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Fluffdaddy
Jan 3, 2009

You don't have to spoil in the manga thread.

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Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God
They seemed to change a whole lot for that episode. I don't think it was bad episode really, but it wasn't as good as I was hoping for either. It definitely seems like they wanted to minimize the cliffhanger ending aspect.

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


I think they could have lingered on the wall titan for a bit at the end there, but the rest of it was really well done. I was worried that they had messed up Armin's character arc for the show, but his conversation with Jean made it better and emphasized their different views on how far they're willing to go. Even the little conversation that Eren had with Mikasa was pretty good.

For the wall titan, Jean and Armin are actually walking along looking at the wall at the end there (I honestly thought that that's where the wall reveal would happen) and I guess it's plausible that they spot it then, the Survey Corps then covers it up, and Hanji interrogates Pastor Nick. It's not like the wall titan was always visible and no one noticed, the piece of the wall didn't break away until nearly sunset.

I think it was a pretty decent season overall. And the shot of the other trainees riding along makes me excited for the Castle Utgart arc. :)

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

They should have just gone with a proper cliffhanger, it's not like anyone would be going 'Oh, well, that's that story over then' anyway.

Azzents
Oct 19, 2010

"Quoting, like smoking, is a dirty habit to which I am devoted."

Sakurazuka posted:

They should have just gone with a proper cliffhanger, it's not like anyone would be going 'Oh, well, that's that story over then' anyway.

They should have shown the wall titan. I mean it would be foolish to not have a second season considering Snk is currently the biggest thing in Japan and the west.

EDIT: I'm a dumb idiot who doesn't watch after credit scenes.

Bisensual
May 24, 2013

Do you hate me?
I quite liked the bit after the end credits. The episode itself, while pretty mediocre, kept me wondering what was going to happen next despite knowing what was going to happen next. So. Props for that.

Edit: The manga-readers reactions to the wall titan are really surprising. In this thread and the anime thread. Think about it from the perspective of someone who has only seen the anime and that reveal is actually pretty good. It leaves them thinking "what the gently caress was that?" That's really what the animators will want right now. You know. People who want to see another season.

Bisensual fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Sep 28, 2013

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"
It's such a brief flash, and the angle doesn't really make it clear that there's a titan in the wall as opposed to "oh poo poo the wall is crumbling and there's a titan right on the other side." Then again, I recall there was initially some confusion about that when the original chapter came out too, so maybe it just can't be helped.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Just started watching the adaptation for the first and GOD drat is the background art gorgeous.

e: like, hell YES I'll take a full 30 minutes of german architecture porn bathed in late afternoon color filters :gizz:

Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Sep 28, 2013

Mio Bison
Dec 14, 2005

violence is who I am, loser

AnonSpore posted:

It's such a brief flash, and the angle doesn't really make it clear that there's a titan in the wall as opposed to "oh poo poo the wall is crumbling and there's a titan right on the other side." Then again, I recall there was initially some confusion about that when the original chapter came out too, so maybe it just can't be helped.

Putting aside the manga perspective being unambiguous unless you think the wall is one and a half feet thick the chapter's closing text next to the titan in the wall is something like "There's a titan in the wall?!" so anyone confused was really beyond help.

Bisensual
May 24, 2013

Do you hate me?

Fister Roboto posted:

Just started watching the adaptation for the first and GOD drat is the background art gorgeous.

I'm glad somebody else appreciates this show from an artist's perspective. The 3DMG animations are wonderful as well.

It's like porn for animators.

Culinary Bears
Feb 1, 2007

yellowyams posted:

This is the only one I found, seems fine enough. Isayama has said that the premise behind titans is completely different now so I wouldn't use it for speculation or anything.

Huh. I always wondered why Eren's titan form didn't look anything like him while the others had some resemblance (well... I geuss Bert is a stretch.) It looks like the protagonist here instead.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Bisensual posted:

I'm glad somebody else appreciates this show from an artist's perspective. The 3DMG animations are wonderful as well.

It's like porn for animators.

Actually, I haven't watched an anime since Gurren Lagann. Is this par for course these days, or is AOT visually outstanding?

FeedingHam2Cats
Nov 10, 2009

Alas, the writers failed to build the tension and excitement in this episode and assumed Being Awesome The Whole Time would substitute for emotional engagement. and also the way they handled the wall titan reveal was real bad but that was them trying to have their cake and finish the series while also eating it by setting up a cliffhanger

and it fails, naturally

FeedingHam2Cats
Nov 10, 2009

Fister Roboto posted:

Actually, I haven't watched an anime since Gurren Lagann. Is this par for course these days, or is AOT visually outstanding?

It's Excellent, though I'd download the Blu Ray editions

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

yellowyams posted:

This is the only one I found, seems fine enough. Isayama has said that the premise behind titans is completely different now so I wouldn't use it for speculation or anything.

VVVV oh whoops, forgot that even existed.

Is this uploaded anywhere? I don't want to download it.

RubberLuffy
Mar 31, 2011

Fister Roboto posted:

Actually, I haven't watched an anime since Gurren Lagann. Is this par for course these days, or is AOT visually outstanding?

AoT is so wildly inconsistent, but there were clearly a lot of production issues going on. You might get 1 episode that looks amazing then 3 that are good to bad. Or some that are just aired unfinished. Bluray releases so far have fixed a lot of the problems.

FeedingHam2Cats
Nov 10, 2009

The second half of the series is generally much, much better at animation

i300
Dec 30, 2012

There's something wrong with a 14-year old girl talking about all this sperm...
That was pretty drat disappointing. I thought that they would just end the whole thing on the wall titan and everyone would flip their poo poo, but most of my friends who watch the show didn't even see the after-credits scene. That just sucks.

e: Lol, people in the anime thread getting mad about them not revealing whats in the basement.

i300 fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Sep 29, 2013

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
Annie. Annie is in the basement.

Am I forgetting things or was the miner story in the break text new?

Bisensual
May 24, 2013

Do you hate me?
I think it was new! But wasn't it interesting?

Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011

yellowyams posted:

This is the only one I found, seems fine enough. Isayama has said that the premise behind titans is completely different now so I wouldn't use it for speculation or anything.

VVVV oh whoops, forgot that even existed.

Man, this is just further proof that the artist basically taught himself to draw and that he's come a long way since he started this series.

It's still a really bad pitch though, holy poo poo. Guy couldn't even draw faces on the characters right. Can't wait to see how he'll be drawing by the last chapter.

redneck sushi
Aug 5, 2013

Bisensual posted:

Thanks both of you. I know it's not canon. I just like Levi.

edit: THEN WHERE'S THE ONE LEVI!?

In case anyone is interested:

http://whiteflowertranslations.tumblr.com/read/snk-a-choice-with-no-regrets-prologue

Bisensual
May 24, 2013

Do you hate me?
I love you.

Edit: VVV I've always seen it as Jaeger except for on the SNK wiki.

Bisensual fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Sep 29, 2013

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

I think it's interesting that the sub uses the Americanized spelling of Jaeger. But Chuck Yeager is a personal hero, so I'm not complaining.

e: why did I say dub I meant sub

Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Sep 29, 2013

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

Fister Roboto posted:

I think it's interesting that the dub uses the Americanized spelling of Jaeger. But Chuck Yeager is a personal hero, so I'm not complaining.

I thought the official English translation of the manga also used those? Yaeger instead of Jaeger, Hoover instead of Huber, etc.

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

✋😢Life's just better with Ominous Gloves🤗🧤
Alright manga thread! I barreled through the entire manga last week, and this poo poo is bananas in the absolute best possible way. That Colossal Reveal had me shouting "Wait, what? Oh my god" at 3 in the morning. I've gone through most of this thread since then. ...it was a little weird to see myself quoted a few times.

I stand by my assumption that Colossal and Female are related somehow - probably not siblings, but cousins at least.

Watching the anime finale today, in conjunction with the recent manga first-transformation speculation that you gotta eat a dude to become sentient again, I'm thinking that Annie's first transformation involved her eating her mother, or someone who was very close to her. Her dad talked about making the whole world hate her - and matricidal mutants are pretty easily hated.

Even if the whole mandatory-cannibalism thing isn't true, it's possible that it's something the Titan hierarchy tells its recruits. Much like the mafia forcing new recruits to commit initiation crimes, it's an irrevocable act that would drive a wedge between them and humanity. How could you go back to your old life, once you've eaten someone, and people know you've done it?


I'm just being polite in case a casual anime viewer takes an ill-advised quick scan of the most recent posts.
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Squidster fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Sep 29, 2013

Bisensual
May 24, 2013

Do you hate me?

Fluffdaddy posted:

You don't have to spoil in the manga thread.

This is going to have to be said a lot, isn't it? All these... animes people. Coming into this thread.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
If only we could build some kind of...obstacles...to keep them out. Three of them, maybe...

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Sindai posted:

If only we could build some kind of...obstacles...to keep them out. Three of them, maybe...

If the walls for keeping away Titans are themselves made of Titans, then what must walls for keeping away anime viewers be made of?

Daler Mehndi
Apr 10, 2005

Tunak Tunak Tun!

JosephWongKS posted:

If the walls for keeping away Titans are themselves made of Titans, then what must walls for keeping away anime viewers be made of?
Spoilers.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

So that stuff about there being walls underground was anime only?

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Kild posted:

So that stuff about there being walls underground was anime only?

The more important question is: what happened to the miner? Did the wall cult disappear him for heresy? Does the government know about the walls and covered it up? Do the wall titans move about when disturbed?

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

✋😢Life's just better with Ominous Gloves🤗🧤
I assume that the Wall Cult guys found the miner and shut him up, but Hanji did talk about tunneling titans. Maybe the earth underground is swarming with them, torpid and confused, always trying to find their way back up in sunlight. We've seen one in a castle basement already.

GROVER CURES HOUSE
Aug 26, 2007

Go on...

Squidster posted:

Watching the anime finale today, in conjunction with the recent manga first-transformation speculation that [spoiler]you gotta eat a dude to become sentient again, I'm thinking that Annie's first transformation involved her eating her mother, or someone who was very close to her. Her dad talked about making the whole world hate her - and matricidal mutants are pretty easily hated.

So, uh, where did the first sentient human-titan come from? And how does Monkey Trouble figure into all this?

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

✋😢Life's just better with Ominous Gloves🤗🧤

GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:

So, uh, where did the first sentient human-titan come from? And how does Monkey Trouble figure into all this?
:science: Hey, Shelley-chan, check out these sweet catdrugs I just invented! I'mma inject myself with it and see and/or live forever!
:ohdear: Bb-b-but the FDA, Frank-sama!
:science: :argh: :cannibalism: :argh:
:science: Shelley-chan, what have I done! Here, let's jam your brain into the head of this monkey I found, and inject it with titanjuice.
:wookie: Hateful day when I received life! Accursed creator! Why did you form a monster so hideous that even you turned from me in disgust? God, in pity, made man beautiful and alluring, after his own image; but my form is a filthy type of yours, more horrid even from the very resemblance. Satan had his companions, fellow-devils, to admire and encourage him; but I am solitary and abhorred.

GimmickMan
Dec 27, 2011

Picked up the manga from chapter 32 after the show ended because what the gently caress was that and am caught up now after a few hours. Now I wish they had given the adaptation another episode just to properly troll the poo poo out of the audience with a better cliffhanger. Holy poo poo I thought I had the plot of this more or less figured out (in kinda broad strokes, I admit) but Kongman changed everything.

This has come a long way from the simple premise of 'there are big dudes who eat people and we keep them at bay behind huge walls'.

CaptCommy
Aug 13, 2012

The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a goat.
So I'm not a manga reader, trying to decide if I really should switch over or not. What was so wrong with how the anime ended though? I've been poking around and I'm not really seeing what was conveyed differently in the manga, except the quick coverup part that I assume will happen scene 1 in season 2. Is this just people hating quick stingers?

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

Count me as another person who picked up the manga immediately after the anime ended. After marathoning it, because I have nothing better to do on a Saturday night, I only have one thing to say: Goddamn.

CaptCommy posted:

So I'm not a manga reader, trying to decide if I really should switch over or not. What was so wrong with how the anime ended though? I've been poking around and I'm not really seeing what was conveyed differently in the manga, except the quick coverup part that I assume will happen scene 1 in season 2. Is this just people hating quick stingers?

It was much too quick, and the angle made the fact that it was inside the wall unclear. When I saw it I thought it was implying that the wall was about to crumble.

Saagonsa fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Nov 15, 2013

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

✋😢Life's just better with Ominous Gloves🤗🧤

CaptCommy posted:

So I'm not a manga reader, trying to decide if I really should switch over or not. What was so wrong with how the anime ended though? I've been poking around and I'm not really seeing what was conveyed differently in the manga, except the quick coverup part that I assume will happen scene 1 in season 2. Is this just people hating quick stingers?
In the manga, this was Eren's moment of redemption - he was completely in control of the Titan, fought better than he ever did before, and threw Mikasa at fleeing Annie in a fastball-special that would leave Wolverine blushing in envy. The anime played up the uncontrollable beast anger aspect, and introduced some weird fusing nonsense stolen from Evangelion.

The Titan-wall reveal got more time and focus in the manga, as its a key element to where the plot is going. It was handled with a little more care than a quick half-second glimpse of a titan who could be in the wall, or peering through the wall. Without going into details, it wasn't just Scary Thing, it was a Scary Thing that a number of the characters are aware of, discuss, and are terrified by.

Also, this is a dangerous thread full of holy poo poo spoiler minefields, man.

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i300
Dec 30, 2012

There's something wrong with a 14-year old girl talking about all this sperm...

CaptCommy posted:

So I'm not a manga reader, trying to decide if I really should switch over or not. What was so wrong with how the anime ended though? I've been poking around and I'm not really seeing what was conveyed differently in the manga, except the quick coverup part that I assume will happen scene 1 in season 2. Is this just people hating quick stingers?

Unless you want to be spoiled on everything, you should get out of this thread.

Anyways, the conclusion that was added in, Hanji doesn't get the scene where she goes insane was weird. When Eren comes out of titan-form and is talking to Mikasa instead of Armin. What? Why change that. And then they just ignore the wall titan and push him off into a post-credits scene. It just didn't feel right and was the most un-true to the manga I've seen the series be as of yet.

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