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Samurai Sanders posted:So, I hear the end of the new area is a ridiculous status effect war, is there any combination of equipment that can protect you in any meaningful way? A dragonforged Tattered Mantle is a great place to start. 10% resist to every debilitation. edit: beaten.
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You can skip all the escort quests in the main content, right? I worry mostly about Quina since I know she ends up at the church eventually but I can't remember if you have to do the prayer fall escort or not.
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You really need to be able to just turn the lantern on and off without having to put it away every time. I keep getting knocked into the water and dousing the light and having to fight in pitch blackness and it's getting kind of old.
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Lotish posted:You really need to be able to just turn the lantern on and off without having to put it away every time. I keep getting knocked into the water and dousing the light and having to fight in pitch blackness and it's getting kind of old. Until you get a Ring of Dessication then you have to rely on Clean Cloth.
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My (european, PS3) copy just arrived and I am not sure about those bonus items mentioned (I own DD and have a save file). Can I import a save into Dark Arisen and then start a new game and still get the unlimited ferry stone and stuff? Or do I have to continue my imported Arisens storypath? I really want to start from scratch in DA... Also I own most of the DLCs, are they integrated into my storage when imported, or do I have to buy them from the mountebank ('cause that would suck)? If anyone can clarify, I would be very grateful! 
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Apr 26, 2013 05:10
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Tyskil posted:Also I had a question, I noticed on bitterblack isle the lady who does everything can change your class for you unless I'm an idiot and reading menus wrong, does that mean that you can change class before getting to Gran Soren now? Just checked at level 10 and before doing the quest to escort the head to Gran Soren, yes you can change your class on Bitterblack Isle.  TectonicForce posted:My (european, PS3) copy just arrived and I am not sure about those bonus items mentioned (I own DD and have a save file). Can I import a save into Dark Arisen and then start a new game and still get the unlimited ferry stone and stuff? Or do I have to continue my imported Arisens storypath? I really want to start from scratch in DA... You can start a new game with the bonuses. None of the DLC from the original game does anything in Dark Arisen.
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Lunethex posted:Until you get a Ring of Dessication then you have to rely on Clean Cloth. Wait, really? Just use one and it starts your lantern again? tooooooo bad posted:You can start a new game with the bonuses. None of the DLC from the original game does anything in Dark Arisen. I thought Dark Arisen included all the DLC from the original? Pretty sure that's the reason you can level so fast in the beginning if you choose to do quests instead of advancing the story, the sheer amount of quests the DLC adds all but guarantees you'll do them accidentally just by going about your normal business.
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Wrist Watch posted:Wait, really? Just use one and it starts your lantern again? Yes, using a cloth after getting drenched and the lantern lights again immediately. Very handy, I used to carry around 10 cloth pieces at once.
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Apr 26, 2013 06:09
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Rascyc posted:You can skip all the escort quests in the main content, right? I worry mostly about Quina since I know she ends up at the church eventually but I can't remember if you have to do the prayer fall escort or not. As far as I know, the only thing escort quests do is raise (maybe max out) that NPC's affinity/affection level, so even the ones that do vaguely tie into stories like Quina's do are completely optional. Lunethex posted:Yes, using a cloth after getting drenched and the lantern lights again immediately. Very handy, I used to carry around 10 cloth pieces at once. a kitten fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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Apr 26, 2013 06:20
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Well poo poo, I apparently locked myself out of the Everfall thingy you guys keep talking about because I thought the post game was just part of the normal game and I'm apparently stuck in new game+. I finished the game at level 49 do you think I could manage the DA content? I don't want to run through the whole game again just to get back to the Everfall 
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Apr 26, 2013 06:20
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It looks like I've made it to the final boss room as a big angry voice yelled at me when I walked in but I'm expecting it to take forever so I had to stop for the night. I should probably go back and re-supply but there didn't look to be any shortcut back to the surface from there so it would take ages to run all the way back down and I'm sure all of those rear end in a top hat evil pawns would be back. So I'm gonna try it with what I've got. Plus the vendor guy doesn't even stay in one loving place.
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Apr 26, 2013 06:22
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Lakbay posted:Well poo poo, I apparently locked myself out of the Everfall thingy you guys keep talking about because I thought the post game was just part of the normal game and I'm apparently stuck in new game+. I finished the game at level 49 do you think I could manage the DA content? I don't want to run through the whole game again just to get back to the Everfall
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Apr 26, 2013 06:23
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Samurai Sanders posted:You can do it stupid fast though, there are only like ten actual story missions between game start and everfall, and you should be able to oneshot all the enemies. Dammit, oh well guess I'll use the wiki to complete the side quests I missed and go visit the dungeons that I missed as well.
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Apr 26, 2013 06:42
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Wrist Watch posted:Wait, really? Just use one and it starts your lantern again? It does, but it doesn't care whether or not you paid real money for it before. Any DLC equipment you bought before Dark Arisen won't just appear in your storage now like it would in the original game. It has to be bought from vendors using in-game currency. That's what he was asking.
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Wrist Watch posted:Wait, really? Just use one and it starts your lantern again?
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Apr 26, 2013 07:10
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Holy poo poo, the boss monsters in the new content are the biggest HP sponges ever. I spent what must have been more than half an hour trying to kill an elder ogre because my sorcerer pawn got instagibbed by something (probably an executioner) and disappeared before I noticed, and my mage only had ice affinity on her. The stupid thing's HP budged at about a tick of health every 10 seconds. I've gotta be doing something wrong. Not even that room that was full of the three garms, two ogres, and maelstrom pawns took as long as that fight did. On the upside, it's pretty fun seeing how the lower leveled goon pawns I've hired do. One of them managed to do some damage to Death before he floated away, in between falling asleep every few seconds.
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Okay, can someone explain affinity again when it comes to romance choice again? It goes by affinity level, then the last person you max out?
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Figured I'd go ahead and post this since I've been working on this the past 3 hours, I got some amazing equipment in Bitterblack Isle (decided to take the fall on a few purifications) and got my pawn's new set. Phone image due to being unable to center the camera at all properly. Black hair is the pawn. All except the dragon headband and undershirt "Bliaut" are from the expansion, and right now I'm about to rarefy that robe to top quality, which means after that PunkBoy posted:Okay, can someone explain affinity again when it comes to romance choice again? It goes by affinity level, then the last person you max out? It's a weird system but the only way to be sure on who you're romancing is to give them the Arisen's Bond, and, to make sure whoever else you've been talking to for the whole game isn't glowing pink or having that little jingle when you talk to them. Affinity goes up with presents and even just talking to them. Draw your weapon in front of them to make them hate you. Lunethex fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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Man Bitterblack Isle is everything I've always dreamed of. It's a lot of fun to do it simultaneously with the main quest, too. Do a floor of Bitterblack, come across some sort of massive brick wall, go back out, do story stuff, go back in... Plus I just loving adore all the secret poo poo all over the place. Only problem is it makes me never want to play as a Fighter/Warrior in there, due to lack of movement skills.
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Is there a comprehensive guide to inclinations?
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:Is there a comprehensive guide to inclinations? This has all you need to know. RatHat fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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tooooooo bad posted:Just checked at level 10 and before doing the quest to escort the head to Gran Soren, yes you can change your class on Bitterblack Isle. This is the best news to come out of this expansion yet. Now I can't decide if my next playthrough is going to be a Megaman Challenge run with a mage or if I'm going to just hop over to bitterblack and see how hard it is to play a ranger two hours before you can conceivably get a longbow.
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Oh man, after struggling to beat Daimon's second form, I finally came back and beat it. Turns out my original strategy of climbing it and using hundred kisses while immolated/fireshrouded was not nearly as effective as drawing the Daimon towards the entrance and using Ricochet Shot I took off like 6 bars of health or so just with Ricochet shot in the time that I took off maybe 2-3 bars with a climbing build (secret augments and all) in just a few minutes. I even stunlocked him during that period of time, where he flinched a shitload of times. Guess I should've relied more on my magick bow than I should have relied on my daggers  Ricochet Shot's definitely my MVP skill of the DLC.
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Do the augments that effect arrows also apply to the magick archer's projectiles? I tried googling it but all I got were "magick archer sux" posts all over the internet. Also are some of the mage and sorceror augments mandatory for magick archer? I can't tell if I'm doing alot of damage or not
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Magick Archer's stat growth is particularly bad, which is why a lot of people don't like it. If you want to have effective damage output, you should level up more as a mage or sorcerer, since they get high Magic Attack levels when you gain a level. I'm not sure if those Augments apply to Magick Archer, the arrow related ones and the magic damage boosting ones. The one that decreases casting time doesn't seem to effect magic bow skills.
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The whole Stat Growth thing is weird in DD. I mean technically speaking, you can level as anything and swap around at high levels and still be effective. But if you want to hard-minmax, yeah, then you're looking at it. IMO, none of the hybrid classes have amazing stat growth *overall.* Assassin has the highest attack growth in the game, period, but it's Defense, Magic Defense, Magic, and HP are all crap. It's HP gain is barely better than the Mage(22 per level to the Mage's and Magick Archer's 21.) It does, however, have good Stamina gain. (Keep in mind, though-while the huge Attack boost is nice...Magic weapons, like the Heaven's Keys, work off of both Strength AND Magic and tend to be better overall than plain Strength weapons.) I think Assassin is generally seen as the 'stat class' due to it's big Attack and Stamina boosts overall. I'd say in terms of stat distribution, the 'best' classes are actually the Ranger or Strider. Ranger has a lower HP gain(21), but a pretty solid Attack/Magic gain(4 and 3, respectively), it's defenses aren't that hot(2), but it's MdF is 2 compared to the Assassin's 1. I usually suggest that if you're a type that likes to minmax but still wants to be good at a variety of classes at high level, leveling as a Ranger for awhile isn't a bad idea. Warrior has the best HP gain, but REALLY Lousy Stamina; but coupled with the Ranger's Best stamina and it can give a nice HP boost and have the Ranger's Stam sorta counter-act it. Now Strider has a flat 3/3/3/2 gain(2 in MdF as well), but it gains more HP than the Ranger(25), but has a bit less Stam per level(25 opposed to 30.) Both Ranger and Strider are decent picks, come to think of it. Mystic Knight could stand to use an extra Attack point, but in terms of being 'Tanky' it's a pretty good setup(30 HP, 20 Stam, 2/3/3/3 stats.) Building a Tanky type, splitting between Fighter and Mystic Knight isn't a bad deal by the look(with maybe a lil' Warrior in there for another HP boost.) Of course if you ONLY, say, care about Magic or Attack, defenses or HP be damned, then it's Sorc and Assassin, all the way. Interesting thing on the stat growth: All classes except for Sorcerer and Magick Archer have 11 points that are divided up between their Strength, Magic, Defense, and Magic Defense. Sorc has 13 and MK has 12. (Now, this doesn't take into account the HP.)
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What level is it a good idea to start doing the new content?
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Tyskil posted:This is the best news to come out of this expansion yet. It's entirely possible to go to Bitterblack and switch to any job you want and get their weapons. I don't just mean luck of the draw with chests either (although I did get super lucky and find an archstaff almost immediately), there's a dude you meet who can sell you the lowest tier of any class's weapon once you get past the first area. He'll draw a knife on you, you can't exactly miss him.
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Stormgale posted:What level is it a good idea to start doing the new content? Level 50 is the recommended minimum level by Capcom.
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Anyone know what's behind the Moonbeam Gem doors? I've found three of the keys. I normally run with my warrior and a fighter or ranger pawn, so if one of those doors has something that suits those classes I want to open that one first. And are the keys in fixed locations like the memory slabs or can they respawn?
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My copy failed to arrive today - so much for Amazon Prime. So, while I wait, anyone delved into the supposedly-expanded Everfall? I recall one official video showed a notable new boss there. And have they revised the 'post-game' world at all?
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Lotish posted:Anyone know what's behind the Moonbeam Gem doors? I've found three of the keys. I normally run with my warrior and a fighter or ranger pawn, so if one of those doors has something that suits those classes I want to open that one first. I think one of the doors had a longbow that was good, but I forget which door had it. There was a good shield in another one, which I think was a Fighter shield, but it might've been a mystic knight shield. I completely forget what I've gotten from the other doors, but I think they were solid armor pieces, like Immortal Armor pieces. The moonbeam gems don't seem to respawn, except the one after beating the last boss, which you can rechallenge. For the Moonbeam gems, there's one in the Lost City. There's a corpse holding it while crouched over. I want to say it's near the cliff face that you can walk to if you hug the right wall. There's one in Warrior's Respite. Above Barroch, there's a semi-hidden room you can climb to from where the bed/notice board are. There's one in the other checkpoint-ish thing, which is lying on the ground near Barroch. There's one in one of the dark sewer/tunnel-ish areas (I forget which one), which can be lit up with the rift crystal lanterns, and later gets populated by Possessed Armor. If you enter the area normally, I believe it's somewhere along the right wall, but that one I just randomly stumbled upon, so I can't remember too well. The other two I've gotten were from beating Daimon.
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On the subject of Amazon, the game seems to be getting cheaper in the UK for some strange reason. Amazon UK have the 360 version for £17 ($26) now, and the PS3 version for £15 ($23). Crazy. Edit: For some reason, the original Dragon's Dogma costs more.
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The original costs more because despite DA's expanded content and additional monster types in the overworld, when I play Dragon's Dogma the wind is pushing me into the current again.
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The pawn situation in Dark Arisen is getting to be a real bummer. You can't rate or gift items to pawns from the original game but it's nearly impossible to find pawns that are from Dark Arisen. I've never seen even one in the rift. Means you're basically never going to have your pawn getting rented out by randos anymore. No more rating terrible pawns, putting actual clothes on all of those little girls running around, or sending dumb gifts to jerks. I guess it's good that RC is slightly more common in the world now but they really should do something about this.
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tooooooo bad posted:The pawn situation in Dark Arisen is getting to be a real bummer. You can't rate or gift items to pawns from the original game but it's nearly impossible to find pawns that are from Dark Arisen. I've never seen even one in the rift. Means you're basically never going to have your pawn getting rented out by randos anymore. No more rating terrible pawns, putting actual clothes on all of those little girls running around, or sending dumb gifts to jerks. I guess it's good that RC is slightly more common in the world now but they really should do something about this. One thing I hate are getting obviously NG+ pawns who are like level 20 with 800 attack power Everfall weapons, heh. I don't want you doing all the damage!
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tooooooo bad posted:The pawn situation in Dark Arisen is getting to be a real bummer. You can't rate or gift items to pawns from the original game but it's nearly impossible to find pawns that are from Dark Arisen. I've never seen even one in the rift. Means you're basically never going to have your pawn getting rented out by randos anymore. No more rating terrible pawns, putting actual clothes on all of those little girls running around, or sending dumb gifts to jerks. I guess it's good that RC is slightly more common in the world now but they really should do something about this. I've seen plenty of Dark Arisen pawns although I'm around level 90. My pawn was rented twice by other random Dark Arisen players too although it appears she died both times, probably to Death. I've never been able to release one properly with a rating and gift yet either since they always die every time he shows up.
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Gyoru posted:Level 50 is the recommended minimum level by Capcom. While it's the minimum recommended, don't let that stop you from going in a bit at low levels to challenge yourself. You can get some good loot extremely early if you don't mind some tough fights and running away. It's a lot of fun to challenge yourself to do the first floor as soon as you possibly can.
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I literally stunlocked Daimon to death with Magick Archer, Ricochet Hunter, and the little entrance alcove thing (and two liquid vims). Magick Archer top tier class.
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Down a few levels on the isle, my pawns started shouting "It's a troubling foe!", and red rings started appearing around me and them. The ring seemed to kill one of them, and another just disappeared. Any idea what that was? I never saw the enemy they were talking about.
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