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Vertical Lime posted:Here's a spotlight on a bad Jason Collins piece: what the loving christ, how did presumably numerous editors actually allow this to go through I wish Nielsen and every other piece of poo poo saying poo poo like this would allow for the thought to occur to them that gay people don't want, or need, the "FORGIVENESS" or "MERCY" of anyone who values milleniums-old interpretations of a book full of subjective opinions over basic loving human rights, and they sure as poo poo don't care that some asshat with his head so far up his rear end that he can't tell it's 20-loving-13 has decided they're all sinners and require the salvation of someone else's god, lest they be forced to serve the rest of their eternity into damnation Also this 100% secondary, as the anti-gay feces that seeped from his brain was so utterly distracting as to blind me from journalism's own cardinal sin, and it took two people pointing it out on Twitter for me to notice it, but: holy poo poo all the loving one-sentence paragraphs. There were exactly 23 of them, out of 24 paragraphs. and the singular paragraph that isn't a one-sentence paragraph is a three-sentence paragraph with a one-word sentence. Aside from offending all possible sensibilities as a human, you'd also think it was written by a hosed-up sixth grader, in terms of pure readability Welp that was fun. Hey speaking of things that should never appear in a real loving newspaper, the Detroit News apparently had Bleacher Reprt guest-editor it yesterday: a Top 50 WAGs slideshow. Not to say that newspapers and real journalism are dying or whatever, but these pieces of actual poo poo, put in print, are where beliefs like that come from
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Bullshit slide shows don't really bother me unless it's the only thing a site provides or if a story is shoehorned into the format. It's just like the horoscopes or comic strips; it's popular and provides some money for actual reportage, and it's easy enough to ignore. The Detroit News at least seems to be aware of how skeezy a WAG list is, since they're promising a Husbands, Athletes and Boyfriends follow-up.
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morestuff posted:Bullshit slide shows don't really bother me unless it's the only thing a site provides or if a story is shoehorned into the format. It's just like the horoscopes or comic strips; it's popular and provides some money for actual reportage, and it's easy enough to ignore. The Detroit News at least seems to be aware of how skeezy a WAG list is, since they're promising a Husbands, Athletes and Boyfriends follow-up. I don't know, I think if they were aware how sleazy it is they just wouldn't have done it??? ah, drat... this is a paradox. jeez.
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uublog posted:I wish Nielsen and every other piece of poo poo saying poo poo like this would allow for the thought to occur to them that gay people don't want, or need, the "FORGIVENESS" or "MERCY" of anyone who values milleniums-old interpretations of a book full of subjective opinions over basic loving human rights, and they sure as poo poo don't care that some asshat with his head so far up his rear end that he can't tell it's 20-loving-13 has decided they're all sinners and require the salvation of someone else's god, lest they be forced to serve the rest of their eternity into damnation Not that I think it redeems these folks in any way, but you might want to be careful making blanket statements about what "gay people don't want or need". You're in danger of agreeing with all those idiots who say gay people can't be Christian, even if you're framing it as Christians being the bad guys.
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You all missed the best part: He compared Jason Collins' homosexuality to Shawn Kemp's proclivity for fathering illegitimate children.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:You all missed the best part: He compared Jason Collins' homosexuality to Shawn Kemp's proclivity for fathering illegitimate children. And made no attempt to connect the two!
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morestuff posted:Bullshit slide shows don't really bother me unless it's the only thing a site provides or if a story is shoehorned into the format. It's just like the horoscopes or comic strips; it's popular and provides some money for actual reportage, and it's easy enough to ignore. The Detroit News at least seems to be aware of how skeezy a WAG list is, since they're promising a Husbands, Athletes and Boyfriends follow-up. I guess if any American city is making a HABs list, it's Hockeytown.
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Ribsauce posted:I don't watch ESPN outside of actual sports (and 30/30 sometimes) but did Leach's Washington State behavior receive anywhere near the same coverage? Given that I have the vaguest recollections of Leach even being a WSU in the first place, I'm with "nowhere near the same coverage."
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:You all missed the best part: He compared Jason Collins' homosexuality to Shawn Kemp's proclivity for fathering illegitimate children.
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Crazy Ted posted:Hey now, Shawn Kemp's ability to father children was loving Herculean if not heroic. I think his nickname was actually "Rain Man" because of his ability to rain semen on any woman he saw. What a visual
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1. Shawn Kemp = Promiscuous 2. All Gays = Promiscuous 3. (All Gays[Jason Collins]) Ergo, Jason Collins is like Shawn Kemp. I see his logic 
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:how the gently caress does chris broussard go to oberlin and come out with those views Yet as long as Lena Dunham exists, he's not the person I detest the most from that school.
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hcreight posted:Michelle Malkin is an Oberlin grad. She really ought to win that title. holy poo poo i had no idea wow
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Dr_Strangelove posted:1. Shawn Kemp = Promiscuous Sex out of heterosexual wedlock is wrong, according to the Bible. Both committed these sins,ergo Collins is like Kemp ( my note WE ARE ALL LIKE THESE 2 according to the Bible). ManifunkDestiny fucked around with this message at 14:42 on May 6, 2013 |
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:holy poo poo i had no idea wow Also, a friendly reminder: this is the same woman who wrote an entire book centered on the main idea that the United States government's internment of Japanese citizens during World War II was a good decision - good policy and good for the safety of those Japanese-Americans.
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Crazy Ted posted:Yep. Part of what pushed her all the way to the right as opposed to just being a moderate Republican was her experience at what she termed "radically Left-Wing" Oberlin. Look, freezing tar paper shacks on the plains of Wyoming are good for your health, OK?
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Dr_Strangelove posted:Look, freezing tar paper shacks on the plains of Wyoming are good for your health, OK? Tell that to Mr Miyagi 
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Darren Rovell everybody https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/331909389965475840 quote:No one forces people to work at Nike factories. They work there to make a living and are given what the marketplace says they're worth.
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Vertical Lime posted:Darren Rovell everybody Holy poo poo.
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Vertical Lime posted:Darren Rovell everybody Sweatshops exist because they're able to pay the workers much more than what they'd get in other occupations in those countries. They're terrible though, and there is absolutely no excuse for Nike, Levi and others to not accept anything more than the highest working condition standards for their employees. Everything from safety to decent work hours should be mandatory. Little kids should not be toiling away on a pair of loving sneakers on only 4 hours sleep. That's disgusting and wrong. Darren Rovell is also an idiot. FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 01:24 on May 8, 2013 |
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Time Traveling Darren Rovell in NYC on March 26, 1911 posted:These girls weren't forced to work here. If they didn't like being locked inside a building such that they couldn't get out when a horrific fire started, they could have looked for work elsewhere. Hey New York, there's 146 job openings in the garment district!
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It's a stupid opinion but a majority of Americans agrees with him. The most common retort I heard/read after the Bangladesh factory collapse was WHY DID THEY GO IN THEN IF THEY KNEW THE FACTORY WAS COLLAPSING THEY COULD JUST GET ANOTHER JOB I think the jobless are taking out their anger on those with actual poo poo jobs by using that rhetoric again and again
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Badfinger posted:Is there some outlet (not twitter replies) at ESPN where you can report behavior like Rovell's? Lipsyte being hired might be a very good thing, the dude is kind of a giant and not a douche. Here's a good New Republic summation: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/113010/espn-ombudsman-robert-lipsyte-interviewed-marc-tracy
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Rovell has been doing this stupid poo poo for years. I can only guess that ESPN likes the attention it brings. ESPN has also had good ombudsman's in the past and it never changed anything.
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Personally I don't get how Rovell can object to those mocking and ridiculing him. If he didn't want to be criticized and called a shithead and told to drink bleach and whatever else, he should've just not said really offensive things in a public forum like Twitter.
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uublog posted:Personally I don't get how Rovell can object to those mocking and ridiculing him. If he didn't want to be criticized and called a shithead and told to drink bleach and whatever else, he should've just not said really offensive things in a public forum like Twitter. He doesn't think he did say a really offensive thing.
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Mornacale posted:He doesn't think he did say a really offensive thing. Better yet: if he doesn't want to be criticized in public, he should just not exist in public
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uublog posted:Better yet: if he doesn't want to be criticized in public, he should just not exist in public If he didn't want me digging through his garbage he shouldn't have tried to express himself creatively.
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Mornacale posted:He doesn't think he did say a really offensive thing. Yep, he seems completely oblivious to coming across like a self-important shithead. This article is darrenrovell.txt. http://deadspin.com/5882348/darren-rovell-is-super-pissed-about-the-state-of-the-playboy-super-bowl-party-playboy-bunny-strikes-back
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Will Leitch wrote a pro-read takedown of Rovell awhile back. http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/41529820/
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I thought this was an interesting piece that talks about the Blackhawks hypocrisy in demanding the firing of Susannah Collins. I also think it brings up a weird line that is crossed when teams own the networks that they play on. Josh Mora was also let go a couple years ago from the station for breaking a story that the Blackhawks didn't want out. There is a lot of talk of conflicts of interest when it comes to ESPN, but NBC puts their name on these regional networks and deserve the same criticism.
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Niwrad posted:I thought this was an interesting piece that talks about the Blackhawks hypocrisy in demanding the firing of Susannah Collins. Holy christ quote:Hull’s second wife, Joanne, whom he wed in 1960 and divorced in 1980, told an ESPN documentary in 2002 that she “took a real beating” at his hands. She described an incident during which Hull “threw me in the room, and just proceeded to knock the heck out of me. He took my shoe – with a steel heel – and proceeded to hit me in the head. I was covered with blood. And I can remember him holding me over the balcony, and I thought this is the end, I’m going.” Remember that all of your favorite sports heroes are actually terrible people when they're *not* playing dumb sports for millions upon millions of dollars uublog fucked around with this message at 06:43 on May 8, 2013 |
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Speaking of which, y'all better go read Pat Jordan's 1984 piece on Steve Carlton. quote:He believes that the last eight U.S. presidents have been guilty of treason, that President Clinton "has a black son" he won't acknowledge and that his wife, Hillary, "is a dyke," and that the AIDS virus was created at a secret Maryland biological warfare laboratory "to get rid of gays and blacks, and now they have a strain of the virus that can live ten days in the air or on a plate of food, because you know who most of the waiters are," and finally, that most of the mass murderers in this country who open fire indiscriminately in fast-food restaurants "are hypnotized to kill those people and then themselves immediately afterwards," as in the movie The Manchurian Candidate. He blinks once, twice, and says, "Who hypnotizes them? They do!"
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Also, read Brian Phillips' piece on the Iditarod right now because it's more important than anything you've ever read and it might be the most important sports story written in years beginning with a 2.
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BTW, that same writer from the Hull article above wrote this about the totally awesome You Can Play project:quote:When the first active pro hockey player comes out, the support structure will have been there for some time, thanks to the “You Can Play” efforts of Patrick Burke, a Flyers scout and the son of Brian Burke, the former GM of Hartford, Vancouver, Anaheim, Toronto and the most recent U.S. Olympic team. Patrick’s openly-gay brother, Brendan, was killed in a car accident in 2010, and he chose to honor his memory by working to create a welcoming atmosphere for a hockey player who happens to be gay. Methinks this Dan Bernstein guy is one of the better ones Also worth mentioning on this topic is the many It Gets Better videos
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Speaking of which, y'all better go read Pat Jordan's 1984 piece on Steve Carlton. He should get together with Darren Daulton and Lenny Dykstra sometime, that'd be a gooooooood night
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