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I find it funny how the goony nerd town is just one letter away from being named Aspie.
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There's sleeping on a bookshelf, and then there's thinking people will pay money for the privilege of sleeping on a bookshelf.
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Sep 25, 2013 06:07
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Wonderchef was waiting for so long because he was disguised as a vegetable in Gooncave. So naturally he was avoided like the plague in lieu of pizza and Cheetos.  And yeah, I have no idea why Yuri was so adverse to starting trouble with those knights. There were only two of them, alone in a cave, with no witnesses or backup. He could have knocked em' out, grabbed Mordio, and been out in five minutes.
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Sep 25, 2013 09:07
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Sydin posted:Wonderchef was waiting for so long because he was disguised as a vegetable in Gooncave. So naturally he was avoided like the plague in lieu of pizza and Cheetos.
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Sep 27, 2013 09:37
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So having now played to about the halfway point of this game it's impressive how much of an improvement it is over Symphonia. The characters are all fairly intelligent, there's no one apologizing all the time, Yuri is way more versatile than Lloyd combat wise and more interesting as well, there's really only one character I would call outright terrible in combat and the story is actually kinda interesting. It's by no means perfect, but it's a huge improvement all around. It's amazing that the same company made both games.
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Sep 28, 2013 01:27
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I don't think any of the characters are really outright terrible in combat, though there are definitely at least two that are basically useless (or at the very least will mess up your combos instead of actually helping) if you don't have a human controlling them.
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Sep 28, 2013 01:33
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I don't think any of the characters are terrible in combat, but it really is based on combat preference and what you're used to. A lot of times, people will be more comfortable using the main character because they are the most balanced. What I like about Vesperia is that every character has some weakness. Yuri is pitiful against a group of enemies, so you would want to keep him in more one-on-one situations. Repede is almost useless against flying enemies, and so on. I've actually found every character useful in combat, but I wouldn't want to use them all regularly (Karol or Estelle).
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Sep 28, 2013 15:26
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LeafyOrb posted:So having now played to about the halfway point of this game it's impressive how much of an improvement it is over Symphonia. The characters are all fairly intelligent, there's no one apologizing all the time Hurm. The team behind this one wasn't responsible for Tales of Graces right? Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Sep 28, 2013 |
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Sep 28, 2013 15:32
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I think the same team makes all the 3D entries.
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Sep 28, 2013 15:37
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MrLonghair posted:Hurm. The team behind this one wasn't responsible for Tales of Graces right? No. Vesperia was Team Symphonia, Graces was Team Destiny.
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Sep 28, 2013 15:44
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Hikarusa posted:No. Vesperia was Team Symphonia, Graces was Team Destiny. They did however work together to make Xillia.
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Sep 29, 2013 05:19
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Oct 1, 2013 15:51
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 ...just going to leave this comment on JRPG rail-roading here.
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Oct 1, 2013 17:28
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Just rename Yuri Troy Baker and be done with it.
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Oct 1, 2013 17:51
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If Minifoo ever tires of playing Doug he can always pick up Rita for some ridiculous over limit screen clearing.
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Oct 1, 2013 17:51
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Dastardly posted:If Minifoo ever tires of playing Doug he can always pick up Rita for some ridiculous over limit screen clearing. Oh god, I hope we see THAT trick at some point.
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Oct 1, 2013 18:20
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Oct 1, 2013 18:44
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Yes! One of my favorite characters finally made her debut, the Lord of Nerd lords.  Looking forward to seeing Rita used in battle a bit more.In regards to the renaming, I second the motion to call Yuri, Troy Baker-chan. As for the others how about Repede as Doog, Estelle as Maybelline, and Karol as The Incredible Gifman?
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Oct 1, 2013 19:40
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I don't think there's a lot of room to write the names (6 letters? Or was it 8?) and you can't edit the surnames, either, so Troy Baker-chan wouldn't fly... Can anyone confirm the letter limit?
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Oct 1, 2013 19:53
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Obviously you could rename Karol to Lloyd. Maybe Repede could be Tupac. Also I'm pretty sure the reason you couldn't cast any spells with Estelle was because she was out of tp.
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Oct 1, 2013 19:56
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Fingers of Fury posted:Also I'm pretty sure the reason you couldn't cast any spells with Estelle was because she was out of tp. I noticed this when editing the videos. I wish the game would give you some sort of cue that this was the case instead of just doing nothing.
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Oct 1, 2013 20:12
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Fingers of Fury posted:Also I'm pretty sure the reason you couldn't cast any spells with Estelle was because she was out of tp. Kuvo posted:I noticed this when editing the videos. I wish the game would give you some sort of cue that this was the case instead of just doing nothing. This is a huge balancing problem with Tales games in general. In the early game, you run out of TP super fast and super easy. In addition, the UI doesn't help you at all in informing you what is making your arte usages or commands fail, which just increases the previous issue since people new to the game/series need that help the most. Strangely enough, Symphonia was the only game that actually did something about informing you why you couldn't use Artes, all other games just silently fail. I have no idea why they dropped that. The CC based Tales games fare far better, because you're only dealing with small auto-regenerating numbers anyway, though you could probably improve that there too.
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Oct 1, 2013 20:18
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Minor warning for the next few episodes: my internet was total poo poo this session for some reason, so I was like 10 seconds behind when I could see the stream at all, so my navigating is not so top notch!
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Oct 1, 2013 20:18
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:This is a huge balancing problem with Tales games in general. In the early game, you run out of TP super fast and super easy. In addition, the UI doesn't help you at all in informing you what is making your arte usages or commands fail, which just increases the previous issue since people new to the game/series need that help the most. Really? I'd say that the midgame is where you run out of TP the easiest, early on you have your 1-2-3-Arte combo that barely takes any TP at all since you regain some with every hit. In the midgame you start linking artes together to make longer combos which drains TP much faster. Lategame you have rings to lower TP consumption so it's not much of a problem then. Also I don't think ignoring the HP/TP bars is the game's fault.
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Oct 1, 2013 20:43
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Derpes posted:Also I don't think ignoring the HP/TP bars is the game's fault. It's not, but they could have the character say "I'm out of TP" or make a 'error' sound or have an animation of them shrugging or something. I thought the bindings I set didn't save because there was no feedback. From a UI standpoint its bad design.
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Oct 1, 2013 20:53
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Clearly Repede needs to be called Juiceman so Alex can have some influence on this Tales LP.
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Yeah, Rita is pretty much never going to leave your party for the rest of the game. She's just too good not to use. It gets even stupider when she hits her highest tier spells, which don't even have a "range" but just hit every enemy on screen because why not? Also some stellar AI showing from Estelle, there. Out of TP and can't cast? I guess I'll just stand here looking stupid!  The healing AI in Abyss can be a little dodgy at times, but at least the healers know to run up and start contributing in melee when they're out of TP.
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Oct 1, 2013 21:29
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I think the latest game has the characters say a quip when they run out of TP, but nothing after that. now I imagine trying to use an attack and have them say "It's no good, I CAN'T DO IT" like solid snake when you try to shoot a missile at metal gear when it has Grey Fox pinned to the wall
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Oct 1, 2013 21:30
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Vicas posted:Minor warning for the next few episodes: my internet was total poo poo this session for some reason, so I was like 10 seconds behind when I could see the stream at all, so my navigating is not so top notch! That's when you tag me in, man, because I am a master of vague JRPG navigation. Especially in this game. Just not real life navigation. If I don't have GPS I kind of freak out.
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Oct 1, 2013 21:35
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This game does actually yell at you by having one character yell at another about how they are using too many artes when TP is low, but it's sort of inconsistent about it. Edit: Rita's quote is that she needs healing when her TP is low though 
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Oct 1, 2013 21:37
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Lovely Rita, magic maid.
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I like Rita as a character and love her as a battler. Ever since I tried unknown mode in Abyss, I've valued the mage characters highly. One of the problems I've had with her (and this is probably true for all characters, at least when I've played) is that I have a hard time getting a chance to cast because the enemies decide to come at me when I control her. Some of the costumes you can get for her later are cool.
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Oct 2, 2013 04:35
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The only reason Rita doesn't have 100% usage rate in my game is because the game counts the battles before she joins the party. She rules.
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Rita is my favorite, I mained her through the game. She's just completely hilariously broken. Especially once you find out that most artes get more powerful the more you use them, so even a lot of her wimpy early game spells are useful later in the game if you consistently use them. I mean, at least until you reach that stage where there's no reason to do anything other than hit overlimit and spam top tier spells forever (which refills your overlimit while it does damage, leading to a loop of constant damage  ). You can alcharagia posted:The only reason Rita doesn't have 100% usage rate in my game is because the game counts the battles before she joins the party. She rules. That and the fact that for some secret missions using her ranges from suicidal to literally impossible. I still pretty much use her at every other point though. Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Oct 2, 2013 |
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Oct 2, 2013 04:44
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Yuri should be Joel-senpai
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I felt bad for not using Rita more often in my playthrough because she was really good. I just have a bad habit in Tales games of ignoring the mage and using two attackers, a healer, and a utility character. I blame Symphonia and Legendia for having garbage mages. If we're renaming characters then I request Yuri be Goku.
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Oct 2, 2013 04:56
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WhiffleballDude posted:I blame Symphonia and Legendia for having garbage mages. But Genis had the best fanfictions and wasn't garbage late game.
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Oct 2, 2013 05:13
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My main problem with Genius... well, my main gameplay problem with Genius was that he was always locked out of half his spells because of that stupid T-S system. Granted a majority of his S spells were garbage, but others like Grave or Atlas were a big shame to miss out on.
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It's been a long time since I've completed Symphonia, but couldn't you switch over to S and get them, or did Atlas have a pre-req to get it?
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