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Email me the stems and let's do this.
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Jun 27, 2013 11:24
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If they wanted to do something like this they should have hired Tom Moulton to do a REAL disco 12" mix.
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Jun 27, 2013 14:56
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Sounds like the problems with the remix are entirely down to everything that was right about the album. You'd think having access to all the components of a track for once would give them more freedom to arrange into something new but surprise - it just comes out sounding like more of the same. Working from authentic 70's samples like they usually do gives them two things. One, its restrictive so you have to be clever about what you take and how you use it. Even in tracks where they lift larger sections of the source material, the tracks sound different because they take them to a different sonic place either by processing or rearranging or just decontextualising them from what they were. This remix was born in the same universe as Get Lucky but it also lives in it as well, right next door. Even the fake remixes that were done from the teasers sounded better than this, because they had the exact same problem Daft Punk usually do; a limit to what they can use. Two, authentic 70's/80's samples aren't pristine. The technology of the day they were recorded means they were never pristine from day 1, they carry some of the soul of the time with them, but also just the age of a recording subtly changes how it sounds, and often gives it a life and a magic that's totally missing here, because even with the care they took, RAM is recorded in the present day, and still sounds box fresh. They need to almost take a leaf out of Boards of Canada's book and try and inject a bit of a feeling of "this is a 30 year old sample that's been recorded, rerecorded, archived, forgotten and just now rediscovered". Cos the remix just sounds wierdly sterile and missing a spark in a way their earlier sample-based stuff just doesn't.
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Jun 28, 2013 00:01
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Taken to the extreme, it would have been interesting to see them remix with the only source material being the final vinyl pressing.
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Jun 28, 2013 00:31
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Let Chilly G make everything right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhdW5gVMQkY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Jun 28, 2013 01:32
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JetGrind posted:Just curious, have you heard Justice's 18 minute song, Planisphere? It definitely has that rising feeling you seem to be looking for. Holy poo poo. Awesome, thank you!
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Jun 28, 2013 02:00
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Let Chilly G make everything right He does. It's loving fact.
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Jun 28, 2013 03:22
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I just read the Pitchfork review of Nicolas Jaar's Daftside remix album and I can't believe they actually reviewed this and gave it a high score (by their standards). I'm listening to some of this album on SoundCloud and most of it is loving terrible. It sounds to me like this dude just pitch shifted certain elements, slowed others down and made some parts noisier than they already were. That's deserving of praise? It just sounds like some amateur used Audacity to do some "remixes" and then threw the final product up on YouTube. I'm a fan of noise music when it's done well, but this is garbage for the most part. And the moments when it does sound cool, that's not original. These are still just remixes. Who am I kidding, though. This is Pitchfork. They'll review any dogshit and give it a good score.
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Jun 28, 2013 19:41
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Gonna have to disagree with you there, bro. Nico's remix of the album has had about ten full playthroughs from me in the last few days. What Jaar does best is add a little bit of soul to the proceedings. I find a lot of his stuff hit and miss, but when he hits it always gets me in a big way. Beyond, Get Lucky, Fragments of Time, and Give Life Back to Music all blow me away.
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Jun 28, 2013 20:13
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I do like that Daftside remix of Get Lucky. Or maybe my standards were just set extremely low by Daft Punk's own remix. Not sure. It has probably already been posted but, just in case, the whole thing is on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/daftside-2 edit: also the Fragments of Time remix owns. thathonkey fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jun 28, 2013 |
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Jun 28, 2013 20:35
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thathonkey posted:I do like that Daftside remix of Get Lucky. Or maybe my standards were just set extremely low by Daft Punk's own remix. Not sure. Rageaholic Monkey posted:Who am I kidding, though. This is Pitchfork. They'll review any dogshit and give it a good score.
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Jun 28, 2013 21:30
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het posted:This sounds really dumb in the same thread where the Daft Punk album you love got an unusually high score from Pitchfork :P Heh, well more recently they've been giving albums I like better scores than they used to, it seems. But let's not forget that this is the site that gave De-Loused In The Comatorium a 4.9 out of 10. For years, I'd read their reviews daily and know them as the site that gave poo poo albums good reviews and vice versa.
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Jun 28, 2013 22:13
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I know this isnt the right thread but the biggest curveball from Pitchfork reviews in recent memory is the 9.5 they gave Yeezus. I thought they rated RAM a bit high too but overall I enjoy both of those albums. I used to read pitchfork reviews almost religiously back in ~2007-2011 but not so much these days. They have always gravitated towards certain genres and especially artists almost stochastically but they do seem to be getting less consistent in their tastes and the scores are kinda all over the place 
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Jun 28, 2013 22:17
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thathonkey posted:I know this isnt the right thread but the biggest curveball from Pitchfork reviews in recent memory is the 9.5 they gave Yeezus.
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Jun 28, 2013 22:19
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Raging against P4k is a rite of passage and people have been doing since it started. Reviews are the opinion of the individual writer and you shouldn't judge the whole site by them (edit: Because pubs usually have many writers and the review largely depends on who gets to write on it). However, sometimes publications do an shared score system where everyone submits their score and they average it or sometimes its the reviewers individual score. The AVClub receives similar gripes but they are more transparent in how they rate media. But don't get too bent about a site because its is just an opinion and stuff.
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Jun 28, 2013 22:25
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Pitchfork does (or did) shared scores iirc. Im not mad about their scores or anything, i just said the Yeezus score was a bit of a curveball (edit: better phrasing would have been that it came as a surprise to me, although i honestly wasnt sure what to expect from them besides something 8.2+) Personally i prefer MBDTF as the better album of the two but their respective p4k scores both seem uncharacteristically inflated. Their scores for Watch the Throne and Cruel Summer struck me as more considerate. But even if they pool scores, theyre still highly subjective (obviously). Anywho, Enough about p4k and kanye in this thread though. thathonkey fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jun 28, 2013 |
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Jun 28, 2013 22:37
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The Daftside remix of Instant Crush is incredible and I will not hear otherwise. 
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Instant Crush remains the best track on the album but I still haven't heard a really good remix, or even one I prefer to the original.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:It sounds to me like this dude just pitch shifted certain elements, slowed others down and made some parts noisier than they already were. That's deserving of praise? It just sounds like some amateur used Audacity to do some "remixes" and then threw the final product up on YouTube. Rageaholic Monkey posted:I'm a fan of noise music when it's done well, but this is garbage for the most part. Rageaholic Monkey posted:And the moments when it does sound cool, that's not original. These are still just remixes. Rageaholic Monkey posted:Heh, well more recently they've been giving albums I like better scores than they used to, it seems. But let's not forget that this is the site that gave De-Loused In The Comatorium a 4.9 out of 10. For years, I'd read their reviews daily and know them as the site that gave poo poo albums good reviews and vice versa.
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Jun 29, 2013 00:27
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Both yeezus and mbdtf are fantastic but I would've docked more points off yeezus for having more lovely lines in less run length. And daftside is pretty darn good but Im still waiting for a remix to blow me away. And/or something from SebastiAn.
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Prefuse posted:you have no idea what you're talking about then Daftside parachute account spotted
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While we're on the subject I absolutely hate the whole Daftside thing and have a hard time understanding why it's gotten such universal praise, but different strokes &tc.
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Universal praise? &c I only like a couple of the remixes on there fwiw. Namely: Fragments of Time, Get Lucky, and Instant Crush. The "Lose Yourself to Dance" tease thing is lame as hell. Though I don't like the whole thing, Daftside was 100% not made with Audacity and it isn't amateurish. thathonkey fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Jun 29, 2013 |
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Jun 29, 2013 03:24
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Yeah, Daftside is mildly interesting. Also, that Justice Planisphere song is not super awesome. The guitar solo thing or whatever at the end is very...boring? Justice has an interesting sound the first few songs you hear of theirs and then I wish they were generally less abrasive and more subtle. They tend to sound like someone switching channels on a TV with terrible reception. That analogy means I'm old so don't listen to me.
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I'm pretty sure "gives every dogshit a high score" is not the stereotype people associate with Pitchfork.
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^^ Umm most definitely. From time to time, they undershoot some albums and overshoot others (usually really hyped/commercial stuff) but the majority of records they review are pretty balanced and well-considered. The quality of the written reviews varies pretty wildly but some of them are very well written. It's interesting how they went from that really amateurish, esoteric bullshit shop to one of the most important who's who of music critics on the internet. I know I've already posted about this a lot but... I dunno how some of you guys don't like Daftside. There are some really great remixes on there. I've been listening to it all weekend. Get Lucky and Fragments of Time are just fantastic. I'm curious what people would say if they were Daft Punk remixes (although it's not really their style). thathonkey fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jun 30, 2013 |
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I can totally see how people wouldn't like the Daftside remix. It's an entirely different vibe than the one that the original gives off. If it's not your thing, then it's not your thing and there's nothing wrong with disliking it. This, however:Rageaholic Monkey posted:It sounds to me like this dude just pitch shifted certain elements, slowed others down and made some parts noisier than they already were. It just sounds like some amateur used Audacity to do some "remixes" and then threw the final product up on YouTube. And the moments when it does sound cool, that's not original. These are still just remixes. is just false.
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So what, I have bad ears if Daftside sounds amateur to me? I've heard lots of remixes of lots of different tracks from lots of different artists that have impressed me in the past. These do nothing for me. And I don't get why they're getting so much praise because they're remixes of an album I've been listening to a hell of a lot the past month and a half or so but they don't seem to improve upon the originals or even really put enough a neat spin on them that merits listening to them more than once or twice. But y'all are entitled to your opinions and I'm entitled to mine.
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7seven7 posted:I can totally see how people wouldn't like the Daftside remix. It's an entirely different vibe than the one that the original gives off. If it's not your thing, then it's not your thing and there's nothing wrong with disliking it. Wasn't saying there is anything wrong with disliking it, I am just surprised more people aren't into it. And, I dunno, being an "entirely different vibe" is kind of what I look for in a (good) remix. I guess that's why I like it. Anyway, I'm definitely looking forward to more takes on RAM.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:So what, I have bad ears if Daftside sounds amateur to me?
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Yeah, I guess. Though the only time I consider remixes to be art is either when they're superior to the originals, or different and interesting enough that they make me want to listen to them as much as, if not more than the originals. And to do that for me, such remixes usually have to include strong added instrumentation that wasn't on the originals, or just take elements from the originals and change them up in a way that makes the remix legitimately interesting to listen to. If they don't, then to me they either feel like a cash-in or a tryhard or something along those lines. I feel like the Daftside remixes fall into that latter category. To me, they felt instantly stale. And a couple of them just felt like they were trying to be too noisy. Not the whole set by any means, but some of them. I have no doubt that somebody is going to make really neat remixes of the tracks on RAM eventually, remixes that I won't be able to get enough of, but I don't think Daftside even comes close. Just my opinion! Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Jul 1, 2013 |
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Jul 1, 2013 04:46
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The daftside remixes are pretty cool, I enjoyed them thoroughly and will continue to do so. BTW Rageaholic, art that you don't like is still art.
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an skeleton posted:The daftside remixes are pretty cool, I enjoyed them thoroughly and will continue to do so. Yeah, I suppose. They're an art form. I just define art as a great achievement or an interesting expression or something like that, but you're right, it can still be art even if it isn't art by my definition.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Yeah, I guess. Though the only time I consider remixes to be art is either when they're superior to the originals, or different and interesting enough that they make me want to listen to them as much as, if not more than the originals. And to do that for me, such remixes usually have to include strong added instrumentation that wasn't on the originals, or just take elements from the originals and change them up in a way that makes the remix legitimately interesting to listen to. If they don't, then to me they either feel like a cash-in or a tryhard or something along those lines. I feel like the Daftside remixes fall into that latter category. To me, they felt instantly stale. And a couple of them just felt like they were trying to be too noisy. Not the whole set by any means, but some of them.
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Some of you will be excited, but others will hate this: The RAM album may not be getting any music videos... but that Get Lucky remix WILL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LquuPcRDMNo
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Huh, so is that what they were filming in New York? And yeah, that's bizarre. They chose the 10 minute long remix instead of the 6 minute album version or the 4 minute radio edit to do a music video for?
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What? Why does that make you think it's getting a music video? It's quite clearly a teaser, along the lines of the other 3 or 4 teasers they've released for this album. They even specifically mentioned in the article where they said that they weren't doing music videos that they were more intrigued by 30-40 second minivids and how they fit into the current web content consumption world. There's no way they're making a video for a 10 minute remix. EDIT: 14:40ish of this vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZoUVnmr4Qc Wario In Real Life fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jul 2, 2013 |
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Jul 2, 2013 06:16
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That drat chronologic cover of get lucky is so loving good. I want full versions of all of them. Especially that hella C&C Music Factory 90's joint.
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Music Videos you say? Here, have this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fyci_q2TH0
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