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Spiritus Nox posted:Go read about the sort of poo poo that happened to blacks who got lynched (hint: it often involved force feeding young black men their own severed and roasted testicles). Every time I think I've heard all the awful poo poo that went on in that period, someone finds something new for me...
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GenHavoc posted:Every time I think I've heard all the awful poo poo that went on in that period, someone finds something new for me... We had a brief look at the lynching movement in an American Cultures course I took recently. Not exactly the most lighthearted handful of classes I've attended.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 05:02 |
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citybeatnik posted:My West Texas, Church of Christ dirt farming grandparents said the exact same thing about my mother. My mom made a couple of comments the first time I dated a non-Jewish girl, but they stopped when I pointed to my goyim dad and asked if my grandparents said the same thing when she married him (they did, and she gave them an earful about it at the time). It led to some useful discussion about reflex reactions and first- and second-thoughts, so I don't hold it against her.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 06:00 |
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I think the term "glorified Theme Park Ride" perfectly describes the amount of 'depth' in gameplay and story this game have. It is too easy to see setpieces are really nothing more than facades (which you could hardly explore at all) and easy it is to see how you are railroaded and all the time.
Randomzx fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Sep 16, 2013 |
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This is really not the place for an in depth discussion of lynchings but if you really want to know more about the subject, I would recommend this book. As the name implies, it contains some pretty loving graphic pictures so fair warning. But it does a very good job at explaining why lynchings happened and their effects. It also contains a discussion of a very particular lynching - James Cameron's. Cameron was the only person known to have ever survived a lynching and his testimony is horrifying.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 06:47 |
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Randomzx posted:I think the term "glorified Theme Park Ride" perfectly describes the amount of 'depth' in gameplay and story this game have. It is too easy to see setpieces are really nothing more than facades (which you could hardly explore at all) and easy it is to see how you are railroaded and all the time. Bioshock has always been an examination of linearity and lack of player choice. It's one of the few game series that actually has things to say about playing games.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 06:54 |
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I'd ask how that applies to this game, as compared to the other two, but any answer to that is kind of inherently spoilery. PM it maybe?
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 07:17 |
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Yeah I wish we could talk about it, but it involves huge spoilers. Like everything else, the game's commentary on games will only be clear once all the pieces fall together.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 10:52 |
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Wherein we go find where Elizabeth ran off too and explore yet another heavily populated civilian district in Columbia. Sorry for the sort of rushed post, I'm dying to go to bed and sleep. The last week is really catching up on me and I'm about ready to clonk out. I'll update this post in the morning with some tidbits but nothing that will detract from the update itself in any way. Sundowner fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Oct 20, 2013 |
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Sundowner posted:
Get some sleep, but the video only seems to go up to 360p for me. VVVV - Excellent, thanks. Spiritus Nox fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Sep 16, 2013 |
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It's processing. It'll be 720p in probably 10-15 minutes, if that.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 21:10 |
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Now, in fact, in case anyone is waiting. Edit: That really is a beautiful transition. Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Sep 16, 2013 |
# ? Sep 16, 2013 21:19 |
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You could have warned us. Now I'll never get that horrible "readiness" song out of my head again.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 21:31 |
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You may favor the shotgun but it's the carbines you ignored (twice! ) that never left my side. Also, Booker sure does enjoy punching elevator buttons, even with his injured hand.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 21:45 |
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Don't think I didn't hear you almost say Butcher Bay. Got Riddick on the mind, eh?
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 21:50 |
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What difficulty are you playing on? I remember playing this on the PC and struggling with jerky controls, but you seems to be breezing through this. Did they release a patch or something, or am I just poo poo?
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 22:01 |
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So is there a history to goosestepping that got overshadowed by the nazis, or did they go just a little bit over the top with that animatronic Comstock Youth thing?
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 22:04 |
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It has been popular since the Prussians came up with it in the 18th century. Lots of countries stole it for their own military drills, because the Prussians had a reputation as that place where all the awesome soldiers come from. It lost a lot of its popularity after the early 20th century, but there are still places that use it for ceremonial purposes.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 22:10 |
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The quest arrow is fantastic. I'm poo poo at finding hidden loot in games because I usually end up stumbling down the way you're supposed to go to progress plot, so being able to know for sure which areas are side areas is a godsend. Also: CuwiKhons posted:You may favor the shotgun but it's the carbines you ignored (twice! ) that never left my side. So much this. Carbines wreck in this game.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 22:13 |
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The goose step was just a formal parade march prior to WW2 (it's too tiring to do for long periods, so useless for field manoeuvres). It just acquired some nasty connotations. It wouldn't attract much comment during the time period they're aiming for. Was that intentionally a goose step or just jerky mechanical movement? My only thought when I saw it for the first time was wondering how the little marionettes are powered. Both their feet lift off the rail, so I guess it must be another subtle little dash of high technology.
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When Elizabeth says "Train up a child in the way he should go, even when he is old he will not depart from it" she is quoting Proverbs 22:6. Perhaps she heard it in one of Comstocks' sermons? Interesting to note that when Booker asks her if she wrote it, she firmly says no without saying what the actual source is. I haven't played this game so I'm just speculating. I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure if someone stabs you through the hand it becomes physically impossible to do much of anything what with cut tendons and everything. Guess Booker isn't a sissy like the rest of us and sucks it up like a man.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 23:07 |
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Every time he punches an elevator button after having his hand stabbed I wince hard.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 23:31 |
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Ekster posted:I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure if someone stabs you through the hand it becomes physically impossible to do much of anything what with cut tendons and everything. Guess Booker isn't a sissy like the rest of us and sucks it up like a man. He probably got a probably impossibly lucky draw of the hand there (heh). The cut seemed to be right through the back and palm, between the metacarpals. It should have done a number on his index finger muscles, maybe some nerve damage, but, well, video game logic.
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Ekster posted:When Elizabeth says "Train up a child in the way he should go, even when he is old he will not depart from it" she is quoting Proverbs 22:6. Perhaps she heard it in one of Comstocks' sermons? Interesting to note that when Booker asks her if she wrote it, she firmly says no without saying what the actual source is. I haven't played this game so I'm just speculating. It also says something about Booker that he didn't recognize the quote; clearly he's not a god-fearing sort of person (not that that was really in question, but still that's a nice little exchange there).
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 23:39 |
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Dinictus posted:He probably got a probably impossibly lucky draw of the hand there (heh). The cut seemed to be right through the back and palm, between the metacarpals. It should have done a number on his index finger muscles, maybe some nerve damage, but, well, video game logic. Yeah, with a lot of luck, you may have no permanent damage. A mate of mine skewered his hand accidentally and just got off with two scars for it.
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# ? Sep 16, 2013 23:46 |
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Sundowner posted:
So what was the replica heater?
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:01 |
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cokerpilot posted:So what was the replica heater? Another weapon.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:06 |
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The hand is one of the standard "hero areas", like the shoulder or the side, where you can take what should be a grievous injury and look like that much more of a badass when you shake it off and keep going like nothing happened.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:19 |
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Ekster posted:I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure if someone stabs you through the hand it becomes physically impossible to do much of anything what with cut tendons and everything. Guess Booker isn't a sissy like the rest of us and sucks it up like a man.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:20 |
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AradoBalanga posted:Not to mention Booker also did the one thing you should never do when treating a stab wound: remove the bladed object yourself. What people forget about wounds like Booker's stab wound is that the knife acts as a plug for the blood flow, preventing you from bleeding out. However, Booker has removed the knife for what has to be roughly 10-15 minutes before Elizabeth manages to patch him up, all while doing stuff like holding and firing a gun, running at top speed and generally staying in motion. And then there's WHERE Booker gets stabbed to take into account, the middle of the hand. That's not only where important hand muscles are located, but veins for blood to the fingers. In short, Booker should have some amount of blood loss AND significant nerve/muscle damage from that wound and not just that small patch of blood on his palm we see, because there is no possible way for a stab like the one Booker got to miss EVERYTHING important in the hand. Well as a counter argument: video games
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:29 |
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Well, I hope I'm doing this right...
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:31 |
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AradoBalanga posted:Not to mention Booker also did the one thing you should never do when treating a stab wound: remove the bladed object yourself. What people forget about wounds like Booker's stab wound is that the knife acts as a plug for the blood flow, preventing you from bleeding out. However, Booker has removed the knife for what has to be roughly 10-15 minutes before Elizabeth manages to patch him up, all while doing stuff like holding and firing a gun, running at top speed and generally staying in motion. And then there's WHERE Booker gets stabbed to take into account, the middle of the hand. That's not only where important hand muscles are located, but veins for blood to the fingers. In short, Booker should have some amount of blood loss AND significant nerve/muscle damage from that wound and not just that small patch of blood on his palm we see, because there is no possible way for a stab like the one Booker got to miss EVERYTHING important in the hand. To be fair, Booker pretty much had to remove the knife - it was pinning his hand to the desk and he needed to be able to move.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:34 |
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I thought it was understood that this whole game after this point was just embellished fiction Booker scrawled on bedsheets while dying of septicemia in a filthy, forgotten Comstock holding cell. Of course the fatal detail of ignoring the wound while the rot set in was brushed over, such an ignoble death.
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AradoBalanga posted:Not to mention Booker also did the one thing you should never do when treating a stab wound: remove the bladed object yourself. While we're at it: you probably shouldn't eat stuff you find in trash cans. Or resort to kidnapping to settle a debt.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:38 |
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GenHavoc posted:I've asked this before, but what the hell does salt have to do with Vigors? I suppose that without knowing what Vigors actually are, it's hard to answer, but Plasmids from the old game ran on Eve, which was some kind of stem cell concoction? Do Vigors run on table salt?
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:40 |
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A few notes: Elizabeth isn't throwing a single coin, the animation is the same regardless of how much money she throws you. She actually gathers all the money in a certain area or object and gives it to you. There's no indication of how much a silver eagle is worth, since Columbia never uses US dollars. As far as robbing the stores goes, it just sets off an alarm and calls in some soldiers.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:49 |
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Out on the boardwalk, down by the sea~ Really enjoying this LP so far, and it's approaching my favourite area of the game as well.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:51 |
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CuwiKhons posted:To be fair, Booker pretty much had to remove the knife - it was pinning his hand to the desk and he needed to be able to move. That's not going to stop me from joining Shyrka in wincing at every time Booker slams his injured hand on a button, though.
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# ? Sep 17, 2013 00:52 |
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GenHavoc posted:[*]Everyone on the boardwalk is awful blase about Booker walking around with a drawn firearm. Incidentally, what happens if you try to steal from the cash register in the ice cream shop?
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GenHavoc posted:Well, I hope I'm doing this right... The cops show up, and everyone flips out and tries to kill you. That happens if you steal anything or attack anyone - Sundowner's the first I've seen not provoke a massive firefight the second Booker arrives. Though it's hilarious to hit the Duke and Dimwit costume guys with Murder of Crows mid-performance. Incidentally, am I the only one who feels sitting around and letting himself get stabbed in the hand is the choice that just plain makes no sense for Booker's character? If he's got anywhere near the experience we're told the trap should've been just as obvious to him as us, and it seems like he's just being an idiot for plot's sake - a murderous piece of poo poo that was happily involved in the Pinkertons and Wounded Knee doesn't seem like they'd hesitate to pull their gun there. Especially when you can hear the ticket guy talking to whoever their boss is about the fact you've stepped into the trap.
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