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Pobama posted:I for one do. The cut-scenes from the Shadows of the Empire game for the N64 have a more coherent plot and better characters then the new trilogy. Clone Wars cartoon was EU, and that kid's show was much better than any of the lovely book or game plots (well, KOTOR 1 was "ok" plotwise, at least).
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There's absolutely no chance the new Star Wars will be an adaptation of any pre-existing Star Wars media.
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Darko posted:Clone Wars cartoon was EU, and that kid's show was much better than any of the lovely book or game plots (well, KOTOR 1 was "ok" plotwise, at least). People also died left and right. Hell, in one episode, a Jedi Master goes dark side and tricks his clones into killing each other. Because he really, really hates clones. They execute him for it. On screen, as I recall.
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Jun 16, 2013 17:38
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Pobama posted:I for one do. The cut-scenes from the Shadows of the Empire game for the N64 have a more coherent plot and better characters then the new trilogy. You may want to check them again when it isn't 1996. Shadows of the Empire was as awful and toxic as anything from the EU. Dash Rendar was a remarkably stupid character who only existed because they couldn't use Han Solo. Xixor (or whatever his name was) was the worst kind of stupid supervillain and there is not a single chance that Disney is going to film a scene where Princess Leia is almost raped for a kid's film. It was an awful thing that inexplicably got a merchandising push.
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scary ghost dog posted:There's absolutely no chance the new Star Wars will be an adaptation of any pre-existing Star Wars media. I wouldn't be surprised if they really did lift a couple concepts from the EU, possibly the names of the Solo children or a mention/cameo of an art-loving, blue-skinned Grand Admiral.
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Pobama posted:I for one do. The cut-scenes from the Shadows of the Empire game for the N64 have a more coherent plot and better characters then the new trilogy. Shadows of the Empire is part of the EU. And is, in fact, one of the more toxic examples of the EU from it's earlier life. (Some recent stuff is worse, no doubt, but the actual story of Shadows is bad. Real bad.)
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jivjov posted:I wouldn't be surprised if they really did lift a couple concepts from the EU, possibly the names of the Solo children or a mention/cameo of an art-loving, blue-skinned Grand Admiral. Coruscant and its description as a city-planet were from EU before the movies. So was one of the Jedi backgrounders, Aayla Secura. Also, Dash Rendar's ship made a cameo appearance on Tatooine in the Special Edition. Oh, apparently this is a new casting call in London: quote:Late-teen female, independent, good sense of humour, fit.
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Jun 19, 2013 19:43
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They've got to balance out all that fit by having a character that's 400 pounds.
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Corek posted:Coruscant and its description as a city-planet were from EU before the movies. So was one of the Jedi backgrounders, Aayla Secura. "Fit" is basically casting-ese for "attractive", yeah?
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Jun 19, 2013 20:13
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Mr. Unlucky posted:They've got to balance out all that fit by having a character that's 400 pounds. Of course, we need someone to play a Hutt.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:"Fit" is basically casting-ese for "attractive", yeah? Sounds like it- quote:fit but not traditionally good looking
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Mechafunkzilla posted:"Fit" is basically casting-ese for "attractive", yeah? I thought fit was common British vernacular for attractive.
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Jun 19, 2013 21:03
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Xizor was such a goddamn loser with his whole obsession with being better than Darth Vader for Reasons. I remember he had like super intense sparring sessions with robots that were made to look like Darth Vader and he'd totally kick their rear end and be like "Heh I'm so awesome, take that Darth Vader". I just imagine his staff/robot cleaning crew rolling their eyes and making jerkoff motions whenever he walked past.
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Breakfast All Day posted:I thought fit was common British vernacular for attractive. Yeah, but they wouldn't use it like that in a casting call unless they have the world's most cockney casting director.
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Jun 20, 2013 13:41
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Casting by Ali G
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Mechafunkzilla posted:"Fit" is basically casting-ese for "attractive", yeah? I took it as meaning 'will be doing lots of fighting'. Though, yeah, cockney. (Streets video)
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Corek posted:Coruscant and its description as a city-planet were from EU before the movies. Not exactly. The name of the planet is credited to the EU, but the planet itself existed in early drafts of Return of the Jedi. Ralph McQuarrie even created some artwork of how it would look.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:"Fit" is basically casting-ese for "attractive", yeah? Fit = no fatties
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Shanty posted:Yeah, but they wouldn't use it like that in a casting call unless they have the world's most cockney casting director. As an aside, I'm doing a prop breakdown at the moment and the action direction is "XXXXX's horse stacks it, XXXXX flees on foot". I didn't realise Danny Dyer had started writing action notes.
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Murder McMurderson posted:Not exactly. The name of the planet is credited to the EU, but the planet itself existed in early drafts of Return of the Jedi. Ralph McQuarrie even created some artwork of how it would look. Yeah, in the first draft of the Return of the Jedi script, there was the city-planet capital, but it was named Had Abbadon. Zahn gave it the name Coruscant, which somehow stuck.
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Was Boba Fett EU first? Since he appeared in the Christmas Special before Empire?
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Darko posted:Was Boba Fett EU first? Since he appeared in the Christmas Special before Empire? Depends on what you consider EU. The Christmas Special was a sanctioned by Lucas, had the original stars, and aired as a TV movie. Is that EU? Or just another movie, that now barely even counts in the canon?
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thrawn527 posted:Depends on what you consider EU. The Christmas Special was a sanctioned by Lucas, had the original stars, and aired as a TV movie. Is that EU? Or just another movie, that now barely even counts in the canon? Lucas may not have directly produced, but he was definitely more involved than just signing off on it. This is my favorite anecdote about the Holiday Special: quote:“I said: ‘You’ve chosen to build a story around these characters who don’t speak. The only sound they make is like fat people having an orgasm,’” the 250-plus-pound Vilanch recalls. “In fact, I told Lucas he could just leave a tape recorder in my bedroom and I’d be happy to do all the looping and Foley work for him.”
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Legitimately cracking up over here, thanks for the article.
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scary ghost dog posted:There's absolutely no chance the new Star Wars will be an adaptation of any pre-existing Star Wars media. Makes sense when you consider how Abram's Star Trek doesn't retread any pre-existing Star Tre....
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thrawn527 posted:Shadows of the Empire is part of the EU. And is, in fact, one of the more toxic examples of the EU from it's earlier life. (Some recent stuff is worse, no doubt, but the actual story of Shadows is bad. Real bad.) Seriously, the amount of subtle rape references in that book really freaked me out when I first read it at 12 years of age.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:Makes sense when you consider how Abram's Star Trek doesn't retread any pre-existing Star Tre.... Everything Abrams retreads had already been featured in the movies. This is the equivalent to looking at some Voyager fanfiction and deciding to make a movie off of that.
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computer parts posted:Everything Abrams retreads had already been featured in the movies. This is the equivalent to looking at some Voyager fanfiction and deciding to make a movie off of that. They had trailers in theaters for the Shadows of the Empire game/book/comic/toys/trading cards/making-of book/RPG supplements/soundtrack (seriously it had a soundtrack that was basically a concept album on the story's themes). You couldn't actually get the whole story unless you had the game, book, and comic. They tried to repeat it ten years later with The Force Unleashed but even Wookieepedia admits "the project largely fell flat due to the many delays of the game". They also did two separate Clone Wars projects, one between episodes 2 and 3 (i loved the '02 game when I was a kid) and another one from 2008-2012.
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Dark Empire is the best EU. They should make that be the sequels, done with lots of CGI and in a very literal 'Sin City' style.
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Isn't that the one with David Bowie Palpatine?
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The Warszawa posted:Isn't that the one with David Bowie Palpatine? Yes it is, but I liked it too. 
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Miltank posted:Yes it is, but I liked it too. Look I think we can all acknowledge that if this movie doesn't have Lando introducing Luke to that strange and mysterious beverage called "hot chocolate," it's failed to draw from the best of the EU.
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I for one am interested in figuring out just what exactly happened to the GLOVE OF DARTH VADER
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Miltank posted:I for one am interested in figuring out just what exactly happened to the GLOVE OF DARTH VADER We should hold a Moffrence. Someone page Trioculus.
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I bid you all Dark Greetings.
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I wonder how much of the EU could have been saved if they'd just let Han and Leia become Nick and Nora Charles in space.
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Considering the general quality of the writers that get hired? They'd probably save it by finding different ways to make a mess of things.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:Seriously, the amount of subtle rape references in that book really freaked me out when I first read it at 12 years of age.
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Madurai posted:I wonder how much of the EU could have been saved if they'd just let Han and Leia become Nick and Nora Charles in space. I've run noir themed Star Wars RPGs, so I'd have to say it'd probably work amazingly well. I just with I'd seen any of the Thin Man movies beforehand.
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I say bring back the kid from the Ewok movies (Syndel?) but she's grown up* and teamed up with Wicket the Ewok but he's surly and middle aged (Warwick Davis reprising the role). *and played by a real actress and not one of the producer's children
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