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9031 | 65.25% |
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No Conference = Nothing to mock. No wonder people on the Internet are shocked and annoyed.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:01
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Super Mario, Pikmin 3, WarioWare, Yoshi, Wii Fit U, Monolith Soft's X and Mario Kart isn't too bad but something like Metroid or Star Fox wouldn't hurt either. Of course multiplatform games like Grand Theft Auto V would also help but I don't know how likely that is.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:06
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Some people are thinking that Take-Two may be announcing the next-gen console versions of GTA5 at next month's conference call and webcast, which typically has lots of information about upcoming games and sometimes announcements of new games.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:13
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:No Conference = Nothing to mock. Nintendo could show off anything in their conference and people would still mock it. As for GTAV on the Wii U, yea that's never gonna happen.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:19
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Alteisen posted:As for GTAV on the Wii U, yea that's never gonna happen. Why Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty but not Grand Theft Auto? Lack of analogue triggers?
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Apr 25, 2013 08:27
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Alteisen posted:As for GTAV on the Wii U, yea that's never gonna happen. Are you just not buying it or have information because everything I see has said the rumour is it'll be revealed for Wii U by next week. GTA V is a title Nintendo should be throwing money at to ensure it comes out for the Wii U.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:27
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I think somebody mentioned before that Rockstar has this "corporate culture" where they don't like Nintendo because Nintendo is for babies or something like that. Of course that person could've just been talking poo poo.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:29
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Are you just not buying it or have information because everything I see has said the rumour is it'll be revealed for Wii U by next week. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but I haven't seen a single credible source for the rumors. Every article I've read about it has been poorly written and fanboyish and totally misquoting their sources.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:30
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:GTA V is a title Nintendo should be throwing money at to ensure it comes out for the Wii U. Why? It would certainly help satisfaction of the current userbase of the system, but the GTA fanbase isn't going to buy a Wii U for a title they can already play on their PS3/360. It would be nice, but it's not something they need to be throwing money at.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:31
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Box of Bunnies posted:Why? It would certainly help satisfaction of the current userbase of the system, but the GTA fanbase isn't going to buy a system for a title they can already play on their PS3/360. This is an odd argument. People want more third party games on the Wii U but Nintendo shouldn't throw money at GTAV because most people will just get it for 360/PS3? Every game that isn't 360 exclusive or PS3 exclusive that is coming out for those consoles should be coming out for the Wii U.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:32
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Box of Bunnies posted:Why? It would certainly help satisfaction of the current userbase of the system, but the GTA fanbase isn't going to buy a Wii U for a title they can already play on their PS3/360. Sometimes people old enough to play GTA are new to video games and don't have a console yet.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:34
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:This is an odd argument. People want more third party games on the Wii U but Nintendo shouldn't throw money at GTAV because most people will just get it for 360/PS3? If Nintendo doesn't get third-party games, then that is bad for the Wii U. But if the Wii U gets third-party games and they aren't exclusive then people will just buy it for the 360/PS3, so they have to get exclusive third-party games. But then they got Bayonetta 2 and a lot of people got pissed off about that on the internet. I don't know how else to put it, but that's the kind of thing I see when it comes to the issue of Nintendo consoles and third-party support. And I don't know how that issue could be fixed in regards to opinions on the matter.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:36
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Every game that isn't 360 exclusive or PS3 exclusive that is coming out for those consoles should be coming out for the Wii U. Certainly, but to the extent that Nintendo should be "throwing money at it/them"? AngryCaterpillar posted:Sometimes people old enough to play GTA are new to video games and don't have a console yet. Those people would probably see a much better value proposition in either of the systems that GTA5 is currently coming to.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:37
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Box of Bunnies posted:Those people would probably see a much better value proposition in either of the systems that GTA5 is currently coming to. The comparative value between the Wii U and the other consoles is another question and depends on whether they find Nintendo's exclusives worthwhile.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:44
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Just so people know, this is the article that spawned all the GTA V rumors: http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/16872/20130421/gta-5-release-date-pc-wii-u.htm This is my totally scientific breakdown of it earlier in the thread: Crowbear posted:Oh man that GTA5 article. It definitely piqued my interest until I actually read it. I also missed the fact that they got the date for the earnings call wrong.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:46
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Are you just not buying it or have information because everything I see has said the rumour is it'll be revealed for Wii U by next week. I just don't see it, like at all given Nintendo's image, nor have I ever seen Rockstar EVER expressing any interest in developing for a Nintendo console, so far the only GTA game that exists on a Nintendo machine was made by Rockstar Leeds and they usually work on portables. I will be extremely surprised if it happens.
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Apr 25, 2013 08:46
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Alteisen posted:I just don't see it, like at all given Nintendo's image, nor have I ever seen Rockstar EVER expressing any interest in developing for a Nintendo console, so far the only GTA game that exists on a Nintendo machine was made by Rockstar Leeds and they usually work on portables.
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Apr 25, 2013 09:00
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AngryCaterpillar posted:Sometimes people old enough to play GTA are new to video games and don't have a console yet. But the other consoles will likely play the game just as well (especially if it was another janky port), at a lower cost than the Wii U, with clearly larger libraries of games available right now, with more still on the way. Sure, you can argue that the Wii U's library, including Wii games, adds significant value, and I'd agree. I think the only Wii U game I've played more than my old Wii games as of late is Monster Hunter. But if we want to start talking about backward compatibility and/or digital content for the Wii U, you also have to let that be counted for the other competing consoles as well, and even there the Wii U looks significantly less feature packed. It's not that GTA on the Wii U can't happen. Hell, it'd be nice for people who own the thing and are looking for something else to play on it. I don't particularly see it as a system seller that's going to solve the Wii U's woes, though. The system itself failed to recapture that new set of gamers that hopped onto the Wii, and it's probably going to take an effort very similar to what happened with the 3DS to turn that around. Unless they keep spending/start spending a lot of money to guarantee third-party releases of every major multiplatform game on the system, publishers and developers will still be able to use the very valid excuse of "There's just not a large enough number of potential sales to justify the effort of a port to the Wii U right now." The Wii 'proved' that third party support from major franchises doesn't actually matter if you aim for a completely different market. Unfortunately it seems like that same group of customers that propelled the Wii to the level of success it had aren't motivated to move to the Wii U right now, for a wide variety of reasons.
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Apr 25, 2013 09:06
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So just so I have this straight. Nobody's buying Wii Us. The majority of Americans don't know what it is, or that it's a new system. And the media narrative is that the system is dead on arrival. So how is hiding away behind closed doors and going small scale at E3 helping the perception of the Wii U as something that exists? "We'll be overshadowed" is not a good excuse. Have a fuckin hour and a half meeting where you just have Reggie come out and shout IT'S A NEW CONSOLE, IT'S A NEW CONSOLE, IT'S A NEW CONSOLE, IT'S A NEW CONSOLE, IT'S NOT AN ACCESSORY over and over again. The marketing department needs to be fired, fired again somehow, then rehired so that they can be fired a third time. This isn't "doom and gloom" posting, just "what are they doing" posting. They could be doing so much better if they just knew how to market the drat thing. How anyone at Nintendo can look at their marketing approach over the past year, what that's translated to in sales and public perception, and think "We clearly need to have less of a presence" is frankly baffling. I say this not as an armchair financialman but as a guy witnessing someone crying of thirst taking a glass of water and pouring it out on the ground. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Apr 25, 2013 |
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Apr 25, 2013 09:51
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It's completely ridiculous how they just flat out refuse to utter the words "WE HAVE A NEW CONSOLE". Advertisements talk about the "new Wii U" and the latest batch of American ads (you know the ones with "actual Wii U owners") talk about "upgrading to the Wii U". Just SAY that it's a new console and that's it. The marketing of the console is so badly done that it boggles the mind. Things will get better once Mario Kart and 3D Mario get here but man...
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Apr 25, 2013 10:09
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Miiverse on browser is so smooth and quick. Pretty much the opposite of the WiiU miiverse as someone else said. Until it gets more fleshed out though, I don't see the point. It's pretty much an odd gaming reddit with way less people on it. quote:So just so I have this straight. Nobody's buying Wii Us. The majority of Americans don't know what it is, or that it's a new system. And the media narrative is that the system is dead on arrival. This post is so spot-on. If they dial it back for E3 that would be the worst idea ever. They need to have a loving roaring show or else they WILL be overshadowed and sales will continue to suck rear end.
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Apr 25, 2013 10:20
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Quest For Glory II posted:So just so I have this straight. Nobody's buying Wii Us. The majority of Americans don't know what it is, or that it's a new system. And the media narrative is that the system is dead on arrival. How is the same conference that they do every year going to help? They couldn't have made it any clearer that the Wii U is a new thing that exists at last years E3 but the average consumer pays no attention to Gaming Expos. The kind of people that watch internet streams of video game presentations already know what the Wii U is.
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Apr 25, 2013 10:23
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E3 conferences aren't relevant to the kind of consumer that doesn't yet understand what a Wii U is, and the standard conference apparently didn't do the trick last year. Are they supposed to blow a massive budget on a huge celebrity-laden event that no one in the market they need to target will see? EDIT: And honestly, if you look at the wording, it seems like they're still angling for a software presentation that will include everything gamers give a poo poo about and less filler. Jeez, talk about a meltdown over nothing. Supercar Gautier fucked around with this message at 10:29 on Apr 25, 2013 |
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Apr 25, 2013 10:25
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Quest For Glory II posted:So just so I have this straight. Nobody's buying Wii Us. The majority of Americans don't know what it is, or that it's a new system. And the media narrative is that the system is dead on arrival. The most  thing about it is that with the 3DS they had already seen the consequences of failing to differentiate a new system from its predeccesor in the eyes of the public. Then they saw this happen again with the confused reaction to the reveal of the Wii U at E3 2011, and still did nothing about it!
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Apr 25, 2013 10:34
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The mourning of a Nintendo keynote from E3 (while there will be nintendo directs) is something I expect from people who adored Wind Waker. (Or who dislike LTTP2).
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Apr 25, 2013 11:31
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I just realised that miiverse launch should lead to some nice postable in game screenshots, Neogaf has a thread about it, they seem to come out looking pretty nice: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=546720 for example:    
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Apr 25, 2013 11:40
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It might be Pikmin 3 being almost a year late, but no conference to me reads that they just don't have enough games running.
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Apr 25, 2013 11:47
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ghostwritingduck posted:It might be Pikmin 3 being almost a year late, but no conference to me reads that they just don't have enough games running. quote:"[A]t the E3 show this year," he states, "we are planning to host a few smaller events that are specifically focused on our software lineup for the U.S. market. There will be one closed event for American distributors, and we will hold another closed hands-on experience event, for mainly the Western gaming media."
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Apr 25, 2013 11:58
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With the Wii release schedule being dead for the past few years, besides a couple of localised JRPGs, you'd think they'd have more Wii U games nearing completion. I don't understand why Mario Kart wasn't a launch game, since MKWii came out years ago, and 7 was outsourced to Retro Studios. If you can get 5 people playing the same game, with someone getting a screen of their own, then the benefits of the Wii U become clear to anyone playing it.
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Apr 25, 2013 12:03
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That loving Sned posted:I don't understand why Mario Kart wasn't a launch game, since MKWii came out years ago, and 7 was outsourced to Retro Studios. If you can get 5 people playing the same game, with someone getting a screen of their own, then the benefits of the Wii U become clear to anyone playing it. Retro only did the... retro courses. The rest was done by EAD1.
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Apr 25, 2013 12:10
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Rayman got bumped up the release schedule to August 30. That's, what, a month earlier?
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Apr 25, 2013 12:26
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Fabulous Knight posted:It's completely ridiculous how they just flat out refuse to utter the words "WE HAVE A NEW CONSOLE". Advertisements talk about the "new Wii U" and the latest batch of American ads (you know the ones with "actual Wii U owners") talk about "upgrading to the Wii U". Just SAY that it's a new console and that's it. The marketing of the console is so badly done that it boggles the mind. Things will get better once Mario Kart and 3D Mario get here but man... I have yet to see a Wii U commercial this calendar year, and the ones I did see featured a game with the same wow factor as a bowl of cold oatmeal (NSMB; good game, but not what you lead with if you want to differentiate yourself from your last system). It didn't help that said game was mostly shown from a distance as a "real family" was cavorting and overacting in the discount section of their local Ikea. I can't believe I'm saying this, but those racist squirrel cartoons did a better job of hocking the PSP than Nintendo is doing with the Wii U.
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Apr 25, 2013 12:51
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Viewtiful Jew posted:Wait how are the gaming press going to rate their big press conference if there's no big press conference to arbitrarily rate? You're being pretty unfair to them Nintendo.  I think alot of people have never really taken any stock in what Geoff Keighley thinks. I'm actually impressed by Nintendo's decision to not have a huge presentation. I think they realize that it's really just been a stupid game of who out of the big three can make the most outlandish and over the top announcements for a long time now. Nintendo Directs have been far more beneficial for I think for the consumer/public to see what's ahead, rather than making everyone wait for E3 or TGS every year for major announcements. I mean the biggest announcement they made there in the past few shows was just about the WiiU, never really any specifics about the system itself till Nintendo Directs later on.
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Apr 25, 2013 13:05
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Rayman got bumped up the release schedule to August 30. That's, what, a month earlier? So only 6 months later than it should've been out. At least the challenge stuff hits the eShop today. Speaking of which, wasn't the OS update supposed to come out yesterday?
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Apr 25, 2013 13:05
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njsykora posted:So only 6 months later than it should've been out. At least the challenge stuff hits the eShop today. Speaking of which, wasn't the OS update supposed to come out yesterday? Sometime today, last I heard, with the VC dropping tomorrow.
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Apr 25, 2013 13:08
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It would have to be today since there are only two days left in the week, unless they're gonna start dropping updates and virtual console on Saturdays and Sundays.
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Apr 25, 2013 13:20
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Is there a particular capture card that would work really well with the Wii U? I'm trying, a hem a haw, to find a good one that will let me capture high quality footage. Gonna be doing some LP's when the new games drop.
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Apr 25, 2013 13:32
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HarveyVdarski posted:Is there a particular capture card that would work really well with the Wii U? I'm trying, a hem a haw, to find a good one that will let me capture high quality footage. Gonna be doing some LP's when the new games drop. I have this one and it works perfectly with everything. It supports just about every input under the sun too.
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Apr 25, 2013 13:50
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Count me down as being disappointed with the lack of emphasis on E3. I mean yeah, they weren't going to "win" when going up against the PS4 and Xbox 560 conferences this year but if they'd been like Xbox 06 (where they unveiled Gears and maybe Halo 3 too?) they would have at least put out a big sign saying "we're still here and we're still great." To be frank I think this is a mistake, despite what some people in this thread have said E3 is the one time of the year that newspapers and other news organizations give a drat about gaming stuff and Nintendo de-emphasizing their conference will not help them get the word out to Johnny Idiot with his all white living room and laughing mime family. Maybe its just that, having announced all those games that they are showing at E3 they have little to actually announce now and a bunch of stuff to show off, which could be adequately covered by floor presentations?
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Oh hey here's a thing I missed from the investor meeting yesterday: https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/327260418181574657 quote:Nintendo said advertising expense doesn't rise much this yr because of efficiency of using Nintendo direct and social media and eshop "We used Nintendo directs and social media and eshop to advertise last year and people still don't know poo poo about the console so therefore we are doing the exact same thing this year  "Also RE: delays https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/327261322272198656 quote:Nintendo explaining software delays said it was because people had to work on hardware more than planned and min expectations rising I'm not sure exactly what this means. Were their software studios actually working on the Wii U hardware? Crowbear fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Apr 25, 2013 |
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