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JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Zorak posted:


It's either that or we get into the Dragon Ball Z territory, except even worse: filler filler filler filler filler pad pad pad pad pad pad. Or Naruto which had like two years of episodes that had nothing to do with anything.


Attack on Titan: Fumoffu wouldn't be a bad idea, actually. They can showcase some of the more light-hearted slice of life scenes of the Recon Corps that take place in between them being splattered by and/or eaten by Titans.

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SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~

Bremen posted:

Anime only endings aren't always terrible. There was also Trigun. And... uh... I'm sure something will come to me.

The first Fullmetal Alchemist.

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

SpazmasterX posted:

The first Fullmetal Alchemist.

Ah yes, alchemy comes from another world, also dragons, and Nazis.

Soulcleaver
Sep 25, 2007

Murderer

JosephWongKS posted:

Attack on Titan: Fumoffu wouldn't be a bad idea, actually. They can showcase some of the more light-hearted slice of life scenes of the Recon Corps that take place in between them being splattered by and/or eaten by Titans.
We already got a wacky schoolkids spinoff gag comic for those who want levity. No filler; god hates filler. All titans all the time.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

SpazmasterX posted:

The first Fullmetal Alchemist.

The first FMA was an awesome show. Whether the anime only ending lived up to the rest of the series is more debatable.

And it's indeed hard to imagine how they'd handle filler in this series.

AndroidHub
Feb 28, 2007

I've seen some stuff that would really make you say "like what?"
gently caress the haters, Sasha just loves food, and with good reason since food is obviously scarce post-titan invasion. But she went loving beast mode there at the end to save samuel by launching a hook through his leg.

Hikarusa
Sep 8, 2011

Zorak posted:

The main issue that would lead to an anime-original ending is the rate at which the manga is produced vs the rate the anime is produced. The manga comes out on a monthly basis. Episodes of the anime come out at a weekly basis, and cover multiple chapters at once. Either they have a second season years from now or they try to do something else to conclude this first season.

The chance of them just going "ok middle of the action aaaand scene" is unlikely.

It's either that or we get into the Dragon Ball Z territory, except even worse: filler filler filler filler filler pad pad pad pad pad pad. Or Naruto which had like two years of episodes that had nothing to do with anything.

Considering that the manga will still be ahead, they could probably do a 13 episode season both next year and the year after and still be fine, though after that they'd likely have to wait longer than a year.

Cless Alvein
May 25, 2007
Bloopity Bloo

Bremen posted:

Anime only endings aren't always terrible. There was also Trigun. And... uh... I'm sure something will come to me.

Elfen Lied. I read the manga after blowing through that show a couple years back and well uh yeah. I'm glad they went with an original ending instead of waiting for whatever the gently caress the manga ending was.

lodoubt
Apr 9, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Pretty sure that even as it stands there's enough material for a second season, juuust. But it would be nice to, you know, actually finish the story after 48-54 episodes have passed.

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009

JosephWongKS posted:

Attack on Titan: Fumoffu wouldn't be a bad idea, actually. They can showcase some of the more light-hearted slice of life scenes of the Recon Corps that take place in between them being splattered by and/or eaten by Titans.

Attack on Pantry: Advance of the Sasha.

chami
Mar 28, 2011

Keep it classy, boys~
Fun Shoe

AndroidHub posted:

gently caress the haters, Sasha just loves food, and with good reason since food is obviously scarce post-titan invasion. But she went loving beast mode there at the end to save samuel by launching a hook through his leg.

If they wanted to pile on the tragedy they could point out that she should have killed him with the sudden stop Gwen Stacy style. :smith:

of bees
Dec 28, 2009
Would they actually leave the show and come back to it later? I heard somewhere that the reason most places did shitloads of filler instead of stopping and restarting once more material came out was because it was better to put out crap and have people keep watching crap than to hope people still remember the series several months/years down the line.

Azzents
Oct 19, 2010

"Quoting, like smoking, is a dirty habit to which I am devoted."

of bees posted:

Would they actually leave the show and come back to it later? I heard somewhere that the reason most places did shitloads of filler instead of stopping and restarting once more material came out was because it was better to put out crap and have people keep watching crap than to hope people still remember the series several months/years down the line.

I think getting time slots are really cut throat in Japan and if they aren't putting stuff out they'll lose their slot to next show without any guarantee that they'll get it back. So once a show gets a good slot they'd rather slog out filler than stop and start when they have better content.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Azzents posted:

I think getting time slots are really cut throat in Japan and if they aren't putting stuff out they'll lose their slot to next show without any guarantee that they'll get it back. So once a show gets a good slot they'd rather slog out filler than stop and start when they have better content.

This is all very true, but it only applies to shows that have a mainstream time slot such that they don't need to rely on dvd/blu-ray sales alone. Or in other words, shows that air during a time when most people are awake.

Attack on Titan isn't one of those, as it airs at 2AM. The odds that a second season would have the exact same timeslot are slim, but when it's at 2AM on a Sunday it really doesn't matter.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005

of bees posted:

Would they actually leave the show and come back to it later? I heard somewhere that the reason most places did shitloads of filler instead of stopping and restarting once more material came out was because it was better to put out crap and have people keep watching crap than to hope people still remember the series several months/years down the line.

They could. Some anime have done that and just re-aired the original before the new season came out.

After all, it's from DVDs/BDs they make most of their money rather than the TV airing. The TV airing is just an ad for the DVD/BDs.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Bremen posted:

Anime only endings aren't always terrible. There was also Trigun. And... uh... I'm sure something will come to me.

Usagi Drop, thank god.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Bremen posted:

Anime only endings aren't always terrible. There was also Trigun. And... uh... I'm sure something will come to me.

It's not necessarily an anime-only ending, but I'm glad the Golden Boy OVA ended where it did. From what I hear, the manga after that point was less funny and more just porn.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


chami posted:

If they wanted to pile on the tragedy they could point out that she should have killed him with the sudden stop Gwen Stacy style. :smith:

That's why she went for the leg. Sasha owns and I hope we get a post-Titan kill scene where she suggests eating one. Because you know she would if she's hungry enough.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Bremen posted:

Anime only endings aren't always terrible. There was also Trigun. And... uh... I'm sure something will come to me.

The ending to the X TV series was technically better than the manga because it actually had one.

Housh
Jul 9, 2001




So anyone else think the people in the centre of the kingdom are controlling/creating the Titans?

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Happy Noodle Boy posted:

That's why she went for the leg. Sasha owns and I hope we get a post-Titan kill scene where she suggests eating one. Because you know she would if she's hungry enough.

I'd be amazed if this didn't happen, it'd be stupid not to.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
I really love how the show is sparing no expense at showing you just how much Eren hates the Titans. I honestly expected the anime to downplay it a little bit, but if anything it's playing it up. When your sole desire in life revolves around the genocide of a species, it's pretty damned impressive that you manage to inspire your friends to join your cause. He's like a Captain Ahab that everyone agrees with, and it's lovely.:allears:

Go RV!
Jun 19, 2008

Uglier on the inside.

Housh posted:

So anyone else think the people in the centre of the kingdom are controlling/creating the Titans?

Is that before or after Eren finally makes it outside the walls and finds out that he's actually living in the modern day?

(please don't let either of those things actually happen)

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

njsykora posted:

I'd be amazed if this didn't happen, it'd be stupid not to.

I think you've got your definitions of what would be really stupid backwards.

thetrin
May 4, 2009

I pull down the curtain, wantin to do me some dirtin aint nuthin better then jerkin my gerkin so I start with some flirtin

But my magic find aint working so I can't do no spurtin its got Wirt's feelins all hurtin, and his wooden leg stops all perking

Go RV! posted:

Is that before or after Eren finally makes it outside the walls and finds out that he's actually living in the modern day?

(please don't let either of those things actually happen)

Yeah, I'd rather not have this turn out to be The Village: the anime. The whole premise is pretty killer, and I really hope they don't invalidate it like that.

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It

Captain Invictus posted:

I think you've got your definitions of what would be really stupid backwards.
In the Attack on Titan, you eat or you die.

Popo
Apr 24, 2008

Homestuck is a true work of art surpassing all of Shakespeare's works.

Jackard posted:

In the Attack on Titan, you eat or you die.

Sometimes both, at the same time. It's like two snakes eating the each other's tail. Only one of the snakes is a Titan.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Go RV! posted:

Is that before or after Eren finally makes it outside the walls and finds out that he's actually living in the modern day?

(please don't let either of those things actually happen)

They can see outside the walls, I think they'd know if there was other civilization.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

RatHat posted:

They can see outside the walls, I think they'd know if there was other civilization.

How does no humans or human structures visible for a few miles prove that there's no other civilization?

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

Gyges posted:

How does no humans or human structures visible for a few miles prove that there's no other civilization?

If you believe the measurements given, the inside of the walls are larger than France.

Soulcleaver
Sep 25, 2007

Murderer
I gotta agree that the Colossal Titan suddenly appearing in a flash of lightning was a bit comical. The scene would have been utterly mortifying if it had slowly lifted its head above the wall, signaling the advancing dread that the titans bring.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side

Bremen posted:

If you believe the measurements given, the inside of the walls are larger than France.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean that 20 miles outside of the outermost walls there isn't another civilisation

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Paperhouse posted:

Yeah, but that doesn't mean that 20 miles outside of the outermost walls there isn't another civilisation

This is a really weird thing to worry about when there hasn't been the slightest evidence of it.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side
I don't think anybody is "worried" about it, just suggesting that these people live in an incredibly confined world and have absolutely no idea what else might be beyond the walls they want to break out from. It is quite possible the show will go into this

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

Don't the recon squads go out of the walls to hunt titans? If there was anything out there nearby they surely would have seen the giant rear end walls those people presumably would live in.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Davincie posted:

Don't the recon squads go out of the walls to hunt titans? If there was anything out there nearby they surely would have seen the giant rear end walls those people presumably would live in.

Yeah, there are scouts who leave the wall for some reason. They were in episode 1 and 4, and they're the group the main characters are planning on joining.

Overlord K
Jun 14, 2009
I liked the giant titan just suddenly BAM appearing. It left me feeling for more shocked than if they had some slooooooow pan as he peeked over, with every single character on the wall having a reaction shot as he did, before they all got knocked off and had the follow up. Hell, they could have got out of there faster if they did that. Still, at this point I suspect the fact he just suddenly appears with a bolt out of the blue is an actual thing somehow, since he did it the first time.

Also Sasha is amazing and I hope she doesn't end up becoming the food she so loves. ... at least not until much later. :smith:

Joshlemagne
Mar 6, 2013

Zorak posted:

The main issue that would lead to an anime-original ending is the rate at which the manga is produced vs the rate the anime is produced. The manga comes out on a monthly basis. Episodes of the anime come out at a weekly basis, and cover multiple chapters at once. Either they have a second season years from now or they try to do something else to conclude this first season.

The chance of them just going "ok middle of the action aaaand scene" is unlikely.

It's either that or we get into the Dragon Ball Z territory, except even worse: filler filler filler filler filler pad pad pad pad pad pad. Or Naruto which had like two years of episodes that had nothing to do with anything.

This is a bit back in the thread but to expand on this a monthly manga generally seems to come out at a rate of roughly one volume per year. From what I've seen it takes around 5-6 volumes at least for a 13 episode series, which can vary a lot depending on various factors, but just as a rule of thumb. There were ten volumes of Titan manga out last I checked. So it's very possible they will basically go all the way to where the manga is now for this series. After that it would take in the neighborhood of ten years for the manga to have enough material for a second season. At that point you're more into remake territory than second season. Although there have been shows like Slayers with some pretty significant gaps between seasons, I think most were not as focused on a continuing story.

Keep in mind also that Dragon Ball and Naruto are both weekly series and so have material coming out a pretty steady clip but still need filler and padding. Basically what I'm saying is prepare your hearts for an original ending. And then to find out what really happens in the manga.

Hikarusa
Sep 8, 2011

Joshlemagne posted:

This is a bit back in the thread but to expand on this a monthly manga generally seems to come out at a rate of roughly one volume per year. From what I've seen it takes around 5-6 volumes at least for a 13 episode series, which can vary a lot depending on various factors, but just as a rule of thumb. There were ten volumes of Titan manga out last I checked. So it's very possible they will basically go all the way to where the manga is now for this series. After that it would take in the neighborhood of ten years for the manga to have enough material for a second season. At that point you're more into remake territory than second season. Although there have been shows like Slayers with some pretty significant gaps between seasons, I think most were not as focused on a continuing story.

Keep in mind also that Dragon Ball and Naruto are both weekly series and so have material coming out a pretty steady clip but still need filler and padding. Basically what I'm saying is prepare your hearts for an original ending. And then to find out what really happens in the manga.

...What the gently caress? Attack on titan started in september 2009. Why would it take a year for a single volume? Are you expecting 12 chapter volumes? So 60-72 chapters per 13 episodes? There is literally nothing about this post that makes the slightest bit of sense.

Edit: No, but seriously now. Depending on how this adaptation and the manga go, they could probably do a 13 episode add-on per year for the next two or three years.

Hikarusa fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Apr 30, 2013

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Doctor w-rw-rw-
Jun 24, 2008
Monthly manga are often 3x the side of normal chapters, so volumes typically have 3-4 chapters, not 12. I think 5-6 volumes for that would be 15-20-ish chapters, so a 26-episode series isn't unreasonable. Alternatively, if they change up the pacing a bit, I can see them stretching it out a bit further than that.

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