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TheRationalRedditor posted:It looks very good in games at 1080p be they on PC or console. The only console game I've had that doesn't look totally rad up close is GTA5, and that's because it maxes at 720p due to the limitations of the ancient hardware. Hardly any console games go beyond 720p. In fact many are sub-720p. GTAV, being at the end of a generation, ought to look a lot better than earlier console games. Seeing console games close up just reinforces the fact that PC gaming is the true master race.
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This Dell U2713HM absolutely blows my mind  I'm already getting annoyed with my side monitors being 24" / 1920x1200, and it's been less than two days, heh.
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Oct 11, 2013 19:44
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Magic Underwear posted:Hardly any console games go beyond 720p. In fact many are sub-720p. GTAV, being at the end of a generation, ought to look a lot better than earlier console games. Seeing console games close up just reinforces the fact that PC gaming is the true master race. The thing about GTAV, not that I've played it, is that it crams a lot more detail and scale in than GTAIV, on the same engine and hardware. Something has to give. The frame rate in IV on 360 already was fairly poor, so I imagine GTAV is bleeding every last bit from that box. I know GTAIV on 360 vs PC was absolutely no contest, the console version being horribly blurry, low res textures, low frame rate, etc. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Oct 11, 2013 20:27
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It doesn't look bad in general considering it's pushed those boxes to their absolute limit, but it's easy to discern where all the texture corners are cut when you got the 2x magnification.Magic Underwear posted:Hardly any console games go beyond 720p. In fact many are sub-720p. GTAV, being at the end of a generation, ought to look a lot better than earlier console games. Seeing console games close up just reinforces the fact that PC gaming is the true master race.
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Oct 11, 2013 21:06
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TheRationalRedditor posted:It doesn't look bad in general considering it's pushed those boxes to their absolute limit, but it's easy to discern where all the texture corners are cut when you got the 2x magnification. It's probably because 3D games can't have that great of anti aliasing or it'll slow that poo poo way down, like GTA5's biggest problem graphically is that there is aliasing everywhere. 2D graphics can get away with it and look decent. And all games on consoles are just rendered at 720p and upscaled, there's like one or two that aren't but pretend they don't exist.
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Oct 11, 2013 21:16
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fookolt posted:Well, with a 3007WFP-HC, there's no scaler so it's pretty drat responsive so all I do to avoid the GPU money pit is play everything windowed at like 1920x1200 (and it also means a far more manageable visual field for FPS games) I'm uncomfortable purchasing an almost 7 year old monitor model at this point. It's true that the 3007 has reportedly very low input lag, but I'd still like a new monitor. Thanks for the input, though! Also, I hear you about 1600P fullscreen being almost "too much" for FPS. Whenever I take a multiple day break from BF3/BF4 it takes me awhile to adjust to all the screen space. I think 30" is great for productivity and RTS games, but it's a bit too much for a hardcore FPSer. Gwaihir posted:Dell's own 24" monitors (2412 and 2413 in game mode) have extremely low input lag. The 3014 itself has a game mode that cuts out all the image processors for extremely fast response. I just upgraded from the 3008 to the 3014, and the improvement in power use/heat output and far, far better AG coating on the screen was worth it. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u3014.htm Wow, that review really does paint the 3014 as a large step up from the 3008. I'm finding I'm noticing more of the flaws of the monitor after I read that review (like sub-par black levels in low-light conditions). Sadly, it's way out of my budget range, and doesn't really solve my other issue of having to feed the GPU's lots of money to play at 1600p with all the effects cranked. A 1080p monitor is going to let me do that without throwing cash in to the money pit. The 24" monitors (and the U2312HM) look interesting, but doesn't the "game" mode have detrimental effects to the image quality in order to achieve that ridiculously fast response time? That's what was attracting me to the Eizo FS-2333 - all reviews indicate it's the fastest IPS panel on the market and the color reproduction is accurate enough for graphics work. It's about $100 more than the U2312HM, though. gently caress, buying a new monitor is more difficult than building a complete system. I don't even KNOW if the input lag in the 3008WFP is something I'm noticing - I'll need to try out a different monitor and make that judgment call.
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Oct 11, 2013 22:02
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HalloKitty posted:The thing about GTAV, not that I've played it, is that it crams a lot more detail and scale in than GTAIV, on the same engine and hardware. Something has to give. The frame rate in IV on 360 already was fairly poor, so I imagine GTAV is bleeding every last bit from that box. I have GTA5, but never played 4. I'm absolutely amazed at what they pushed the 360 to do. Sure, some of the textures are blurry and low-rez (typically ground textures) but the cars, lighting effects, water...wow.
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Oct 11, 2013 22:13
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Anti-Hero posted:I'm uncomfortable purchasing an almost 7 year old monitor model at this point. It's true that the 3007 has reportedly very low input lag, but I'd still like a new monitor. Thanks for the input, though! Sorry, I should have been more clear...How about trying the 1080/1200p windowed trick with the 3008 you already have and see how that goes?
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Oct 11, 2013 22:56
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How did I misread that?  I'll give it a shot tonight!
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Anti-Hero posted:How did I misread that? No worries! You may find that just adjusting the screen space to a smaller size might be enough and then you don't have to buy another thingy!
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Oct 11, 2013 23:25
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Lexicon posted:I just ordered a second Dell U2312HM for my development workstation. You can calibrate. You can approximate by eyeballing, get some help eyeballing with basic calibration software (like the Windows-included color calibrator), or you can get a hardware calibrator and use it to calibrate both screens.
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ok I must be retarded or something. Got my new monitor, Philips 27" LED 272C4QPJKAB/00 I cannot loving assemble the stand. In the manual it's just "put them together and screw the bolt" Alright so I did that and:  It's just tilting like that. It obviously can't even support the screen's weight when it's tilted like that. Backside doesn't offer much help. There's nothing to adjust  what the gently caress? edit: I suspect the two "round" parts on the back should be the adjustments but they ain't moving. I don't want to brute force it, I apply strenght and the monitor starts to creak. Don't want to break a brand new 500$ monitor 
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Oct 12, 2013 13:34
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Today I learned something that should have been common knowledge. I was getting kinda worried when my GTX 680 was idling at 60c, (140f) My CPU was idling at 35 and my 4 temp probes around the case where at around 25c so I know it wasn't ambient related. I brought a can of compressed air and dusted the inside of everything, I even updated to the latest Beta drivers and nothing helped. ...Turns out going from 2 monitors to 3 monitors causes GTX cards to be unable to enter the idle state. The gently caress, Nvidia, why would it even do that? Luckily NvidiaInspector fixed the issue. Down to 39c idle from 60c. (39c while sandwiched in SLI)  Skilleddk posted:edit: I suspect the two "round" parts on the back should be the adjustments but they ain't moving. I don't want to brute force it, I apply strenght and the monitor starts to creak. Don't want to break a brand new 500$ monitor Maybe a little oil to loosen it up a bit on the part that pivots. Ak Gara fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Oct 12, 2013 |
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Oct 12, 2013 16:51
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Having Chrome running does the same thing.
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Oct 12, 2013 17:04
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Are all the screens the same resolution and refresh rate?
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Oct 12, 2013 18:44
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ok , a little brute force seems to have fixed it But now when I plug the HDMI cable from the graphics card into my TV both my computer screens go blank. How should I configure this? Sometimes I like to steam to my TV and play games with a controller
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Oct 12, 2013 19:30
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Newegg has a pretty nice-looking deal on the ASUS VN248H, $60/80 off if you believe in rebates. I'm seriously considering pulling the trigger on it, if only to escape the 1280x1024 former-spare I'm using right now. The reviews all sound alright, any good have hands-on experience with this thing?
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Oct 13, 2013 06:45
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What's up with these Korean monitors going from $370 to $820? Is this a different version from the ones people have been getting? e: Oh no, yeah, there are ones up for ~$300. Can anyone who has one and has successfully overclocked it let me know which model you got? The variety on offer is pretty bewildering. Jack the Lad fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Oct 13, 2013 |
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Oct 13, 2013 11:21
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Jack the Lad posted:What's up with these Korean monitors going from $370 to $820? Is this a different version from the ones people have been getting? I have easily overclocked mine to both 96 and 110, but when you do so it causes the whole thing to darken noticeably. I set it back down to 60 and left it there because the darkening doesn't sit well with me. That said, it does work without difficulty.
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El Scotch posted:I have easily overclocked mine to both 96 and 110, but when you do so it causes the whole thing to darken noticeably. I set it back down to 60 and left it there because the darkening doesn't sit well with me. That said, it does work without difficulty. Rad. Which model did you get?
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Jack the Lad posted:Rad. Which model did you get? I'm running 2 qnix at 96hz. There are icc profiles to account for the darkening at 96hz. The input lag and response time is really nice, but doesn't compare to my 144hz tn
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BrettRobb posted:I'm running 2 qnix at 96hz. There are icc profiles to account for the darkening at 96hz. The input lag and response time is really nice, but doesn't compare to my 144hz tn Hm - the (144hz) Asus VG278HE was my other choice. Would you say it's better for gaming overall?
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Yes. Playing cs or quake live with lightboost is amazing. Any shooter would benefit too I guess. The only reason I run 96hz on my workstation is because I'm so spoiled by the Asus, otherwise I probably wouldn't bother
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I'd have to agree the Asus is better for straight up gaming. After going to 1440 I don't know if I could go back to 1080, especially at 27", but that's all personal preference. The Asus is very, very good at what it's designed to do; it just doesn't do a lot beyond that. I bought my Qnix because it was $300 for a 1440p. The fact it can overclock is just a bonus.
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Anti-Hero posted:How did I misread that? You must be a lot more sensitive to input lag than I am, because I never saw enough to even make me notice on the 3008-WFP. The 3008 had other issues, but being notably laggy was not one of them. Not compared to a monitor like the older 2408. Response time and input lag as issues both seem like things of the past for *any* modern monitor, really. The only place you're really going to find them these days is in TVs or the real pro-level screens that are only focused on absolute accuracy.
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piratepilates posted:And all games on consoles are just rendered at 720p and upscaled, there's like one or two that aren't but pretend they don't exist. A good chunk of them are rendered at far below 720p and upscaled actually. The CoD series are rendered at 1024x600 for example. Some modern games change the resolution dynamically depending upon GPU load as well.
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So green sum has this qnix, matte screen and perfect pixel for $320. Is this the best deal on a 27" 1440p monitor at the moment? Or is there some drawback that I'm missing?
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Ruin Completely posted:So green sum has this qnix, matte screen and perfect pixel for $320. Is this the best deal on a 27" 1440p monitor at the moment? Or is there some drawback that I'm missing? For an extra hundred you can get a dell u2713hm from the outlet.
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veedubfreak posted:For an extra hundred you can get a dell u2713hm from the outlet. I am already springing pretty hardcore in relation to my paycheck for this thing, so "an extra hundred" is no small statement.
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Ars posted today that Dell is having a 25% off sale on a bunch of monitors today only. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/monday-dealmasters-dell-monitor-blowout-craziness/
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Cables shouldn't be different. All that matters is support on the devices being connected.
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thiazi posted:Ars posted today that Dell is having a 25% off sale on a bunch of monitors today only. Nooooo goddammnit I missed it! 
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dog nougat posted:Nooooo goddammnit I missed it! It's actually a two-day sale; yesterday was 25% off, and today is 20% off.
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Tab8715 posted:Is there such a thing as a 1.2 Displayport Cable? There isn't. Unlike with HDMI, almost all DisplayPort cables should work fine: http://www.displayport.org/faq/ posted:Q: Where can I buy a DP 1.2 cable? Most of the cables are certified to DP 1.1a. Anaxite fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Oct 15, 2013 |
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Casyl posted:It's actually a two-day sale; yesterday was 25% off, and today is 20% off. The extra 25% was a coupon. The sale's a separate thing.
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Casyl posted:It's actually a two-day sale; yesterday was 25% off, and today is 20% off. oh... Well. $575 for a U2713HM is a pretty good deal, not as great as $540 but whatever.
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fookolt posted:No worries! You may find that just adjusting the screen space to a smaller size might be enough and then you don't have to buy another thingy! Tried the 1200p windowed trick and it about halved my BF4 beta performance... Gwaihir posted:You must be a lot more sensitive to input lag than I am, because I never saw enough to even make me notice on the 3008-WFP. The 3008 had other issues, but being notably laggy was not one of them. Not compared to a monitor like the older 2408. Those "other issues" you mentioned are really starting to drive me nuts. The IPS glow is really prominent on this display, along with some considerable black light bleed. I've also noticed that reading text is less sharp then on my old Dell 2209WA displays I have in the office. I'm going to pull the trigger on a 23" Eizo FS2333 as soon as I find them in stock somewhere, and give a trip report.
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Ah, mine did neither of those things. I didn't like the "crystaline" AG coating and the amount of heat it cranked out (That thing got HOT). I never had the slightest issue with sharpness or black levels. If anything, the 3014 I got has slightly more IPS glow than the 3008 did.
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The AG coating could be leading to the sharpness issues. I think I've got myself worked up in circles over real and perceived faults of the display that it will take a side-by-side comparison with another display to get any sort of closure. Too bad the only electronics retailer where I live is loving Best Buy. fake edit: I hear you on the heat. Mine is a great little space heater in the cold winter months!
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