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Timeless Appeal posted:Eat poo poo and live. Pamela Springsteen is amazing. Two and three are totally worth watching. Let the record show that Sleepaway Camp 2 is totally bitchin'.
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Timeless Appeal posted:It's paired with implied incestual sexual experimentation that just felt a bit weird to me. Your mileage may very. I think that's one of the better moments in the film: it's presented as this primal scene, I don't get the impression that it's implied that homosexual love screwed the kids up, I think the implication is that witnessing lovemaking in the home when they're not supposed to (the lovers are oblivious) spurs them to experiment (initiated by the boy). They're not depicted as deeply traumatized by finding out that their dad had a male lover, like kids do sometimes, they find it funny. They're laughing at it because they don't understand fully what it is they're seeing, I don't think it would've played different if it was the father philandering with a woman. Also, that's part of the reason why that ending works so well, all of those bizarre flashback/dream sequences are quite unlike the rest of the film, in this kind of unreal space with a panning camera. The final shot replicates that staging and that shot when all of the characters are finally part of Angela's nightmare.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Eat poo poo and live. Pamela Springsteen is amazing. Two and three are totally worth watching. Amen.
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Sleepaway Camp is a real hoot and a holler, someone must've switched the wardrobe for the boys and girls.
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Timeless Appeal posted:I never really found the ending scary or shocking in the way its intended. It's shocking for the sheer audacity and absurdness of it all. And yeah, I did read some transphobia] into it. It tied into the weird depiction of character of color, the gross depiction of homosexuality, and the general grossness of the film. I think Sleepaway Camp actually imbues quite a bit of sympathy for the Angela character, freaky final shot notwithstanding. She's about the only character who isn't a complete rear end in a top hat (aside from being the killer, of course) and her alienation in the camp is basically the central point of the movie. The camp is basically a hyper, grotesque caricature of the whole straight sexual culture, especially at adolescence: I think anyone who's not straight can sort of remember that period of youth when you started noticing all your friends suddenly playing this kind of 'game' that seemed to cause all the boys to become competitive and aggressive and for all the girls to be catty and stuck up...and you might have even felt them start eyeing you with suspicion or distancing themselves from you if they picked up that you weren't playing that same game yourself. Hell, I think most any social outcast could probably identify with the movie, if you were bad at playing the game you didn't have a good time, either (wasn't there a nerdy kid that got picked on in that movie, too?). The whole camp depiction was the uncomfortable (and dare I say 'scary') part of watching Sleepaway Camp for me rather than the murders (which weren't actually filmed with much suspense or scariness).
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Here are my thoughts on Curse of Chucky. Keep in mind that I'm a retardedly huge fan of Child's Play and it's sequels. 1) Five minute long chili eating scene. Multiple closeups of chili entering the mouth 2) Lesbian make-out session out of nowhere 3) Fifteen or so zoomed in shots of a laptop enter key 4) Andy Barclay with a shotgun! 5) Chucky has godlike strength when pushing a wheelchair Better than Child's Play 3 and I won't even mention Seed, but nowhere near as good as 1, 2, or Bride.
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Hopefully what I'm going to describe won't be too vague... Earlier in the thread there was discussion of a movie made in the... maybe 70s or 80s that featured possession as a key plot point and was discussed as having handled it better than The Exorcist. I'm trying to find it on Youtube, anyone remember the title of what I'm talking about? EDIT: Nevermind, found it! The Changeling. Getting excited. 
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lizardman posted:I think Sleepaway Camp actually imbues quite a bit of sympathy for the Angela character, freaky final shot notwithstanding. She's about the only character who isn't a complete rear end in a top hat (aside from being the killer, of course) and her alienation in the camp is basically the central point of the movie. It really is a movie about sleepaway camp with some murders thrown in.
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lizardman posted:I think Sleepaway Camp actually imbues quite a bit of sympathy for the Angela character, freaky final shot notwithstanding.
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Just watched Sleepaway Camp because of the thread (didn't read the spoilers), and the combined tension of waiting for the ending and the tension of the ending itself was just too much to bear. I was too amped to re-watch the scene until I calmed down a little. Thoughts on why it works: I's the "off"-ness of so many factors - from what I can tell it's a somewhat-tanner male wearing a mask of a lighter-skinned female (in a pretty hosed up facial position as is). Just wearing a reasonably-accurate but not quite perfect mask of another person is hosed-up uncanny valley poo poo to start with, but with all of the other disturbing elements, the musical lead-up, the blood, the head, the nudity, it's just too much. But I'm surprised people wearing masks of other peoples' faces isn't a horror sub-movement given how confusing and disturbing it is for us as humans to process.
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TUS posted:Return to Sleepaway Camp is where awful poo poo hits a terrible fan. One of the worst films ever made.
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Kewpuh posted:Here are my thoughts on Curse of Chucky. Keep in mind that I'm a retardedly huge fan of Child's Play and it's sequels. 6) Brad Dourif's daughter somehow defies her genetics and is insanely hot. I hated it. The post credits scene was the best part of the whole film.
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Let the record show that Sleepaway Camp 2 is totally bitchin'. I kinda forgot about this thread for a couple weeks and then one of the first posts I see when I come back is someone telling people NOT to watch Sleepaway Camp 2. Everyone watch Sleepaway Camp 2.
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Kevar posted:I kinda forgot about this thread for a couple weeks and then one of the first posts I see when I come back is someone telling people NOT to watch Sleepaway Camp 2. Everyone watch Sleepaway Camp 2. Yeah all these not liking Sleepaway Camp 2 and Apollo 18 motherfuckers got me shaking my head. In case anyone reading this has good taste and hasn't seen them, those movies own.
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weekly font posted:One of the worst films ever made. Which made it awesome though. All of the senseless killing in Sleepaway Camp 2 and 3 is pretty loving awesome. Yeah there's that bullshit motive for the whole thing, but come on now.
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Cinemassacre did a promo video for their annual Monster Madness series of daily horror reviews throughout October. I know James is a bit of a man-child, but I really do like these videos a lot. They fill the void that AMC's Monsterfest left in my heart, and he is pretty knowledgeable, often offering films and trivia that I didn't know about.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Cinemassacre did a promo video for their annual Monster Madness series of daily horror reviews throughout October. I know James is a bit of a man-child, but I really do like these videos a lot. They fill the void that AMC's Monsterfest left in my heart, and he is pretty knowledgeable, often offering films and trivia that I didn't know about. He's a lot more tolerable when he's talking about movies, though that may just be because he's not doing the Angry Nerd schtick.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I love Monster Madness. I just imdb'd the film, and Dracula is actually played by a Canadian.
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I'm watching Suspiria right now. The first ten minutes are pretty loving wild. Does the movie keep up like this? I mostly made this post just to say how wild the first ten minutes are.
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Cole posted:I'm watching Suspiria right now. The first ten minutes are pretty loving wild. Does the movie keep up like this? I mostly made this post just to say how wild the first ten minutes are. Yes.
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Cole posted:I'm watching Suspiria right now. The first ten minutes are pretty loving wild. Does the movie keep up like this? I mostly made this post just to say how wild the first ten minutes are. Keep watching. The tonal texture of Suspiria is it's strongest ingredient.
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I've somehow never seen Suspiria despite enjoying the soundtrack. I'm going to start off the whole "Watch a horror movie every day in October" thing by watching it, so I'm pretty stoked.
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Cole posted:I'm watching Suspiria right now. The first ten minutes are pretty loving wild. Does the movie keep up like this? I mostly made this post just to say how wild the first ten minutes are. Yeah, hard as it is to believe, the entire movie is like that.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Yeah, hard as it is to believe, the entire movie is like that. Or, as the tagline put it, "The only thing more terrifying than the last 12 minutes of this movie are the first 92!" (note: there is no secret 104 minute cut of Suspiria)
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My favorite scare in the movie is the eyes in the dark followed by the hairy arm coming through the window. No explanation is necessary for it, it's just the stuff bad dreams are made of.
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Yeah those eyes in the dark are a serious "oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiit" moment. My favorite scare in any Argento movie might be the doll in Deep Red, which is similarly inexplicable.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What is the funkiest Argento movie theme? Is it Deep Red? Unquestionably. I am so pumped to see Goblin perform it live next month.
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Unquestionably. I am beyond jealous of you. Speaking of giallo and music, I remember someone posted this a while back and listen to it pretty often. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0G8rzMlVhY
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What is the funkiest Argento movie theme? Is it Deep Red? Tenebrae
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Parachute posted:I am beyond jealous of you. Speaking of giallo and music, I remember someone posted this a while back and listen to it pretty often. That may or may not have been me, but yeah, that soundtrack is extremely bitchin'. It's also on Spotify. "Teenagers Cha Cha" is a great track.
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Kewpuh posted:Here are my thoughts on Curse of Chucky. Keep in mind that I'm a retardedly huge fan of Child's Play and it's sequels. Yeah, that's pretty much how I felt about it. It didn't match up to the first (none of them did, though), but I still kind of liked it. It had a weird feel though, almost like they took the production values, writing and directing of the campier spin-offs (Bride and Anyway, it had an appropriately downer ending, and it was a nice cap-off to the series. Assuming it ends there of course, but I can't really see where else they would go except (MAJOR ENDING SPOILER, SERIOUSLY) making some kind of "The Bad Seed" knock-off with Chucky-Alice.
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ultraviolence123 posted:Tenebrae But does Tenebrae open with an extended 70s jam band sequence like Four Flies on Grey Velvet? I don't think so, mister.
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I've never seen any Argento movies before, just started watching Susipiria. Wow. The cinematography is stunning, the colors, holy poo poo. I don't care what happens, I just want to keep watching. It's like eye porn, ive never seen a horror movie I'd call gorgeous before. Maybe The Shining, but that had more of a cold beauty to it. And the soundtrack...I thought Carpenter had the best soundtracks but this is just something else. This picture just has such grandeur. What do I watch next?
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Of those that I've seen, I'd recommend Unaware, The Wicksboro Incident and Hollow. Sorry for the late response but thank you so much for these recommendations. I just burned through both The Wicksboro Incident and Unaware and loved their dedication to the genre. Wicksboro is impressive for its creation of an incredibly paranoid, frantic atmosphere with little/no budget or special flares and Unaware is awesome for all the reasons you stated.
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rxcowboy posted:I've never seen any Argento movies before, just started watching Susipiria. Argento is so inconsistent. Suspiria is one of the best horror films I've ever seen, but the sequels are next to unwatchable; it's like someone clumsily trying to recreate what made Suspiria work but with no grasp of lighting, color, suspense, or pacing. Phenomena is really good, though, so maybe continue with that. Just don't give up on it; it's a much more carefully plotted movie than it at first seems, and comes through literally in the last minute. edit: spelling Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Argento is so inconsistent. Suspiria is one of the best horror films I've ever seen, but the sequels are next to unwatchable; it's like someone clumsily trying to recreate what made Suspiria work but with no grasp of lighting, color, suspense, or pacing. I quite like Inferno but Mother of Tears is just an embarassment.
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