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Usually the updated version is more like an expansion and you still need the original game. At least, that's how it was for 3, 4, and 5. I never got 6 because I heard awful things and I got 7 on the 360 so no expansion for me.
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Yeah, it's 2013 and Tecmo Koei genuinely still believes in separate add-on disc expansions. Xtreme Legends aren't very good from my experience either.
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Jul 18, 2013 19:26
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Portable Staplefrog posted:Don't they always release an upgraded version of these games in a few months? I want to order this, but I'm happy to wait for a better version. You are better off riding the fresh release wave with the rest of us.
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Jul 18, 2013 19:56
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That's kind of what I expected and if the answer had been different, it might be too late.
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Jul 18, 2013 20:45
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I have the 360 version and while there's slowdown at points, it doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the game. Is the slowdown in that video just it to the extreme? If the slowdown is like the slowdown in DW 3/4/5 then I don't really care about it that much.
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I had the 360 version for about an hour and could not stand it. Even when installed to the hard disk, massive slowdown occurred any time there was some sort of elemental effect on the screen. Maybe my hardware has some deeper issues that the rest of the 360 owners in this thread don't have? I suppose it's possible that I ran head-first into the worst combination of things that caused the slowdown... (Shu story, mission 1, Yellow Turban Rebellion -> Cave with fire and ice effects EVERYWHERE.) When it took like, a full 45 seconds to perform Zhang Fei's EX combo ONCE, I knew that I wasn't going to enjoy the rest of game like that. Especially later on when my weapon would undoubtedly be covered in and dispensing out elemental effects. If you have the option to play on PS3, definitely go that route. All that aside, I'm really enjoying this game. The new weapons are fun, weapon switching is useful and the new auto-horse mounting button is THE SINGLE GREATEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO THIS SERIES.
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Jul 19, 2013 00:13
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Beanzor posted:All that aside, I'm really enjoying this game. The new weapons are fun, weapon switching is useful and the new auto-horse mounting button is THE SINGLE GREATEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO THIS SERIES. That was my exact thought once I realized how it worked. Red Dead Redemption needed this something powerful.
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Jul 19, 2013 00:54
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5er posted:That was my exact thought once I realized how it worked. Red Dead Redemption needed this something powerful. Ladders are still like that in DW8 though. edit: speaking of which, have you ever noticed that in action games, your blatantly superhuman character who can run 60mph, take bullets like a motherfucker and jump 20 feet in the air, still has to climb and get on/off ladders like a normal, rather slow human? The only exceptions I can think of are the Assassin's Creed series, and Half-Life 2 where you shoot up and down ladders like greased lightning. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Jul 19, 2013 |
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Jul 19, 2013 02:06
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It's there a requirement to get the 2 and 3 star awesome weapons ? I have a few now randomly in my inventory and they all rule. I'm talking about ones with gold stars instead of white orbs denoting levels.
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Jul 19, 2013 02:40
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Dynasty Warriors should do ladders like God Hand: Have a marker where you can just jump straight up and appear at the top of the ladder. Doesn't break the action and the opening FMV is mounting an upside down horse during an explosion so I think it thematically fits. Also holy poo poo quick mounting horses is the best thing ever. Horses have made decent progress from what they were way back in DW3.
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Jul 19, 2013 02:46
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GreatRedSpirit posted:Dynasty Warriors should do ladders like God Hand. Have a marker where you can just jump straight up and appear at the top of the ladder. Doesn't break the action and the opening FMV is mounting an upside down horse during an explosion so I think it thematically fits. Now I want a Dynasty Warriors-themed game in the style of God Hand. gently caress.
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Jul 19, 2013 02:48
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMs-WNN4-VA Get ready. Sengoku Basara 4 is coming.
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Really wish I had noticed the install option in the options screen. The loading of some events were killing me.
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Samurai Sanders posted:edit: speaking of which, have you ever noticed that in action games, your blatantly superhuman character who can run 60mph, take bullets like a motherfucker and jump 20 feet in the air, still has to climb and get on/off ladders like a normal, rather slow human? The only exceptions I can think of are the Assassin's Creed series, and Half-Life 2 where you shoot up and down ladders like greased lightning. I love ANY game that gives me, 'press button to slide down ladders'. I got used to the horse mounting mechanics in RDR. I particularly liked parking the horse on top of animal corpses to get out of the skinning animation. It'd drive me nuts however when on occasion you'd get on your horse and the fucker would spontaneously die. Especially if you were on a live-capture bounty. Policenaut posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMs-WNN4-VA I watched this trailer a couple hours ago and the best thing about it was my son watching it, and when the big 'BASARA 4' logo pops on at the beginning, he says, 'oh I know this game! It's the one with that guy that really, really, really hates Ieyasu right?'
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Policenaut posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMs-WNN4-VA So do we think there is any chance of Capcom pulling a Koei and releasing something on the English PSN for this game? Like no voice acting etc but translated text. I love the one that came out in NA but not really enough to import one when I have Dynasty/Samurai/Etc Warriors as alternatives for much cheaper than importing.
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Jul 19, 2013 06:12
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Man, gently caress the optional objective in Wei's Battle of Xu Province. I can't remember the last time I actually broke a controller. gently caress you, Tao Qian! 
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Jul 19, 2013 06:15
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Does doing the What If objectives through story stage select affect anything, or do you need to go through the story again? Because I cleared the the mission to save Sun Ce, but I missed the pot the first time and got it on stage select, but I don't know what it means by affecting the Battle of Hefei and I don't think it happened.
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The GIG posted:Does doing the What If objectives through story stage select affect anything, or do you need to go through the story again? Because I cleared the the mission to save Sun Ce, but I missed the pot the first time and got it on stage select, but I don't know what it means by affecting the Battle of Hefei and I don't think it happened. You can do everything through stage select.
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Jul 19, 2013 07:00
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I just spent 40 minutes as Han Dang in the battle of Yiling... trying to get an engineer to the fire attack point. I think I broke his ai as he was calling out the "come save me from officer!" text, by killing the officer DURING the announcement. So he spent the entire rest of the time (I was at 20 minutes left on the time limit when I quit) slowly running all over the map chasing enemy units, which refused to stop spawning... at all. And that was my second attempt at the map. First ended with Lu Xux stuck between two trees on the last objective but unable to move at all.
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Kaidyn posted:So do we think there is any chance of Capcom pulling a Koei and releasing something on the English PSN for this game? Like no voice acting etc but translated text. I love the one that came out in NA but not really enough to import one when I have Dynasty/Samurai/Etc Warriors as alternatives for much cheaper than importing. Capcom USA has said there is zero chance of another Basara game ever coming to the West.
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Jul 19, 2013 11:23
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So I've managed to get some noticeable slowdown when I rage attack into like a million guys. I can only imagine what it would be like on the 360 
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On PS3 I managed to get some pretty intense slowdown, I think it was at Chi Bi on the ships in the middle of like three enemy officers, a handful of friendlies, and a ton of mooks.
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I've been slogging through Ambition Mode with Xiahou Yuan and there hasn't been a lot of slowdown, but holy gently caress has there been a lot of phasing in with mooks. Spamming his EX attack basically results in a horde of mooks dying, and a new mob appearing right on top of them. Rinse and repeat like 5 times.
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Perdido posted:I've been slogging through Ambition Mode with Xiahou Yuan and there hasn't been a lot of slowdown, but holy gently caress has there been a lot of phasing in with mooks. Schrödinger's mooks. Trapped in a perpetual state of existing or not, until you observe them dying.
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Perdido posted:I've been slogging through Ambition Mode with Xiahou Yuan and there hasn't been a lot of slowdown, but holy gently caress has there been a lot of phasing in with mooks. Sounds like Warriors Orochi 3. It was a good game, but goddamn were the invisible troops annoying. Especially when it made tagged officers disappear from my True Triple Attacks.
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Maleketh posted:Sounds like Warriors Orochi 3. It was a good game, but goddamn were the invisible troops annoying. Especially when it made tagged officers disappear from my True Triple Attacks. Yeah, at least in this game officers and unit leaders have priority so they'll pretty much always be visible.
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Jul 20, 2013 05:32
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I like catching invisible troops with the Lightning Sword's C4 so I don't have to worry about seeing them. I've already grabbed them all!
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Jul 20, 2013 13:19
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Two questions about DW8. Can you not get allies in Ambition mode online if you're playing as the second player? And also, what does adding supervisors to a structure do anyway?
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Blarfo posted:Two questions about DW8. I think somewhere in the game or manual it says you do not gain allies if playing online. Putting supervisors to a structure lets you talk to them. It does jack poo poo.
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What's the best way to grind Materials in Ambition Mode? I've typically been sending troops off to search the first Province from the Barracks, hitting up the Stables every 3 fights, but I'm sure there's something I'm missing, hahah.
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Jul 21, 2013 00:51
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The most graphical slowdown I've been seeing has been in "fire" settings. Chi Bi being the worst.
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Calax posted:The most graphical slowdown I've been seeing has been in "fire" settings. Chi Bi being the worst. Doing a rage attack in a huge group of guys in Chi Bi is the best way to set your console on fire.
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Jul 21, 2013 01:02
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This is the best DW game I've played in a long while.
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I have to agree, I'm glad I waited a few years to see how far the series came since DW5. Has anyone been subverting the affinity triangle on Hard mode with more difficult targets? On Normal I've found even more of a use for the Lightning Sword against disadvantage opponent officers. Its Switch attack (non-counter) is a crumple stun that Normal mode AI doesn't see coming because they usually just eat the hit thinking the super armor they have at advantage will save them. The crumple animation allows super-spamming of Velocity-boosted Throwing Knives that all go through because they never cause flinch on hit. Switch back to Lightning Sword and repeat.
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Perdido posted:What's the best way to grind Materials in Ambition Mode? I've typically been sending troops off to search the first Province from the Barracks, hitting up the Stables every 3 fights, but I'm sure there's something I'm missing, hahah. I wonder this too. Materials are by far the grindiest part of Ambition Mode... fame and allies were relatively easy, but I probably have a couple hundred materials left before I get to 100%, and I don't even want to know how many until I max out everything.
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Hrm. Got my Combo King trophy (1000 hit combo) four times over at Fan Castle as Guan Suo. To be fair, he (and his nunchucks) are still OP as hell. That said, I'm not sure what I need to do but apparently I got a hypothetical Wu ending, and a "historical" Wei ending. It's looking like my Shu is edging towards Historical, but I wish I could find a flowchart or something to sort this out. Edit: As I post that, I find one. God I hope I don't have to re-do the entire campaign to get the "alternate" runs. Calax fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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Picked this up today after not having played Dynasty Warriors since like PS2 days. This is a lot of fun. Wu Kingdom for life bitch.
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abagofcheetos posted:I wonder this too. Materials are by far the grindiest part of Ambition Mode... fame and allies were relatively easy, but I probably have a couple hundred materials left before I get to 100%, and I don't even want to know how many until I max out everything. The merchant can convert weapon materials at a 1:2 ratio, which helps. And it seems as though the max rank for buildings is 50. You can still send troops to search provinces that are 100% in the Barracks, too. I keep sending them to the first province, which is good for 6-12 materials. One thing I will say about Ambition Mode is that it sucks once you have the bulk of your allies. I'm sick of beating Unit Commanders #1-12 to death instead of named guys. Also, to unlock Red Hare, you have to win 90 consecutive battles in Ambition Mode. Or do 30 consecutive battles 3x, apparently.
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Calax posted:That said, I'm not sure what I need to do but apparently I got a hypothetical Wu ending, and a "historical" Wei ending. It's looking like my Shu is edging towards Historical, but I wish I could find a flowchart or something to sort this out. By default, you get the historical ending for a story by playing it normally. Once you get that, you can see the special conditions that appear on stages in that story. There will be at least a few that affect a particular battle in some ambiguous way; once you have them all, you can play either the historical version of that battle or the hypothetical one, which lead to different sets of stages and endings. Luckily for you, all you have to do is replay the stage in question and fulfill the condition to earn the star associated with it. Redoing the whole story is unnecessary.
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