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I haven't finished The Bureau yet but I was looking at the achievements and did see this: Enemy Within Have Mind Controlled enemies get a total of 15 kills within a single campaign It's a hint. 
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Yeah I'm actually surprised that you could succeed in a Terror mission by saving only 1/18th of the civilians present. Heavier penalties for civilian deaths would go a long way towards encouraging players to actually do their job.
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Aug 20, 2013 21:10
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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Andre Banzai posted:What the hell is that insignia on the left, with a skull?
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Aug 20, 2013 21:12
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misguided rage posted:There kinda already are, if you only save one dude you get a single point of panic reduction in that one country, if you save everyone (and don't lose any guys) you reduce three local and two continent-wide points. It could certainly be harsher, say saving <5 guys results in the country increasing in panic. They already withdraw instantly if you save 0. drat, that's a nice reward. I didn't realize that there was a difference because you usually lose at least 1-4 civilians before you can do anything about it. It would definitely be better if there was some sort of reward gradient, given that 100% rescue rates are pretty farfetched.
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Aug 20, 2013 21:12
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:drat, that's a nice reward. I didn't realize that there was a difference because you usually lose at least 1-4 civilians before you can do anything about it. It would definitely be better if there was some sort of reward gradient, given that 100% rescue rates are pretty farfetched. I'm pretty sure there is, although I don't know the specifics.
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Aug 20, 2013 21:18
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immortal flow posted:So this is weird: http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/Uber_Ethereal (spoilers~) At the least, they could've had a line about that he don't care about saving "the volunteer", that just his success is proof enough that the human race is pretty great. But the rest of his quotes makes him out to be surprised that they're still fighting.
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Aug 20, 2013 21:21
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Some new Enemy Within details on a dutch website: November 15th Release Date. New Storylines. Extends some existing maps. Adds new maps. Doubles number of MP maps. New Mech Trooper class (!) Sounds pretty dope. edit: more details from Dutch sources. I guess Garth stopped in Amsterdam on his way to Gamescon for "refreshments" and chatted up XCOM: EW with the local press. Translation seems rough. Here's my take (please correct me goons.nl). The green smoking goo in the alien pods looks like it is actually Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle type Mutagen. You can collect this stuff on tactical maps and then open up research options for new cybernetic and genetic modifications for your soldiers. The new Mech Trooper class is based on this. Aliens get this too, so watch for upgraded aliens throughout the game. "Mechtoids"  Clearly some multiplayer upgrades. With new classes, weapons, and abilities I would expect a substantial rebalancing to all MP elements. amanasleep fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Aug 20, 2013 |
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Aug 20, 2013 21:21
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Muscle Tracer posted:I'm pretty sure there is, although I don't know the specifics. Really? Have I somehow been missing this the entire time? If so, I take back my previous comments. EDIT: XCom Wiki seems to explain it pretty well, although not with exact details: quote:Additionally, panic is decreased by up to three points in the country where the mission took place (varies depending on the number of civilians saved) and by up to two points across the continent (depending on the scoring in all mission areas); scoring Excellent in all three areas can be a way to provide a sizeable panic reduction to a troubled continent. Andre Banzai posted:Guys, the soldiers are holding freaking PISTOLS in that banner, the world seems to have gone up in flames, the XCOM insignia has changed and you're not conjecturing? C'mon, c'mon! ...GANGS! XCOM will be recruiting gangs! Cream-of-Plenty fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Aug 20, 2013 |
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Aug 20, 2013 21:21
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Guys, the soldiers are holding freaking PISTOLS in that banner, the world seems to have gone up in flames, the XCOM insignia has changed and you're not conjecturing? C'mon, c'mon!
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Aug 20, 2013 21:22
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Really? Have I somehow been missing this the entire time? If so, I take back my previous comments. TBH, I never really payed attention to how things change afterwards since my first play through. But the disparity between 1 local terror and 3 local / 2 continental terror is so huge that I'd definitely assume there is. I just wish the XCOM wiki had the actual gradient... I'd assume 1-6 = 1 local, 6-12 = 2/1 local/continental, and 13-18 = 3/2 or something like that?
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Aug 20, 2013 21:23
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Andre Banzai posted:Guys, the soldiers are holding freaking PISTOLS in that banner, the world seems to have gone up in flames, the XCOM insignia has changed and you're not conjecturing? C'mon, c'mon! There's not really anything to conjecture on yet. ^  ^ Besides, we'll find out the answers tomorrow so its not like there's a long wait or anything.
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Aug 20, 2013 21:23
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The only thing I want from an expansion is COOP mode. Just got my buddy into this game and I'd love to be able to do a few maps with him. Pick a big map, up the number of enemies and let the plasma fly!
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Aug 20, 2013 21:25
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amanasleep posted:Some new Enemy Within details on a dutch website: I really hope they added more varied maps. It was getting old being told I was getting sent to Central Africa but I land in what looks like Maine.
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Aug 20, 2013 21:26
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Handsome Ralph posted:I really hope they added more varied maps. It was getting old being told I was getting sent to Central Africa but I land in what looks like Maine. "Alright, for this next mission, we're going to Egypt to investigate a downed UFO." (Skyranger lands in a boreal forest)
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Aug 20, 2013 21:28
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amanasleep posted:Some new Enemy Within details on a dutch website: Happy birthday me 
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Aug 20, 2013 21:29
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:"Alright, for this next mission, we're going to Egypt to investigate a downed UFO." Yeah and it would be awesome to have environments like in the original game: mountain, desert, arctic, jungle. Now that I think about it, do we even have farms?? I think we have something like it, but not like in the original, with barns and stuff.
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Aug 20, 2013 21:38
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Andre Banzai posted:Yeah and it would be awesome to have environments like in the original game: mountain, desert, arctic, jungle. Now that I think about it, do we even have farms?? I think we have something like it, but not like in the original, with barns and stuff.
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Aug 20, 2013 21:42
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teethgrinder posted:I vaguely remember them saying they pulled their farm maps because they play-tested poorly and just couldn't figure out how to make them work with the new movement/cover/action system. I see. Well, if Murder Street is better, farm maps must have really sucked.
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Aug 20, 2013 21:44
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More Dutch press on Enemy Within: Enemy Within missions happen within the same timeline and story as Enemy Unknown. Will be released as part of "Commander Edition" bundle. PC Only so far. Console support unknown.
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Aug 20, 2013 21:51
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We dun' take kindly to new classes around 'ere. Here's to hoping an expansion brings about a rebalance. teethgrinder posted:I vaguely remember them saying they pulled their farm maps because they play-tested poorly and just couldn't figure out how to make them work with the new movement/cover/action system. Easy, add incendiary rounds. The rest will fix itself.
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Aug 20, 2013 21:57
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I asked before about how Xcom runs on a MacBook and I was answered that it will have to run it on the low graphics setting with some choppy animation. Should I still get it for a MacBook or should I get it for the XBox instead?
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Aug 20, 2013 22:00
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SgtSteel91 posted:I asked before about how Xcom runs on a MacBook and I was answered that it will have to run it on the low graphics setting with some choppy animation. Should I still get it for a MacBook or should I get it for the XBox instead? You said it's a MacBook Pro. Can you tell us what year it is and some of the specs? My 2009 Core 2 Duo 15-inch one runs it just fine on moderate settings.
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Processor is 2.4 GHz Intel Core Duo Memory is 4 GB
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amanasleep posted:Yes. Yes it is. Here's a taste: Triple barrels, but that's clearly not the Heavy Laser or the Heavy Plasma which are the only triple-barreled guns. Not to mention that his armour looks nothing like what we have now. He sort of looks like the Iron Man MK1 suit, which I guess is either this new class, or the cybernetic enhancements they were talking about. Does this mean that I can now have a team of Adam Jensens? E: Maybe it's a heavy cannon. With incendiary rounds! Groetgaffel fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Aug 20, 2013 |
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SgtSteel91 posted:Processor is 2.4 GHz Intel Core Duo Can you tell me what graphics card you have? There never was a 2.4 GHz Core Duo MBP so I'm assuming you mean Core 2 Duo.
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Yeah it's a Core 2 Duo I think it's NVIDIA GeForce 320M. SgtSteel91 fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Aug 20, 2013 |
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Aug 20, 2013 22:11
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Does the Mac Steam store show a XCOM demo? There's one for PC, if in doubt that's your best bet for deciding if it runs acceptably.
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Groetgaffel posted:The two flanking people has pistols, and there's a sniper rifle. Left center looks like a shotgun, and right center is clearly a sniper rifle, but what the hell is the center dude holding? Actually, now that I'm re-examining that picture, the dude in the middle looks like he(?) could be the new Mech Trooper class. His left arm looks pretty robotic, and his ankles look like they're bolted on. Maybe he's holding a new autocannon.
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Aug 20, 2013 22:27
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Actually, now that I'm re-examining that picture, the dude in the middle looks like he(?) could be the new Mech Trooper class. His left arm looks pretty robotic, and his ankles look like they're bolted on. Maybe he's holding a new autocannon. This is my guess. Putting a new class front and center on the promotional stuff makes sense to me.
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amanasleep posted:Some new Enemy Within details on a dutch website: It might be asking too much, but I hope there's way more than this in the expansion. I want civ 5 levels of refinement and adding content. [e] Though I'll happily take it if it's just to tide people over for a Apocalypse remake next year
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Muscle Tracer posted:I've long wanted to see some operations where XCOM works in tandem with local military/police forces, and this would actually work really well with the problem you describe. If you can stun/free the brainwashed soldiers you're fighting, they join your side, or get better benefits from their bosses. I'd also love to see a mechanic where PSI attacks against a mind-controlled unit affected the unit's controller, not it itself, too. If you wanted to cut out the middle man (Literally), you could attack the mind controller through the mind controlled unit, killing the unit in the process. Edit: The world going to hell makes sense from a story perspective, considering that the situation room tells you neutral stuff about supply line issues, food shortages, infrastructure damage, the usual. I wouldn't be surprised if Dr Valen and Central decided to use the power of X-COM to instill some order in the way the UN should have. Which raises the question - What terrestrial force can stand up to a Firestorming, Blaster Bombing, Mind Raping X-Com? WarpedNaba fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Aug 20, 2013 |
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Antares posted:Does the Mac Steam store show a XCOM demo? There's one for PC, if in doubt that's your best bet for deciding if it runs acceptably. I tried downloading the PC demo on the Steam Store page but it says that it's "not available on your current platform."
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DrManiac posted:It might be asking too much, but I hope there's way more than this in the expansion. I want civ 5 levels of refinement and adding content. I hope so too. The stuff that's mentioned is welcome (MAPS!), but this is sounding like an only slightly more ambitious project than Slingshot.
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Rinkles posted:I hope so too. The stuff that's mentioned is welcome (MAPS!), but this is sounding like an only slightly more ambitious project than Slingshot. What? Slingshot was 3 maps and a single Cutscene [Also Hats]
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MadHat posted:What? Slingshot was 3 maps and a single Cutscene [Also Hats] Okay, that was a bit hyperbolic.
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I've always kind of hoped that any expansions to XCOM would follow somewhat the model of board games: add new events, maps, functionalities, enemies and goals, as XCOM is rather boardgamey in it's execution. If any of this is true, then I am very, very happy about it all. Do we know at what time the Firaxis conference is gonna be at towmorrow?
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SgtSteel91 posted:I tried downloading the PC demo on the Steam Store page but it says that it's "not available on your current platform." I'd get it for your computer, as the expansion coming out is going to be available for Mac on the same day, but won't be out for consoles for a bit. It really doesn't reduce playability in the slightest—the only choppiness I encounter are in the "kill" animations that are pretty much fluff, and in one of the loading screens.
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Revener posted:Guess we'll find out tomorrow. By the way, for those wanting the bureau spoiler: Your character is wearing suspenders the whole time. Yeah, it's that lame. Well, that was a fun accidental mouseover. Thanks for saving me the bandwidth, I guess.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Yeah I'm actually surprised that you could succeed in a Terror mission by saving only 1/18th of the civilians present. Heavier penalties for civilian deaths would go a long way towards encouraging players to actually do their job. No amount of encouragement will keep me from thinking "We saved ONE guy!" isn't the best course of action, when it is a highway overpass full of double digit amounts of chrysalids with some cyberdisks thrown in.
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Section Z posted:No amount of encouragement will keep me from thinking "We saved ONE guy!" isn't the best course of action, when it is a highway overpass full of double digit amounts of chrysalids with some cyberdisks thrown in. This right here. I don't care about any bonuses when doing anything other than grandma crawling through the map will result in a total wipe because you just aggroed 6 Chrysalids. Also, anyone have any tips for the second slingshot mission? I can get through mission #1 no problem because all it requires is planning to get around airdropped enemies, but I just tried mission 2 and it was insane. How are you supposed to move through a crazy long map in 10 rounds with airdropping thinmen and mutons? Are all of the slingshot maps basically "try this 5 times until you memorize where every single airdrop comes down" because that's what it seems like for me. Full wipe my first time trying that map. I'll probably just avoid doing slingshot from here on out because it comes so early. It seems like you gotta have an absolutely perfect start to even have a chance of getting through it.
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