Wishy-Washy Waffling Whimsical Weave Wills Weal and Woe: Let's Play the BWP

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Skelicopter: Feb 19, 2013; More like Prince Alarming

Give the Tome to Syv, of course! I'd only say otherwise if it was an Intelligence Tome, in which case it'd go to Imoen.

I wonder what lessons Syv will learn from Mulgore being the one to take out Fear, Love, and Pride. Maybe that mindless, brute destruction is the best answer to inner turmoil?

# ? Jul 24, 2013 18:41

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Arkeus: Jul 21, 2013

Ok- not sure i should ask this here, but apparently one of the mods gave a Str limit to using arrows- E.G, Imoen can't put any arrows in the arrow slot. Is this actually one of the mods or a wrong install?

Back to the game: it's been a while since you used the stone of recall, and there was a quest triggered there with a ghost talking to Imoen. Maybe you should go back there :V

# ? Jul 24, 2013 18:58

Dunefar: Nov 20, 2003; Killer.

Syv gets the tome just because. Honestly, it's probably easier to boost him/her rather than keeping track of boosts across the NPC spectrum.

# ? Jul 24, 2013 19:26

Shei-kun: Dec 2, 2011; Screw you, physics!

All tomes to Syv, and poor Will isn't going to last past the first encounter if you let him anywhere near anything.

But man, is he going to gain some levels quickly if he lives!

# ? Jul 24, 2013 20:33

Serifina: Oct 30, 2011; So... dizzy...

Isn't Imoen's strength utterly pathetic? I vote her.

Edit: Herp, derp, stupid iPad. Stop autocorrecting me.

# ? Jul 24, 2013 20:48

Shei-kun: Dec 2, 2011; Screw you, physics!

I just noticed the thread title edit.

:allears:

Glad to be of help!

# ? Jul 24, 2013 20:55

AJ_Impy: Jun 17, 2007; SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?; Yam Slacker

By the WEAVE, will you stop asking that?! Every tome, every tome, Always all to Syvishtar. No exceptions. No hesitation. Take, read, and claim your true inheritance! I-We-You demand it!

# ? Jul 24, 2013 21:04

Benjifer: May 28, 2012

It looks like All Your Tomes Are Belong To Syv. Bit of a shame, but it makes sense. Especially now that he's realised his greed.

# ? Jul 24, 2013 21:34

SpannerX: Apr 26, 2010; I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.; Fun Shoe

Give it to Syv.

# ? Jul 24, 2013 22:10

Willie Tomg: Feb 2, 2006

Syv and by jove if there's anywhere for teeny rear end companions to be its durlag's. Enjoy your quick trip from and to Elfsong, Will.

# ? Jul 24, 2013 22:52

Slaan: Mar 16, 2009; ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

Tomes, tomes for the Syv throne!

# ? Jul 24, 2013 23:14

ETB: Nov 8, 2009; Yeah, I'm that guy.

I forget, did we pick up the wisdom tome in the upper levels and give it to Syv? Because really, that's how it should have gone.

# ? Jul 24, 2013 23:38

The Protagonist: Jun 29, 2009; The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

Tome to Syv obv. Budding god needs bookfood.

Also are we still betting on deaths? New guy is gonna' bite it real hard.

# ? Jul 24, 2013 23:47

Some of the Sheep: May 25, 2005; POSSIBLY IT WOULD BE SIMPLER IF I ASKED FOR A LIST OF THE HARMLESS CREATURES OF THE AFORESAID CONTINENT?

I'm hoping to see our first chunking.

# ? Jul 25, 2013 00:23

Vorgen: Mar 5, 2006; Party Membership is a Democracy, The Weave is Not.

A fledgling vampire? How about a dragon, or some half-kobold druids? Perhaps a spontaneous sex change? Anything that can happen, will happen the results will be beyond entertaining.

Linedance posted:

Syv needs strength to overcome Durlag's trials. He shall read the tome.

But first, you need to return to where you picked up Will and get his gear out of hock! He won't survive otherwise! (he won't survive anyway).

Yeah. We can finally see what his flail and armor do! Right before they fall off his corpse!

bladedsmoke posted:

Give the Tome to Syv, of course! I'd only say otherwise if it was an Intelligence Tome, in which case it'd go to Imoen.

I wonder what lessons Syv will learn from Mulgore being the one to take out Fear, Love, and Pride. Maybe that mindless, brute destruction is the best answer to inner turmoil?

That sounds like a valid interpretation to me!

Arkeus posted:

Ok- not sure i should ask this here, but apparently one of the mods gave a Str limit to using arrows- E.G, Imoen can't put any arrows in the arrow slot. Is this actually one of the mods or a wrong install?

Back to the game: it's been a while since you used the stone of recall, and there was a quest triggered there with a ghost talking to Imoen. Maybe you should go back there :V

Sorry, I've never heard of a mod like that before.

That quest was triggered by Imoen using one of the spells that she selected when she first became a mage, something that boosted DEX. Thanks for reminding me - maybe she can cast it again and we can see what that ghost does about it.

Shei-kun posted:

I just noticed the thread title edit.

Glad to be of help!

Yah, thanks for the idea!

ETB posted:

I forget, did we pick up the wisdom tome in the upper levels and give it to Syv? Because really, that's how it should have gone.

I don't remember seeing a wisdom tome in the upper levels... should I go back and check somewhere?

The Protagonist posted:

Tome to Syv obv. Budding god needs bookfood.

Also are we still betting on deaths? New guy is gonna' bite it real hard.

Yes, we're still betting on deaths. It is probably an easy way to clean up betting on Will, heh.

# ? Jul 25, 2013 01:41

Vorgen: Mar 5, 2006; Party Membership is a Democracy, The Weave is Not.

A fledgling vampire? How about a dragon, or some half-kobold druids? Perhaps a spontaneous sex change? Anything that can happen, will happen the results will be beyond entertaining.

We don't have any more winners in the death pool, but we do have a few more losers. Ghostwoods bet 2 votes that Xavia would be killed by the undead, but she died to a lightning trap. Also, Haystack and Linedance both bet that Mulgore would die, but since he left the party with Xavia, that is no longer possible. Too bad, better luck next time and all that.

(Also I seem to have listed loco88's bet for Syvishtar to kill someone first in the wrong category last post. Should be in the 2-factor bet category.)

Here's now things stand right now:

code:

*********************************
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*** GOLDEN COMPANY DEATH POOL ***
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*** 1-factor bets, for x1 payoff ***
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W2 AJ_Impy       - Xan dies 

 2 AJ_Impy       - Imoen dies
 3 ETB           - Imoen dies
 2 ETB           - someone dies by fireball trap
 4 Linedance     - Finch dies
 5 Sammage       - Imoen dies
 2 Semi-mental   - Finch dies

L2 Haystack      - Mulgore dies
L1 Linedance     - Mulgore dies


23 total votes in the 1-factor pool

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*** 2-factor bets, for x2 payoff ***
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W4 Maugrim          - Xan dies first

 2 Little_wh0re     - Finch killed by monsters
 1 Little_wh0re     - Imoen killed by Syv
 2 Little_wh0re     - Imoen killed by monsters
 3 loco88           - Imoen dies by trap
 3 Mountaineer      - Finch killed by uncontrollable ally
 2 Quarter Past Ten - Finch killed by Syvishtar(a)
 3 The Protagonist  - Imoen dies to uncontrollable ally
 1 Tithin Melias    - Imoen dies by trap

L2 Ghostwoods       - Xavia killed by undead
L2 loco88           - Syvishtar(a) kills someone first
L2 LucyWanabe       - Xan killed by monsters
L2 Quarter Past Ten - Xan killed by enemy
L4 The Iron Rose    - Somebody dies to Syvishtar(a) first
L4 Tithin Melias    - Imoen is first to die


37 votes in the 2-factor pool (74 vote possible win)

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*** 4-factor bets, for x4 payoff ***
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L2 Ilyich           - Imoen dies, in 1st basement, by Fireball trap, fleeing from skeleton warrior

 2 votes in the 4-factor pool (8 vote possible win)

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*** 6-factor bets, for x6 payoff ***
************************************

 5 Gharbad the Weak - Party wipe (each person dies is a factor, plus all in the same encounter is a factor)

 5 votes in the 6-factor pool (30 vote possible win)

code:

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***   VOTE ACCOUNT TRACKING   ***
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(Unless noted below, you have 5 votes)

1 AJ_Impy
0 ETB
0 Gharbad the Weak
3 Ghostwoods
3 Haystack
3 Ilyich
0 Linedance
0 Little_wh0re
0 loco88
3 LucyWanabe
1 Maugrim
2 Mountaineer
1 Quarter Past Ten
0 Sammage
3 Semi-mental
1 The Iron Rose
2 The Protagonist
0 Tithin Melias

# ? Jul 25, 2013 01:55

Cadence: Dec 31, 2007

ETB posted:

ALL TOMES TO SYV!

The voices speak almost in unison. Syv should use the tome (all tomes).

# ? Jul 25, 2013 01:58

Darthemed: Oct 28, 2007; "A data unit?
For me?"; College Slice

The tome of strength must go to Bub Snikt, so that his scintillating conversational skills can be shared with all inhabitants of the Sword Coast!

# ? Jul 25, 2013 02:08

ETB: Nov 8, 2009; Yeah, I'm that guy.

Vorgen posted:

I don't remember seeing a wisdom tome in the upper levels... should I go back and check somewhere?

I thought there was a wisdom tome near near the chapel, third floor?

It might be interesting roleplaying the revisiting of this spot. :v:

# ? Jul 25, 2013 02:14

Tongues: Aug 28, 2009; But I think those are eyes...
(source)

Our madness must be glorious to behold! All tomes to Syv!

# ? Jul 25, 2013 07:04

Serifina: Oct 30, 2011; So... dizzy...

Vorgen, I'll bid two votes on Will's death by gibbing. Because he has no health at all. And what the hell, I might as well join the mass confusion.

# ? Jul 25, 2013 08:43

Slaan: Mar 16, 2009; ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

I might as well as bid something as well.

I bet that Finch will die by a magic-user (i.e a person's spell, not like a fireball trap)

# ? Jul 25, 2013 08:50

stille: Oct 9, 2012

All tomes go to Syv. And wtf is possessing him to bring a level 1 troubadour to Durlag's Tower? Quaint hey-nonny-nonny-oh folk songs to keep the Knowledge away?

# ? Jul 25, 2013 11:36

biscuits and crazy: Oct 10, 2012

quote:

I thought there was a wisdom tome near near the chapel, third floor?

There is one normally, maybe there's an item randomiser mod somewhere in the BWP.

# ? Jul 25, 2013 12:10

Arkeus: Jul 21, 2013

Ilyich posted:

There is one normally, maybe there's an item randomiser mod somewhere in the BWP.

There is, one of the first post of the thread was about it (when he first wen to friendly arm inn). This is also why he found the same unique weapon many, many, many times.

# ? Jul 25, 2013 12:33

Ghostwoods: May 9, 2013; Say "Cheese!"

Syv for the tome. You always need more strength.
_{I'm sure that was undead lightning, dammit._{I could see the bones peeking through! _{Mmmm. Bones...}}}

# ? Jul 25, 2013 16:11

Mordecai: May 18, 2003; Known throughout the world! Chop people's head off to the ground! Angry eyes that frighten people! Dragon among humans, king of dragons... Manchurian Derp Deity, Ha Che'er.

All tomes to Squirrel.

# ? Jul 25, 2013 17:10

Vorgen: Mar 5, 2006; Party Membership is a Democracy, The Weave is Not.

A fledgling vampire? How about a dragon, or some half-kobold druids? Perhaps a spontaneous sex change? Anything that can happen, will happen the results will be beyond entertaining.

Arkeus posted:

Also, seems fourth time is the charm for my Big World Project install. This one was perfect install (over 13hundreds mods), with only one error: Widescreen mod -_-.

It has been two years since I installed this big world project. I think I need to install a new version when we get to the end of bg1. I'm gonna be doing that all in a few months too.

It is the perfect solution to the NTotSC mod not working. I can just simply go back to the city of baldurs gate and do those old quests! And I can switch out the imoen romance mod for the imoen friendship mod this time and have less creepiness to avoid. And I can make sure to NOT install the anti-chunking mod this time. And... and... and...

# ? Jul 26, 2013 05:39

Serifina: Oct 30, 2011; So... dizzy...

Vorgen posted:

It has been two years since I installed this big world project. I think I need to install a new version when we get to the end of bg1. I'm gonna be doing that all in a few months too.

It is the perfect solution to the NTotSC mod not working. I can just simply go back to the city of baldurs gate and do those old quests! And I can switch out the imoen romance mod for the imoen friendship mod this time and have less creepiness to avoid. And I can make sure to NOT install the anti-chunking mod this time. And... and... and...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't your current save highly unlikely to work in that case?

# ? Jul 26, 2013 05:52

Arkeus: Jul 21, 2013

Vorgen posted:

It is the perfect solution to the NTotSC mod not working. I can just simply go back to the city of baldurs gate and do those old quests! And I can switch out the imoen romance mod for the imoen friendship mod this time and have less creepiness to avoid. And I can make sure to NOT install the anti-chunking mod this time. And... and... and...

Which is the NToTS mod? Also, i totally made sure to choose the Imoen Friendship mode. Incidentally, what's the name of the anti-chunking one?

Tell me if it does that strange things with arrow for you too though :p

# ? Jul 26, 2013 06:07

Vorgen: Mar 5, 2006; Party Membership is a Democracy, The Weave is Not.

A fledgling vampire? How about a dragon, or some half-kobold druids? Perhaps a spontaneous sex change? Anything that can happen, will happen the results will be beyond entertaining.

My save is guaranteed to not work, but I can simply export my character and import him into the beginning of bg2 no problem. And if there are any discrepancies I can just edit Syvishtar back to the way s/hes supposed to be. That's why the beginning of BG2 is a natural place to do a reinstall.

# ? Jul 26, 2013 06:23

Lateinshowing: Oct 10, 2012; Fun Shoe

Anti-chunking? So you mean all this time, there couldn't be perma-death from massive damage?

# ? Jul 26, 2013 11:46

Shei-kun: Dec 2, 2011; Screw you, physics!

Lateinshowing posted:

Anti-chunking? So you mean all this time, there couldn't be perma-death from massive damage?

This better not be a thing! I've been wanting to see chunking this entire LP!

# ? Jul 26, 2013 12:44

Vorgen: Mar 5, 2006; Party Membership is a Democracy, The Weave is Not.

A fledgling vampire? How about a dragon, or some half-kobold druids? Perhaps a spontaneous sex change? Anything that can happen, will happen the results will be beyond entertaining.

Shei-kun posted:

This better not be a thing! I've been wanting to see chunking this entire LP!

Ok, I looked this up. There is an option in Sword Coast Stratagems II that tries to prevent chunking. From here:

quote:

Make party members less likely to die irreversibly

This component tries to prevent "chunking", the annoying permanent death of your character when you're reduced below -10 hp. Characters who get reduced to 0 hp or below just die in the usual fashion and can be resurrected. It isn't possible to prevent quite all forms of chunking (massive damage from fire, in particular, still seems to cause chunking fairly reliably), but this component should make it a rarer occurrence. This may be useful in the later stages of the game, when melee opponents often do 30-40 hp damage per blow - that 10 hp safety margin starts to feel slender.

So it isn't possible to prevent all forms of chunking but many are prevented. If I reinstall BWP I can not choose that.

# ? Jul 26, 2013 14:03

Arkeus: Jul 21, 2013

Vorgen posted:

So it isn't possible to prevent all forms of chunking but many are prevented. If I reinstall BWP I can not choose that.

We are all eagerly awaiting our Xan meatballs.

# ? Jul 26, 2013 14:27

Willie Tomg: Feb 2, 2006

That'll be good for the transition to BG2. The trip from almost-dead to -50HP will also happen a gently caress of a lot more than it does in BG1. And its happening a fair amount of times already.

# ? Jul 26, 2013 14:49

stille: Oct 9, 2012

Imoen romance? Bloody hell, man, did you not look on what you were clicking? Good think you're doing a reinstall then.

Doubt NTotSC will work anyway however. Buggy, buggy, buggy PoS.

# ? Jul 26, 2013 15:58

Cythereal: Nov 8, 2009; I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

stille posted:

Imoen romance? Bloody hell, man, did you not look on what you were clicking? Good think you're doing a reinstall then.

Trust me, it's notorious in the modding community as well. That mod has its own small, very creepy but intensely devoted fanbase, but most of the modding community loathes it. There's a revamp of the mod currently underway, and the lady coding it refused to proceed unless the person who took charge of the mod after its original author disappeared agreed to remove the scene where you can attempt to rape Imoen.

# ? Jul 26, 2013 16:02

Pizdec: Dec 10, 2012

The day will come when some hapless soccer mom or journalist stumples upon some seedy modding community like that, and ~~some sensationist media outlet~~ FOX News ends up doing one of their "Think of the children" features. Connecting the game to child molesters, demonizing the developers, "why aren't the police doing anything", the works. It will be such a trainwreck.

I can't even tell if they'd be entirely wrong, too.

# ? Jul 26, 2013 16:29

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# ? May 13, 2024 06:57

Cythereal: Nov 8, 2009; I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Pizdec posted:

The day will come when some hapless soccer mom or journalist stumples upon some seedy modding community like that, and ~~some sensationist media outlet~~ FOX News ends up doing one of their "Think of the children" features. Connecting the game to child molesters, demonizing the developers, "why aren't the police doing anything", the works. It will be such a trainwreck.

I can't even tell if they'd be entirely wrong, too.

It will more likely be the Nexus community than the Baldur's Gate modding community, though. Most of the mod NPC romances are pretty tame stuff - what we've seen so far is fairly typical. There are just a handful of outliers like the Imoen, Sarevok, and Keldorn romances. Nexus mods, on the other hand, go into full-blown porn and deviance.

# ? Jul 26, 2013 17:11

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