the $1 world class Trump steaks.
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Apr 20, 2013 18:32
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^^^ Case in point!Tatum Girlparts posted:This really can't be said enough, the man went tits up in the casino industry. Not to defend Trump, but you're confusing revenue generation with overall profitability, you still have to keep your expenses under control. Though that's something you learn in Business 101, so yeah, he's dumb. 
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Apr 20, 2013 18:37
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Crasscrab posted:A true American success story.
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FMguru posted:Did I mention that he inherited his wealth? I already knew this. Doesn't change the amazing success story of a douche bag living a lie.
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