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JetGrind
Apr 5, 2012

Tagging the streets and humming the bassline.
After the really interesting ARG, I've been pretty interested in Boards of Canada. Where should I start, and is there a recommended order of listening?

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slowdave
Jun 18, 2008

JetGrind posted:

After the really interesting ARG, I've been pretty interested in Boards of Canada. Where should I start, and is there a recommended order of listening?

In my opinion the order goes Geogaddi -> In a Beautiful Place Out in the Country -> Twoism -> Music Has the Right to Children -> Campfire Headphase, Trans Canada Highway

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

JetGrind posted:

After the really interesting ARG, I've been pretty interested in Boards of Canada. Where should I start, and is there a recommended order of listening?

Campfire Headphase is their latest studio album and definitely their most accessible. Their other albums (and their EPs, too), Music Has The Right To Children and Geogaddi, are incredible...maybe even moreso than Campfire Headphase, but I'd wager that they're a lot harder for newcomers to get into. So I guess I'd say start with Campfire Headphase, and if you really like it and want to explore them further, work your way backwards with the albums. Then after you're done the albums, check out all their EPs.

That's what I did. I got into them around the time Campfire Headphase came out and my worked my way backwards from there. I don't think it would have been better for me to explore them any other way.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Where do I start with Nine Inch Nails?

Wyatt
Jul 7, 2009

NOOOOOOOOOO.

LordPants posted:

Where do I start with Nine Inch Nails?

The simplest thing to do would be to listen to their first two albums, Pretty Hate Machine and The Downward Spiral. If you like the heavier industrial stuff, you can then check out the EP Broken, which came out in between them. If you liked what you heard on The Downward Spiral, check out their third album, The Fragile.

me your dad
Jul 25, 2006

Wyatt posted:

The simplest thing to do would be to listen to their first two albums, Pretty Hate Machine and The Downward Spiral. If you like the heavier industrial stuff, you can then check out the EP Broken, which came out in between them. If you liked what you heard on The Downward Spiral, check out their third album, The Fragile.

And if you like Broken, check out the remix album Fixed.

Trier
Aug 8, 2011

Stupid Newbie
Where do I start with The Cure?

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

Trier posted:

Where do I start with The Cure?

Start with Standing on the Beach: The Singles, which is a definitive singles collection of their seminal early work. If you like the poppy fare, check out [/i]Head on the Door[/I] and Three Imaginary Boys. If you prefer their darker material, go for Seventeen Seconds, Faith, and Pornography (the dark trilogy). The Cure have a pretty formidable discography, but honestly all of those releases up until and including Disintegration are amazing albums. Other people on here might argue that you should start with one of their later single compilations, that envelops both the earlier classic 80's material and their output in the 90's. However, I still maintain their best work was done before 1990.

The albums after Disintegration are extremely hit or miss, with Wish containing both a ridiculously popular single and at the same time one of the most nauseating songs ever recorded. Everything from that album on, is very much a pick and choose affair.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

LordPants posted:

Where do I start with Nine Inch Nails?

Their first album, Pretty Hate Machien, is definitely more amateurish than their later stuff, and has more of a pop / dancey vibe. Broken is NIN at their hardest and most metal, and is a great album. The Downward Spiral is NIN / Trent Reznor at his creative peak and the best album imo. The follow-up, The Fragile, is somewhat more introspective and a good album as well though it takes a few more listens to get into.

I'd say start with TDS and then go with Broken and The Fragile. If you really get into NIN then you can explore PHM and post-Fragile albums.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


regulargonzalez posted:

I'd say start with TDS and then go with Broken and The Fragile. If you really get into NIN then you can explore PHM and post-Fragile albums.

I agree, and in that order.

Trier
Aug 8, 2011

Stupid Newbie
How about Bowie, where do I start with him?

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

Trier posted:

How about Bowie, where do I start with him?

Bowie has such a formidable discography, that he could easily be the subject of his own mega thread. Therefore, my answer will probably not do proper justice but I might as well take a crack at it. I think starting with his glam period is an ideal entry point. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars contains a few of his more recognizable tracks, but above all it's really just a brilliant great record. From there, you might like Hunky Dory (for "Changes" and "Life on Mars") and then Aladdin Sane which has some incredible piano work from Mike Garson.

After his glam phase, it's really a Choose Your Own Adventure experience. His Berlin trilogy is not to be missed, but might be harder to get into at first. Eno really helped shape his sound though, so albums like Low and Heroes are superb but might sound completely different to you than his early glam work. Station to Station is a must hear, if only for the title track and the birth of his "thin white duke" persona. Let's Dance is arguably the best thing he did in the 80's, with "China Girl", the title track, and the universally awesome "Modern Love." From there, you might check out his romance with Motown and soul (Young Americans), or maybe his "industrial" side with Outside. The latter has him reuniting with both Eno and Garson and probably shouldn't be missed.

I am absolutely skipping albums and eras, but with a volume work and variety of styles as his this could become a serious OP really quickly. Hopefully others will contribute.

Avoid this at all costs.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

Honestly, I'd say you about nailed it. I'd second that his work with the Spiders is the point to start. With the exception of a few singles, his material before Hunky Dory (the two self-titled albums and The Man Who Sold The World) is definitely advanced work, showing a very embryonic, muddled sound at times. His transition from glam and into other areas (the Diamond Dogs-Young Americans-Station to Station sequence) is a bit difficult at times, but definitely worthy of attention as a unit. Additionally, the new listener is probably best served by avoiding the various live albums that have been released over the years. They range from mediocre to good, but pretty much never match any of his studio work.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Metal Loaf posted:

Can anybody recommend me any live albums from the 1970s? I have a good few of the obvious culprits (Live At Leeds, Double Live Gonzo!, Frampton Comes Alive!, Live Killers, Made In Japan, You Get What You Play For, Captured and so on) but I'm interested in more obscure examples.
UFO - Strangers in the Night

ExplodingChef
May 25, 2005

Deathscorts are the true American heroes.

hatelull posted:



The albums after Disintegration are extremely hit or miss, with Wish containing both a ridiculously popular single and at the same time one of the most nauseating songs ever recorded. Everything from that album on, is very much a pick and choose affair.

Out of curiosity, what's your pick for the nauseating song? If it isn't "Wendy Time" or "Doing the Unstuck" we may have to have a fight. I'm very fond of that album, except for those two songs that I find incredibly jarring.

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

"Friday I'm in Love" causes me physical pain.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Not so much a "where do I start?", but instead a "where do I go from here?"

I love the albums: More Adventurous by Rilo Kiley, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots by The Flaming Lips, and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco. But, contrary to how I normally react when I find an album I like, those are the only things by those artists that I own. It's weird, I've had all three of those albums since they were brand new, but it's like I subconsciously think that I'll only find disappointment if I dig deeper into their discographies.

So, if I like those albums what others by those artists might I also like?


e: To add a bit more detail and comment about The Cure. I don't like "She Don't Use Jelly" from the Flaming Lips, and I do have one song by Billy Bragg and Wilco that I absolutely adore.

hatelull posted:

"Friday I'm in Love" causes me physical pain.
It's really terrible. I love The Cure up to and including Disintegration, but I haven't liked a single thing since then.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

For The Flaming Lips, for someone who's worried about their more extreme moments and is quite pleased with Yoshimi, the absolute number one record to get right loving now is The Soft Bulletin. It is fantastic.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

Similar question to a kitten, but for Nick Cave. I have Tender Prey which I love and he's coming to a festival I'll be at soon so I want to listen to more of his songs. Which are the best albums to pick and which ones are most often played live by him?

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


It probably won't get much live play because there are so many guest vocalists, but Murder Ballads is an incredible album.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

Davincie posted:

Similar question to a kitten, but for Nick Cave. I have Tender Prey which I love and he's coming to a festival I'll be at soon so I want to listen to more of his songs. Which are the best albums to pick and which ones are most often played live by him?

Allen Wren posted:

Nick Cave has a few reasonable entry points, since his career has been incredibly long and often wildly-varying. Starting with '& The Bad Seeds' material is generally your best bet, but excursions into his work with The Birthday Party and Grinderman are rewarding as well.

As far as his work with the Seeds goes, most people will point at the group's early work as the best starting point, and as deliriously unhinged and delightfully sadistic those records are, I don't personally consider them the best way to be introduced to the group---quite the opposite. The first time I listened to the Your Funeral...My Trial LP, I was quite honestly just not into it. My comments at the time were something along the lines of "Yes, Nick, I get it, heroin is a hell of a drug."

To compromise, I would suggest 1988's Tender Prey LP as the best balance between the relentless sonic fury and the tighter songwriting Cave would perfect as the years went on. It's also got on it "The Mercy Seat," which was the band's signature tune, at least until the nineties meant that every movie soundtrack in existence would have "Red Right Hand" on it. Once you're through that, if the more sonically violent tracks tickle your fancy, stuff like "City of Refuge" and "Sugar Sugar Sugar", then definitely consider the louder records, earlier stuff like From Her To Eternity, but also later material, like Let Love In and Murder Ballads. If you're more in tune with the more sedate material ("Watching Alice," "New Morning", etc.), then you'll probably want to move to records like The Good Son or The Boatman's Call.

There's basically no record that's all one particular sound, though, so there's always going to be some light in the darkness, some dark in the light. Boatman's Call comes closest, but even that, in the midst of Cave's reconciliation with the concepts of god and love, still has its moments of bleak despair.

Basically, as I call it, these are the must-hear records, but there's worthy material on every record they've done:

1984 - From Her To Eternity (Turn it up loud---loud, desperate and violent)
1988 - Tender Prey
1990 - The Good Son (Cave gets off the horse and falls in love---beautiful desolation)
1994 - Let Love In (Amps are turned back up, the arrangements get overblown and the lyrics get nasty...)
1996 - Murder Ballads (...but not as nasty as this. Almost entirely pure excess, Nick decides to write about murder and doesn't stop until something like 70 fictional murders are committed)
1997 - The Boatman's Call (A total 180 from the last two LPs, a quiet, subtle look at matters romantic and spiritual)
2003 - Nocturama (skippable except for the ridiculously awesome 15-minute closer, "Babe, I'm On Fire")
2004 - Abbatoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus (The first disc is loud, the second is quiet---ignoring the two clankers that end the first disc and open the second, this might be the best thing the group's cut, though it sadly lacks that wacky German genius, Blixa Bargeld)

edit - gently caress, sorry, I rambled.

The only thing to add is that Henry's Dream, from 1992-3 or thereabouts, loving rules.

If you're looking for specific songs that are going to be big in his set, you'll probably also want to grab the new record he just put out this year, Push The Sky Away. The singles from that thus far have been "We No Who U R" and "Jubilee Street."

Ikari Worrier
Jul 23, 2004


Dinosaur Gum

a kitten posted:

Not so much a "where do I start?", but instead a "where do I go from here?"

I love the albums: More Adventurous by Rilo Kiley, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots by The Flaming Lips, and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco. But, contrary to how I normally react when I find an album I like, those are the only things by those artists that I own. It's weird, I've had all three of those albums since they were brand new, but it's like I subconsciously think that I'll only find disappointment if I dig deeper into their discographies.

For Wilco, I'd say probably the best place to go after Yankee Hotel Foxtrot would be the album immediately preceding it, Summerteeth. From there, the further back you go, the move overtly alt-country they start sounding (not a bad thing in my opinion). I will say that anything after A Ghost Is Born (or the eminently awesome live album Kicking Television) starts getting pretty goddamned boring, though, so be warned.

As for The Flaming Lips, they've had a few different eras with wildly varying sounds, but The Soft Bulletin is definitely the most logical choice for where to go next in their discography if you like Yoshimi that much. If you're interested in probing deeper from there, though, Transmissions from the Satellite Heart is probably the next step.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

Thanks for the excellent suggestions guys.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Thanks for the suggestions, just started listening to The Soft Bulletin and I like it right from the get-go. The fact that Wilco gets even more alt-country as you head back is good to hear too, and probably ensures that I will like it a lot.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Check out Uncle Tupelo, too. It's the band Jeff Tweedy and Jay Farrar were in before forming Wilco and Son Volt respectively. They were around from the late 80s to early 90s. They were one of the pioneers of alt-country.

Their first album, No Depression, is probably their most notable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKo_1rVClOk

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Check out Uncle Tupelo, too. It's the band Jeff Tweedy and Jay Farrar were in before forming Wilco and Son Volt respectively. They were around from the late 80s to early 90s. They were one of the pioneers of alt-country.

Well I'll be damned, I saw Uncle Tupelo in Bozeman, MT back around '92 or '93; never did pick up a CD though. I somehow had no idea (or completely forgot) there was a connection to Wilco, or Son Volt for that matter.

a kitten fucked around with this message at 23:42 on May 27, 2013

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN
Uh, yeah, Wilcochat is horribly incomplete without a recommendation of Loose Fur, the best goddamn thing Jeff Tweedy has ever been involved in.

Long, psych, Jim O'Rourke, druggy, wistful, etc etc. 1st album is much trippier than 2nd. Both are fantastic.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
This is broad and maybe fits better in the recommendations thread, but where do I start with electric blues? I like lots of bands/artists like the Black Keys, White Stripes, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Cream, Jimi Hendrix, etc. that are heavily influenced by and frequently cover the blues. But I don't have any actual blues musicians (unless you count SRV). What are some essential artists/albums that I should check out? I know the three Kings are all important. Don't care if it's classic or contemporary. The more soloing the better. Studio albums preferred over compilations or live recordings.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
If you like the Black Keys, look in to Junior Kimbrough. He had the biggest influence on early Black Keys guitar work.

I like God Knows I Tried.

Epi Lepi
Oct 29, 2009

You can hear the voice
Telling you to Love
It's the voice of MK Ultra
And you're doing what it wants

hatelull posted:

"Friday I'm in Love" causes me physical pain.

Friday I'm in Love >>>>>> anything on The Tops. :colbert:

a kitten posted:

I love the albums: More Adventurous by Rilo Kiley, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots by The Flaming Lips, and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot by Wilco. But, contrary to how I normally react when I find an album I like, those are the only things by those artists that I own. It's weird, I've had all three of those albums since they were brand new, but it's like I subconsciously think that I'll only find disappointment if I dig deeper into their discographies.



Rilo Kiley: They only have a couple of albums and the only one I can recommend with no reservations besides More Adventurous is Execution of All Things. Those two are the highlight of their career. I personally enjoy all of their albums but those two are my favorites. Jenny Lewis also has a sweet solo album called Acid Tongue and a project with her boyfriend called Jenny and Johnny that is really good as well.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Blast Fantasto posted:

If you like the Black Keys, look in to Junior Kimbrough. He had the biggest influence on early Black Keys guitar work.

I like God Knows I Tried.
I do enjoy the Chulahoma EP and all of his albums appear to be highly rated. Added to my list.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
John Mayall- Blues Breakers with Eric Clapton - just a great English electric blues record.

Howlin' Wolf - The London Howlin' Wolf Sessions- features an all star cast of English bluemen playing the some of the great blues standards with Howlin' Wolf.

Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYpwQsHb2_o

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Henchman of Santa posted:

This is broad and maybe fits better in the recommendations thread, but where do I start with electric blues? I like lots of bands/artists like the Black Keys, White Stripes, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Cream, Jimi Hendrix, etc. that are heavily influenced by and frequently cover the blues. But I don't have any actual blues musicians (unless you count SRV). What are some essential artists/albums that I should check out? I know the three Kings are all important. Don't care if it's classic or contemporary. The more soloing the better. Studio albums preferred over compilations or live recordings.

Joe Bonamassa is one of the pre-eminent contemporary blues guitarists. While I'd recomend checking out his Live At the Royal Albert Hall album, which pulls together pretty much everything he'd done in the preceding decade (and also featured Eric Clapton and Paul Jones guesting on guitar and harp respectively), as far as studio albums go, you might want to try the one that immediately preceded it, The Ballad Of John Henry.

You might also like Fleetwood Mac (the self-titled album from 1968 featuring Peter Green on lead vocals and guitar) and Still Got the Blues by Gary Moore.

Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 17:26 on May 28, 2013

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Thanks. I love Moore's work in Thin Lizzy and I've heard good things about Joe Bonamassa.

Also I forgot to mention Rory Gallagher in my original post in case anyone was going to recommend him.

SpiritualDeath
Jul 2, 2009

shaping your brain like pottery

Henchman of Santa posted:

This is broad and maybe fits better in the recommendations thread, but where do I start with electric blues? I like lots of bands/artists like the Black Keys, White Stripes, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Cream, Jimi Hendrix, etc. that are heavily influenced by and frequently cover the blues. But I don't have any actual blues musicians (unless you count SRV). What are some essential artists/albums that I should check out? I know the three Kings are all important. Don't care if it's classic or contemporary. The more soloing the better. Studio albums preferred over compilations or live recordings.
Definitely get any Hound Dog Taylor, John Lee Hooker, and Buddy Guy you can find (though stay away from his newer releases except for Sweet Tea). I'd also suggest Fenton Robinson's Somebody Loan Me a Dime, though that's more a personal recommendation.

SpiritualDeath fucked around with this message at 17:23 on May 28, 2013

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
That should be more than enough to get started. Thanks everybody.

Syndic
Jul 5, 2012

Davincie posted:

Similar question to a kitten, but for Nick Cave. I have Tender Prey which I love and he's coming to a festival I'll be at soon so I want to listen to more of his songs. Which are the best albums to pick and which ones are most often played live by him?

Allen's rundown is pretty spot on, but if you're looking for a single starting point, I don't think you can beat Live Seeds. It does wot it says on the tin: it's an edited live album from the tours the Bad Seeds did following the release of Henry's Dream. It's my single favourite Cave artifact and my go-to listen.

I couldn't find any of the songs on youtube, so I've linked spotify (in the offchance you have it): http://open.spotify.com/track/2YMK0ZTDVwQdf1PvGuUrGz

As you'll hear, the versions of the songs here are as well recorded as pretty much any of their studio albums but a WHOLE lot more potent, particularly compared their early '90s stuff. It was apparently motivated by the band's dissatisfaction with how tame Henry's Dream ended up sounding. You've got stonking versions of some of their finest songs played by the best version of the band's line-up (Cave/Bargeld/Harvey/Wydler/Savage/Casey).

In terms of studio LPs, I think Let Love In is their best effort. To me, it's their most diverse AND consistently strong record with some fantastic performances and arrangement.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

Live Seeds is also fantastic, yes.

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doug fuckey
Jun 7, 2007

hella greenbacks
Hilariously enough, Live Seeds doesn't sound nearly as good as Henry's Dream (the best Seeds album overall, I think)

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