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ethanol posted:You didn't watch the video I told you to watch, I know because you keep posting and the video is 5 minutes long. Would you mind pointing out the part of that video you want us to focus on or no?
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vaginal culture posted:That's not interesting to me I'm sorry to hear that.
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Nessus posted:I think some celebration is in order myself; what dismays me (and which I haven't seen here much) is the people who are going past 'I hope they throw that gently caress in supermax/the chair' into 'he should be immediately tortured to death.' I'm amazed at the people who are yelling about "Watch as obama lets him lawyer up!" and "I hope we don't even give this fucker a trial -- just let some wild dogs in to rip him apart". It's just some ultra-wizard level dumbness right there, you really want to live in a country that does that poo poo? That arbitrarily suspends the law, or decides that the law only applies to certain people? "Equality for some; Murder for most". It's like staging a riot and throwing cement blocks through your own window, why would you do that
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mcsquared posted:I thought we already had like twitter accounts, youtube accounts etc. which might have shed some light on this, I was confused is all? You think you have a monopoly on caring about this poo poo? I have family in Boston too, so gently caress off with the attitude, god drat. Stop being a loving crybaby and make this about you. gently caress off.
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Muck and Mire posted:Would you mind pointing out the part of that video you want us to focus on or no? The part where why doesn't matter. (for the classification of this as terrorism) ethanol fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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Apr 20, 2013 04:08
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So did they release the guy that got molested by robots? Cause that's got to entitle you to a round of drinks at least.
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I don't believe that federal law enforcement is going into a questioning deciding not to mirandize somebody. They do it, almost automaticaaly, then let the defense explain why waiver was not freely and voluntarily given. To completely refrain from doing it is a bold (but foolish) move. However the arrest is totally kosher so long as it is supported by probable cause.
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I'm not sensing a whole lot of civility in this thread. < >
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This is how I imagine the arrest went down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRg7kf9ltbw
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We are an increasingly atomized society so occasions like this when everyone can put aside their differences and celebrate a bit are pretty cool to see
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:I'm amazed at the people who are yelling about "Watch as obama lets him lawyer up!" and "I hope we don't even give this fucker a trial -- just let some wild dogs in to rip him apart". It's just some ultra-wizard level dumbness right there, you really want to live in a country that does that poo poo? That arbitrarily suspends the law, or decides that the law only applies to certain people? "Equality for some; Murder for most". It's like staging a riot and throwing cement blocks through your own window, why would you do that
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I really hope that those sexbots don't become a thing in this country.
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Apr 20, 2013 04:10
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ethanol posted:The part where why doesn't matter. And why on earth would that be the case?
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Gonz posted:I really hope that those sexbots don't become a thing in this country. 
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Muck and Mire posted:And why on earth would that be the case? Because people are using it as an excuse to say/argue with each other this is not terrorism. It clearly. Is.
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Gonz posted:I really hope that those sexbots don't become a thing in this country.
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Nessus posted:I, obviously, disagree. I think you meant to use 
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I really hope the kid doesn't turn out to be some sociopath that was brainwashed by his older brother. I'd like to empathize with him and learn why he did the poo poo he did and how he rationalized it in his mind. Something other than "I'm crazy and bro told me to do it".
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X-post from the D&D thread regarding Tsarnaev being read his Miranda rights and questioning: I was reading an FBI article on the "Public Safety Clause", and police will only ask him "those questions necessary for the police "to secure their own safety or the safety of the public". More than likely, they will ask him if he and his brother left additional bombs that haven't been discovered, or if others were involved/additional attacks were planned. A benefit for investigators would be that anything he admits during the course of this questioning is still admissible in court. quote:In U.S. v. Khalil, New York City police officers raided an apartment in Brooklyn after they received information that Khalil and Abu Mezer had bombs in their apartment and were planning to detonate them.36 During the raid, both men were shot and wounded as one of them grabbed the gun of a police officer and the other crawled toward a black bag believed to contain a bomb. When the officers looked inside the black bag, they saw pipe bombs and observed that a switch on one bomb was flipped. After questioning related to topics like those mentioned, I would assume he will be Mirandized.
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OMG BYZANTIUM posted:So did they release the guy that got molested by robots? Cause that's got to entitle you to a round of drinks at least. The guy's father took his shotgun and forced the robots to wed his son after defiling him in such a way. They're currently on their honeymoon.
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tempus posted:I don't believe that federal law enforcement is going into a questioning deciding not to mirandize somebody. They do it, almost automaticaaly, then let the defense explain why waiver was not freely and voluntarily given. To completely refrain from doing it is a bold (but foolish) move. However the arrest is totally kosher so long as it is supported by probable cause. People are rarely mirandized the second they are arrested. It usually happens at the station before they are questioned. The handcuffs and miranda reading is mostly a movie thing. Because this is a dude who likes making half a dozen bombs and placing them in fun places, they used an exception to ask him about threats to the public and only those specific threats, not general questions. He also can choose not to speak and lawyer up at any time. Miranda is simply a warning, not an application of rights.
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So just before white hat was taken into custody, there was a bunch of stuff on the scanner about reporters getting way to close to where the boat was and the police trying to get them away. Two idiot CNN reporters just basically admitted it was them. Saying how they were sneaking, trying to get close to the scene and taking video of the boat... you know, the scene where the police didn't want media cause dozens of shots were just fired and there were possibly explosives around. e-CNN just reported he's in serious condition, as opposed to critical.
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vaginal culture posted:We are an increasingly atomized society so occasions like this when everyone can put aside their differences and celebrate a bit are pretty cool to see Ironically enough, society is so fragmented, and possesses so many diverse opinions and ways of life, that it's almost safer to have everyone disagree, but in a civil fashion. The only instances where everyone bands together in an emotionally and ideologically homogeneous mass are typically in environments founded by hatred, fear, or shared suffering. Not the sort of environment you want a society to be stuck in perpetually just for the sake of verbal concord.
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Rino posted:Whoa hey let's not get too hasty here. I don't want to be stopped while jogging and have machines take my clothes off and molest me.
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Gonz posted:I really hope that those sexbots don't become a thing in this country. They're learning 
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WastedJoker posted:I hope he lives so we can learn to appreciate his reasons for his actions and then You don't get to use the courts as a forum to legitimize your social criticisms when you blow up kids, sorry.
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Wait....what if sex robot orgy guy is ALSO blue robe guy?!
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ethanol posted:Because people are using it as an excuse to say this is not terrorism. There's no set definition of terrorism and based on the last 10 years of American history it's a word that means everything and nothing. This was a bad thing that happened but labeling it terrorism or not is just semantics.
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vaginal culture posted:We are an increasingly atomized society so occasions like this when everyone can put aside their differences and celebrate a bit are pretty cool to see Everything about the outcome is great. The victims will get the best justice possible under the circumstances. The police, FBI, everyone did a fantastic job and showed what good police work is. I'm really proud of the Massachusetts people in general, they handled it as well as possible and deserve to have a great weekend after dealing with so much pain and dread. Let them celebrate finally getting a break and some positive news.
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video of what appears to be the final firefight in Watertown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=796UFHldHM4
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:Ironically enough, society is so fragmented, and possesses so many diverse opinions and ways of life, that it's almost safer to have everyone disagree, but in a civil fashion. The only instances where everyone bands together in an emotionally and ideologically homogeneous mass are typically in environments founded by hatred, fear, or shared suffering. Not the sort of environment you want a society to be stuck in perpetually just for the sake of verbal concord. This isn't really true at all.
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Muck and Mire posted:There's no set definition of terrorism and based on the last 10 years of American history it's a word that means everything and nothing. This was a bad thing that happened but labeling it terrorism or not is just semantics. Well ok sure whatever.  I'm tired of this anyways.
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Psycho bomber child is captured Atmosphere of fear is lifted Whats not to be happy about again?
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vanbags posted:I really hope the kid doesn't turn out to be some sociopath that was brainwashed by his older brother. I'd like to empathize with him and learn why he did the poo poo he did and how he rationalized it in his mind. Definitely. Everything I've heard about the guy would suggest that he was totally normal and mentally stable. He was popular at university, had lots of friends, even his twitter seems like any 19 year old freshman. He did live with his brother though, and while maybe not a sociopath, he may have been slowly radicalized by him. The whole situation is just so hosed up and tragic. I can't wait for him to talk about it. Everything up to the kid saying it himself is just going to be speculation, of course.
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Gonz posted:I don't want to be stopped while jogging and have machines take my clothes off and molest me. So you'd ruin it for the rest of us? 
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Muck and Mire posted:And why on earth would that be the case? Because after a certain point motives are academic compared to the fact that he killed several people.
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Wilhelm_Scream.wav posted:Psycho bomber child is captured Something about this 19 year old's life being ruined, I guess.
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Godholio posted:Something about this 19 year old's life being ruined, I guess. He ruined it himself.
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vanbags posted:I really hope the kid doesn't turn out to be some sociopath that was brainwashed by his older brother. I'd like to empathize with him and learn why he did the poo poo he did and how he rationalized it in his mind. I guaranfuckingtee you that is going to be his defense. We may hear of his brother's ideologies, but "I was influenced by my brother" is pretty much his only viable defense at this point.
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