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JediTalentAgent posted:One thing about the string of Hank/Dean deaths that we've been shown, they mostly seem to all happen while they're close to their current ages, or at least still mid-teens. For all the talk of their constant deaths there didn't seem to be any pre-teen examples of their deaths. I am pretty sure you see two babies when Mya was getting committed.
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bobkatt013 posted:I am pretty sure you see two babies when Mya was getting committed. Granted, but we also don't see their childhoods beyond that, and we're also told that at some point that they died at some point Doc to start making clone slugs of them. I don't recall any examples of Hank and Dean as kids, holiday photos, flashbacks, etc. I'm just wondering if the 'original' Hank and Dean died very young the first time and the time it took to develop and activate the clones, Doc simply made the first post-death clone batch aged up to teenage years.
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Jul 31, 2013 09:30
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No idea what will come of this but from Jackson's twitter:Jackson Publick posted:@jacksonpublick 3h
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Jul 31, 2013 09:32
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JediTalentAgent posted:One thing about the string of Hank/Dean deaths that we've been shown, they mostly seem to all happen while they're close to their current ages, or at least still mid-teens. For all the talk of their constant deaths there didn't seem to be any pre-teen examples of their deaths. You're overthinking it. Their deaths are all at the same ages because it meant that a) they didn't have to design and animate loads of different Dean and Hanks at different ages and b) it made the joke work better because we immediately identify the dead boys as the same characters we recognise from the present, showing pre-teen Hank jumping off the roof as Batman wouldn't be as funny as regular Hank jumping off the roof as Batman. And the clones being the correct age is just storytelling shorthand, it creates a much more effective image than if the boys were featureless foetuses in tubes and is far more comically grotesque, in keeping with Rusty's unethical superscience schtick.
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Jul 31, 2013 09:35
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Dynamite Dog posted:No idea what will come of this but from Jackson's twitter: If I have to send them back overseas I'll be mad
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Jul 31, 2013 10:19
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It's mentioned as late as Season 4 (might have been late Season 3) that the current Hank and Deans are the fifteens, though god help me if I could remember the actual quote (it was something sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek) and since all the slugs are massacred by the Death's Head Panoply at the end of Season 3, I think that settles it.
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Jul 31, 2013 10:49
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The boys don't exist in a standard cartoon vacuum though. We've seen them age about 4 years in the course of the show despite having to be replaced (once?). Rusty is a really cynical jaded selfish fellow, and isn't much the type to get saddled with a couple kids and immediately devote 12 years to raising them well. It could be as simple as throwing them in the learning beds while unpaid staff like H.E.L.P.E.R., Hector, and Swifty picked up the slack. Part of me hopes they somehow go over the top, and have it be extra ridiculous like superfecundation (twins from different fathers) by some convoluted explanation. From Myra's issues, she was clearly looking for a "baby" to save(Florence Nightingale Syndrome, White Knight Syndrome), so I could see discovering her infertility as a typical storyteller's excuse to join the military, become a crazy (drug and manipulate your brain/body chemistry)OSI agent. Add in post-college dropout "I can fix anything my dad couldn't" Rusty placing her on a pedestal for repeatedly saving his life(erotomania), testing fertility treatments with a romantically compromised Myra, who is shtoop'ed by Brock during the changing of the guard before he realizes that she is a long term security risk and OSI relocates her. Then a few months later, the Cardholders show up with a toe headed baby and a bald baby. Then an awesome montage of House of the Mummies-esqe montage of Doc and Brock adventuring through 1990-2002 wearing Baby Bjorn's. It could also make sense that Rusty uses superscience to hyper-age them though, being dragged around with his Dad on adventure's and thrown in to the spotlight as a child is something Rusty regards as the trigger for all of his traumatic experiences if not pivotal in his downfall.
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Jul 31, 2013 13:01
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Dynamite Dog posted:No idea what will come of this but from Jackson's twitter:  You know what, that almost seems plausible.
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Jul 31, 2013 13:17
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Venture Bros Clue, who broke H.E.L.P.eR. in the Venture Compound?
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Jul 31, 2013 13:35
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JediTalentAgent posted:Granted, but we also don't see their childhoods beyond that, and we're also told that at some point that they died at some point Doc to start making clone slugs of them. In the episode with the botched Dean clone Brock is shown around the lab with a bunch of baby clones. Plus that whole episode is all about how Not Dean went crazy watching Regular Hank and Regular Dean getting all the attention from Rusty.
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Jul 31, 2013 13:35
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All the dead clones were teenagers because outright child death would be less funny and would require new model sheets.
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Jul 31, 2013 14:19
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Dynamite Dog posted:No idea what will come of this but from Jackson's twitter: What if you only have a Hankbuck™? 
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Jul 31, 2013 14:22
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Is anybody else having a rough time with the shirt club? So far I have two wearable shirts, two with holes and one or two just plain haven't shipped / shown up. 
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Jul 31, 2013 15:30
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Cobalt Chloride posted:In the episode with the botched Dean clone Brock is shown around the lab with a bunch of baby clones. Plus that whole episode is all about how Not Dean went crazy watching Regular Hank and Regular Dean getting all the attention from Rusty. Rusty is starting over? Huh. I must've whiffed on that.
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Jul 31, 2013 15:31
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Red posted:Rusty is starting over? Huh. I must've whiffed on that. I think it was in a flashback.
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Jul 31, 2013 15:33
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Red posted:Rusty is starting over? Huh. I must've whiffed on that. efb
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Jul 31, 2013 15:34
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thexerox123 posted:I think it was in a flashback. I was gonna say - the cloning tanks were all destroyed by Orpheus' staff during the fight with the Neo-Nazis, right?
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Jul 31, 2013 15:35
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Red posted:I was gonna say - the cloning tanks were all destroyed by Orpheus' staff during the fight with the Neo-Nazis, right? He built them once, he can build them again.
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Jul 31, 2013 16:06
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Install Windows posted:He built them once, he can build them again. I'd bet that the actual materials/tanks were built by Jonas, Sr., likely with Ben's help.
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Jul 31, 2013 16:40
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I always figured that the reason the clones were all the same age is because that is the first age that Hank and Dean died. Just saw an AT&T ad with James Urbaniak, his only line is after one of his employees asks to borrow his boat, a very flat No.
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Jul 31, 2013 16:48
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Comrade Quack posted:Is anybody else having a rough time with the shirt club? So far I have two wearable shirts, two with holes and one or two just plain haven't shipped / shown up. My first pack of shirts came in fine but I haven't gotten any news on the rest. Did you contact Titmouse to see about getting a replacements?
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Jul 31, 2013 17:02
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Red posted:I'd bet that the actual materials/tanks were built by Jonas, Sr., likely with Ben's help. Nah I think it's pretty clear that it's Rusty who knows what's up with them. The original revisions might have been Jonas' but Rusty seems to have a complete knack for cloning, resurrection, and biology stuff of all sorts.
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Jul 31, 2013 17:28
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Install Windows posted:Nah I think it's pretty clear that it's Rusty who knows what's up with them. The original revisions might have been Jonas' but Rusty seems to have a complete knack for cloning, resurrection, and biology stuff of all sorts. Just keep him away from genetic mutations.
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Jul 31, 2013 18:22
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I rewatched the old Brisby episode and I got the impression that if Congress hadn't outlawed cloning technology, Rusty's career might have been on a completely different track. Honestly, given how well the clone slugs work, Rusty's cloning tech would be revolutionary; if he was able to prevent brain development altogether, he could mass-produce organs for transplants. Or make custom slugs for wealthy individuals who want a whole personal backup set of "spare parts".
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Jul 31, 2013 18:50
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I rewatched the old Brisby episode and I got the impression that if Congress hadn't outlawed cloning technology, Rusty's career might have been on a completely different track. Honestly, given how well the clone slugs work, Rusty's cloning tech would be revolutionary; if he was able to prevent brain development altogether, he could mass-produce organs for transplants. Or make custom slugs for wealthy individuals who want a whole personal backup set of "spare parts". But then it would be legal and Rusty would be bad at it. He's only good at destructive and criminal science!
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Jul 31, 2013 18:53
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I rewatched the old Brisby episode and I got the impression that if Congress hadn't outlawed cloning technology, Rusty's career might have been on a completely different track. Honestly, given how well the clone slugs work, Rusty's cloning tech would be revolutionary; if he was able to prevent brain development altogether, he could mass-produce organs for transplants. Or make custom slugs for wealthy individuals who want a whole personal backup set of "spare parts". Yeah, his cloning/memory storage project is actually quite noble, and I think he would have been a bad(worse) father if he hadn't done it despite being capable. Not only did he prevent their deaths, he also can cure genetic diseases and similar genetic issues. Rusty's attitude toward death seems to very clearly be the right one, and it being illegal is a grave injustice in ventureland. Also, presumably the boys still can't die. They don't have bodies ready but their memories should be safely stored in the venture computer. Jeffrey of YOSPOS fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jul 31, 2013 |
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Pick posted:But then it would be legal and Rusty would be bad at it. He's only good at destructive and criminal science! That was Doctor Killinger's analysis, wasn't it?
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Jul 31, 2013 18:55
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Wax On posted:My first pack of shirts came in fine but I haven't gotten any news on the rest. Did you contact Titmouse to see about getting a replacements? They said they'd ship the first 2 problem shirts. I haven't see tracking or the shirts yet. I haven't heard back about the second email I sent yesterday. I'm waiting until Friday to see what shirts show up to see if my OSI ones are in limbo or just slow.
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Jul 31, 2013 19:01
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prefect posted:That was Doctor Killinger's analysis, wasn't it? Hey, he isn't a... bad person. That was probably my favorite part of the episode. Rusty may be an rear end in a top hat, but he ain't an evil rear end in a top hat.
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Jul 31, 2013 19:16
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Jeffrey posted:Yeah, his cloning/memory storage project is actually quite noble, and I think he would have been a bad(worse) father if he hadn't done it despite being capable. Not only did he prevent their deaths, he also can cure genetic diseases and similar genetic issues. Rusty's attitude toward death seems to very clearly be the right one, and it being illegal is a grave injustice in ventureland. They stopped using the learning beds, and Dean destroyed his.
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Jul 31, 2013 19:21
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ChairMaster posted:They stopped using the learning beds, and Dean destroyed his. True, I guess they'll have to go back to whatever the last backup was. Still, seems like a better fate than having only one human body and actually dying when it's destroyed. The learning beds' memory saving/restoring was an even better invention than the clones.
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Jul 31, 2013 19:23
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Rusty started the clones of the boys when they were 3. They're greeted as 16 year olds. Myra later says they were 19, hence the 3 year start point for the slugs growing. The boys just apparently started dying in their teens.
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Jul 31, 2013 21:00
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Mr. Nice! posted:The boys just apparently started dying in their teens.
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Jul 31, 2013 21:17
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Cobalt Chloride posted:In the episode with the botched Dean clone Brock is shown around the lab with a bunch of baby clones. Plus that whole episode is all about how Not Dean went crazy watching Regular Hank and Regular Dean getting all the attention from Rusty. From this I always just assumed that Rusty had the clones age in parallel with the boys for as long has he could so they would always be the exact right age. Perhaps the slugs can only age to pre-pubesence or Rusty just halted the aging at that point for some reason.
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Jul 31, 2013 21:26
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No, that always seemed to be the case to me as well. It looks like he can halt the aging process, but not speed it up, which is why he needed dozens and dozens of slugs waiting around to replace Hank and Dean. Can't just grow new ones.
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Jul 31, 2013 22:37
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LP97S posted:Venture Bros Clue, who broke H.E.L.P.eR. in the Venture Compound? At the end of the game after you've made your prediction, you hit a button and Helper's voice explains in great detail who killed it and how.
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TheBalor posted:No, that always seemed to be the case to me as well. It looks like he can halt the aging process, but not speed it up, which is why he needed dozens and dozens of slugs waiting around to replace Hank and Dean. Can't just grow new ones. What about the clone of the kid who died at the Boy Adventurers Camp?
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Jul 31, 2013 23:06
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:What about the clone of the kid who died at the Boy Adventurers Camp? Pretty sure that was a baby.
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Hbomberguy posted:Pretty sure that was a baby. He implied it was a regular child and it would become normal soon. It doesn't really fit the rest of the clone plots, I'm guessing it was just them not caring/paying attention. It also is unexplained how they got its memories back.
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Jeffrey posted:He implied it was a regular child and it would become normal soon. It doesn't really fit the rest of the clone plots, I'm guessing it was just them not caring/paying attention. It also is unexplained how they got its memories back. I don't think it did have it's memories, since Venture mentioned they would have to re-potty train it.
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