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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

PostNouveau posted:

They mention in one of the commentary tracks that they have to design characters themselves. The offshore animators can't design for them, and they don't have the budget to hire anyone stateside to do it. So you get a lot of background characters showing up over and over again, as well as background characters getting fleshed out. When they need a new character, it's easier to just grab one that's already designed.

Someday we'll see story about the guy with a plug for a head or the space invaders guy.

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a cock shaped fruit
Aug 23, 2010



The true enemy of humanity is disorder.

Frostwerks posted:

He was doing it ironically to impact the skull.

Obviously.

twistedmentat posted:

Someday we'll see story about the guy with a plug for a head or the space invaders guy.


The SECRET ORIGIN OF PLUGFACE should be a direct to DVD movie that spans an epic story that ends up have literally nothing to do with The Venture Brothers. The movie ends with the beginning of 'Tag Sale - You're It'.

SevenSixTwoX39
Jun 28, 2009

Capitalism has triumphed all over the world, but this triumph is only the prelude to the triumph of labour over capital.
Something interesting I noticed was that in the first episode with Myra she mentions them actually being 19 years old. Now that could just be her being crazy but it made me wonder if actually that just means the doc spent a total of 3 years between different sets of clones. I think this may be backed up because there's one ep where a conversation takes place where someone says to the doc "They grow up so fast," and he remarks something like "Yeah, when you let them."

Dynamite Dog
Dec 12, 2012

They're pretty blatant about Doc lying to the boys about their age. In one of the episodes Hank gets something with his birthday on it and says "If this is right I'm..." and Doc cuts him off saying "Curiosity killed more than the cat, boy".

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

twistedmentat posted:

Someday we'll see story about the guy with a plug for a head or the space invaders guy.
I'm really looking forward to the backstory of the wizard with the '50s sci-fi metal hat with lights on it.

Leospeare
Jun 27, 2003
I lack the ability to think of a creative title.

Dynamite Dog posted:

They're pretty blatant about Doc lying to the boys about their age. In one of the episodes Hank gets something with his birthday on it and says "If this is right I'm..." and Doc cuts him off saying "Curiosity killed more than the cat, boy".

It's season 2 episode 2, I think. When the new clones are back to normal Hank and Dean.

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.

ultramiraculous posted:

It's Enrico, which is Itallian for Henry, and Matassa which is a unit of yarn sometimes called a "Hank".

Edit: Not intending to imply I had any idea about the second one until I looked up the translation.

Thank you, I couldn't find anything on Matassa. I think Google and Wikipedia kept giving me notable Italian people.

Did anyone else notice Doc's delivery about the butter dish? That was my favorite line until I saw Radical Left.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008

twistedmentat posted:

Someday we'll see story about the guy with a plug for a head or the space invaders guy.

I'm hoping for a story about the guy in with the robot arm and fannypack that punches the plug guy. Or just how that one villain with the Paul Lynde voice did after getting turned into goo by the Intangible Fancy. Or hell, actually explain who the Egotist is.

I listened to most of the commentaries recently.

echomadman
Aug 24, 2004

Nap Ghost
So my first T-Shirt package arrived this morning and because of their retarded labelling had a customs charge of €35, which is $45.
I had to refuse the package and send it back, no way i can afford to spend $520 total for 10 shirts.
I'm so pissed off right now.
I've emailed them about it to see if they can send them to me all at once at the end instead so i only pay import charges once

echomadman fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 11, 2013

Strawman
Feb 9, 2008

Tortuga means turtle, and that's me. I take my time but I always win.


LP97S posted:

I'm hoping for a story about the guy in with the robot arm and fannypack that punches the plug guy. Or just how that one villain with the Paul Lynde voice did after getting turned into goo by the Intangible Fancy. Or hell, actually explain who the Egotist is.

I listened to most of the commentaries recently.

Brick Frog!

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Strawman posted:

Brick Frog!

Apparently this wasn't just random wackiness. You know those bricks with indentations on the sides? Those indentations are called frogs. Brick frogs.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

ultramiraculous posted:

I think it was Doc who said they started putting "and there is no massive flopping dong" in the notes.

:psyduck: To be fair (from the Season 3 DVD) it is more of a comedic nudity. It's carefully placed in an area between not exactly tasteful but not exactly pornographic. (Well, except that one scene you mentioned, that was fairly messed up.)

a cock shaped fruit posted:

The SECRET ORIGIN OF PLUGFACE should be a direct to DVD movie that spans an epic story that ends up have literally nothing to do with The Venture Brothers. The movie ends with the beginning of 'Tag Sale - You're It'.

I believe "NEMA 5-15P" is a better name than "Plugface". (Possibly NEMA 5-50P or a 6-50P.)

NEMA 15-30P would have been cool, like a meditating electrical plug with a "third eye".

Three-Phase fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Jul 11, 2013

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Somebody was pointing out that if he's able to carry around that satchel of bricks like it's nothing, Brick Frog apparently has some pretty good super-strength going.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

echomadman posted:

So my first T-Shirt package arrived this morning and because of their retarded labelling had a customs charge of €35, which is €45.
I had to refuse the package and send it back, no way i can afford to spend $520 total for 10 shirts.
I'm so pissed off right now.
I've emailed them about it to see if they can send them to me all at once at the end instead so i only pay import charges once

Goddammit, I knew this was going to happen. Who thought this would be a good idea.

The shirts haven't arrived yet but I will probably do the same thing.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Apparently this wasn't just random wackiness. You know those bricks with indentations on the sides? Those indentations are called frogs. Brick frogs.

It is like reading a Discworld book. How many clever hidden details like that have we missed?

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Since this thread is so big on theories I'd like to put this one forward for you guys to poke holes in: Rusty is Dean and Hank's brother, not their father.

It's established really early on that Jonas was the one working on cloning technology, and Rusty is a tremendous failure who is unlikely to "perfect" a drat thing.

Definitely veering into fanfic territory, here, but Rusty's always been so pathetic that the idea of him scoring with any woman seems pretty impossible. They've touched a lot on his loneliness this season, especially when he was younger. If he were to, say, stumble upon a lab filled with clones of his father, he might be inclined to raise them as his own sons.

Given that Dean is a lot more physically similar to Jonas, it'd explain why Rusty is so obsessed with making Dean "just like the old man." Because it would then mean that he was just like his own father! Explain Hank has having got all the lousy, RECESSIVE GENES! :argh:

Ultimately, the reason I find this funny is if you throw in the Monarch teaser about him playing with Rusty as a child(which will probably go no where but bear with me,) it means that practically every main member of the cast is a Venture Brother.

edit: I know that technically Rusty is a "Venture Brother" no matter what and that your father's clone wouldn't necessarily be your brother but, on the other hand, shut up

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

That DICK! posted:

It's established really early on that Jonas was the one working on cloning technology, and Rusty is a tremendous failure who is unlikely to "perfect" a drat thing.

Except that Rusty's been shown to be a brilliant biologist/geneticist. You can't make a Frankenstein without knowing your poo poo, plus in the Halloween special, Ben said that he and Jonas started the cloning program and Rusty perfected it. It's the mechanical super sciences and engineering that he's terrible at, but in which Jonas was (and J.J. is) an expert.

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Silhouette posted:

Except that Rusty's been shown to be a brilliant biologist/geneticist. You can't make a Frankenstein without knowing your poo poo, plus in the Halloween special, Ben said that he and Jonas started the cloning program and Rusty perfected it. It's the mechanical super sciences and engineering that he's terrible at, but in which Jonas was (and J.J. is) an expert.

There are huge stretches of Venture Brothers that I just straight up do not remember at all, so I figured there'd be something to disprove it somewhere down the line. I've pretty much forgotten anytime Rusty's done anything right.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

SevenSixTwoX39 posted:

Something interesting I noticed was that in the first episode with Myra she mentions them actually being 19 years old. Now that could just be her being crazy but it made me wonder if actually that just means the doc spent a total of 3 years between different sets of clones. I think this may be backed up because there's one ep where a conversation takes place where someone says to the doc "They grow up so fast," and he remarks something like "Yeah, when you let them."

The way I saw it, it's not that Rusty took significant periods of time off. It's that he never knows when his kids are going to get killed. He keeps most of the clones in a "near-ready" stage and then when Hank and Dean die, he goes about "finishing" them. This takes however much time it takes (probably a few weeks to a few months), but given how frequently they've died, it's added up to a handful of years total over the course of their lives. The problem is that Hank and Dean don't remember that period of time, so they lie to them about their actual age and pretend that there are no missing chunks of time in their lives.

I also find it hilarious that the one thing Rusty is good at is actually illegal.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

That DICK! posted:

There are huge stretches of Venture Brothers that I just straight up do not remember at all, so I figured there'd be something to disprove it somewhere down the line. I've pretty much forgotten anytime Rusty's done anything right.

Rusty is definitely a genius, but it's quickly overshadowed by his laziness and greed. Anything he does is for his own benefit, and not to make the world a better place.

Plus, you know, WALKING EYE!

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.
The way I see it is that Rusty is a mad scientist who's too full of himself to acknowledge how messed up his projects really are. Kind of like a less capable Richard Impossible.

Harry
Jun 13, 2003

I do solemnly swear that in the year 2015 I will theorycraft my wallet as well as my WoW

Action Tortoise posted:

The way I see it is that Rusty is a mad scientist who's too full of himself to acknowledge how messed up his projects really are. Kind of like a less capable Richard Impossible.

I thought they've made it pretty clear he simply doesn't care.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
If Rusty only stuck to genetics he could probably cure cancer or something.

That said he's so invested in the whole ~super-science~ schtick that he can't accomplish anything.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Atlas Hugged posted:


I also find it hilarious that the one thing Rusty is good at is actually illegal.

Hey, let's not forget the Joy Can either.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
His skill level is totally dependent on how necessary/funny it is for him to be competent in that particular episode.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

JT Jag posted:

If Rusty only stuck to genetics he could probably cure cancer or something.

That said he's so invested in the whole ~super-science~ schtick that he can't accomplish anything.

He was so close to isolating that dang gay gene.

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008

Atlas Hugged posted:

The way I saw it, it's not that Rusty took significant periods of time off. It's that he never knows when his kids are going to get killed. He keeps most of the clones in a "near-ready" stage and then when Hank and Dean die, he goes about "finishing" them. This takes however much time it takes (probably a few weeks to a few months), but given how frequently they've died, it's added up to a handful of years total over the course of their lives. The problem is that Hank and Dean don't remember that period of time, so they lie to them about their actual age and pretend that there are no missing chunks of time in their lives.


Unless they died during SPANAKOPITA!

Haven't missed one in twenty years!

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

A Steampunk Gent posted:

Hey, let's not forget the Joy Can either.
Powered by THE SOUL OF A FORSAKEN CHILD.

StickyNavels
Apr 3, 2009

Silhouette posted:

Except that Rusty's been shown to be a brilliant biologist/geneticist. You can't make a Frankenstein without knowing your poo poo, plus in the Halloween special, Ben said that he and Jonas started the cloning program and Rusty perfected it. It's the mechanical super sciences and engineering that he's terrible at, but in which Jonas was (and J.J. is) an expert.
I just wanted to note that Ben says that he and Jonas perfected genetic engineering. He doesn't say anything about Rusty's part in it.

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

JT Jag posted:

Powered by THE SOUL OF A FORSAKEN CHILD.

This was another thing that was suggested in the Dr Killinger "The Doctor is Sin" episode - Dr Venture has the self absorption, lack of morality, hosed up childhood and scientific competence to become a very high profile super villain.

But he can't, because he's RUSTY VENTURE, and it doesn't jibe with his self righteous nature, so he rejects it and all of these personality quirks combine to basically make him an ineffective government contractor and just a general rear end in a top hat.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Atlas Hugged posted:

He was so close to isolating that dang gay gene.
If it wasn't for all those protestors...

Ror
Oct 21, 2010

😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟


Medullah posted:

Plus, you know, WALKING EYE!

Complete with monkey-proof welding.

TheBalor
Jun 18, 2001
Nah, nah, it's not that he's a great biologist or a terrible engineer. The fact is that Rusty was born to be a super-villain.

His most successful inventions are as follows:
Venturestein
Cloning Tanks
Orphan-powered dream machine
Ooo ray

What do they all have in common? They are abominations against god and man! Ergo, he should have been a villain.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
The show ends with Monarch working for OSI and Rusty a member of the Guild.

Flippinlikebirds
Feb 2, 2007
I'm an ideas man Michael. I think I proved that with Fuck Mountain.

TheBalor posted:

Nah, nah, it's not that he's a great biologist or a terrible engineer. The fact is that Rusty was born to be a super-villain.

His most successful inventions are as follows:
Venturestein
Cloning Tanks
Orphan-powered dream machine
Ooo ray

What do they all have in common? They are abominations against god and man! Ergo, he should have been a villain.

Also an extremely powerful aphrodisiac with only one side effect.

TheBalor
Jun 18, 2001

Flippinlikebirds posted:

Also an extremely powerful aphrodisiac with only one side effect.

Exactly. He would be an *amazing* villain, especially for someone like Jonas.

Firebatgyro
Dec 3, 2010

TheBalor posted:

Exactly. He would be an *amazing* villain, especially for someone like Jonas.

He'd be a terrible villian because he's far too lazy to actually go out and do any arching.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I could see Dr. Venture becoming a villain if Jonas killed his kids permanently.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

TheBalor posted:

Nah, nah, it's not that he's a great biologist or a terrible engineer. The fact is that Rusty was born to be a super-villain.

His most successful inventions are as follows:
Venturestein
Cloning Tanks
Orphan-powered dream machine
Ooo ray

What do they all have in common? They are abominations against god and man! Ergo, he should have been a villain.

Also the personal shield thing that traps everyone in the Oval Office in that crap episode.

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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

TheBalor posted:

Exactly. He would be an *amazing* villain, especially for someone like Jonas.

If only there was an episode where this very dilemma is placed in front of Rusty and we can see if he really is evil enough, or just a blundering scientist....

The Doc has always seemed kinda like Thomas Midgley Jr. to me. Not "evil" just totally unaware/uncaring of the ramifications since that's "not his job".

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