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I'm now imagining council requests involving you sending them some MEC or gene mod specimens for examination...
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In the sequel the player controls Resistance who are fighting against psychopatic XCOM supersoldiers.
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Aug 21, 2013 19:44
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Onmi posted:This is going to lead to an apocalypse style sequel where we have the bio-augmented humans descendants who have just been utterly hosed because WHAT DID YOU EXPECT WOULD HAPPEN WHEN YOU WENT loving AROUND WITH SOMEONES BIOLOGY?! And the augmented cyborg soldiers who are currently looking at being unable to find meaningful employment and a sudden lack of rights since hey, the line between human just got real loving blurred. That would be exquisite. The genetically modified soldiers could end up with horrifying physical manifestations of their PTSD.
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Aug 21, 2013 19:46
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Obviously there should be 3 paths. Mechs, Genes and 100%-Natural 
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Aug 21, 2013 19:47
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Chaos Xcom Mecha-Colonels, oh yeah. Meld for the Meld God.
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Aug 21, 2013 19:52
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Pimpmust posted:Obviously there should be 3 paths. Because the one thing that worries XCOM most is environmental damage. Welmu fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Aug 21, 2013 |
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Aug 21, 2013 19:52
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Pimpmust posted:Obviously there should be 3 paths. The 100% Natural path seems to be the Vigilo Confido path. Which also kinda means putting faith in the human potential instead of scientific witchcraft. Pretty poetic, actually.
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Aug 21, 2013 19:53
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gently caress poetry. Scientific witchcraft all the way. Who wants to be the first volunteer for the Anvil of the Void?
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Fangz posted:I'm now imagining council requests involving you sending them some MEC or gene mod specimens for examination... I like the idea of the council asking you for some of your precious troops that you went through all the effort of training and modifying. New weapons and new enemies to fight are neat, but I really would like an update to the macro strategy part of the game.
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Andre Banzai posted:The 100% Natural path seems to be the Vigilo Confido path. Which also kinda means putting faith in the human potential instead of scientific witchcraft. Pretty poetic, actually. On the other hand, maybe that's the point. To defeat the aliens, we must become like the aliens and embrace their technology. Psionics are only one step. The Firestorm is a homegrown UFO. And really, who doesn't use reverse-engineered plasma and alien alloy based weapons and armor when you get the chance?
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Cythereal posted:On the other hand, maybe that's the point. To defeat the aliens, we must become like the aliens and embrace their technology. Psionics are only one step. The Firestorm is a homegrown UFO. And really, who doesn't use reverse-engineered plasma and alien alloy based weapons and armor when you get the chance? When tanks first appeared on the battlefield in WWI, did everyone go "gently caress yon ironclad monstrosity" or "goddamn, I got to get me one of those"?
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Both, if I recall. Of course, the tank is a pure human creation. Here, we're messing with 'us', which we're still confused about and lack understanding of. Similar, yet different.
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Cythereal posted:On the other hand, maybe that's the point. To defeat the aliens, we must become like the aliens and embrace their technology. Psionics are only one step. The Firestorm is a homegrown UFO. And really, who doesn't use reverse-engineered plasma and alien alloy based weapons and armor when you get the chance? Yeah, but using alien technology (weapons and UFOs) is one thing. Applying their sinister methods for modifying humans is another. I remember how Shen and even Vahlen were shocked at the aliens' cruelty when encountering Floaters in the battlefield... and how I thought "wow, these floaters don't have legs, that's pretty sick". Now we're gonna mutilate our own soldiers. We're pretty much delivering a complete, twisted package to the Ethereals. The Crotch posted:gently caress poetry. Scientific witchcraft all the way. Who wants to be the first volunteer for the Anvil of the Void? Hahahaha of course, XCOM is becoming increasingly interesting. Part terror, part cheesy, part morally ambiguous. Very cool.
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Andre Banzai posted:Applying their sinister methods for modifying humans is another. What if the ethereals are just really crummy engineers and botched the poo poo our of the surgical operations because having a limitless supply of mentally enslaved troops does not lend itself toward all that much precision with the scalpel or if the parts fit just so. They failed with the ethereal device, XCOM made it work, so why can't Shen & Vahlen fistbump their way to making augments non-monstrous? These ethereal chumps are failed rejects, incapable of ascension. Have some faith in the humane ability of turning rockets into spaceships and plasma rifles into wicked lava lamps. Welmu fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Aug 21, 2013 |
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Aug 21, 2013 20:07
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Meld having a timer on it is probably my favourite single addition to the expansion. That alone shakes the game up enough to make it fresh. To me, everything else is just gravy but I already love EU a ton. I haven't stopped playing it since release. The only angle I can see having to worry about is if Meld or the balance in general is or isn't shaken up too. If this IS like a Civ expansion then the new poo poo will only be sidegrades - awesome alternatives. If it isn't worth taking up a risky play style on the tactical map I can see a lot of people having complaints about it: You could just stick to a Meld-less game and keep the plodding but sure style to win.
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Calling it now, any soldier that you use Gene Mods on will probably become dependent on monthly Meld infusions so that their body doesn't reject the new parts and explode into goo. Also Mechs probably inherit the SHIV's ability to never ever be able to use cover, as per normal protocol for VahlenTech Inc. Fake Edit: I wonder if we get any new personnel for the new stuff? Or maybe it's just that Vahlen leads the mutant division, and Shen heads the mech division.
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Hace posted:Calling it now, any soldier that you use Gene Mods on will probably become dependent on monthly Meld infusions so that their body doesn't reject the new parts and explode into goo. That could become pretty infuriating since you're then dependent on the game's RNG deciding to give you a bunch of abduction missions each month. And what if you've got full satellite coverage?
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I like how this kind of fits into the Engineer's constant harping on how all this new technology is going to irrevocably change humanity and maybe not for the better. XCOM's turning into some scary folks.
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Hace posted:Also Mechs probably inherit the SHIV's ability to never ever be able to use cover, as per normal protocol for VahlenTech Inc. I think the devs mentioned that MECs act as cover for soldiers, plus one of their perks reduces damage (to zero?) for one turn, so you use 'em to charge in like an angry assault vehicle with infantry in tow. It'd also be rather diffcult for an ~8 foot mech to grab cover behind a fire hydrant or park bench. Welmu fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Aug 21, 2013 |
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Pimpmust posted:Obviously there should be 3 paths. It would be interesting if they added some sort of epilogue based on A) how much MEC/Meld enhancements you used and B) How many nations were still supporting XCOM.
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Have they said which missions would provide Meld? Is it abduction-only? I mean currently some limited resources like Elerium and weapon fragments can be stockpiled eventually (specifically in the late game) if you continue to do random missions without progressing the plot. I hope Meld is like that so I can eventually create a team of maxed out mutant mech mercenaries with which to gently caress the final mission up with impunity. XCOM difficulty scale be damned, if I want to earn the ability through blood, sweat, and tears to steamroll any and all missions, let me! (I wonder if they're going to nerf Ghost armor at all)
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I got to the part of the video where the sectoid gets rocket-punched into the truck and decided that I can't wait for EW, even a preorder. I put $40 in an envelope and mailed it to Firaxis. Before I was optimistic but what I'm seeing is pretty great. Even the small changes to flanking and cover sound good.
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The Midniter posted:Have they said which missions would provide Meld? Is it abduction-only? I mean currently some limited resources like Elerium and weapon fragments can be stockpiled eventually (specifically in the late game) if you continue to do random missions without progressing the plot. I hope Meld is like that so I can eventually create a team of maxed out mutant mech mercenaries with which to gently caress the final mission up with impunity. They said every map has been redone to include meld. Doobie Keebler posted:I got to the part of the video where the sectoid gets rocket-punched into the truck and decided that I can't wait for EW, even a preorder. I put $40 in an envelope and mailed it to Firaxis. Before I was optimistic but what I'm seeing is pretty great. Even the small changes to flanking and cover sound good. That was the best part    euphronius fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Aug 21, 2013 |
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The Midniter posted:(I wonder if they're going to nerf Ghost armor at all) Think they're reducing the crit bonus to 30% for stealthed units.
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I don't remember, but does the AI get any stealth units? Talking about nichés for new aliens...
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I understand that with the excitement over the expansion this post may be lost in the flood, but I want to ask if anyone has installed the Developer Mode mod (http://xcom.nexusmods.com/mods/363/?). I'm having trouble making it run and the crowd over at Nexusmods doesn't reply at all, because apparently Skyrim mod load orders are fascinating. I just want to play (a completely broken version of) the game before the expansion comes!
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I imagine the team at Firaxis being just as giddy when they came up with this as we are right now. 
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Pimpmust posted:I don't remember, but does the AI get any stealth units? Talking about nichés for new aliens... They said there was a stealth grenade, so the technology could end up in enemy hands, especially if that enemy comes from "within"...
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Zaldron posted:Think they're reducing the crit bonus to 30% for stealthed units. Yup, but you can now manufacture invisibility paint grenades. Pimpmust posted:I don't remember, but does the AI get any stealth units? Talking about nichés for new aliens... Currently, no. Who knows what announcements are still to come... Christian Knudsen posted:I imagine the team at Firaxis being just as giddy when they came up with this as we are right now. This is probably an accurate depiction. Link goes to relevant timestamp, though the whole thing is a great watch, if only to hear Jake Solomon's strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnpIhPNFsmQ&t=858s "so it's like we're beating them to death with their own arms" Crossposted from a PYF thread: MEC testing in progress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3CzYw5-qdA&t=21s Welmu fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Aug 21, 2013 |
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Edgecase posted:They said there was a stealth grenade, so the technology could end up in enemy hands, especially if that enemy comes from "within"... Just sayin', there's an excellent ability out there for a "Heavy Chrysalid" (toss on the original's zombie abilities too) 
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Teleporting patrols relabled "Stealth deployment brigades"
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Now all it needs is a %chance of people not surviving the MELD/MEC surgeries. 
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Edgecase posted:They said there was a stealth grenade, so the technology could end up in enemy hands, especially if that enemy comes from "within"... I'm trying to come up with a strategy that turning your enemy invisible is a bonus to you. *scratches head*
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Burning_Monk posted:I'm trying to come up with a strategy that turning your enemy invisible is a bonus to you. *scratches head* That's why you use it on your own troops.
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gannyGrabber posted:Now all it needs is a %chance of people not surviving the MELD/MEC surgeries. I can't think of a better way to put those choices on par with Snap-Shot. 
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Burning_Monk posted:I'm trying to come up with a strategy that turning your enemy invisible is a bonus to you. *scratches head* "If I can't see them, they aren't there."
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Burning_Monk posted:I'm trying to come up with a strategy that turning your enemy invisible is a bonus to you. *scratches head* It's a bonus if you REALLY love surprises and feeling strong emotions.
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Burning_Monk posted:I'm trying to come up with a strategy that turning your enemy invisible is a bonus to you. *scratches head* If enemies can get it, they'll be using it on their troops. I'm looking forward to invisible chryssalids.
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nuzak posted:i suspect their intended translation is "the changing of the guard", which is a neat pun. I was thinking more like "Changing to protect" or something along those lines.
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