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Wait, that was a dude on the bed? I thought it was a girl.
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Sep 28, 2013 18:25
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Stallion Cabana posted:Wait, that was a dude on the bed? It was a girl.
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Sep 28, 2013 18:38
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Yeah, the manual builds up a bit of a mystery saying "no one has ever actually seen Captain Syrup" but she's definitely a woman.
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Sep 28, 2013 18:47
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Nintendo were being ambiguous like they were with Samus originally, Syrup is also one of the very few female villains in Nintendo games too, the only other ones I van think of are Nayru and Twinrova from the Zelda series and Cackletta and Wendy O Koopa from the Mario series. EDIT: I guess Dark Samus is also female too, since the Metroid Prime stole some of Samus's DNA at the end of MP 1 and became genetically female from then on, but that's serious  territory.
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Sep 29, 2013 12:32
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Captain Syrup actually is Dark Samus. When her plans to Phazon the whole galaxy failed, she instead turned to piracy; stealing statues and downloading episodes of Breaking Bad.
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Sep 29, 2013 16:01
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Carbon dioxide posted:Now that makes me wonder how Wario 'practices being mean'. practice as in application, not rehearsal. In Wario's case, this probably includes bumping people over and throwing those people at other people. And stealing their money.
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Sep 29, 2013 16:50
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Judge Tesla posted:Nintendo were being ambiguous like they were with Samus originally, Syrup is also one of the very few female villains in Nintendo games too, the only other ones I van think of are Nayru and Twinrova from the Zelda series and Cackletta and Wendy O Koopa from the Mario series. Would the parasite Samus from Fusion count as female? In fact, Mother Brain and Queen Metroid should count too. Metroid has a lot of female end-bosses now that I think of it.
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Sep 30, 2013 03:33
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Holidae posted:Captain Syrup actually is Dark Samus. When her plans to Phazon the whole galaxy failed, she instead turned to piracy; stealing statues and downloading episodes of Breaking Bad. Surprisingly, Wario Land reuses some sound effects from Metroid II on the Gameboy.
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Sep 30, 2013 04:32
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Triskelli posted:Surprisingly, Wario Land reuses some sound effects from Metroid II on the Gameboy. Metroid Fusion runs a modified Wario Land 4 engine. http://tcrf.net/Metroid_Fusion#Debug_Rooms Wario is Adam's estranged cousin. Edit: There's also this:  Click for source. So now the question is, is FutureFriend gonna include all the Metroid games as well? Geemer fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Sep 30, 2013 |
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Sep 30, 2013 05:07
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Bully: Scholarship edition uses the Gamebryo engine as does Oblivion and Fallout 3. With your logic, that means that all those titles are connected. I really wouldn't count debug content in games as proof they're in the same universe. The Arwing in Ocarina of Time was put there to have the movements of Volvagia done properly, but they just didn't remove the Arwing from the game. I wouldn't say that Starfox and Legend of Zelda share the same universe.
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Sep 30, 2013 07:20
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IAmTheRad posted:Bully: Scholarship edition uses the Gamebryo engine as does Oblivion and Fallout 3. With your logic, that means that all those titles are connected. I believe he was performing what is known as a joke, or a comedy.
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Sep 30, 2013 07:38
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Geemer posted:Metroid Fusion runs a modified Wario Land 4 engine. http://tcrf.net/Metroid_Fusion#Debug_Rooms On a serious note, that only implies that they borrowed assets from another game in development, not necessarily that they're on the same engine.
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Sep 30, 2013 09:37
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Cheez posted:On a serious note, that only implies that they borrowed assets from another game in development, not necessarily that they're on the same engine. While that's true, you'd think it'd be much easier to just make some generic blocks than to import the graphics for them from another game. I'm pretty willing to believe they started out with the Wario Land 4 engine and heavily modified it. After all, Ocarina of Time uses a heavily edited Mario 64 engine. So heavily that you could say it's a whole new engine, but it still has its roots.
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Sep 30, 2013 13:10
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Geemer posted:So now the question is, is FutureFriend gonna include all the Metroid games as well? I'm already preparing my half-assed arguments on why Other M is a satire on contemporary shooters. In some other news, I recently found out in Wario Land while browsing The Cutting Room Floor there are some files for a different Big Bird fight:  Might have been that you had to fight Big Bird in Parsley Woods instead of SS Teacup or that he was supposed to be a refight? Either way, I bet it would've been a better fight than that loving ghost. FutureFriend fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Sep 30, 2013 |
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Sep 30, 2013 13:19
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Syrup Castle in the background is a nice touch. I wonder how another fight against that bird would go.
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Sep 30, 2013 20:49
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 Releasing a short update since everyone finally found the time to get together. Thanks to Killeremcee and a_raving_loon for joining me.
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Oct 7, 2013 21:18
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Even though it probably wasn't a question which you actually cared about the answer to, my instincts led me to find out just how many coins the whale bags you: 7,000. What a rip-off! As for the Mario & Wario game, I could swear that the bucket actually had a trophy in Super Smash Bros. Melee or Brawl (I can't quite remember which, but I'm pretty sure it was Melee). They named the fairy in the trophy description.
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Oct 7, 2013 23:45
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The trophy is from Melee, and the fairy's name is Wanda. http://www.mariowiki.com/Bucket
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Oct 8, 2013 00:00
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OmegaGoo posted:The trophy is from Melee, and the fairy's name is Wanda. Oh my god, that link. I'm surprised the bucket doesn't have an extrapolated personality on there or something.
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Oct 8, 2013 01:17
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quote:The Bucket is a major item in the game Mario & Wario. It is one of many objects dropped by Wario on top of the head of either Princess Peach, Mario, or Yoshi in order to obstruct their vision. As such, Wanda the fairy has to guide the blind heroes to the end of the game's various stage. The Bucket features Mario's "M" insignia when up-right, although when turned upside-down, the "M" becomes Wario's "W," symbolizing Wario's power over the character. The Bucket is only used in the first stage, Yōsei no Mori - other stages besides EXTRA have different head objects, which are usually references to other games in the series. You're holding out on us, FutureFriend.
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Oct 8, 2013 01:53
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Toffile posted:You're holding out on us, FutureFriend.  Here's what all the buckets look like, jeez.
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Oct 8, 2013 02:12
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In addition to being a trophy in Smash Bros. Melee, the bucket was also a treasure in The Great Cave Offensive in Kirby Super Star (which also has cameo treasures from F-Zero, Metroid, Earthbound, and other Nintendo series).
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Oct 8, 2013 09:17
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FutureFriend posted:
Saying "there's nothing else to the game" is selling it extremely short. More elements are added to the game and there are different puzzles, so that's an awfully harsh statement for what it is.
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Oct 8, 2013 11:31
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FutureFriend posted:
One of those buckets is Wario's explorer hat from Wario Land. There's our connection. My mind is now at ease.
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Oct 8, 2013 12:24
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Cheez posted:Saying "there's nothing else to the game" is selling it extremely short. More elements are added to the game and there are different puzzles, so that's an awfully harsh statement for what it is. Yeah sorry, I worded it a bit wrong there. I was going more along the lines of that that's how the game plays and showing more of it might be a bit boring.
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Oct 8, 2013 14:06
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Oh, then that makes a lot more sense, although every now and then there's something neat that comes along. It'd probably take something like a highlight reel to show it all off since there's some pretty devious stuff in there sometimes. Not a big deal though, I get what you mean now.
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Oct 8, 2013 19:29
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Do you get like passwords or is there a level save or something for the game? I can't imagine you're intended to play it all the way through.
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Oct 12, 2013 03:23
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Glazius posted:Do you get like passwords or is there a level save or something for the game? I can't imagine you're intended to play it all the way through. At the beginning you can actually select which world you want to go into. I assume it just saves what world's you've completed, since there's a world that's unlocked after you've beat all the others but I've never finished the game in multiple sessions. Anyway  Update Time One thing I forgot to talk about in the video is Wario Woods' NES version, which was actually the last Licensed NES game. It's mostly the same as the SNES version, just with somewhat worse graphics and the Vs. Com and Vs. 2P modes missing. It's also the only NES game to be rated by the ESRB. Feel free to tell me how wrong I am about this game by the way, because honestly besides the basics it just confuses and frightens me. Just one more bonus game and then we're off to Virtual Boy Wario Land.
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Oct 12, 2013 23:07
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You didn't even get to the part where they can only be killed by diagonals, you need to the them twice in a row quickly, or they change colors after the first hit and you have to hit them again. Its a fun game once you understand it but it gets very overwhelming quick also you can pick things up while running up stacks helps to organize the taller stacks that get out of control.
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Oct 13, 2013 00:18
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FutureFriend posted:One thing I forgot to talk about in the video is Wario Woods' NES version, which was actually the last Licensed NES game. It's mostly the same as the SNES version, just with somewhat worse graphics and the Vs. Com and Vs. 2P modes missing. It's also the only NES game to be rated by the ESRB. I know this because I own Wario's Woods on the NES.
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Oct 13, 2013 00:22
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Just to comment on the voice clip chat, the first Star Ocean on SNES had quite a lot of voice clips and it was such a retardedly huge game that the machine couldn't actually run the game properly. It is very prone to crashing, freezing and many other clitches that range from mildly annoying to game stopping. Which is sad since the game is otherwise fairly good JRPG. At least that was my experience with it while playing it on Zsnes. I don't know if accurate emulators such as bsnes would fare better.
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Oct 13, 2013 00:49
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Wario's Woods actually has a pretty thorough tutorial mode that tells you everything you need to know about gameplay. It seems random if you don't know what's going on but it's really not. For example, if you still got greem bombs even though you cleared out all the green enemies, it's because there are still green bombs or a green gem there somewhere. The green bombs are there to clear everything that's green, not just the enemies. New players should go through the tutorials anyway because despite looking like a basic puzzle game, the controls are pretty in-depth and there's a lot you can do in the game. Wario's Woods is no Tetris Attack but it's still one of the better puzzle games for the SNES and I recommend checking it out. As far as voice acting on SNES goes, don't forget "The last metroid is in captivity. The galaxy is at peace."
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Oct 13, 2013 01:11
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Wario in this game looks like they got his character model from a counterfeit, non-Nintendo licensed t-shirt.
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Oct 13, 2013 01:46
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Tales of Phantasia has a theme song, with full vocals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxjqaThnYHk There's also Hong Kong '97, which has a much shorter theme song (only a few seconds) that's repeated ad nauseum, but it IS vocalised, so it still counts.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oka1XfJuSc8
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Oct 13, 2013 02:23
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Sunset Riders was an arcade game first, but it's the first thing I think of when you mention voice in a snes game. Plus, I'm pretty sure Wario would appreciate https://burymewithmymoney.com.
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Oct 13, 2013 02:49
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Fun fact about that Mario and Wario game. Every Pokemon game has the main character having a Nintendo console hooked up to a TV in his/her room. In the original, it was an NES, and it described what was on screen as "Mario with a bucket on his head!" For all these years I had no goddamn idea what that was about. I played that game, I played Melee, never had any idea. Now I know. Also, that game was RIDICULOUS. I've played Flash games that were longer and had more complex puzzles.
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Oct 13, 2013 09:32
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I like how psyched Wario is to be there in Wario's Woods, as though he's been waiting for this moment all day. He almost seems to be going "Oh boy oh boy oh boy! Now it's Wario's time to shine!" And then he looks all awkward when he finally has to shift his fat rear end off-screen.
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Oct 14, 2013 20:22
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It's so weird, I've heard the fact about Wario's Woods being the last licensed NES game before, but I also remember at the time that Gamepro reported that The Jungle Book was the final game made for the NES. 
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Oct 14, 2013 21:56
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It's always good to see yet another franchise take a page from Tetris in its series. At least Wario Woods wasn't as bad as Kirby Avalanche, and didn't QUITE go full on Tetris rip off. Virtual Boy Wario Land...my eyes are hurting already just thinking about it. 
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InterrupterJones posted:It's always good to see yet another franchise take a page from Tetris in its series. At least Wario Woods wasn't as bad as Kirby Avalanche, and didn't QUITE go full on Tetris rip off. VBWL is literally the only good VB game. Its much more of a straight sequel to WL1 than WL2. (Which isn't to disparage WL2, its pretty refreshing that the game is based around Wario saying "gently caress death. I'm Wario. I'm immortal.") OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Oct 14, 2013 |
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Oct 14, 2013 22:52
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