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regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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Found it, finally! And looking at my description, it was just awful :)

Anyway, it's Chopin - Waltz no. 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1MwTMgZ694

Thanks for the help all!

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Slimchandi
May 13, 2005
That finger on your temple is the barrel of my raygun

Mahler posted:

Good post, dude! Tons of interesting music I've never heard in there.

Lately I've been into Rautavaara's symphonies. He mixes old fashion lyricism, dense textures and dissonances to usually beautiful effect.

Here's the first movement from his 7th symphony "Angel of Light"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIqi8V04bI8

I'm not really well versed in his music, but I have a disc with Piano Concerto III and Autumn Gardens which are both great listens. Cantus Arcticus as well, for something a little different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auW10aD0kYo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTR4OghdybA

facepalmolive
Jan 29, 2009
e: nm didn't see the last page

firebad57
Dec 29, 2008
Oh my god this thread exists. I'm not sure why I never thought of looking for it before, but as a professional classical musician (who plays exclusively newly composed music), I 'm loving THRILLED to have found this thread. AND the first thing I found people discussing was GODDAMNED ALVIN LUCIER WHO WAS MY PROFESSOR IN COLLEGE. Alvin is the best, and I'm super happy to see people enjoying his music.

Anyway, I don't want to immediately pimp my own music-making (though I will, if asked), but here are some of my friends playing music by Samuel Carl Adams. I'll give you guys 3 guesses as to who he's related to. He's writing some music for my group at the moment, so I am loving psyched.


Tension Study #1 by Samuel Carl Adams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05LHqqWOljY
Tension Study # 2 by Samuel Carl Adams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYT8nUTLtN8

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005

firebad57 posted:

Oh my god this thread exists. I'm not sure why I never thought of looking for it before, but as a professional classical musician (who plays exclusively newly composed music), I 'm loving THRILLED to have found this thread. AND the first thing I found people discussing was GODDAMNED ALVIN LUCIER WHO WAS MY PROFESSOR IN COLLEGE. Alvin is the best, and I'm super happy to see people enjoying his music.

I've been reading his recent book collecting his lecture notes, Music 109 and listening along to the pieces he talks about in it. Pretty sweet and a great way to learn more about what specific pieces that might be kinda hard to get into are doing.

Kytrarewn
Jul 15, 2011

Solving mysteries in
Bb, F and D.
I'm not sure how I feel about this myself, but do you guys tend to prefer "Beethoven's" tempos for Symphony 5 mvt.1 (much faster than most conductors play it, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gXdWELSgEQ) or the traditional interpretation (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM3y09RjKLs)?

I find myself inclined towards something more in the middle (a la Kleiber's interpretation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqsT00B0ttI), but I tend to lean toward the slower and more weighty interpretation rather than the faster, lighter one.

firebad57
Dec 29, 2008

Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:

I've been reading his recent book collecting his lecture notes, Music 109 and listening along to the pieces he talks about in it. Pretty sweet and a great way to learn more about what specific pieces that might be kinda hard to get into are doing.

Whoa, that's awesome. That's the course I took Freshman year :eng101:. That course was a huge influence on everybody I know who took it, especially me. It's really wonderful that he's making it available to everyone! I might have to get my hands on a copy...

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005
What do you guys like for contemporary classical music? I love the chunky gritty tendencies in 20th century classical but I'm pretty ignorant about anything that's actually happening today. What do ya all like? Especially, do ya got any recordings you think are particularly awesome?

James The 1st
Feb 23, 2013
Andreas Waldetoft who composes for Paradox games has some pretty nice stuff.

Von Sloneker
Jul 6, 2009

as if all this was something more
than another footnote on a postcard from nowhere,
another chapter in the handbook for exercises in futility
Out of left field but I've stumbled across a TV station that should appeal to posters in this thread. It's called Classic Arts Showcase and is sort of like an MTV for the Classically-minded. No commercials, just lots of video clips of symphony concert performances, operas, actual music videos for Classical, etc, and bits of classic movies as well (for some reason). I watch it on DISH but it's listed on their site as appearing on two other providers I've not heard of, METV and Total Life Comm Ed FND. :confused:

http://www.classicartsshowcase.org/

A lot of it is of exactly the sort of public access quality that you'd expect. Still it's pretty cool to see a Maria Callas performance on TV in the middle of the night. As I type right now, there's a BBC clip of a Grieg song, "The Swan," being sung by Nicolai Gedda.

MOAR
Mar 6, 2012

Death! Put your jacket on or you'll get frostbite!

Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:

What do you guys like for contemporary classical music?

I really like the film composer Hans Zimmer, some amazing stuff.

firebad57
Dec 29, 2008

Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:

What do you guys like for contemporary classical music? I love the chunky gritty tendencies in 20th century classical but I'm pretty ignorant about anything that's actually happening today. What do ya all like? Especially, do ya got any recordings you think are particularly awesome?

Way too many to list. I'm a professional contemporary classical musician, so you just asked about my whole life! There are so many styles and movements that happened in the 20th century, it's pretty much best to just go by those styles.

Judging by your statement about liking the "chunky, gritty tendencies" (I love that description, btw), it sounds like you might like a lot of the less tonal bits - of which there were very many.

Since everybody in this thread is recommending film scores and composers (a great place to explore this stuff, since film is really the only mainstream medium in which avant garde music made any impact), I will recommend checking out the Shutter Island OST. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1130884/soundtrack

It's not a film score, but basically a hit parade of 20th century avant garde music. Cage, Feldman, Pender-dogg, Scelsi - whole weirdo crews from both sides of the Atlantic (and Nam Jun Paik!).

So that's the late 20th century - as for what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING TODAY. Well, today is actually the Bang On a Can Marathon in New York, and Bang is a pretty good image of American contemporary music. Their albums are a good place to start for what's happening in America today (up on Spotify, etc.).

And, since I do this for a living, I must plug my friends - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liUBVrq3plA . And myself - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM0qKkt052I . This is what is happening with weird young people on the West Coast making contemporary classical music.

I'm extremely happy to recommend other poo poo. I've spent most of my life studying contemporary music, so this is all the tip of the iceberg, and I am happy to send along a ton of various and sundry strange musics.

Criminal Minded
Jan 4, 2005

Spring break forever
I know this is baroque not classical, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qADdW7uHz2I

Does anybody know what the chaconne in the background of this video is?

trans fat
Jul 29, 2007

TheWelleszTheatre is a YouTube channel that posts mostly complete works from mostly modern and more obscure composers with a cool piece of art as the video. I would recommend anyone reading this thread to subscribe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xOMDIOyfNo

This gets really great in the second movement.

CowOnCrack
Sep 26, 2004

by R. Guyovich
One of my favorite gems of music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IPyVMDgcjxw#t=28s

Prelude in B Minor, a transcription from the Clavier-Büchlein by Alexander Siloti.

Kytrarewn
Jul 15, 2011

Solving mysteries in
Bb, F and D.
My brother just shared this recording of Itzhak Perlman playing Khachaturian's Russian Concerto in D in his prime with me.

His staccato playing is patently amazing. Clear, defined, smooth and with a brilliant tone.

Must-listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZgpNXo4iuI

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!

Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:

What do you guys like for contemporary classical music? I love the chunky gritty tendencies in 20th century classical but I'm pretty ignorant about anything that's actually happening today. What do ya all like? Especially, do ya got any recordings you think are particularly awesome?
I love the soundtracks for superhero and adventure films (face it, outside of movies we get little orchestra exposure). John Williams and Hans Zimmer come to mind easily. You can't have a truly great superhero if he doesn't have a fitting theme tune.

I also like what the London Symphony Orchestra is trying these days: adapting rock and pop songs to orchestra. It's a mixed bag because vocals rarely translate well to instruments (too monotone). A case in point is this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vbpP9M0x24. The chorus is magnificent but the rest of the song sucks.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
Has anyone here been to the recent Einstein on the Beach tour? I'm thinking about buying nosebleed tickets to the LA performance (last North American stop, I think) since I missed the Berkeley performance last year. Is it worth it sitting so high up?

klockwerk
Jun 30, 2007

dsch
Has anyone come across any good podcasts of/about classical music? I was browsing the iTunes store earlier today with little success aside from what BBC Radio 3 has to offer (which is a fair amount, to be honest).

Just looking to fill up a road-trip playlist for a 30 hour drive this summer. I love a mix of talk and music, rather than just performances.

Incredulous Dylan
Oct 22, 2004

Fun Shoe
So glad you asked!

http://pipedreams.publicradio.org/about/

Even if you aren't a fan of pipe organ playing, the sheer variety and quality of each of these shows will convert you. You can stream or download any previous show back to 89'. Each show will have additional audio segments, occasional interviews with one of the performing artists and a full track listing. To start off with, here's a show from the 2012 BBC Proms with fantastic interpretations of Bach by Cameron Carpenter.

http://pipedreams.publicradio.org/listings/2012/1238/

The opening Toccata & Fugue (BWV 540) is such a great example of what the pipe organ has to offer. The immense dynamic range allows for a performance that is at first ethereal and then electrifying. I wouldn't be hearing any of it without great classical shows like these!

Incredulous Dylan fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jul 29, 2013

DaWolfey
Oct 25, 2003

College Slice
Tonight on BBC Radio 3 is a performance of Frank Zappas The Adventures of Greggery Peccary and G-Spot Tornado for the BBC Proms.

The Proms, for those who don't know, are a season of classical music performances, and this is the first time Zappa has been performed during it.

It starts at 22:15 BST (local UK time)

(There is also some Nancarrow and Philip Glass being performed too!)

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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DaWolfey posted:

Tonight on BBC Radio 3 is a performance of Frank Zappas The Adventures of Greggery Peccary and G-Spot Tornado for the BBC Proms.

The Proms, for those who don't know, are a season of classical music performances, and this is the first time Zappa has been performed during it.

It starts at 22:15 BST (local UK time)

(There is also some Nancarrow and Philip Glass being performed too!)

Prob my favorite Proms performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_kaOYC_Fww

Fie on those who think opera can't be fun

firebad57
Dec 29, 2008

DaWolfey posted:

Tonight on BBC Radio 3 is a performance of Frank Zappas The Adventures of Greggery Peccary and G-Spot Tornado for the BBC Proms.

The Proms, for those who don't know, are a season of classical music performances, and this is the first time Zappa has been performed during it.

It starts at 22:15 BST (local UK time)

(There is also some Nancarrow and Philip Glass being performed too!)

Whoa! Incredible. Nancarrow and Zappa at the Proms. This is awesome. I hope it's well-received.

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010
Can anyone recognise what peice of music is being drowned in reverb and crackle in this Caretaker track? I'd love to know what it was, although I suspect I won't like the untreated version as much...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdu--HmVoQs

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

firebad57 posted:

I will recommend checking out the Shutter Island OST. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1130884/soundtrack

It's not a film score, but basically a hit parade of 20th century avant garde music. Cage, Feldman, Pender-dogg, Scelsi - whole weirdo crews from both sides of the Atlantic (and Nam Jun Paik!).

Also the Ingram Marshall joint, all his stuff is great

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

toiletbrush posted:

Can anyone recognise what peice of music is being drowned in reverb and crackle in this Caretaker track? I'd love to know what it was, although I suspect I won't like the untreated version as much...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdu--HmVoQs

Is there reason to think it's not their music? Otherwise, I'm not sure what they did to put their name on it.
e: OK, read the video description. I'm dumb.

In any event, if you like that sound you'll like William Basinski's Disintegration Loops (kind of a cool story -- music he had written and had recorded on old acetate tapes and forgotten about for decades, then rediscovered while it was in the process of literally falling apart. Transferred to digital while in a bad state of decay and the result is pretty interesting)

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Aug 15, 2013

david crosby
Mar 2, 2007

Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:

What do you guys like for contemporary classical music? I love the chunky gritty tendencies in 20th century classical but I'm pretty ignorant about anything that's actually happening today. What do ya all like? Especially, do ya got any recordings you think are particularly awesome?

A recent piece that I really like is Salonen's Violin Concerto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbBw03Q_3zw
It was written in 2009 and won the Grawemeyer last year. I don't really know how people feel about Salonen, I def get the impression that he's not looked on too fondly as a conductor, but I think some of his more prominent recent orchestral pieces are pretty good. I'm also not sure how representative this is of contemporary classical! It's mostly straightforward harmonically, and there's some almost pop-rock parts, which seems like uhh a contemporary thing to do?

Does anyone know of any prominent string quartets written in the last like 15 years? It's my favorite genre and I wondered if anything new was worthwhile.

firebad57
Dec 29, 2008
More like last 30, but Kevin Volans' White Man Sleeps is great, and his other stuff for sq is okay too. Peteris Vasks has also written some really cool stuff for Quartet. A really great way to check out contemporary rep for string quartets is to check out albums by Kronos Quartet, Jack Quartet, Ethel, Brooklyn Rider, Arditti Quarter, and other groups that focus on contemporary music.

I have a kajillion other ideas, so I'll write them when I get home.

david crosby
Mar 2, 2007

firebad57 posted:

More like last 30, but Kevin Volans' White Man Sleeps is great, and his other stuff for sq is okay too. Peteris Vasks has also written some really cool stuff for Quartet. A really great way to check out contemporary rep for string quartets is to check out albums by Kronos Quartet, Jack Quartet, Ethel, Brooklyn Rider, Arditti Quarter, and other groups that focus on contemporary music.

I have a kajillion other ideas, so I'll write them when I get home.

White Man Sleeps is really good.

Besides Kronos and Arditti, I haven't heard of any of those quartets. Thanks for the rec, I'll check em out.

Since we're talking quartets, does anyone have an opinion on who does the best Shostakovich cycle? I've heard the Emerson, (some of) the Borodin, and the cycle the Pacifica is in the middle of, and I prefer the Emerson. I know the Beethoven Quartet premiered almost all of his quartets, anyone know if their readings are good or what?

80k
Jul 3, 2004

careful!

david crosby posted:

Since we're talking quartets, does anyone have an opinion on who does the best Shostakovich cycle? I've heard the Emerson, (some of) the Borodin, and the cycle the Pacifica is in the middle of, and I prefer the Emerson. I know the Beethoven Quartet premiered almost all of his quartets, anyone know if their readings are good or what?

The Borodin quartet have recorded them (with varying completeness) several times. This complete set is truly fantastic. But the world of Shostakovich complete sets is an embarrassment of riches and everyone has their favorite. Check out Mandelring and Danel for great performances with great sound. The connoisseurs seem to go back to Borodin, Beethoven (great but bad sound quality), or Taneyev (amazing but expensive and I have only had a chance to hear some of them). A review of the Taneyev: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classRev/2005/June05/Shostakovich_Quartets_AMC20551.htm

david crosby
Mar 2, 2007

80k posted:

The Borodin quartet have recorded them (with varying completeness) several times. This complete set is truly fantastic. But the world of Shostakovich complete sets is an embarrassment of riches and everyone has their favorite. Check out Mandelring and Danel for great performances with great sound. The connoisseurs seem to go back to Borodin, Beethoven (great but bad sound quality), or Taneyev (amazing but expensive and I have only had a chance to hear some of them). A review of the Taneyev: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classRev/2005/June05/Shostakovich_Quartets_AMC20551.htm

I've listened to the Taneyev's full recording of the Myaskovsky cycle, and I thought they were pretty good, but the engineering was real bad. Some reviewer on Amazon said it sounded like they were recorded in a barn.

Speaking of the Taneyev Quartet, have you had an opportunity to hear the composer Taneyev's quartets? I've been trying to hunt down an affordable copy in my Quest To Hear All The String Quartets, but I ain't had no luck. I'm in the same boat with the Krenek and Honegger quartets, they're tough to find.

All I wanna do is talk about sting quartets!
Who are your favorite composers? Here's an exciting movement from my fave quartet composer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZw-0zArfX4

what about lesser known pieces? I'd like to hear about some that I may have missed. Here's a good one that's not too well known: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y10ZIF8jV4U

80k
Jul 3, 2004

careful!

david crosby posted:

I've listened to the Taneyev's full recording of the Myaskovsky cycle, and I thought they were pretty good, but the engineering was real bad. Some reviewer on Amazon said it sounded like they were recorded in a barn.

Speaking of the Taneyev Quartet, have you had an opportunity to hear the composer Taneyev's quartets? I've been trying to hunt down an affordable copy in my Quest To Hear All The String Quartets, but I ain't had no luck. I'm in the same boat with the Krenek and Honegger quartets, they're tough to find.

All I wanna do is talk about sting quartets!
Who are your favorite composers? Here's an exciting movement from my fave quartet composer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZw-0zArfX4

what about lesser known pieces? I'd like to hear about some that I may have missed. Here's a good one that's not too well known: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y10ZIF8jV4U

Never heard Taneyev's quartets myself. Have you heard Heitor Villa Lobos'? He wrote quite a few and many are fantastic. I am also quite into Karl Amadeus Hartmann and he wrote a couple of excellent quartets: http://youtu.be/xu9k3SSTf9U

How about Berg's Lyric Suite or Webern's Op 28?

Beethoven is probably my favorite quartet composer as well.

Edit: that Ginastera quartet movement was great! Gonna have to check out some more.

80k fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Aug 16, 2013

david crosby
Mar 2, 2007

80k posted:

Never heard Taneyev's quartets myself. Have you heard Heitor Villa Lobos'? He wrote quite a few and many are fantastic. I am also quite into Karl Amadeus Hartmann and he wrote a couple of excellent quartets: http://youtu.be/xu9k3SSTf9U

How about Berg's Lyric Suite or Webern's Op 28?

Beethoven is probably my favorite quartet composer as well.

Edit: that Ginastera quartet movement was great! Gonna have to check out some more.

I have heard the Villa Lobos quartets. I thought they were pretty disappointing, tbqh. As a guitarist I'm really familiar with Villa Lobos' guitar music, both because its really important and also super good. I guess I brought to his quartets some unfair expectations. I do really like a few of them tho, numbers 1, 5, and 7 especially.

Love that Hartmann quartet! That's exactly what I'm looking for. Lots of drama, interesting rhythms, lyricism, good understanding of the string quartet idiom, etc. His life story is pretty interesting, too. I'm really surprised his music isn't championed more. If his symphonies get as good as that quartet they should be performed often just on the quality of the music itself, but since he was such a strong anti-fascist German actually living in Germany during the war, his music could obviously have lots of appeal for extra-musical reasons.

80k
Jul 3, 2004

careful!

david crosby posted:

Love that Hartmann quartet! That's exactly what I'm looking for. Lots of drama, interesting rhythms, lyricism, good understanding of the string quartet idiom, etc. His life story is pretty interesting, too. I'm really surprised his music isn't championed more. If his symphonies get as good as that quartet they should be performed often just on the quality of the music itself, but since he was such a strong anti-fascist German actually living in Germany during the war, his music could obviously have lots of appeal for extra-musical reasons.

Yea, I am really amazed he is not recognized more. I could not tell from your post whether you haven't heard his symphonies or you have but thought his quartets were better? In any case, I think he is one of the greatest symphonists. I actually discovered his 6th as a coupling on a Bruckner CD and quickly became a huge fan of his work and his story.
http://youtu.be/rUJAp9sNooE
http://youtu.be/pWm7GHRvKdo
http://youtu.be/N5AmqY5OSX8

Edit:also have you heard Willem Pijper's quartets? http://youtu.be/aZ4NphUlPHU

80k fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Aug 16, 2013

An Enormous Boner
Jul 12, 2009

Giant Schubert collection on Amazon for $1.

There's some cool stuff in there. I can't comment on the quality of the recordings yet, but there are some well-known performers and groups in the list.

Shif
Aug 12, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvYWJ4GAsjQ

There's just something about Elsa's Procession to the Cathedral that always gets me. Being a trumpet player by trade I've had the unique opportunity to have played this live before an audience. What an experience, actually bringing the music to life. This will always go down as one of my favorites.

CowOnCrack
Sep 26, 2004

by R. Guyovich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWniulQKw68

I love this piano concerto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGfoyEXZV3A

Which one's better? Imo, the first one (as much as I love Hamelin).

david crosby
Mar 2, 2007

80k posted:

Yea, I am really amazed he is not recognized more. I could not tell from your post whether you haven't heard his symphonies or you have but thought his quartets were better? In any case, I think he is one of the greatest symphonists. I actually discovered his 6th as a coupling on a Bruckner CD and quickly became a huge fan of his work and his story.
http://youtu.be/rUJAp9sNooE
http://youtu.be/pWm7GHRvKdo
http://youtu.be/N5AmqY5OSX8

Edit:also have you heard Willem Pijper's quartets? http://youtu.be/aZ4NphUlPHU

I hadn't heard his symphonies, but I really liked what you've posted. The Sixth is very nice, I thought the ending was one of the most exciting I've heard in a long time. Some of his writing and textures sounds very contemporary. There were passages in the symphonia that sounded like something Kaija Saariaho would write.

Do you have a preferred conductor for the Hartmann symphonies? His wikipedia page mentioned Mariss Jansons has conducted a few, but I thought his Shostakovich kinda uneven.

Thanks for posting that Pijper quartet. Its an excellent piece, his use of little motives throughout the movements is a neat lil trick. I especially liked the scherzo, it has a mysterious mood that I'm not sure I've heard anywhere else before.

Here's another quartet:
Benjamin Britten's quartet no. 2 (the music starts about 24:20) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryxX6TNTJek

Britten wrote three quartets that are seldom played, with the second prolly being the most popular. I guess it's the best, but they're all really good! They're good! The slow movement of the third quartet is among the saddest music I know. It was the last large scale piece of music he wrote, IIRC. The Belcea Quartet has done a really good recording of the three quartets on EMI if y'all dig this.

Edit: oh poo poo all three quartets are up on youtube with a lecture beforehand! just search 'Benjamin Britten String Quartet" and they should be among the top results

david crosby fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Aug 22, 2013

80k
Jul 3, 2004

careful!

david crosby posted:

I hadn't heard his symphonies, but I really liked what you've posted. The Sixth is very nice, I thought the ending was one of the most exciting I've heard in a long time. Some of his writing and textures sounds very contemporary. There were passages in the symphonia that sounded like something Kaija Saariaho would write.

Do you have a preferred conductor for the Hartmann symphonies? His wikipedia page mentioned Mariss Jansons has conducted a few, but I thought his Shostakovich kinda uneven.

Thanks for posting that Pijper quartet. Its an excellent piece, his use of little motives throughout the movements is a neat lil trick. I especially liked the scherzo, it has a mysterious mood that I'm not sure I've heard anywhere else before.

Here's another quartet:
Benjamin Britten's quartet no. 2 (the music starts about 24:20) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryxX6TNTJek

Britten wrote three quartets that are seldom played, with the second prolly being the most popular. I guess it's the best, but they're all really good! They're good! The slow movement of the third quartet is among the saddest music I know. It was the last large scale piece of music he wrote, IIRC. The Belcea Quartet has done a really good recording of the three quartets on EMI if y'all dig this.

Edit: oh poo poo all three quartets are up on youtube with a lecture beforehand! just search 'Benjamin Britten String Quartet" and they should be among the top results

Just listened to the Britten quartet you linked to. Pretty good! I will need to listen to the others.

If you like the Pijper, check out the rest. All his quartets only add up to about a disk worth of music... I have the Schoenberg Quartet performing the entire series and they are wonderful performances. His darker and more sinister style really comes out in his next few quartets.

As for Hartmann, Ferdinand Leitner has conducted a couple fantastic performances. The German label Wergo released a box set that is worth hunting down that has Kubelik and a few other conductors doing the entire cycle and they are all very good. Yea, his music is really exciting. He has an amazing ability to continuously build tension.

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Kytrarewn
Jul 15, 2011

Solving mysteries in
Bb, F and D.
I saw the Boston Symphony perform Brahms 4 up at Tanglewood a week and a half ago.

What an amazing piece to hear live by one of the country's best orchestras, especially with probably the best trombone section in the country right now.

Horn section was also phenomenal, most unified sounding horn section I've ever heard. Even that slight bit of "rasp" in the stereotypical horn sound seemed to be calibrated among the horn players, in the manner of violinists matching vibrato/bowing for sustained notes. I don't think a recording could ever do that performance justice.

That being said, the Beethoven 3rd piano concerto that Yefin Bronfman played was extremely underwhelming to me. It was very reserved and unemotional, and while Bronfman managed to hit all the notes, it was missing much of its je-ne-sais-quoi. At no point did Bronfman feel like a soloist, so much as a section piano player with a slightly more important part than usual in the symphonic repertoire.

Does anyone have any suggested recordings of the Beethoven? I truly loved Richard Goode's performances of the Beethoven Sonatas, if that gives any of you a hint as to my tastes in piano interpretations.

Kytrarewn fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Aug 22, 2013

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