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Crudus posted:1. E 4C is make out with Naomi clandestine like. 4A is forget her?
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Hey guys, do we want to leave Zepath and be big strong explorer warriors? Right now the voting is kinda schizo (as always), we're going to end up in a 1:1:1:1 situation. This means that we are going to have a little bit of Zepath law, a little bit of reading/writing, a little bit of Ishamal's friends warrior training, and a lil bit of hanging with Ishamal. To get the full benefit of any one choice and be big and strong, one of these has to get about 75% of the total votes at minimum. I believe Dio stated that the decision we make now will affect us quite a lot. So if we focused on warrior training, we'd be big and buff to go with the 7'3 height. Right now is the best time to get big and buff, we're in our teens, getting swole is easy. If everyone is really happy with the split as it is, then okay. I just thought I'd point out that focusing on one thing gives the most results in that. Maybe we can have a major focus and a minor one.
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Sep 21, 2013 04:28
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1.  2.  3.  Hurray! We may finally learn to read! There are so many of these options I wanted to chose, but Literacy!4. 
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Sep 21, 2013 04:31
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Right now we are:
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Sep 21, 2013 04:36
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Hey guys, do we want to leave Zepath and be big strong explorer warriors? Right now the voting is kinda schizo (as always), we're going to end up in a 1:1:1:1 situation. This means that we are going to have a little bit of Zepath law, a little bit of reading/writing, a little bit of Ishamal's friends warrior training, and a lil bit of hanging with Ishamal. Right now warrior has almost twice as many votes as anything else. I think we'll be big and swole and maybe be able to do something other than punch things.
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Sep 21, 2013 04:36
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The top 3 are within 3 points of each other actually. My votes were input wrongly. I'm pretty sure unless there's a clear majority that Dio will take it as a 4 way split, even if getting swole gets a 10 point advantage.
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Sep 21, 2013 04:51
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:The top 3 are within 3 points of each other actually. My votes were input wrongly. Fixed and you are right. Cannuck had actually given you 5 points. Edit: no idea how Dio is going to interpret it.
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Sep 21, 2013 04:58
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1: D. We gotta represent. 2: A. Stick with the big man, we'll go far. 4: B. Lovelorn, loveworn, love lost.
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Sep 21, 2013 05:26
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1. B 2. B 3. F F F C 4. D, acknowledge your feelings with the understanding that it is not yet the time for you (or her) to act. Doesn't mean you can't get to know and respect each other.
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Sep 21, 2013 05:57
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:1. C Changing my vote to: [b]1. C 3. FFFF 4. A. Already changed my votes in the spreadsheet.
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Sep 21, 2013 06:13
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1 - A 2 - B 3 - G - 2, I - 2 4 - C "Hey Indor, what if these were snails from the sea- would they make any difference to your magic?" alpaca diseases fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 06:18
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 Spreadheet Updated. Check to see if your votes are right.  Also updated. Sogol fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 07:14
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1. E 2. B 3. F, F, F, F 4. B
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Sep 21, 2013 08:15
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1 depends on whatever girl is closest. Naomi likes no beard? Short? Then we do that. Rathal likes it big and bushy? Time to put the razor away. Homosexuality option: We copy Ishamal's style. 3. This is a tough one. We got cred with Paebel with the horns business, so I vote to consolidate. I therefore put two points into J. It allows us out of the city for practice adventuring, real world experience and time with Danal. We will never be king (until we discover that we too have the blood of Labaras, as I think we're getting hints about that), and the way I think kingship works here means Danal might not too. However, Tudiya will be king for a very long time, and has hinted at a larger role for us in governance. I bet he's the one who delayed Naomi's marriage. As a slave we cannot marry into the family, but we won't be a slave for much longer. On our day of manhood (circumcision time?), having sought pre-approval from Ishamal and Tudiya (where Ishamal will tell us it's a bad idea but Tudiya will grin and agree if we succeed), we announce our intention to seek out Endiku or what remains of him, and return in a year. Or something else, maybe whatever caused the minotaur attack is still out there, plotting our downfall! Surely an epic quest will elevate us to marriageable status! I therefore put two points in A. Diogenes, as a temple servant, can Paebel read and write? As for Naomi, I vote 4C. Based on personal experience, breaking off a relationship because our brain tells us to means jack poo poo and things are going to clandestinely continue anyway. Hell, I'm sure Tudiya is dropping hints about her. Maybe she can sneak along on the inevitable quest that's going to happen to us shortly. Or maybe she never forgives us for breaking it off and we start to notice Rathal's maturity ... Imperialist Dog fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 08:43
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Sogol posted:4C is make out with Naomi clandestine like. 4A is forget her? Ah yeah, I meant A. Changed my post to reflect that. Foggettabout her. Edit: Fixed it on spreadsheet too. Crudus fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 08:45
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I'm pretty sure Rathal is an old woman, yes? Tudiya has lived a very, very long time.
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Sep 21, 2013 08:55
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SerSpook posted:I'm pretty sure Rathal is an old woman, yes? Tudiya has lived a very, very long time. Perhaps them oldest woman in town. We need to build a boat. Maybe a big one. Sogol fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 09:02
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1: D Now that we know the whole story, we should try to emulate our namesake as best we can. Yes, he dies at the end, but so does everybody else. The man went from living with the animals to drat-near rushing the gates of Heaven, y'know? 2: C, C, C, E. Learning ro fight is important in this world, but we've got a whole culture of mooks that can fight. Any man can stab another man with a pointy thing, but reading and writing? To a tribal boy, that's MAGIC. A man of letters can write his story into the clay, and many-lots of years later, other wise men will still know of him even when his children's children are dust. We must learn to become immortal where our distant namesake failed! On the stabby end, I suggest we learn at the Temple of the Melachim, simply because they've got the best handle on asskicking around here. Learn the sling., or the bow, or the javelin - something that'll take advantage of our eyesight. Being seven feet tall helps a fair bit when throwing things at other things. 3: B. Let's wait until we're free and can afford the bride-price before we get Naomi's hopes up. It's obvious she likes us, but if we get caught, horrible things happen to both of us. Well..Horrible things happen to us, bad things happen to her, but let's avoid that path. Unrequited love is a better motivator anyway.
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Sep 21, 2013 09:15
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If you want to get respect and power in a culture of mooks that can fight, it's usually best to be swole. Being literate isn't going to have any immediate positive impact on us or our life right now. It didn't help us in that fight with Lullyby, we got our rear end handed to us. It's not going to help us win status and power in this city. Yes it's something we should pick up. But right now? Getting swole with Ishamal's friend is more important. Hanging out with the Melachim might turn out to be a bad idea. We don't really want to pick a side between the El / Melachim conflict. Bareen doesn't seem on the level. Might as well learn from the third party guy who loves having a party.
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Sep 21, 2013 09:38
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It'll be harder to learn a system of writing when we're an adult - granted, it'll be harder to put on muscle, too. 'Course, in this culture, we're an adult at sixteen. We are alo seven feet tall and eat like a horse without putting on any undue weight, so yay heroic metabolism! I'm still gunning for literacy, but I might just shift a point toward mighty thews. Bareen is a bit of a mystery. She's a badass amazon in a patriarchal culture. She seems to have the Blood of Labras, even though that usually only manifests in men. She holds heretical views openly, and the king does not punish her under the law, though he likely could. She doesn't seem all that concerned with the fact that an eight-foot tall murder-machine would like to personally tear her temple apart. We should, at some point, figure out why this is. But you do have a point - we don't know how much of Tudiya's mindreading Ishamal's citrus-wine potion blocks out, so maaaybe we shouldn't get involved with heresy until we're in a position where he doesn't hold the power of life and death over us. Changing my vote to C, C, F, F.
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1. How do you wear your beard? C. Long and bushy, but neat. 2. There are many things which interest you. Did you continue to devote a large portion of your time to following after Tudiyah, or did you spend less time with him, to do other things? B. I did not spend most of my time with Tudiyah, so vote on #3 instead. 3. I spent my time doing many things... I... A. * 1 I continued to spend time with Tudiyah F. * 3 I want to learn how to fight! But I do not want to train at the Temple of the Melachim. 4. With Naomi's betrothal broken... B. I had feelings, but I kept them to myself
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Sep 21, 2013 11:35
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UppaTree posted:It'll be harder to learn a system of writing when we're an adult - granted, it'll be harder to put on muscle, too. Aren't we already well past the window where learning language would be relatively easy?
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UppaTree posted:It'll be harder to learn a system of writing when we're an adult - granted, it'll be harder to put on muscle, too. My understanding is that the kings unfavourable views on the temple are his personal views, however it is not an abomination that must be destroyed. He believes in fairness and justice, hence he has not destroyed the temple because it is not illegal. Something like having the Society of Jesus around inside the Catholic church. Bareen seems off in that she holds everyone can learn magic. Yet why is it her adventurers are not taught this? She has her own angle and goals, but we can poke at that another time. I guess my point is that we should identify a common goal we want. Do we want to be swole and kill the fish? It seems like half of us want that atleast, but the other half is all over the place.
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Sep 21, 2013 12:32
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:My understanding is that the kings unfavourable views on the temple are his personal views, however it is not an abomination that must be destroyed. He believes in fairness and justice, hence he has not destroyed the temple because it is not illegal. Something like having the Society of Jesus around inside the Catholic church.
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Sep 21, 2013 12:40
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1. C 2. B 3. FFCJ
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Sep 21, 2013 12:48
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I'm pretty sure that no matter what we do, Danal is going to tag along. He looks up to is, and could use some variety in his training anyways.
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Sep 21, 2013 13:54
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1. B 2. B 3. A - 1, B - 1, F - 2 (I'm assuming that the entire list will end up in a weighted ranked order, so I want to make sure the 'danal' option isn't at the very bottom.) 4. A, There's lots of fish in the sea, or who knows, maybe we can do like Moments and end up 
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Sep 21, 2013 14:58
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:. I would rather we get really good at one thing than be crap at everything.
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Sep 21, 2013 15:38
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Imperialist Dog posted:Diogenes, as a temple servant, can Paebel read and write? He cannot, no. He was born free and is free but has been a temple servant as long as you have known him, after all, people gotta eat and his dad was a slave. It is not forbidden for a slave to read, some valuable slaves are literate. Keza is. Most of those who are literate are merchants. They primarily use writing for commerce, contracts in particular. A clay sphere is filled with tokens and figurines to represent the details of the agreement, the merchants imprint their rings on it and then bake it shut. To "break" a contract(*) if there is a dispute, they bring the contract ball to the local authority, Tudiya, who confirms their seals and then breaks open the sphere to see the details of the deal. You have seen this done many times in the Market. Writing is rarely wasted on history or art. Why bother? Writing in clay is time intensive. Not every man is a Tudiya, but enough men live long lives and remain mentally till the end that oral transmission of stories seem to suit them just fine. Not every centenarien is still fertile or buff, but old, relatively healthy men of that age live in the city. Beyond writing on a few monuments, it is strictly something for commerce. There is no such thing as history books or books of poetry, in fact, no books of any sort, at least as far as you are aware. (*)Fun Historical Fact! Diogines did not make that part up. The term "breaking a contract" dates all the way back to the first cities of Mesopotamia and that is roughly how they did it! Diogines fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 16:20
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Rats. I was worried there might not be any books. So we can get all literate and nothing to read that will teach us anything as far as we know? Edit:We also don't really know if the writing resembles the spoken word, since currently we can mostly just scratch our name. And we have no idea about the strange language spoken by Ishamal and Tudiya in battle since we never asked. It's not *destiny!*. It's curiosity. Spreadsheet is up to date I think. Sogol fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 16:33
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As best you know, before the two years transpired, yes. People have this ridiculous notion that you are anything other than a savage that got rescued by civilized people. Writing and math will serve you well in a life of commerce, or even filling in for Tudiyah or an adult Danal, which are the greatest feats you should reasonably expect to achieve in your life. Being a valued aid to a king is quite an honor! Edit: I don't anticipate updating for at least another 4-5 hours, possibly longer, big time leap, so I want to give everyone time to vote. Diogines fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 16:40
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:I would rather we get really good at one thing than be crap at everything. In the current voting pool I think this means hitting around 98 votes in one category.
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Sep 21, 2013 16:45
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Diogines posted:Edit: I don't anticipate updating for at least another 4-5 hours, possibly longer, big time leap, so I want to give everyone time to vote. Oh hell, just got back to the internet. 1: F: Per RandomPauI, Multiple braids. Pirates, yar! 2: B. 3: G,2, C,1, D,1. I dunno, hanging out with Ishamael seems likely to have involved at least some physical training as well, even if we just pick it up via osmosis. 4: C. Not much thought put into these, to be honest, not a lot of time. Reluctant about leaving out time with Tudiya, and physical training, and Danal to some extent, but them's the breaks.
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Sep 21, 2013 17:52
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We're at something like:
yes I know they don't quite add up to 100%. Mistakes were made. The authorities have been alerted. Includes Basscops vote now. Sogol fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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Sep 21, 2013 18:54
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Throwing 3 for F and one for C to get better focus. We don't need math and writing for much but its useful. Being buff is top priority.
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POSTED BETWEEN UPDATESDiogines posted:Paebel cannot read, no. He was born free and is free but has been a temple servant as long as you have known him, after all, people gotta eat and his dad was a slave. Two years have passed. You ceased training in the Temple of the Melachim and took Ishamal up on his offer to find a teacher in the ways of combat. Ishamal has quite a few friends, not all of them part of his regular drinking crew, but men who might train you how to fight. Among them, a grizzled retired merchant named Agamemnon, a man in his early sixties with one eye, a large black bushy beard and a barrel chest. A wealthy and successful merchant, he apparently, also owed Ishamal a favor or two. As best as you can tell, the man is not Blooded of Labaras, he looks his age and is about 7 feet tall, but does not seem to be supernaturally strong, though he is very, very well muscled. He very probably could not rip a minotaurs leg off and beat it to death with it, but he could very probably beat you easily enough. The first time you went to the man's richly decorated home, he brought you into a courtyard at the rear of his house and said to you. "Well, I promised that old goat I would show you the right end of a blade, you should of been at this for at least a few years, but we will make up for lost time..." There is a table in the courtyard covered in weapons, he motions to it then lifts a weapon one at a time, showing you each of them. "The iron shod staff, not unlike what you've been training with, but it can do a whole lot of more hurt, but the base is wood and wood can break, good for parrying blades though."  "The long spear. The weapon most men in our fair city train in. Long, pointy and great for large battles of men, not a whole lot of use on your own. If I had my pick, i'd say this one, but Ishamal said to let you have your pick."  "The medium spear. Good reach, can be thrown if your big enough and I think you may be boy. Keeps the beasties at an okay distance but miss your hit overextend and that'll be it for you. The weapon favored by Labaras."  "The sword. Unless Ishamal plans on getting you one, I don't even know how you plan to afford one. A sword is, a sword. A weapon for brave, the skilled and for fools. A quick weapon, but you have to get real close to use one."  "The greatsword. You aren't Barkof kid. I'm not going to waste my time showing you how to use this thing. The only living man I know who even uses one is Barkof." Agamemnon does not even have such a weapon present, he merely mentions it. "The club. The weapon of your buddy Enkidu. Takes a big guy to use one right, hit and do a whole lot of hurt, miss and thats it for you. Slow and powerful. Easy to learn. Overextend and you are done for but a good hit will crush whatever its hitting flat.  "The axe. Not unlike a club, but a little quicker and easier to recover from a miss."  "The maul. Trickier to learn than a club, but it can do even more hurt. All of the weight is in the end, land a hit and whatever you hit, its gonna die. Miss and the end goes flying and you die."  "The short spear. Those fools who go hunting for Bareen favor them. Short, quick, can be tossed if the need is dire but you gotta get real close."  "Javelins. I knew a few who used these like a short spear, crazy bastard. Not a bad weapon, wind up and throw. Hope that you don't miss and that you killed your target. Useless in a stand up fight."  "The sling. Shepards like them. Tough to aim right but they can get some real distance on them with good aim. I doubt you have the eyes for them. Again, useless in a stand up fight."  "Some of these are a bit more of a... specialty weapon, if you pick one I don't know well enough, i'll pass you off to one that does, make your pick boy." 5. You look over the weapons and you pick... You spend the next two years training to use this weapon. According to Agamemnon, you are already behind in learning to use a weapon if you really wanted to be good at it. This is also a point system. You get 4 points. If you want to get good at one weapon, you should probably spend them all on one, but you can split the points however you like. A. Iron shod staff B. Long spear C. Medium spear D. Sword E. You insist you want to learn to use a greatsword, so you go ask Barkof to train you. F. Club. G. Axe. H. Maul. I. Short Spear J. Javelins K. Sling L. Another weapon which feasibly existed in ancient Mesopotamia which you know about. Diogines will give input if you have questions about a weapon, or tell you if it is too ridiculous. M. He did not show you a bow, but he has a friend who could train you. You pick a bow. Agamemnon told you that training to use a bow takes a great deal of practice. If you have questions about a weapon, their uses or about fighting, just ask Agamemnon. Don't worry about any single weapon needing a super majority of votes or you will spend your time on multiple weapons and be terrible. Spend the points on the weapon YOU think is best. Depending on the outcome and the difference, either, the weapon with the most points will get all of the effort, or you might also spend some time on a second one. You will not spend your effort on three weapons, unless people make clear that they really want to do that. If you want to, feel free to join us on irc #madgod on synirc.net. The channel tends to always have some people in it and is especially active when updates go up. If you do not know what IRC is, here is a web based chat version which will not require you to register or download anything: http://chat.mibbit.com/ VOTING FOR QUESTIONS 1, 3 AND 4 FROM THE PREVIOUS VOTE REMAIN OPEN, WITH A FEW CONDITIONS: 1. You can change your votes if you like, but please do so in a new vote and say that you are changing the vote, for the sake of our dedicated team of vote counters, this makes it much easier for them. If you did NOT change your votes on these you do NOT have to put your up on them again. 2. You cannot remove any vote you cast for E or F, which were E-Train to fight at the Temple of the Melachim and F. which won a lions share of the votes. 3. You can add new votes for F if you want to, but you cannot cast new votes for E. QUESTION 1 - BEARD VOTE posted:Your patchy beard has filled in and if you left it, you would have a large, bushy beard which would make any Zepathan man proud. QUESTION 3 - TIME VOTE posted:We are working on a point system for this one. Everyone gets four points. Gaining the full benefit of any one of these things, will take all or almost all of your points. QUESTION 4 - NAOMI VOTE posted:4. With Naomi's betrothal broken... 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So, I want to tell the merchant that Ishamal said I have good eyes, better than most. When the minotaurs attacked the city two years before I could make out details of the banners from the King's home. But I'm thinking medium spear or the club personally. But he might make a strong recommendation for the sling if he knows of our eyesight.
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4 points in C , we need a weapon that is versatile so we can both go on adventures of our own and fight in battles and the medium spear looks like the most versatile weapon of them all.
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1. C 2. 2A, 1B and 1D 3. B 4. 4F
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